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Hi All, Swami was a fabric, very soft and comfortable, which came in pink, white and occasionally in black. As well as underwear, I think you could get nightdresses and pyjames, too. It was favoured by grandmas for some reason. I had some as a child and hated it as the pants had no elastic in the legs and the self trim bands stretched over time. Yuk! Regards, Royalene, Wyong, N.S.W.

Hi all, Thanks to Marie, Lyn, Lorraine and Noel for sorting this out for me. Much appreciated. Louise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyn Mealey" <lmealey@bigpond.com> To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 6:51 AM Subject: Re: [ANS] Sorry gentlemen - ladies underwear topic > Hi Louise > > Yes, swami was definitely the fabric, because "slips" (full length > petticoats) were made in it too. As I remember it was often a salmon pink > colour but I think it may have come in white too (not certain about that). > In the late 50's, I was often asked by my father to go to buy my mother > (now > 90) swami underwear for Christmas - usually almost on Christmas Eve, when > stocks were low!!! > > Lyn > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Louise Reynolds" <louise@planetlighting.com> > To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 10:25 PM > Subject: [ANS] Sorry gentlemen - ladies underwear topic > > >> Hello all, >> >> Could anyone please tell me about a garment called Swammi, or Swami, >> knickers? >> >> My grandmother, born 1903 would only wear these pink (silk?) knickers, >> and >> my mother had a great deal of trouble finding them as the years went by >> (ie, into the 70's and 80's). >> >> All I can recall is that they were kind of a shiny pink fabric, and loose >> legged, a bit like french knickers. >> >> I would appreciate any feedback. >> >> Louise >> >> >> Please consider you emails subject line . Is it meaningful ? >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > Please consider you emails subject line . Is it meaningful ? > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Louise Yes, swami was definitely the fabric, because "slips" (full length petticoats) were made in it too. As I remember it was often a salmon pink colour but I think it may have come in white too (not certain about that). In the late 50's, I was often asked by my father to go to buy my mother (now 90) swami underwear for Christmas - usually almost on Christmas Eve, when stocks were low!!! Lyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Louise Reynolds" <louise@planetlighting.com> To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 10:25 PM Subject: [ANS] Sorry gentlemen - ladies underwear topic > Hello all, > > Could anyone please tell me about a garment called Swammi, or Swami, > knickers? > > My grandmother, born 1903 would only wear these pink (silk?) knickers, and > my mother had a great deal of trouble finding them as the years went by > (ie, into the 70's and 80's). > > All I can recall is that they were kind of a shiny pink fabric, and loose > legged, a bit like french knickers. > > I would appreciate any feedback. > > Louise > > > Please consider you emails subject line . Is it meaningful ? > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks Marie. Louise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marie Donaldson" <mariedonaldson@optusnet.com.au> To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 11:21 PM Subject: Re: [ANS] Sorry gentlemen - ladies underwear topic >I may be wrong but I think swami was the name of the type of material. I'll > ask my 87 year old Mum. > Marie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Louise Reynolds" <louise@planetlighting.com> > To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 10:25 PM > Subject: [ANS] Sorry gentlemen - ladies underwear topic > > >> Hello all, >> >> Could anyone please tell me about a garment called Swammi, or Swami, >> knickers? >> >> My grandmother, born 1903 would only wear these pink (silk?) knickers, >> and >> my mother had a great deal of trouble finding them as the years went by >> (ie, into the 70's and 80's). >> >> All I can recall is that they were kind of a shiny pink fabric, and loose >> legged, a bit like french knickers. >> >> I would appreciate any feedback. >> >> Louise >> >> >> Please consider you emails subject line . Is it meaningful ? >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.5/793 - Release Date: 7/05/2007 >> 2:55 PM >> >> > > Please consider you emails subject line . Is it meaningful ? > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I may be wrong but I think swami was the name of the type of material. I'll ask my 87 year old Mum. Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Louise Reynolds" <louise@planetlighting.com> To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 10:25 PM Subject: [ANS] Sorry gentlemen - ladies underwear topic > Hello all, > > Could anyone please tell me about a garment called Swammi, or Swami, > knickers? > > My grandmother, born 1903 would only wear these pink (silk?) knickers, and > my mother had a great deal of trouble finding them as the years went by > (ie, into the 70's and 80's). > > All I can recall is that they were kind of a shiny pink fabric, and loose > legged, a bit like french knickers. > > I would appreciate any feedback. > > Louise > > > Please consider you emails subject line . Is it meaningful ? > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.5/793 - Release Date: 7/05/2007 > 2:55 PM > >

Why not contact the Powerhouse Museum in Sydney http://www.powerhousemuseum.com/home.php They have a wonderful collection of knickers (but couldn't find the use of the Swami word) and someone in their textile/design section may be able to help. I remember my grandmother having them too....know the word but not the spelling. Cheers Lorraine

