Hello Bill Many thanks for the advice. The death we've located though is in ENG. Regards ~ Anne -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill Sent: Wednesday, 13 October 2010 9:21 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ANS] re W A Peterkin Dear Anne, Presuming the death you have found is in New South Wales he could have left an estate. If you only have a year, you will get an exact date by looking at the NSW Probate Index on microfiche. Then papers, called a Probate Packet can be found at State Records, Kingswood. If you can't get there yourself there are agents who will do it for you for a reasonable fee. Sincerely, Bill

Dear Tracey, Have a look on the NSW Probate Index and see if Florence left an estate. That one might even by on the name index on www.records.nsw.gov.au Papers are held at Kingswood State Records. Her Death Registration should give her years in colony. (Often not reliable) There are transcription agents which are cheaper. Sincerely, Bill > I am trying to find information in relation to birth of Florence Agnes > Savage, She married John Carroll in 1899 in Sydney. She died October > 1935 > Bourke St Redfern age 55yrs. On BDM NSW it states that her parents were > Samuel and Eliza. I have had no luck in tracing when Samuel/Eliza came to > Australia (if they did or only Florence came). Or their marriage or > deaths. > Hoping someone can help me. Thanks in advance. Tracey.

Dear Anne, Presuming the death you have found is in New South Wales he could have left an estate. If you only have a year, you will get an exact date by looking at the NSW Probate Index on microfiche. Then papers, called a Probate Packet can be found at State Records, Kingswood. If you can't get there yourself there are agents who will do it for you for a reasonable fee. Sincerely, Bill > > Hi Debbie > Yes, I have. The newspaper items are mostly advertisements or reviews of > concerts. I'm particularly looking for any references after c1909. > Thanks > to another helpful researcher I've found his death in 1945 but there > period > between 1909 and 1945 is still a bit of a mystery. > Debbie McKay >

I am trying to find information in relation to birth of Florence Agnes Savage, She married John Carroll in 1899 in Sydney. She died October 1935 Bourke St Redfern age 55yrs. On BDM NSW it states that her parents were Samuel and Eliza. I have had no luck in tracing when Samuel/Eliza came to Australia (if they did or only Florence came). Or their marriage or deaths. Hoping someone can help me. Thanks in advance. Tracey.

Hi Anne Here are two websites that I had archived for myself. I have not checked them for Peterkin myself. They are both Australian Theatre Archives http://www.pennygaff.com.au http://www.hat-archive.com/ Mary

----- Original Message ----- From: "Tracey Evans" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 11:23 PM Subject: [ANS] RENSHAW - WAVERLEY CEMETERY. >I have a further enquiry please (hope you can help). There is another two > ancestors (Edwin Benjamin Renshaw (5/8/1939) and his wife Florence Emily > Renshaw(19/10/1938)) Hi Tracey Only Florence Emilys grave has a marker " our mother" Angl sec 14 row 20 grave 7202, 66yo In same grave William Francis GILLAN killed Randwick 27 Aug 1920 aged 26 beloved son of Florence RENSHAW Also Joseph Francis RENSHAW 7 Dec 1913 music teacher, my brother ,60yo Also Caroline Alice RENSHAW 20 Nov 1881 , dau of Alfred & Alice aged 24 days Bye MargM Sydney List Admin

Thankyou to Mary and Bill, Well I have enjoyed searching in your suggestions and not a lot of luck yet although I did get two articles on the father from the Science and Society Picture Library. Thankyou again Joan >> > > > > After an article about a child that fell from a window of a flat in Sydney > between April 1955 and July 1961, he was paralyzed in the fall, his > parents > were Lillian known as Lee Watson and Hypnotist Douglas James Watson known > as > Digger Watson. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have a further enquiry please (hope you can help). There is another two ancestors (Edwin Benjamin Renshaw (5/8/1939) and his wife Florence Emily Renshaw(19/10/1938)) that are buried at Waverley Cemetery. Do you have any information about them please. Thanks.

