I have been trying to find the details of a inquest from 17 April 1824 Sydney for a still born female child; parents I believe were Sarah and Edward Hutton with witnesses Mary Bevett and Esther Dalton. I have just read that ancestry has added inquest records 1796-1942 for NSW; just wondering if the above inquested is listed please in the index? Karen

----- Original Message ----- From: "patrick callaghan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 12:20 PM Subject: [ANS] Test Message > Test Message > Hi Patrick The problem that can be caused by cross posting to multiple lists is for anyone replying . For this email I just clicked reply and just the Sydney list address came up . Had I hit 'reply all' all 4 addresses would have come up. My email address isnt on the subscribers list for AUS-NSW-Cemeteries so that part any reply would bounce and ref to it would come up in a pending mail list the Lists Admin gets I could of course just deleted that list address if I saw it in time All lists are working ........... Just coming up to a quiet time of year bye MargM Sydney List Admin

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Hello All, A great way to "test" is to go to the Archives of the group that you have joined and to check there if messages are coming through to the group. www.rootsweb.com find the group your after and check the archives: you can search or browse the archives and you will see if posts have been made and if you are receiving them. I use these tools quite often checking on older posts as you do at times find links to your families that you have picked up recently. Cheers Wendy ----- Original Message ----- From: "patrick callaghan" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 9:20 AM Subject: [ANS] Test Message

At a recent meeting at St. Peters Anglican Church Cooks River, great interest was shown in the history of brickmaking in the St. Peters area of Sydney. Conscious that many more may be unaware that their ancestors were employed in this area, the St. Peters Cooks River History Group have published on their web site a listing of all brickmaking families who have had a child baptised at St. Peters Church Cooks River during the period 1838-1899. This alphabetical listing gives: the date of birth of the family's first child baptised at St. Peters(not to be confused with the first born): the child's name and that of its parents: the surname: father's occupation and an abbreviated address. The listing and a report on the meeting are on the St. Peters Cooks River History web site, which is, www.stpeterscooksriverhistory.wordpress.com Bob and Laurel Horton, St. Peters Cooks River History Group.

Not sure if this will help or not, but I found it in records I tend to keep. INQUEST Grafton ID SURNAME GIVEN NAMES DATE HOW DIED 259 Riley John 26/09/1850 Accidently killed Newspapers Grafton KEY Field1 SOURCE PAGE COLUMN TYPE DATE TITLE GIVEN NAMES SURNAME RESIDENCE NOTES1 NOTES2 VOLUME PAGE NUMBER 4817 Argus 5 6 p 05/07/1906 Edward Riley Childrens Court. Aged 11 years Charged setting fire MargaretB Lake Macquarie NSW Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Bauer" <[email protected]> To: "Sydney Newsgroup" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 10:14 AM Subject: [ANS] Edward Riley > Hi Listers > I seem at a brick wall, and am rather reluctant to purchase certificates > at > this stage as this is not my own personal family. > So thought someone may be able to help via early Electoral look ups etc. > > please. > I am trying to track the birth of a EDWARD RILEY. > He married in 1893 at Grafton to an Elizabeth Jane White (usually known as > > Jane) and he died 1928 at Casino and the BMD indexes say his parents

----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Bauer" <[email protected]> To: "Sydney Newsgroup" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 10:14 AM Subject: [ANS] Edward Riley Hi Margaret . > So thought someone may be able to help via early Electoral look ups etc. > please. > I am trying to track the birth of a EDWARD RILEY. > He married in 1893 at Grafton to an Elizabeth Jane White (usually known as > Jane) They dont jump out of the 1903 NSW roll. Neither do her parents or 2 brothers :-) and he died 1928 at Casino and the BMD indexes say his parents were a > John and Ellen Riley. Jane survived him for many years and she died in > 1969 > and was buried with him at Casino. > This Edward's parents John and Ellen Riley also seem rather elusive to say > the least and so my thoughts are that they might be overseas and this > Edward > has emigrated from somewhere, but so far I can find nothing to prove my > thoughts. I think that to find info you are going to have to buy transcriptions of their marriage cert and his death Only other possible info source I can think of it there is a Casino Pioneers book BUT she was b in the Murrurundi area and you dont know where he came from ................. Bye MargM Sydney List Admin

Dear Margaret, There are no Edward RILEY entries in the NSW Probate Index with a 1928 Death Date. Sincerely, Bill > I seem at a brick wall, and am rather reluctant to purchase certificates > at > this stage as this is not my own personal family. > So thought someone may be able to help via early Electoral look ups etc. > please. > I am trying to track the birth of a EDWARD RILEY. > He married in 1893 at Grafton to an Elizabeth Jane White (usually known as > Jane) and he died 1928 at Casino and the BMD indexes say his parents were > a