Thanks Noel, That sounds exactly like them. Louise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Noel Wilkinson" <jacwil@westnet.com.au> To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 10:54 PM Subject: Re: [ANS] Sorry gentlemen - ladies underwear topic Hi Louise As I remember , swami was a type of lightly ribbed shiny rayon, generally in a light salmon pink. I think the type of nickers you are referring to were called 'scanties' and had short loose legs, generally with lace appliqué etc. My mother used to wear these, but hers were of crepe de chine - quite the thing. Hope this helps. Cheers Noel (a female) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Louise Reynolds" <louise@planetlighting.com> To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 10:25 PM Subject: [ANS] Sorry gentlemen - ladies underwear topic > Hello all, > > Could anyone please tell me about a garment called Swammi, or Swami, > knickers? > > My grandmother, born 1903 would only wear these pink (silk?) knickers, and > my mother had a great deal of trouble finding them as the years went by > (ie, into the 70's and 80's). > > All I can recall is that they were kind of a shiny pink fabric, and loose > legged, a bit like french knickers. > > I would appreciate any feedback. > > Louise > > > Please consider you emails subject line . Is it meaningful ? > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Please consider you emails subject line . Is it meaningful ? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Louise As I remember , swami was a type of lightly ribbed shiny rayon, generally in a light salmon pink. I think the type of nickers you are referring to were called 'scanties' and had short loose legs, generally with lace appliqué etc. My mother used to wear these, but hers were of crepe de chine - quite the thing. Hope this helps. Cheers Noel (a female) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Louise Reynolds" <louise@planetlighting.com> To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 10:25 PM Subject: [ANS] Sorry gentlemen - ladies underwear topic > Hello all, > > Could anyone please tell me about a garment called Swammi, or Swami, > knickers? > > My grandmother, born 1903 would only wear these pink (silk?) knickers, and > my mother had a great deal of trouble finding them as the years went by > (ie, into the 70's and 80's). > > All I can recall is that they were kind of a shiny pink fabric, and loose > legged, a bit like french knickers. > > I would appreciate any feedback. > > Louise > > > Please consider you emails subject line . Is it meaningful ? > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello all, Could anyone please tell me about a garment called Swammi, or Swami, knickers? My grandmother, born 1903 would only wear these pink (silk?) knickers, and my mother had a great deal of trouble finding them as the years went by (ie, into the 70's and 80's). All I can recall is that they were kind of a shiny pink fabric, and loose legged, a bit like french knickers. I would appreciate any feedback. Louise

Thank you Bill, I did find a same name person on www.findmypast.co.uk website immigration lists. These are also invaluable. Pam Dear Pam, Try the name index on www.records.nsw.gov.au Also a lot of passenger arrivals are listed on the Australasian Genealogical Computer Index, a CD from the Society of Australian Genealogists. Sincerely,Bill > Can anyone tell me where I can access passenger lists for ships arriving > in Sydney prior to 1894.

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Dear Pam, Try the name index on www.records.nsw.gov.au Also a lot of passenger arrivals are listed on the Australasian Genealogical Computer Index, a CD from the Society of Australian Genealogists. Sincerely,Bill > Can anyone tell me where I can access passenger lists for ships arriving > in Sydney prior to 1894. >

Gretings List It'a a while since I posted my interest in this cemetery, which disappeared long ago and for which the burial register has been lost I am trying to re-create the burial register and would love to hear from anyone who has information about a burial at this place. (or anyone who would like some information about this cemetery The Balmain Catholic cemetery should not be confused with the Balmain General cemetery which was located on Norton St. in today's Leichhardt and is now Pioneers Park. The catholic cemetery was located in Elswick St. Leichhardt and now houses St. Columba's church, presbytery, school and convent Many Thanks Patrick Callaghan

