----- Original Message ----- From: "tony-moore" <tony-moore@bigpond.com> To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [ANS] Sending Money Overseas > Dear Robert, > > You may like to look at these pages to help getting English certificates using Australian Money or even using Australian personal cheques. > > http://www.certificates.fsnet.co.uk/certificates.htm > http://www.certificates.fsnet.co.uk/c5d.htm > > Antony Lambert haunts the Lancashire and Manchester Rootsweb mailing lists, and he is very helpful. The certificates he hunts for, are not just restricted to Lancashire. > > I certainly have not heard any adverse reports, only favourable ones on his behalf. > > I have corresponded with him once and he does this as a sideline to his everyday work as a clerk. Actually I think he's works as a bank clerk! > > You can use the universal currency converter at the bottom of the page to see what today's conversion rate is. > > Looking at today's rate suggests that the cost is about the same as a NSW Certificate. If you don't have access to a credit card, this way might be a suitable alternative. > > This is just a suggestion, and it's offered on a take-it-or-leave-it basis. > > Cheers, > > Tony moore > (Castle Hill, NSW) > > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ > > ---- "KEMSLEY wrote: > > I realise this question has perhaps; been asked many times previously? > > > > I've a lady in England; who has been good enough to obtain a Birth > > Certificate for me. > > > > I sent her $20AUS; believing that would cover the cost; which it did > > not, as the certificate itself was £7 Certificate + £1.74 Postage = £8.74 > > Total. > > > > The lady in question; has had trouble in cashing the $20AUS and I wonder > > if there is a better way of doing and what experiences fellow listers have > > had in such a situation? > > > > I've tried "American Express"; finding that the cost of cashing in; far > > exceeded the cost of the Cheque. > > > > According to the Bank here; $30 to send electronically, $15 via Internet > > Banking and $25 Bank Cheque and these are just the fees, without the actual > > amount due. > > > > I've yet to try the Post Office. > > > > Kindest regards; > > Robert KEMSLEY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please consider you emails subject line . Is it meaningful ? > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Please consider you emails subject line . Is it meaningful ? > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Dear Robert, You may like to look at these pages to help getting English certificates using Australian Money or even using Australian personal cheques. http://www.certificates.fsnet.co.uk/certificates.htm http://www.certificates.fsnet.co.uk/c5d.htm Antony Lambert haunts the Lancashire and Manchester Rootsweb mailing lists, and he is very helpful. The certificates he hunts for, are not just restricted to Lancashire. I certainly have not heard any adverse reports, only favourable ones on his behalf. I have corresponded with him once and he does this as a sideline to his everyday work as a clerk. Actually I think he's works as a bank clerk! You can use the universal currency converter at the bottom of the page to see what today's conversion rate is. Looking at today's rate suggests that the cost is about the same as a NSW Certificate. If you don't have access to a credit card, this way might be a suitable alternative. This is just a suggestion, and it's offered on a take-it-or-leave-it basis. Cheers, Tony moore (Castle Hill, NSW) @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ---- "KEMSLEY wrote: > I realise this question has perhaps; been asked many times previously? > > I've a lady in England; who has been good enough to obtain a Birth > Certificate for me. > > I sent her $20AUS; believing that would cover the cost; which it did > not, as the certificate itself was £7 Certificate + £1.74 Postage = £8.74 > Total. > > The lady in question; has had trouble in cashing the $20AUS and I wonder > if there is a better way of doing and what experiences fellow listers have > had in such a situation? > > I've tried "American Express"; finding that the cost of cashing in; far > exceeded the cost of the Cheque. > > According to the Bank here; $30 to send electronically, $15 via Internet > Banking and $25 Bank Cheque and these are just the fees, without the actual > amount due. > > I've yet to try the Post Office. > > Kindest regards; > Robert KEMSLEY > > > > > > > > > Please consider you emails subject line . Is it meaningful ? > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

