Marg M wrote: I wondered if anyone had ever tripped up over the story of Constance KENT ? Phillip Adams interviewed the author of a book about the story a couple of years ago: http://www.abc.net.au/rn/latenightlive/stories/2008/2398414.htm Your post reminded me.... goodness my head is filled with "stuff"! Rosemary

Hello it was such an interesting talk ... I did have a quick look last night on the net. Michelle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marg M" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 12:16 PM Subject: [ANS] Truth is stranger than fiction ! > > > I wondered if anyone had ever tripped up over the story of Constance KENT > ? > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constance_Kent > > I hadnt till yesterday ............ Well worth reading what wikipedia > relates Its an amazing story and to think she landed up as matron of > Parramatta Girls home and then a nurses home in Maitland and died aged 100 > . > Google has alot more to say http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O10ETbUE4cI ; > http://adbonline.anu.edu.au/biogs/AS10541b.htm; > > Bye > > MargM > List Admin > > > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I wondered if anyone had ever tripped up over the story of Constance KENT ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constance_Kent I hadnt till yesterday ............ Well worth reading what wikipedia relates Its an amazing story and to think she landed up as matron of Parramatta Girls home and then a nurses home in Maitland and died aged 100 . Google has alot more to say http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O10ETbUE4cI ; http://adbonline.anu.edu.au/biogs/AS10541b.htm; Bye MargM List Admin

Wendy, The reason I'm asking for a death date is that maybe there will be a death notice which will have children listed. Debbie -------------------------------------------------- From: "Wendy" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 4:42 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [ANS] surnames MALE, POLLARD, SMYTH > Thank you Debbie, > I have Mary's death/c..it is their children that I seeking! > marriages..deaths and issue. > > Wendy > West Aust > >> Hi Wendy, >> I noticed this: >> I am presuming you have the death certificates for William and Mary >> Thomas - >> when did they die in 1926? I'm looking on Trove for you but the >> references >> are "Coming Soon" >> Debbie McKay >> Sth Australia > > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Wendy, I noticed this: > William and Mary THOMAS [nee DELAHIDE] marr 1895 at Silverton NSW * have > transcription] have death's for both William sen and Mary in South Aust > 1926 I am presuming you have the death certificates for William and Mary Thomas - when did they die in 1926? I'm looking on Trove for you but the references are "Coming Soon" Debbie McKay Sth Australia > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Debbie, Sorry dod for Maryis 2/5/1026 and believe William died a matter of weeks before that. Cheers Wendy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debbie McKay" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 2:19 PM Subject: Re: [ANS] surnames MALE, POLLARD, SMYTH > Wendy, The reason I'm asking for a death date is that maybe there will be > a > death notice which will have children listed. > Debbie >

Thank you Debbie, I have Mary's death/c..it is their children that I seeking! marriages..deaths and issue. Wendy West Aust > Hi Wendy, > I noticed this: > I am presuming you have the death certificates for William and Mary > Thomas - > when did they die in 1926? I'm looking on Trove for you but the > references > are "Coming Soon" > Debbie McKay > Sth Australia

Dear Peter, Did you check the same paper, or that of a day or two before for a Death Notice, and Funeral Notice? Death and Funeral Notices in those times were fairly brief, often only a Funeral Notice to save on costs. At State Records, Kingswood there are Inquest files (if they "survived"). One of those will give you all statements from all witnesses, reports of Post Mortem, and any other reports. Finally the finding of the Coroner. Have a look at www.records.nsw.gov.au and look for Archives in Brief No. 4 which deals with Inquests. There are a couple of agents who will look for this file for you for what is said to be a reasonable fee. Sincerely, Bill > > I have searched the newspapers nla gov au database and have come across > this > notice. > >>From the Sydney Morning Herald dated 18 May 1909 > > Woollahra Residents Death. > > Edward Mowbray, Lately living a Edgecliff Rd Woolahra, > Died at Sydney Hospital last night under circumstances > which deemed advisable to report to the Coroner. Deceased > usually enjoyed good health, but on Sunday complained to > his wife of a headache. After having tea the same night > he went towards the kitchen,but fell and struck his head > on the floor. Severe pains in the head followed and a doctor > was called in, who ordered his removal to the hospital, > where he died last evening. A certificate as to cause of > death has not been given and the police will report the matter > to the coroner.