Hi Debbie Yes, I have. The newspaper items are mostly advertisements or reviews of concerts. I'm particularly looking for any references after c1909. Thanks to another helpful researcher I've found his death in 1945 but there period between 1909 and 1945 is still a bit of a mystery. Many thanks ~ Anne -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Debbie McKay Sent: Monday, 11 October 2010 10:27 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [ANS] re W A Peterkin hi Anne, there is heaps on the nla trove website http://trove.nla.gov.au/ on re W A Peterkin. Have you looked there? Debbie McKay

hi Anne, there is heaps on the nla trove website http://trove.nla.gov.au/ on re W A Peterkin. Have you looked there? Debbie McKay

Greetings Amanda Saw your email and the many helpful replies, here are a few more ideas, which probably don't help, but sometimes small clues do put a crack in the brick wall Elizabeth McKenzie married Hugh Matheson in 1893 (2096/1893) the marriage was registered in Balmain West, could this be her?? Also five McKenzies were buried the the Balmain Catholic cemetery, they were: Mary Gertrude McKenzie buried 9/1/1883 Minnie Esther McKenzie buried 28/4/1883 Thomas McKenzie buried 10/10/1884 Isobel Florence McKenzie buried 22/2/1887 Mary Margaret McKenzie buried 19/8/1890 Some of these people had funeral notices in the Sydney Morning Herald and if they look interesting it might be worth while looking up the notices as they sometimes mention other relatives. Let me know if more info is required Good Hunting Patrick Callaghan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amanda Curran" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 3:30 PM Subject: Re: [ANS] Elizabeth Safety Kensey b 1855 Balmain > Dear List, > > > > I have searched and searched for a death or marriage for Elizabeth S > Kensey > and can't seem to find a thing. Has anyone have her on their tree? Have > tried Kensie, Kenzie, etc etc any ideas? > > > > Parents are James Kensey and Ann Petchey of Balmain. With fingers Xed. > > > > Best wishes Amanda > > Victoria > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I am looking for Charles Gillespie, an engineer born in Glasgow in 1872, who lived with his wife Janet and children Andrew, Hugh and Janet (daughter) in Cremorne in Sydney in 1930 and earlier. After 1930 Charles disappeared and although I can find his wife and children after that date I can't find Charles. He is not listed in the NSW BDM. There is a Charles Gillespie who died in Castlemaine, Vic in 1949 ( I don't have any other details of this death) but other than that he is a mystery. Any help you may be able to assist me with would be greatly appreciated. I am trying to help a friend in Ireland Thank you, John

More on the rugby link: William Arthur Peterkin born: 2 Jan 1858 Edinburgh test debut: 19 Mar 1881 Scotland vs. England, Edinburgh last test: 7 Mar 1885 Scotland vs. Ireland, Edinburgh Kara >>>>>>>>>> There was a W A Peterkin who played Rugby for Scotland he is in a team photograph 1885 here: http://www.cliftonrfchistory.co.uk/internationals/scotland/evans/evans.htm Enough similarity to the other photo (taken ten years later) to think it could be him . . . ?

Hi Lorette and Anne I have no connection to any of the people mentioned but I just wanted to say 'Great Work Lorette'. It is all interesting reading and makes me want to go and read more . . . distractions like this are why my tree stands still while I work on those of strangers! Rhetoric Question: Why is it so easy to find things for other people? >From Papers Past (NZ National Library newspaper archive): Crossley, Grainger, and Peterkin also performed in Wellington, NZ November 1903. She was billed as Australia's Greatest Contralto and was given a Civic Reception by the Mayor of Wellington. Last trains from Wellington to Lower Hutt were delayed 'until after the concerts' on the 27th and 28th of November. William A Peterkin was apparently born in Scotland c.1861 He belonged to the D'Oyle Carte Opera Company 1894-1895 brief details and a PHOTOGRAPH appear here: http://math.boisestate,edu/GaS/whowaswho/P-Q/PeterkinWA.htm If link no good you google 'D'Oyle Carte Opera Company Who is Who' The BBC Proms Archive lists 146 performances for W A Peterkin, by date, role, conductor, and place. There is a gap between November 1902 and August 1904 which seems to fit dates 'touring' - I have not looked at this thoroughly. There was a W A Peterkin who played Rugby for Scotland he is in a team photograph 1885 here: http://www.cliftonrfchistory.co.uk/internationals/scotland/evans/evans.htm Enough similarity to the other photo (taken ten years later) to think it could be him . . . ? Regards Kara DRURY NZ >>>>>> further to my last information on W A Peterson It appears he was back in England by at least the 7 Oct 1904 listed Queens Hall Promenade concerts 23 Oct 1909 Queens hall Promenade concerts found nothing after this what was his christian name W A ?