----- Original Message ----- From: "KEMSLEY, Robert N. G." <rkemsley@idl.net.au> To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 2:40 PM Subject: [ANS] Sending Money Overseas > I realise this question has perhaps; been asked many > times previously? Hi Robert No, not recently but certainly has been in the past > I've a lady in England; who has been good enough to > obtain a Birth > Certificate for me. > > I sent her $20AUS; believing that would cover the > cost; which it did > not, as the certificate itself was £7 Certificate + > £1.74 Postage = £8.74 > Total. Why not get yourself a Visa/ or Master card debit card ........ I have one with the Bendigo Bank who dont charge a humungous acc keeping fee http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/ Is the GRO direct ordering system on line. A few weeks ago I ordered a cert at 4.15 pm Friday and it arrived in my mail box the following Tuesday morning ........ Couldnt get much better than that unless you could down load copy http://www.xe.com/ucc/ Is a useful currency converter > > The lady in question; has had trouble in cashing the > $20AUS I havent had any trouble changing either US$s or UK pound notes in Australian banks Bye MargM Sydney List Admin

Yes, Paypal is by far the cheapest way to do it. The banks, post office, western union etc are incredibly expensive. It sounds complicated but is really quite easy on Paypal. Louise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cathy Haynes" <cathy_haynes@iinet.net.au> To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [ANS] Sending Money Overseas > If you have a credit card, and she has an email address, she can set up > a Paypal account. There are fees involved, but minimal compared to bank > charges. > > www.paypal.com > > Regards > > Cathy > > On Mon, 2007-04-30 at 14:40 +1000, KEMSLEY, Robert N. G. wrote: >> I realise this question has perhaps; been asked many times previously? >> >> I've a lady in England; who has been good enough to obtain a Birth >> Certificate for me. >> >> I sent her $20AUS; believing that would cover the cost; which it did >> not, as the certificate itself was £7 Certificate + £1.74 Postage = £8.74 >> Total. >> >> The lady in question; has had trouble in cashing the $20AUS and I >> wonder >> if there is a better way of doing and what experiences fellow listers >> have >> had in such a situation? >> >> I've tried "American Express"; finding that the cost of cashing in; >> far >> exceeded the cost of the Cheque. >> >> According to the Bank here; $30 to send electronically, $15 via >> Internet >> Banking and $25 Bank Cheque and these are just the fees, without the >> actual >> amount due. >> >> I've yet to try the Post Office. >> >> Kindest regards; >> Robert KEMSLEY >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Please consider you emails subject line . Is it meaningful ? >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Please consider you emails subject line . Is it meaningful ? > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If you have a credit card, and she has an email address, she can set up a Paypal account. There are fees involved, but minimal compared to bank charges. www.paypal.com Regards Cathy On Mon, 2007-04-30 at 14:40 +1000, KEMSLEY, Robert N. G. wrote: > I realise this question has perhaps; been asked many times previously? > > I've a lady in England; who has been good enough to obtain a Birth > Certificate for me. > > I sent her $20AUS; believing that would cover the cost; which it did > not, as the certificate itself was £7 Certificate + £1.74 Postage = £8.74 > Total. > > The lady in question; has had trouble in cashing the $20AUS and I wonder > if there is a better way of doing and what experiences fellow listers have > had in such a situation? > > I've tried "American Express"; finding that the cost of cashing in; far > exceeded the cost of the Cheque. > > According to the Bank here; $30 to send electronically, $15 via Internet > Banking and $25 Bank Cheque and these are just the fees, without the actual > amount due. > > I've yet to try the Post Office. > > Kindest regards; > Robert KEMSLEY > > > > > > > > > Please consider you emails subject line . Is it meaningful ? > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I realise this question has perhaps; been asked many times previously? I've a lady in England; who has been good enough to obtain a Birth Certificate for me. I sent her $20AUS; believing that would cover the cost; which it did not, as the certificate itself was £7 Certificate + £1.74 Postage = £8.74 Total. The lady in question; has had trouble in cashing the $20AUS and I wonder if there is a better way of doing and what experiences fellow listers have had in such a situation? I've tried "American Express"; finding that the cost of cashing in; far exceeded the cost of the Cheque. According to the Bank here; $30 to send electronically, $15 via Internet Banking and $25 Bank Cheque and these are just the fees, without the actual amount due. I've yet to try the Post Office. Kindest regards; Robert KEMSLEY