Hello Listers, Thank you to all those who have answered my previous queries. I have an Edward Stenson Vernon MOWBRAY in my tree. To my knowledge he was born in Wiaopa New Zealand and died in Sydney Australia in 1909. I have found this record of a death which I believe to be his in the NSW database. The information matches what I have. 4191/1909 MOWBRAY EDWARD S V EDWARD S SYDNEY I have searched the newspapers nla gov au database and have come across this notice. >From the Sydney Morning Herald dated 18 May 1909 Woollahra Residents Death. Edward Mowbray, Lately living a Edgecliff Rd Woolahra, Died at Sydney Hospital last night under circumstances which deemed advisable to report to the Coroner. Deceased usually enjoyed good health, but on Sunday complained to his wife of a headache. After having tea the same night he went towards the kitchen,but fell and struck his head on the floor. Severe pains in the head followed and a doctor was called in, who ordered his removal to the hospital, where he died last evening. A certificate as to cause of death has not been given and the police will report the matter to the coroner. Where can I go to find out more about this matter and maybe confirm it is my Edward MOWBRAY? There seems to have been at least one other Edward MOWBRAY around Sydney at the same time. I have tried the Coroners database on Ancestry but it doesn't have any Edward MOWBRAY. Can anyone suggest where I might be able to get a coroners report or maybe the police report. I have found this record of a marriage which matches my records. As his first wife Eliza Ann WADHAM died in 1900 in Auckland New Zealand. 9263/1903 MOWBRAY EDWARD SV HARKNESS GERTRUDE REDFERN Is anyone else researching these lines? Thank you in advance for any help received. Regards Peter >From Sunny Auckland New Zealand.

