You could have a look on wotif for accommodation. Although I live in the area I don't really know of any moderate priced in City. The Travelodge Newcastle City on wotif is $145 per night It is actually near the City Library. Ibis Hotel is in City - though rooms are small $140 on wotif.com. I don't know where the Family History Library is (so can't help there sorry). Also I would like to point out the transport (bus only 1 per hour or less.) in Newcastle isn't very good so you will need to stay close to town (unless you have a car). Hope this helps. ----- Subject: [ANS] Off Topic - Accommodation Newcastle Hi All If you can help please reply to me off list so I don't clog up the works. I'm looking for a moderately priced motel reasonably close to the Newcastle CBD.

Email: [email protected] Thanks Beryl Beryl O'Gorman Greensborough Vic Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beryl O'Gorman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 12:49 PM Subject: [ANS] Off Topic - Accommodation Newcastle > Hi All > > If you can help please reply to me off list so I don't clog up the works.

Hi All If you can help please reply to me off list so I don't clog up the works. I'm looking for a moderately priced motel reasonably close to the Newcastle CBD. We plan to visit the FH Library on the Thursday and the City Library on the Friday. Thanks for any suggestions. We are not familiar with Newcastle at all. Regards Beryl Beryl O'Gorman Greensborough Vic Australia

Sue Did you check to see if you were logged in ...Name & password? I too have an Ancestry Acc. and have noticed recently, I have to Login each time Not long ago I could remain permenantly logged on. Margaret in NZ ________________________________ From: Sue Ahrens <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, 1 November, 2010 11:55:36 AM Subject: Re: [ANS] NSW Coroner's Inquest indexes now on line Has anyone else had trouble getting into this database? Whatever I try, either searching for a person or browsing a year, it keeps telling me that I need an ancestry.com.au account to see any details. But I already have such an account (despite living in England), so it's all quite frustrating. I emailed Ancestry and they replied very promptly to say that they had managed to get in OK from my account so the problem must be with my computer. They advised me to put the ancestry site into my Trusted Sites, which I did, in both my browser and my firewall, but that didn't help.  I've emailed them again but no response yet. Does anyone have any other suggestions? Sue -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marg M Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 12:26 PM . . Latest on line now on Ancestry New South Wales, Australia, Registers of Coroners' Inquests, 1796-1942 Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for the thought, Margaret, but yes I was definitely properly logged in - other things worked fine. I don't have any trouble staying logged in, either - can't think why this doesn't work for you. Sue -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Margaret Brook Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 8:22 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ANS] NSW Coroner's Inquest indexes now on line Sue Did you check to see if you were logged in ...Name & password? I too have an Ancestry Acc. and have noticed recently, I have to Login each time Not long ago I could remain permenantly logged on. Margaret in NZ

I haven't had any trouble accessing the site. However one entry that I would like to see isn't in our Ark Kit at our Library, it appears they miss capturing the records for 1823-1828, only 1821-22 is on reel 2233 I would really like a look up please, if someone is searching these records, of the below case for HUTTON, in particular page 109 which contains information an ancestor gave, she was a midwife. HUTTON 17 April 1824 female still-born child, Sydney pp.105-114 NRS 5602 [2/8289] Reel 2233 deceased . Karen On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Sue Ahrens <[email protected]> wrote: > Has anyone else had trouble getting into this database?

Many thanks to Bill and Jenny for the very helpful advice. This has given me a good start for my research. Cathy On 1/11/2010, at 10:55 AM, Bill wrote: > Dear Cathy, > > Some records have been copied to microfilm and films are available > at the > State Records Reading Room in Globe Street, THE ROCKS off George > Street near > CIRCULAR QUAY. > > All original records are held at State Records, KINGSWOOD which is > a little > hard to get to by public transport. Train to ST MARYS where there > is a bus > service which loops around via the University of Western Sydney to > PENRITH. > > Take lunch, as there are no shops nearby. You will need > identification to > get a free Readers Ticket which lasts for life, if you are going to > look at > original records. > > I would see if I could find the name on www.records.nsw.gov.au > which may > give you a starting point as to where you will find the records. > > There are records relating to vessels entering and leaving Sydney > Harbour in > chronological order, and these contain crew names, with sparse > details. > > On the same website you will find Archives in Brief (Help Sheets) > which may > be worth reading for the subjects of interest before your trip. > > Sydney Morning Herald is now available on line on the National Library > website and there may be reports there relating to the shipping > incident. It > could well be under Country News, with a sub heading of the nearest > town, > and ever so brief. Some of the Optical Character Recognition is not > the > best, as is the print from those times, and if one letter is > deformed it > makes it difficult to search by word. Certainly a wonderful > resource though. > > Sincerely, Bill > >> I am coming to Sydney near the end of November and would like to do >> some research there. I would be grateful for any advice on where to >> find records on the following: >> >> My great great grandfather was George OSBURNE born 1813 in Sydney, He >> was apprenticed to Thomas Day, boat builder (1828 Census) >> and spent about 8 years at sea on whaling ships, before marrying Ann >> LOVEMORE in Sydney in 1837. In 1840 he sailed south to Melbourne with >> his family and George Lily and later to to Portland where he settled >> in 1844. >> > > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post > any > reply...... Thank you! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

----- Original Message ----- From: "Cathy Dowie" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 8:12 AM Subject: [ANS] George Osburne of Sydney, ships carpenter Hi Cathy > I am coming to Sydney near the end of November and would like to do > some research there. I would be grateful for any advice on where to > find records on the following: > > My great great grandfather was George OSBURNE born 1813 in Sydney, He > was apprenticed to Thomas Day, boat builder (1828 Census) Unsure who his parents were , possibly William ( Ex soldier) & Mary OSBURNE ( many spellings) ?? More records to be found on Thomas DAY, boatbuilder. His parents were Thomas DAY late of 73rd Regiment and Mary CLAYTON per Lady Julianna http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~garter1/daythom.htm > and spent about 8 years at sea on whaling ships, before marrying Ann > LOVEMORE in Sydney in 1837. In 1840 he sailed south to Melbourne with > his family and George Lily and later to to Portland where he settled > in 1844. > > He was said to have been ship's carpenter on whaling ships between > 1830 and 1837, one of which took Samuel MARSDEN to New Zealand. > (Marsden sailed to NZ 7 times between 1814 and 1837.) He was also on > a ship which was struck a sunken reef and sank with many crew members > lost. George was one of the lucky ones who was picked up by another > whaling vessel. He was also said to have been on a ship which was > attacked by Maoris and was badly scarred. Unsure how you could confirm this? Maybe there are refs in the MARDEN papers at the Mitchell Library ? > I would like to know the right places to go to obtain information. Are 3 places ............... NSW State/ Mitchell Libraries, Soc of Australian Genealogists & NSW State Records out at Kingswood > > I would love to find him on a crew list for a whaling ship, or see > his apprenticeship records. State Records published a DVD some 18 months ago called Old Register 1794 -1825. I found ref to the apprenticeship of Thomas DAY to William COSSER c 1813 Suggest you email State Records and ask about apprenticeship records after 1825 . Unsure if any survive ? > > Where would I find "passenger lists" for the sailing of Convict > Ship Palambam 1831 to Sydney? These are called Convict Indents and are in a large set of fiche in many AUS libraries Bye MargM Sydney List Admin

Good morning to all I am coming to Sydney near the end of November and would like to do some research there. I would be grateful for any advice on where to find records on the following: My great great grandfather was George OSBURNE born 1813 in Sydney, He was apprenticed to Thomas Day, boat builder (1828 Census) and spent about 8 years at sea on whaling ships, before marrying Ann LOVEMORE in Sydney in 1837. In 1840 he sailed south to Melbourne with his family and George Lily and later to to Portland where he settled in 1844. He was said to have been ship's carpenter on whaling ships between 1830 and 1837, one of which took Samuel MARSDEN to New Zealand. (Marsden sailed to NZ 7 times between 1814 and 1837.) He was also on a ship which was struck a sunken reef and sank with many crew members lost. George was one of the lucky ones who was picked up by another whaling vessel. He was also said to have been on a ship which was attacked by Maoris and was badly scarred. I would like to know the right places to go to obtain information. I would love to find him on a crew list for a whaling ship, or see his apprenticeship records. Where would I find "passenger lists" for the sailing of Convict Ship Palambam 1831 to Sydney? Please excuse my lengthy letter. Looking forward to some advice Cathy in Christchurch