At 10:25 AM 29/04/2007, you wrote: Janet The government administration of our two countries are and were different. Births, deaths & marriages have been recorded by state authorities since the 1850s. Yours were recorded by hundreds of local counties, some starting after 1900. Naturalization here has been similarly centrally recorded, while yours were under county authorities. We lack censuses, but have many records in central archives which are more difficult to search in America. It's useful to understand something about administrative practices in order to know what records might be available. Gary =================== >Katrina, > >What a challenge you Australian researchers must have! Thank you >for the heads up. Also, thank yuu for the other info. I've already >checked some out and they look to be helpful. > >Best Wishes, Janet _________________________________ Gary Luke ~ gary@feraltek.com.au Sydney, Australia

Dear Janet, It would be wonderful to have census to look at, but they have been destroyed. You may find them on the Electoral Roll, but in those days they were by Divisions, and unless you knew where they lived it would be a lengthy process. Try Sands Directory of Sydney Residents on microfiche 1859-1932 almost annually. The alphabetical index will give an address, then the street by street municipal section where the property was, as they did not have street numbers in the early days. Sincerely,Bill > Hi Listers, > > Could someone please do a lookup in the 1871 census for me for the > following: the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Jean, Try www.records.nsw.gov.au which is the State Records on line. Try Sands Directory of Sydney Residents on microfiche nearly annually 1859-1932 for residences. Sincerely,Bill > Please can someone lookup or tell me if their are any > shipping online lists in the period 1872/75 for n the subject and the body of the message

Dear Jean, Here are two entries in Greville's 1872 Post Office directory: EXTON James farmer Blake Brook Lismore EXTON Thomas storekeeper --- Lismore The Sands Post Office directory for Sydney is available only on microfiche in many large libraries probably in Brisbane too Shipping..................... You will find some EXTONs mentioned here: http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/ You can search all things NEW ZEALAND here: http://www.google.co.nz/ Here are some other EXTON references: One entry for Newtown here: http://www.sydneyarchives.info/Sands_Directory/sands1904.html There are some EXTONs on the 1903 electoral roll (CD) in the following NSW places .............. Lismore Ballina Forest Lodge Canterbury Newtown (see the reference above) Rozelle Erskineville, Edgecliffe plus Oatlands and Oak Farm in Tasmania Cheers, Tony Moore (Castle Hill, NSW) @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ On 29 Apr 2007 at 6:29, Jean Taylor wrote: Date sent: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 06:29:56 +1000 (EST) From: Jean Taylor <rojeanau@yahoo.com.au> To: AUS-NSW-SYDNEY@rootsweb.com Subject: [ANS] shipping lists Send reply to: aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com > Please can someone lookup or tell me if their are any > shipping online lists in the period 1872/75 for > Sydney, also can someone please lookup the following > on the electorial rolls if any in the same time etc. > if no electorial rolls is there anything else that > would have arecord of people living in the region. etc > > The Exton family, George, Rosina, children as follows, > George, Rosina, Henry, Emmeline arrived in NZ from > Australia, sometime between 1872/75, last known area > that they lived in is Sydney, Where there any ships > leaving the port of Sydney for NZ in tht time frame. > > Looking for passenger Lists and the name of the boat > that they arrived in NZ in. > > When they arrived in NZ they were in Auckland or > Hobsonville, perhaps they entered at someother port > also? > > > My brick wall. > > Thank you > > Jean > > Brisbane

Hi Janet, Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but none of the census for Australia were kept. A source of great frustration to we Aussie researchers! There is only an 1828 and an 1841 census which are available. However, you may find the father listed in the 1872 Greville's Directory here: http://addison.homedns.org/transcriptions/grevilles/grevilles.html I had a look and there are these 2 Roberts listed WATERS R W Sen Sergeant Police --- Bathurst WATERS Robert warder Isabella St. Parramatta NSW BDMs are online and free so you may find them here: http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/Index/IndexingOrder.cgi/search?event=births Also, State records may have something relevant, this site includes some shipping lists: http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/archives/keyname_search_2187.asp Some listers have access to other sources so if you send another message with more details and what info you're looking for, someone may be able to help. Also, they may have gone to another state. Happy hunting! Katrina >Hi Listers, > >Could someone please do a lookup in the 1871 census for me for the following: > >Robert Short WATERS, probably age 50 an engineer, living in Sydney > >His wife: Elizabeth Mary Grey Hobbs Waters, about age 39 > >Maybe a son: Horace Albert Short, born about 1871. > >Would it be possible to check the 1881 census as well? Of course, they'd be ten years older. > >Thank you, > >Janet Hobbs Johnson