Leith, You might ? pick-up something at the North Sydney Council website also. http://www.northsydney.nsw.gov.au/www/html/3825-heritage-databases.asp?intSiteID=1 Worth a look anyway ! Cheers Diane -------------------------------------------------- From: "Leith Davis" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 5:08 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [ANS] "Navatu", Bay Road North Sydney/Waverton? > I have checked Google maps and yes - it also explains another > photo/postcard > in Nana's album. There is a view across parkland and the harbour with one > naval ship in the foreground to the right, another in the background to > the > left. Woolcott St crosses Bay Road to parkland and the harbour just next > to > HMAS Waterhen (wouldn't have been 'Waterhen' then but bet was naval land). > I'd say 'Navatu' was very close to Bay Road and the harbour. > I was always under the impression that both Nana's parents lived in the > terrace house at Milsons Point until their deaths in the early 1930s - I > will have to revisit the library and the Post Office Directories :) > Leith > > On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Leith Davis <[email protected]> wrote: > >> wow Diane, that must be the same house - I thought it would be such a >> needle in a haystack, it seems nothing short of miraculous that someone >> else >> has come across it >> >> thank you >> Leith >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Diane <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Leith, >>> >>> For what it is worth ... I came across an obscure reference to a street >>> address (c.1915) given as - Navatu, Wollcott Street, off Bay Road, North >>> Sydney, New South Wales. >>> >>> There is a Woolcott Street - off Bay Road - at Waverton, which may be >>> worth >>> following up. Google maps will take you there - >>> >>> http://maps.google.com.au >>> >>> >>> HTH >>> >>> Diane >>> Hills District >>> Nth West Sydney >>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "Leith Davis" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 10:31 AM >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Subject: [ANS] "Navatu", Bay Road North Sydney/Waverton? >>> >>> > My grandmother's Kilpatrick family lived in Milsons Point in an end >>> > terrace >>> > house. I have recently been lent a couple of my grandmother's photo >>> > albums, >>> > and there are photos of her mother, Louisa nee Rodero, 'at "Navatu" '. >>> > Under one of these photos my grandmother has written 'my Mother at Bay >>> > Road'. It was a substantial Federation bungalow by the looks of it, >>> with >>> > an >>> > ornately carved wooden front gate, in that style. The photos would >>> > have >>> > been taken in the mid 1920s. >>> > I'm intrigued because I lived in Bay Road for a time, and have friends >>> > living there now. Just wondering if anyone has stumbled across, or >>> > has >>> > any >>> > clues on investigating further? >>> > >>> > Leith Davis >>> >>> >>> Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any >>> reply...... Thank you! >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have checked Google maps and yes - it also explains another photo/postcard in Nana's album. There is a view across parkland and the harbour with one naval ship in the foreground to the right, another in the background to the left. Woolcott St crosses Bay Road to parkland and the harbour just next to HMAS Waterhen (wouldn't have been 'Waterhen' then but bet was naval land). I'd say 'Navatu' was very close to Bay Road and the harbour. I was always under the impression that both Nana's parents lived in the terrace house at Milsons Point until their deaths in the early 1930s - I will have to revisit the library and the Post Office Directories :) Leith On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Leith Davis <[email protected]> wrote: > wow Diane, that must be the same house - I thought it would be such a > needle in a haystack, it seems nothing short of miraculous that someone else > has come across it > > thank you > Leith > > > On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Diane <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Leith, >> >> For what it is worth ... I came across an obscure reference to a street >> address (c.1915) given as - Navatu, Wollcott Street, off Bay Road, North >> Sydney, New South Wales. >> >> There is a Woolcott Street - off Bay Road - at Waverton, which may be >> worth >> following up. Google maps will take you there - >> >> http://maps.google.com.au >> >> >> HTH >> >> Diane >> Hills District >> Nth West Sydney >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Leith Davis" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 10:31 AM >> To: <[email protected]> >> Subject: [ANS] "Navatu", Bay Road North Sydney/Waverton? >> >> > My grandmother's Kilpatrick family lived in Milsons Point in an end >> > terrace >> > house. I have recently been lent a couple of my grandmother's photo >> > albums, >> > and there are photos of her mother, Louisa nee Rodero, 'at "Navatu" '. >> > Under one of these photos my grandmother has written 'my Mother at Bay >> > Road'. It was a substantial Federation bungalow by the looks of it, >> with >> > an >> > ornately carved wooden front gate, in that style. The photos would have >> > been taken in the mid 1920s. >> > I'm intrigued because I lived in Bay Road for a time, and have friends >> > living there now. Just wondering if anyone has stumbled across, or has >> > any >> > clues on investigating further? >> > >> > Leith Davis >> >> >> Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any >> reply...... Thank you! >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >

wow Diane, that must be the same house - I thought it would be such a needle in a haystack, it seems nothing short of miraculous that someone else has come across it thank you Leith On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Diane <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Leith, > > For what it is worth ... I came across an obscure reference to a street > address (c.1915) given as - Navatu, Wollcott Street, off Bay Road, North > Sydney, New South Wales. > > There is a Woolcott Street - off Bay Road - at Waverton, which may be worth > following up. Google maps will take you there - > > http://maps.google.com.au > > > HTH > > Diane > Hills District > Nth West Sydney > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Leith Davis" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 10:31 AM > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: [ANS] "Navatu", Bay Road North Sydney/Waverton? > > > My grandmother's Kilpatrick family lived in Milsons Point in an end > > terrace > > house. I have recently been lent a couple of my grandmother's photo > > albums, > > and there are photos of her mother, Louisa nee Rodero, 'at "Navatu" '. > > Under one of these photos my grandmother has written 'my Mother at Bay > > Road'. It was a substantial Federation bungalow by the looks of it, with > > an > > ornately carved wooden front gate, in that style. The photos would have > > been taken in the mid 1920s. > > I'm intrigued because I lived in Bay Road for a time, and have friends > > living there now. Just wondering if anyone has stumbled across, or has > > any > > clues on investigating further? > > > > Leith Davis > > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Leith, For what it is worth ... I came across an obscure reference to a street address (c.1915) given as - Navatu, Wollcott Street, off Bay Road, North Sydney, New South Wales. There is a Woolcott Street - off Bay Road - at Waverton, which may be worth following up. Google maps will take you there - http://maps.google.com.au HTH Diane Hills District Nth West Sydney -------------------------------------------------- From: "Leith Davis" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 10:31 AM To: <[email protected]> Subject: [ANS] "Navatu", Bay Road North Sydney/Waverton? > My grandmother's Kilpatrick family lived in Milsons Point in an end > terrace > house. I have recently been lent a couple of my grandmother's photo > albums, > and there are photos of her mother, Louisa nee Rodero, 'at "Navatu" '. > Under one of these photos my grandmother has written 'my Mother at Bay > Road'. It was a substantial Federation bungalow by the looks of it, with > an > ornately carved wooden front gate, in that style. The photos would have > been taken in the mid 1920s. > I'm intrigued because I lived in Bay Road for a time, and have friends > living there now. Just wondering if anyone has stumbled across, or has > any > clues on investigating further? > > Leith Davis

My grandmother's Kilpatrick family lived in Milsons Point in an end terrace house. I have recently been lent a couple of my grandmother's photo albums, and there are photos of her mother, Louisa nee Rodero, 'at "Navatu" '. Under one of these photos my grandmother has written 'my Mother at Bay Road'. It was a substantial Federation bungalow by the looks of it, with an ornately carved wooden front gate, in that style. The photos would have been taken in the mid 1920s. I'm intrigued because I lived in Bay Road for a time, and have friends living there now. Just wondering if anyone has stumbled across, or has any clues on investigating further? Leith Davis On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 7:32 AM, Cathy Dowie <[email protected]> wrote: > Here I am again. > Does anyone have a current email address for Noel Mann, family > historian? > I used to correspond with him back in the 1980's! > > I would be grateful for any assistance. > > Thanks also to Marg M for the comprehensive reply re my trip, > shipping and the Osborn family. > There is so much to plan for and time seems to be flying. > > Cathy > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Here I am again. Does anyone have a current email address for Noel Mann, family historian? I used to correspond with him back in the 1980's! I would be grateful for any assistance. Thanks also to Marg M for the comprehensive reply re my trip, shipping and the Osborn family. There is so much to plan for and time seems to be flying. Cathy

Hi Marg & Fellow Listers; Hope you won't mind this intrusion, but thought there may be ex Buena Vista Boys on List? There is to be a Re-Union for Buena Vista Boys Sat 27th November in Orange. If interested in attending; would you please contact me off list? Many Thanks; Robert KEMSLEY

Good morning Marg; Sincere thanks for your response to my posting re Ships arriving Sydney 1914-1951? I did have a quick look at the SMH, but will have to return to for a more detailed search, but; I seem to recall somewhere or other that if you knew the name of the Ship that departed London for example; you could find when it arrived Sydney, but I cannot now recall where to search. I've the following: BORDA Dep London 17 Sep 1914 - Arr Sydney approx 11 Nov 1914? ORANTO Dep London 14 Oct 1949 - Arr Sydney approx 4 Dec 1949 ESPERANCE BAY Dep Southampton 23 Dec 1950 - Arr Sydney approx 12 Feb 1951 The above based on a journey time of approx 52 days? I've also the opposite: I've the ORONTES Dep Sydney approx 1 May 1949 - Arr Southampton 21 Jun 1949 Kindest Regards; Robert KEMSLEY