Dear Lyn, Here he is: SURNAME BIRTLES ........ GIVEN NAME(S) GEORGE W .......... INDEX YEAR 1912 ......... FATHER GEORGE J ......... MOTHER ETHEL M ........ PLACE OF REGISTRATION WATERLOO ........ REGISTRATION YEAR 1912 ......... REGISTRATION NUMBER 23274 ........ Cheers, Tony Moore (Castle Hill, NSW) @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ On 8 Oct 2010 at 19:48, Lyn Mealey wrote: From: "Lyn Mealey" <[email protected]> To: "Rootsweb Sydney" <[email protected]> Date sent: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 19:48:29 +1100 Subject: [ANS] Birth Lookup George William BIRTLES 1912/13 Send reply to: [email protected] > Would SKS please be kind enough to look for the birth of George William Birtles around 1912/13. > Lyn No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.862 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3183 - Release Date: 10/08/10 05:34:00

Would SKS please be kind enough to look for the birth of George William Birtles around 1912/13. Thank you Regards Lyn

Have tried the Ryerson Index, no luck. After an article about a child that fell from a window of a flat in Sydney bewtween April 1955 and July 1961, he was paralized in the fall, his parents were Lillian known as Lee Watso and Hypnotist Douglas James Watson known as Digger Watson. Regards Joan

Dear Bill, Thank you for your message - I will give it a go. Kind regards, Joan. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 5:56 PM Subject: Re: [ANS] Fw: Trunkey Creek > Dear Joan, > The miner registrations have been copied by Teapot Genealogy and released > on > CD. > You may well find him there. > Sincerely, Bill > >> >> Researching my g/father Robert JONES, b. 1875 Mayfield, Field of Mars nr. >> Parramatta to William Henry Jones & Elizabeth (Young/Perry) brother of >> Henry: James, John, Alfred: step-brother of Elizabeth Perry & Alexander >> Perry. >> Robert married (H)Ellen Barnes 1904 Balmain. Children: Robt. Wm. Henry: >> Alfred John: Elizabeth Ellen: Doris. Ellen d.1912: he was a heavy >> drinker: the children were placed in Our Childrens Home, Nth. Strathfield >> & Our Boys Home, Camden - later all stayed at the Nth. Strathfield home. >> When Ellen died Robert wandered around parts of NSW and appears to have >> stayed in Trunkey Creek for some time working around the areas gold >> mines. >> He lost contact with his children until the 1950's and died in 1961. > > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Joan, The Ryerson Index would only contain details of a Death, in some instances a Funeral, not an incident where a person was injured. At present the Ryerson Index is complete from 1967 for Sydney Morning Herald and 1991 for Daily Telegraph, the two major daily Sydney papers. There are quite a few entries for other Sydney Morning Herald going back to the 1830's, some years are even complete, others with few entries, some with a lot of entries. The Daily Telegraph is almost complete from 1990. Maybe look for the death of the parents and see if that Death Notice contains details of children, as most do. To find what papers have been indexed, go to the top left icon on the main page of the Ryerson Index, "Newspaper coverage". When you click on that a window will open up with all the papers being indexed starting with Sydney Metropolitan, Country NSW and progressing through the states. Click on the newspaper you wish to know about, and a page will come up with details regarding that paper. Towards the bottom of the page in blue there is something about dates indexed. By clicking on that a page, or pages will open up detailing exactly what dates and years have been included in the index. At present that is up to date as of last weekend, and will change about every fortnight as more entries are added. The Sydney Morning Heralds are available on line as a "subscription service" up to 1990. You can take out a 24 hour subscription, or longer. www.smh.com.au should get you more details. Sincerely, Bill > Have tried the Ryerson Index, no luck. After an article about a child that > fell from a window of a flat in Sydney bewtween April 1955 and July 1961, > he was paralized in the fall, his parents were Lillian known as Lee Watso > and Hypnotist Douglas James Watson known as Digger Watson.

Have you tried the new Trove website? http://www.nla.gov.au/ndp/ Mary After an article about a child that fell from a window of a flat in Sydney bewtween April 1955 and July 1961, he was paralized in the fall, his parents were Lillian known as Lee Watso and Hypnotist Douglas James Watson known as Digger Watson. > Regards > Joan > Kind regards Mary Cunningham Core Developments NQ Pty Ltd PO Box 3761 Hermit Park Qld 4812 P 07 4772 6026 F 07 4772 6027 E [email protected]