Please can someone lookup or tell me if their are any shipping online lists in the period 1872/75 for Sydney, also can someone please lookup the following on the electorial rolls if any in the same time etc. if no electorial rolls is there anything else that would have arecord of people living in the region. etc The Exton family, George, Rosina, children as follows, George, Rosina, Henry, Emmeline arrived in NZ from Australia, sometime between 1872/75, last known area that they lived in is Sydney, Where there any ships leaving the port of Sydney for NZ in tht time frame. Looking for passenger Lists and the name of the boat that they arrived in NZ in. When they arrived in NZ they were in Auckland or Hobsonville, perhaps they entered at someother port also? My brick wall. Thank you Jean Brisbane Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com

Katrina, What a challenge you Australian researchers must have! Thank you for the heads up. Also, thank yuu for the other info. I've already checked some out and they look to be helpful. Best Wishes, Janet -----Original Message----- >From: Katrina <jencap@herplace.net> >Sent: Apr 28, 2007 4:18 PM >To: aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [ANS] 1871 and 1881 CENSUS > > >Hi Janet, > >Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but none of the census for Australia >were kept. A source of great frustration to we Aussie researchers! There is >only an 1828 and an 1841 census which are available. > >However, you may find the father listed in the 1872 Greville's Directory >here: > >http://addison.homedns.org/transcriptions/grevilles/grevilles.html > >I had a look and there are these 2 Roberts listed > >WATERS R W Sen Sergeant Police --- Bathurst >WATERS Robert warder Isabella St. Parramatta > >NSW BDMs are online and free so you may find them here: > >http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/Index/IndexingOrder.cgi/search?event=births > >Also, State records may have something relevant, this site includes some >shipping lists: > >http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/archives/keyname_search_2187.asp > >Some listers have access to other sources so if you send another message >with more details and what info you're looking for, someone may be able to >help. Also, they may have gone to another state. > >Happy hunting! >Katrina > >>Hi Listers, >> >>Could someone please do a lookup in the 1871 census for me for the following: >> >>Robert Short WATERS, probably age 50 an engineer, living in Sydney >> >>His wife: Elizabeth Mary Grey Hobbs Waters, about age 39 >> >>Maybe a son: Horace Albert Short, born about 1871. >> >>Would it be possible to check the 1881 census as well? Of course, they'd be ten years older. >> >>Thank you, >> >>Janet Hobbs Johnson > > > Please consider you emails subject line . Is it meaningful ? >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Listers, Could someone please do a lookup in the 1871 census for me for the following: Robert Short WATERS, probably age 50 an engineer, living in Sydney His wife: Elizabeth Mary Grey Hobbs Waters, about age 39 Maybe a son: Horace Albert Short, born about 1871. Would it be possible to check the 1881 census as well? Of course, they'd be ten years older. Thank you, Janet Hobbs Johnson

http://www.anzacsite.gov.au/2visiting/ariburnumap.html MargaretB Lake Macquarie NSW Australia

Hello Warren, Many thanks for your reply. I don't have any number keys on the right-hand side, but no doubt they are on the keyboard somewhere. I have a Toshiba Satellite (about 2/3 years old). I'll check the keyboard and follow your directions. Regards Alma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren Backhouse" <backie@iinet.com.au> To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [ANS] POUND SIGN Alma, Just to butt in, if you are using a laptop computer, look for the number keys that are arranged in the right hand side of the key pad. On my laptop these keys are as follows: Key 7 is on the 7 key Key 8 is on the 8 key Key 9 is on the 9 key Key 4 is on the U key, and so on. To access these pale blue numbers you must use the "Fn" key which is also pale blue. The Pound (£) can only be formed with the use of the numerical keys, ie. the number keys on the right hand side of a normal keyboard OR the number keys which are hidden in the normal keys on a laptop. As Peter said the £ can be created by pressing and holding the "ALT" key and "Fn" and the number keys that represent the symbol required. "ALT 156" OR "ALT 0163" to obtain the £ symbol. An alternative way to insert a symbol is to use the "Insert" menu, then select "Characters and Symbols ..." and select the £ from under the Character drop down menu. This works in MS Word and Thunderbird Mail, I assume that it will work in other mail systems as well. My email is below if you have problems. Warren ======================================= Warren Backhouse Canberra Australia Phone: +61 (0)2 6258 6633 EmaiL: backie at iinet dot com dot au =======================================