----- Original Message ----- From: "Beryl O'Gorman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 12:49 PM Subject: [ANS] Off Topic - Accommodation Newcastle > Hi All > > If you can help please reply to me off list so I don't clog up the works. > I'm looking for a moderately priced motel reasonably close to the > Newcastle > CBD. We plan to visit the FH Library on the Thursday and the City Library > on > the Friday. Thanks for any suggestions. We are not familiar with Newcastle > at all. > Hi Beryl I just checked the City Libraries web site for info on parking but couldnt find any ref ? I have been to this library a few times but not recently There is limited parking in the street...... with I think parking meters??? and I know there was a parking station within 10 mins walk as have used it. Could be cheaper than a parking fine ! http://www.newcastle.nsw.gov.au/my_community/parking__and__transport Perhaps email the library and ask Driving up the F3 you take the 2nd turn off > Newcastle Road . There is a Formule1 motel on the right about 4 ks along Newcastle Road crn of Lakes Road . Have not stayed there as only live an hour south. Bring a brolly . Forecast is showers/rain Bye MargM Sydney List Admin

Hi Robert: Hi: I have some credits left at: http://www.findmypast.co.uk/welcome.jsp First, I found the name of a random passenger on that ship thru Ancestry, then I looked her up at findmypast: Name: Mrs Elizabeth ADAMS Date of departure: 16 September 1914 Port of departure: London Passenger destination port: Sydney, Australia Passenger destination: Sydney, Australia Date of Birth: 1891 (calculated from age) Age: 23 Marital status: Sex: Female Occupation: Married Passenger recorded on: Page 17 of 29 Ship: Borda Official Number:135340 Master's name: G A Millington Steamship Line: P & O Branch Service Where bound: Australia Square feet: 21510 Registered tonnage: 7036 Passengers on voyage: 974 Then I looked at the ship's manifest on Ancestry. The heading on the top of the passenger manifest says: "A List of Crew and Passengers arrived in the Ship Borda, Registered at Greenock, G. A. Millington?, Master, Rurthen?, Gross 11136, Nett 7036 Tons, from the Port of London & Melbourne to Sydney, New South Wales, 9th November, 1914." This is the only ship that you requested that I could find. Marg in Sunny Alberta, Canada On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 11:41 PM, Marg M <[email protected]> wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "KEMSLEY, Robert N. G." <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 12:53 PM > Subject: [ANS] Ships arriving Sydney 1914-1951? > > >>    I seem to recall a list, that if you knew the name of the Ship and >> approx arrival date in Sydney; you could find the actual arrival date? >> >>    I've the following: >> >>    BORDA Dep London 17 Sep 1914 - Arr Sydney approx 11 Nov 1914? >> >>    ORANTO Dep London 14 Oct 1949 - Arr Sydney approx 4 Dec 1949 >> >>    ESPERANCE BAY Dep Southampton 23 Dec 1950 - Arr Sydney approx 12 Feb >> 1951 >> >>    The above based on a journey time of approx 52 days? >> >>    I've also the opposite: >> >>    I've the ORONTES Dep Sydney approx 1 May 1949 - Arr Southampton 21 Jun >> 1949 >> >>    Are there Shipping Lists that I may obtain the desired information >> from? >> >> > Hi Robert > >  I'd check in the SMH first . You might find other news about this ships too > > http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home > advanced search > >  In NSW State Records on line indexes these is a shipping arrivals one > 1837 -1925 >  Also be worth looking in the NAA > http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/recordsearch/index.aspx >  under passenger lists 1921 -1950 or via a name search in immigration files >  Findmypast  UK  migration data base has departure info from 1890 -1960 but > thats not a free site > > > > bye > >          MargM > Sydney List Admin > > > > > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Beryl, The Family History Society Library is in Lambton. You could try the Executive Inn at New Lambton ($155) or The Tudor Inn and Boulevarde on Beaumont which are both in Hamilton (half way between the two). Wotif and Lastminute are both helpful sites. Sharon in Newcastle > If you can help please reply to me off list so I don't clog up the works. > I'm looking for a moderately priced motel reasonably close to the > Newcastle > CBD.