thanks Mary, nice to know it may prove useful down under. mike On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 12:22 AM, Mary Cunningham <[email protected]>wrote: > Thanks Mike > > On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 8:02 AM, mike spencer <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi list, > > for those with English ancestry the Yesterdays site has been > > updated with further records of those persons sentenced by Quarter > Sessions > > in Derbyshire to transportation to life "Beyond the Seas".. > > > > Masses of Miscellany, Wills and other records of persons from throughout > > the > > British Isles. > > > > Link below, if it fails Google Yesterdays Journey > > > > mike > > > > -- > > http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm<http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Espire/Yesterday/index.htm> > <http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Espire/Yesterday/index.htm> > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > > reply...... Thank you! > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > Kind regards > > Mary Cunningham > > Core Developments NQ Pty Ltd > PO Box 3761 > Hermit Park Qld 4812 > > P 07 4772 6026 > F 07 4772 6027 > E [email protected] > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

Dear Cathy, Some records have been copied to microfilm and films are available at the State Records Reading Room in Globe Street, THE ROCKS off George Street near CIRCULAR QUAY. All original records are held at State Records, KINGSWOOD which is a little hard to get to by public transport. Train to ST MARYS where there is a bus service which loops around via the University of Western Sydney to PENRITH. Take lunch, as there are no shops nearby. You will need identification to get a free Readers Ticket which lasts for life, if you are going to look at original records. I would see if I could find the name on www.records.nsw.gov.au which may give you a starting point as to where you will find the records. There are records relating to vessels entering and leaving Sydney Harbour in chronological order, and these contain crew names, with sparse details. On the same website you will find Archives in Brief (Help Sheets) which may be worth reading for the subjects of interest before your trip. Sydney Morning Herald is now available on line on the National Library website and there may be reports there relating to the shipping incident. It could well be under Country News, with a sub heading of the nearest town, and ever so brief. Some of the Optical Character Recognition is not the best, as is the print from those times, and if one letter is deformed it makes it difficult to search by word. Certainly a wonderful resource though. Sincerely, Bill > I am coming to Sydney near the end of November and would like to do > some research there. I would be grateful for any advice on where to > find records on the following: > > My great great grandfather was George OSBURNE born 1813 in Sydney, He > was apprenticed to Thomas Day, boat builder (1828 Census) > and spent about 8 years at sea on whaling ships, before marrying Ann > LOVEMORE in Sydney in 1837. In 1840 he sailed south to Melbourne with > his family and George Lily and later to to Portland where he settled > in 1844. >

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Hi Margaret Thanks for posting such fantastic news. Karen

Has anyone else had trouble getting into this database? Whatever I try, either searching for a person or browsing a year, it keeps telling me that I need an ancestry.com.au account to see any details. But I already have such an account (despite living in England), so it's all quite frustrating. I emailed Ancestry and they replied very promptly to say that they had managed to get in OK from my account so the problem must be with my computer. They advised me to put the ancestry site into my Trusted Sites, which I did, in both my browser and my firewall, but that didn't help. I've emailed them again but no response yet. Does anyone have any other suggestions? Sue -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marg M Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 12:26 PM . . Latest on line now on Ancestry New South Wales, Australia, Registers of Coroners' Inquests, 1796-1942

http://newsstore.fairfax.com.au/apps/help/qa.ac?sy=nstore#top is now FREE Bye MargM List Admin