Thanks MargM, I'll check them out........Alma ----- Original Message ----- From: "MargM" <genknut@optusnet.com.au> To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [ANS] POUND SIGN ----- Original Message ----- From: "FT. & AM." <kaw56@bigpond.net.au> To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [ANS] POUND SIGN > Hello Peter, > > I use a laptop computer, and I'm afraid that way of > using the pound sign > doesn't work. > Hi Alma Have a look at http://www.asciitable.com/ Could be something here that may help . Also were quite a few comments about how to type the £ sybol posted on GENANZ and AUS-CONVICTS in the last couple of days You should check the archives of both lists Bye MargM Sydney List Admin

Alma, Just to butt in, if you are using a laptop computer, look for the number keys that are arranged in the right hand side of the key pad. On my laptop these keys are as follows: Key 7 is on the 7 key Key 8 is on the 8 key Key 9 is on the 9 key Key 4 is on the U key, and so on. To access these pale blue numbers you must use the "Fn" key which is also pale blue. The Pound (£) can only be formed with the use of the numerical keys, ie. the number keys on the right hand side of a normal keyboard OR the number keys which are hidden in the normal keys on a laptop. As Peter said the £ can be created by pressing and holding the "ALT" key and "Fn" and the number keys that represent the symbol required. "ALT 156" OR "ALT 0163" to obtain the £ symbol. An alternative way to insert a symbol is to use the "Insert" menu, then select "Characters and Symbols ..." and select the £ from under the Character drop down menu. This works in MS Word and Thunderbird Mail, I assume that it will work in other mail systems as well. My email is below if you have problems. Warren ======================================= Warren Backhouse Canberra Australia Phone: +61 (0)2 6258 6633 EmaiL: backie at iinet dot com dot au ======================================= FT. & AM. wrote: > Hello Peter, > > I use a laptop computer, and I'm afraid that way of using the pound sign > doesn't work. > > Regards > Alma > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Strauss" <pstrauss@aapt.net.au> > To: "List PJ Convicts" <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com>; "List AUS > Sydney" <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com>; "List AUS Convicts" > <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 4:36 PM > Subject: [ANS] POUND SIGN > > > Hi Listers, > > I have noticed that many listers use "?" as a sign for "£". > > Although most Australian key boards do not have the "£" symbol it can be > inserted by hitting "Alt156" > > Cheers > > Peter Strauss > Melbournre > > > Please consider you emails subject line . Is it meaningful ? > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "FT. & AM." <kaw56@bigpond.net.au> To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [ANS] POUND SIGN > Hello Peter, > > I use a laptop computer, and I'm afraid that way of > using the pound sign > doesn't work. > Hi Alma Have a look at http://www.asciitable.com/ Could be something here that may help . Also were quite a few comments about how to type the £ sybol posted on GENANZ and AUS-CONVICTS in the last couple of days You should check the archives of both lists Bye MargM Sydney List Admin

Hello Peter, I use a laptop computer, and I'm afraid that way of using the pound sign doesn't work. Regards Alma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Strauss" <pstrauss@aapt.net.au> To: "List PJ Convicts" <aus-pt-jackson-convicts@rootsweb.com>; "List AUS Sydney" <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com>; "List AUS Convicts" <aus-convicts@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 4:36 PM Subject: [ANS] POUND SIGN Hi Listers, I have noticed that many listers use "?" as a sign for "£". Although most Australian key boards do not have the "£" symbol it can be inserted by hitting "Alt156" Cheers Peter Strauss Melbournre