Hi Listers I seem at a brick wall, and am rather reluctant to purchase certificates at this stage as this is not my own personal family. So thought someone may be able to help via early Electoral look ups etc. please. I am trying to track the birth of a EDWARD RILEY. He married in 1893 at Grafton to an Elizabeth Jane White (usually known as Jane) and he died 1928 at Casino and the BMD indexes say his parents were a John and Ellen Riley. Jane survived him for many years and she died in 1969 and was buried with him at Casino. This Edward's parents John and Ellen Riley also seem rather elusive to say the least and so my thoughts are that they might be overseas and this Edward has emigrated from somewhere, but so far I can find nothing to prove my thoughts. Does this sound familiar to anyone's research out there? If so I would love to hear from you. Thankyou Margaret Bauer ************************* Margaret Bauer Qld, Australia [email protected] *************************

----- Original Message ----- From: "sylvia kendrick" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 12:21 AM Subject: Re: [ANS] Noel Pickering > Hello Michelle thank you very much for taking the trouble to reply. I > have purchased the marriage cert. for this couple Hi again Sylvia ??? You have copy of this Noel PICKERNG to Martha HOWES m cert ??? If so did you get a transcription or copy from the NSW BDM Registry ?? Australian BDM have a lot more info than English ones . Was my guess correct ??????? and am wondering how I can > search the Electoral registers for them from the UK? Ancestry have these on line to 1954 ........... Have already looked I have looked at the > death index up to 1979 and there is no Noel P. listed which leads me to > hope > that he was living after this date. Like I said alot of water goes under a bridge in 63 years ............ They could have gone anywhere There are 2 refs to Noel PICKERINGs b c1921 in the Genesreunited data base ??? Bye MargM Sydney List Admin

hello Sylvia can you give more details of him .... what was his middle name, his occupation, date of birth Michelle ----- Original Message ----- From: "sylvia kendrick" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 12:21 AM Subject: Re: [ANS] Noel Pickering > Hello Michelle thank you very much for taking the trouble to reply. I > have purchased the marriage cert. for this couple and am wondering how I > can > search the Electoral registers for them from the UK? I have looked at the > death index up to 1979 and there is no Noel P. listed which leads me to > hope > that he was living after this date. Any other snippets you come across > would be gratefully received. > regards > Sylvia K > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Michelle H" <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 3:40 AM > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ANS] Noel Pickering > >> Hello >> >> On Ancestry.com.au I found a Noel Pickering in >> >> 1949 living at 14 Herbert St, Inverell and his occupation was a >> carpenter. >> >> 1953 Noel and Martha Hilda are living at 14 Herbert St, Inverell. His >> occupation a carpenter and hers a music teacher. >> >> www.nswbdn.com.au >> >> There is a Noel Pickering marrying Hilda Howes in Inverell in 1949. >> 13587/1949 >> >> i hope this helps >> >> Michelle >> Bateau Bay >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> >>>> I am searching for the family of my Uncle Noel Pickering who emigrated >>>> to >>>> Australia, arriving in Sidney January 1st 1947 on the Largs Bay ship. >>>> He >>>> travelled by free passage as an ex-serviceman in the British forces >>>> WW2. >>>> I have been searching for this family member since 1986 and would like >>>> to >>>> know where he lived, whether he married and if there are descendants in >>>> Australia who would like to know more about their family history. I >>>> have >>>> traced the family line to a John who died in 1716 having married three >>>> times and produced sixteen children. >>> >>> >>> Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any >>> reply...... Thank you! >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any >> reply...... Thank you! >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Sylvia, The Ryerson Index is a combined alphabetical index of all the papers indexed. There are of course hundreds of newspapers that are not being indexed, and of those being currently indexed, not all have back indexing taking place. Simply a matter of not enough volunteers. When the Ryerson Index was started about 15 years ago it was thought that the gap between official records, and current newspapers would be filled, and that is the case for the Sydney area, where both major newspapers are indexed, and back indexing is taking place of them. It does not necessarily apply though to country papers, or even suburban newspapers. By using the "Newspaper Coverage" icon on the main page, and clicking on the paper of interest, then clicking on the "dates indexed" a page will come up to tell you exactly what papers have in fact been indexed. The Ryerson Index is usually updated each second weekend, so frequent checking may be needed. Should you find an entry that fits, on the main page there is a Requesting a Lookup icon, and for many papers there are volunteers to provide you with the notice wording. Our country being much larger in size than England it is proving difficult to cover it all. Electoral Rolls are not searchable on line. The current roll is maintained electronically, however it needs a personal to an Electoral Office to check it, for privacy reasons. When responding please remove past messages except a little so that the thread can be followed to save on archiving space, and downloads that are not necessary, particularly considering listers on dial up. Sincerely, Bill > Dear Bill Thank you very much for taking the trouble to reply. Thanks > for the advice, I will put a follow up into the messages explaining that I > am searching from the UK. I have discovered the ryersonline index. Am I