----- Original Message ----- From: "Wendy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 1:23 PM Subject: [ANS] surnames MALE, POLLARD, SMYTH > Hello List, > > I have just joined this list as I'm at a loss in finding more on my THOMAS > family. > > William and Mary THOMAS [nee DELAHIDE] marr 1895 at Silverton NSW * have > transcription] have death's for both William sen and Mary in South Aust > 1926 Hi Wendy Its usually alot easier to work back from some fixed proven person than forward from a maybe / maybe not one > Veronica marr a Samuel MALE 1941 Sydney That seems a tad late for someone b in 1895 to get married ?? > Florence marr a Joseph POLLARD 1915 Glebe Full names were Florence Amy and Joseph Thompson In 1930 they were living in Palmerston Ave Glebe. He was a carpenter By 1954 they have moved out to Girraween and there was a Mavis Emily Lily POLLARD at the same address She married Gordon Jackson TURTON 1954 Parramatta Joseph T POLLARD d 1964. Manly Florence Amy POLLARD in 1979 The Ryerson data base is down at the moment so cant check it HTH Bye MargM Sydney List Admin . > >

Hello MargM I am working backwards! My Grandmother was Margaret THOMAS b 1886, my Mother never knew her Aunts and Uncle! When my Great Grandparents died both in 1926 Veronica Gladys May THOMAS [ aka Gladys ] was informant so she was still not married then! I had today found that information that you have supplied...what I'm now trying to do is find if these people are my G/Aunties and to find their deaths do I can then purchase certificates. William J.W.THOMAS died in Camperdown 1954 [ never married ] Cheers Wendy > Hi Wendy > Its usually alot easier to work back from some fixed proven person than > forward from a maybe / maybe not one > Bye > MargM

Dear Wendy, All Rootsweb Lists one is supposed to snip the majority of the last message, leaving enough to show the question asked. That requirement is enforced here more than other lists. Did you try the Ryerson Index for other deaths? The Probate Index is a set of microfiche held by most groups, State Records, Society of Australian Genealogists etc and good for finding deaths, giving the date, however the deceased had to have something to leave to be there. Back in those times a lot of females did not have an estate, but if you can find the husband on there, the papers at State Records (to c1965) will have the Last Will and Testament. In a lot of cases the wife is the Executor, and makes an Affidavit to the Probate Division of the Supreme Court, so you get some information about her from that. Sincerely, Bill > I have William J.S. THOMAS's death/c 1954 @ Camerdown NSW; no information > on > it to give a clue other than it is my Wiliam J.S.THOMAS. If I could find a > death for the girls I just may be able to break through the wall. > > Bill re; snipping! not sure what has gone on here as I have only sent one

Dear Wendy, On the NSW Probate Index for 1954 there are three William THOMAS entries, and in 1955 one more who died in 1954. None of them however have J.S. as initials for a middle name. Sincerely, Bill > Florence A. 1893 Silverton > Veronica G.M. b *1895 Silverton > William J.S. b *1897 Silverton d *1954 Camperdown NSW > > This is all I have on them! > I have found that maybe Ada marr a Charles SMYTH 1910 Broken Hill > Florence marr a Joseph POLLARD 1915 Glebe > Veronica marr a Samuel MALE 1941 Sydney. > > Would anyone have these people in their family..or have sources that could > help me to pin them down ie: death place; ref # or advice on where to look > for them.

Dear Wendy, -------------------------------------------------- From: "Wendy" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 1:23 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: [ANS] surnames MALE, POLLARD, SMYTH > Hello List, > > I have just joined this list as I'm at a loss in finding more on my THOMAS > family. > > William and Mary THOMAS [nee DELAHIDE] marr 1895 at Silverton NSW * have > transcription] have death's for both William sen and Mary in South Aust > 1926 > > issue to them was > Margaret Mary b 1886 * b/c Silverton > Ada bc 1888! Silverton > Keziah b 1888..* d/c *1888 Silverton d* 1888 Broken Hill NSW > Annie bc 1891 > Florence A. 1893 Silverton > Veronica G.M. b *1895 Silverton > William J.S. b *1897 Silverton d *1954 Camperdown NSW > > This is all I have on them! > I have found that maybe Ada marr a Charles SMYTH 1910 Broken Hill > Florence marr a Joseph POLLARD 1915 Glebe > Veronica marr a Samuel MALE 1941 Sydney. > > Would anyone have these people in their family..or have sources that could > help me to pin them down ie: death place; ref # or advice on where to look > for them. > > Cheers > Wendy > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message