Dear Pam, http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/search.htm There is a William WILLMOT mentioned several times on coastal voyages. Cheers, Tony Moore (Castle Hill, NSW) @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ On 6 May 2007 at 10:36, Pam Dale wrote: From: "Pam Dale" <pamjdale@bigpond.net.au> To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> Date sent: Sun, 6 May 2007 10:36:01 +1000 Subject: [ANS] PASENGER LISTS INTO SYDNEY PRE 1894 Send reply to: aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com > Can anyone tell me where I can access passenger lists for ships arriving in Sydney prior to 1894. > > I am looking for William WILLMOT born 1868 in Cheshire who married in Sydney 1894. He was found in the 1881 census in UK. I assume he would have been at least 18 when he came to Australia alone. So I am looking for a period between 1886 and 1894 when he married in Sydney. Is there any information available online? > > Thanks in anticipation. > > Pam in Brisbane Australia > > Researching > > COOPER, BAKER, BECKWITH, GOOD, PETCHEY, BELL, WHITLOCK (ESSEX) > BARRELL, BARKER (SUFFOLK) > HULLEY, WRIGHT, HULLY, PIKE (MDX & CHESHIRE) > WILLMOT, KINNEAR, FELMINGHAM, GOODALL (QLD, UK, SCOTLAND) > ANDERSON, ROBERTSON, BRUCE (SCOTLAND) > SIGSTON, THOMSON, SIMS (UK & BARBADOS) > Please consider you emails subject line . Is it meaningful ? > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can anyone tell me where I can access passenger lists for ships arriving in Sydney prior to 1894. I am looking for William WILLMOT born 1868 in Cheshire who married in Sydney 1894. He was found in the 1881 census in UK. I assume he would have been at least 18 when he came to Australia alone. So I am looking for a period between 1886 and 1894 when he married in Sydney. Is there any information available online? Thanks in anticipation. Pam in Brisbane Australia Researching COOPER, BAKER, BECKWITH, GOOD, PETCHEY, BELL, WHITLOCK (ESSEX) BARRELL, BARKER (SUFFOLK) HULLEY, WRIGHT, HULLY, PIKE (MDX & CHESHIRE) WILLMOT, KINNEAR, FELMINGHAM, GOODALL (QLD, UK, SCOTLAND) ANDERSON, ROBERTSON, BRUCE (SCOTLAND) SIGSTON, THOMSON, SIMS (UK & BARBADOS)

I am looking for descendents or anyone researching the following people- WILLMOT William Henry born 1868 Tranmere Cheshire England son of Charles Carroll WILLMOT and Ann Elizabeth ROUTLEDGE who were married in 1864 in Cheshire. William's father was a Steward on a ship and William is believed to have jumped ship in Sydney. married in 1894 WEST Bessie Drew dau of Luke & Mary Ann WEST children WILLMOT Edith M 1895 Sydney Australia married in 1947 WHALL Geoffrey Michael WILLMOT Charles William 1898 Sydney Australia married in 1925 HOY Elsie D M WILLMOT William L born 1900 died 1901 Thanks in anticipation Pam in Brisbane Australia Researching COOPER, BAKER, BECKWITH, GOOD, PETCHEY, BELL, WHITLOCK (ESSEX) BARRELL, BARKER (SUFFOLK) HULLEY, WRIGHT, HULLY, PIKE (MDX & CHESHIRE) WILLMOT, KINNEAR, FELMINGHAM, GOODALL (QLD, UK, SCOTLAND) WILLMOT (SYDNEY) ANDERSON, ROBERTSON, BRUCE (SCOTLAND) SIGSTON, THOMSON, SIMS (UK & BARBADOS)

Hi Pam in Brisbane; Sincere thanks for your response to my posting. Sorry to have not gotten back to you sooner; to much going on within family, Boy's Home Re-Union and now our thoughts are turning towards our next 4 WD Coach Tour. Your suggestion sounds rather simple and easy, but we've not Credit Cards, but the problems now been solved; as the lady's advised that she cashed the Australian Currency and is prepared to accept further. So; All's well that ends well? Sincere thanks; Robert KEMSLEY Lake Macquarie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pam Dale" <pamjdale@bigpond.net.au> To: <aus-nsw-sydney@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [ANS] English Certificates Hi Robert I order my UK certificates direct from the GRO website. They cost 7 English pounds which works out about $17-$18 depending on the exchange rate on the day. I pay by a small credit card that I keep for such transactions. Virgin will give you one with no yearly charges. Once you are registered with GRO it is very easy. http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp Pam in Brisbane You wrote - I realise this question has perhaps; been asked many times previously? I've a lady in England; who has been good enough to obtain a Birth Certificate for me. I sent her $20AUS; believing that would cover the cost; which it did not, as the certificate itself was ?7 Certificate + ?1.74 Postage = ?8.74 Total. This email was cleaned by emailStripper, available for free from http://www.papercut.biz/emailStripper.htm

I am hoping that anyone researching these two families will contact me. Thomas BURRELL stayed in Lancashire but Thomas DAWSON and Rebecca HARGREAVES married in Colne Lancashire c. 1923 and arrived in Sydney the same year. They lived in Blacktown and had children, Elizabeth, Thomas, Neville, John and Eljah who may later have been known as Roger. I know of one person researching these families but I do not know if she is listed with this Sydney list. If Philomena reads this would she please contact me soon, thank you so much. Beth M.

Hi Robert I order my UK certificates direct from the GRO website. They cost 7 English pounds which works out about $17-$18 depending on the exchange rate on the day. I pay by a small credit card that I keep for such transactions. Virgin will give you one with no yearly charges. Once you are registered with GRO it is very easy. http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp Pam in Brisbane You wrote - I realise this question has perhaps; been asked many times previously? I've a lady in England; who has been good enough to obtain a Birth Certificate for me. I sent her $20AUS; believing that would cover the cost; which it did not, as the certificate itself was ?7 Certificate + ?1.74 Postage = ?8.74 Total.