----- Original Message ----- From: "sylvia kendrick" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 4:54 AM Subject: [ANS] Noel Pickering >I am searching for the family of my Uncle Noel Pickering who emigrated to >Australia, arriving in Sidney January 1st 1947 on the Largs Bay ship. He >travelled by free passage as an ex-serviceman in the British forces WW2. I >have been searching for this family member since 1986 and would like to >know where he lived, whether he married and if there are descendants in >Australia Hi Sylvia As Bill suggested its a really good move to give a clue to your location when posting on any foreign mailing list. Can make quite a difference with any reply. Alot of water goes under a bridge in 63 yrs. Appears to be only 1 x Noel PICKERING in the late 1940s in the records with no other middle names This Noel P married a Martha Hilda HOWES 1949 / 13587, Inverell. Thats a fair way NW from Sydney in the New England district of NSW. Seems to be only one Martha Hilda HOWES who fits . She was b 1911 so was 38 yrs old in 1949. Neither died in NSW to 1979 To further my guess work , Martha H had an older sister Jessie, who married an Archie YOUMAN in Armidale 1927 . Are more accessible records for these 2 as deaths of both are in http://www.ryersonindex.org/. Suggest you ask for look upsof both death notices and fingers crossed these will have name of any children bye MargM Sydney List Admin

Thankyou Bill and Marg! > Dear Sharon, > As a kid growing up I lived not far from there, and my memory of it is > that > the street was pretty much first class real estate. > It is long enough for old staff records to be available, so State Records, > Kingswood would probably be the storage place. > www.records.nsw.gov.au using gaol staff, prison staff or similar as > keywords > might turn up an archives in brief (help sheet) to help you. > Sincerely, Bill > >> >> It was 1943. And no I wouldn't be too disappointed as I remember great >> uncle >> Bill very fondly and really can't envision him on the "wrong" side!

Dear Sharon, As a kid growing up I lived not far from there, and my memory of it is that the street was pretty much first class real estate. It is long enough for old staff records to be available, so State Records, Kingswood would probably be the storage place. www.records.nsw.gov.au using gaol staff, prison staff or similar as keywords might turn up an archives in brief (help sheet) to help you. Sincerely, Bill > > It was 1943. And no I wouldn't be too disappointed as I remember great > uncle > Bill very fondly and really can't envision him on the "wrong" side! >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon McDermott" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 3:05 PM Subject: [ANS] Doncaster Ave > Hi all, > > I have just found an electoral enrolment entry for a relative giving his > address as 109 Doncaster Ave Kensington and his occupation as gaol. > > Do assume that he was in prison? And if so which one? > Hi Sharon At least the first 2 rules with this hobby is ' never assume anything' Cant see this address being a prison but Long Bay Goal isnt far from Kensington http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Bay_Correctional_Centre Bye MargM Sydney List Admin

Hello Bill, It was 1943. And no I wouldn't be too disappointed as I remember great uncle Bill very fondly and really can't envision him on the "wrong" side! regards, Sharon > Dear Sharon, > What time frame? > I would check Prison Department staff records. > He was probably a warder at Long Bay Gaol. > That way he is on the right side of the fence, which may disappoint. > Sincerely, Bill > >> >> I have just found an electoral enrolment entry for a relative giving his >> address as 109 Doncaster Ave Kensington and his occupation as gaol. >> >> Do assume that he was in prison? And if so which one?

Dear Sharon, What time frame? I would check Prison Department staff records. He was probably a warder at Long Bay Gaol. That way he is on the right side of the fence, which may disappoint. Sincerely, Bill > > I have just found an electoral enrolment entry for a relative giving his > address as 109 Doncaster Ave Kensington and his occupation as gaol. > > Do assume that he was in prison? And if so which one?

Hi all, I have just found an electoral enrolment entry for a relative giving his address as 109 Doncaster Ave Kensington and his occupation as gaol. Do assume that he was in prison? And if so which one? thanks, Sharon

Hello On Ancestry.com.au I found a Noel Pickering in 1949 living at 14 Herbert St, Inverell and his occupation was a carpenter. 1953 Noel and Martha Hilda are living at 14 Herbert St, Inverell. His occupation a carpenter and hers a music teacher. www.nswbdn.com.au There is a Noel Pickering marrying Hilda Howes in Inverell in 1949. 13587/1949 i hope this helps Michelle Bateau Bay > > >> I am searching for the family of my Uncle Noel Pickering who emigrated to >> Australia, arriving in Sidney January 1st 1947 on the Largs Bay ship. He >> travelled by free passage as an ex-serviceman in the British forces WW2. >> I have been searching for this family member since 1986 and would like to >> know where he lived, whether he married and if there are descendants in >> Australia who would like to know more about their family history. I have >> traced the family line to a John who died in 1716 having married three >> times and produced sixteen children. > > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >