Dear Karen, Have you checked www.ryersonindex.org which contains 2.75 million entries, mainly death information from newspapers? You would probably need more than the initials to find him there though. She left a Will, the subject of Probate, and documents are readily available at State Records. KINGSWOOD. You will need to quote 392807 in Series 4. It could well be that A F TAYLOR was the Executor, and as such he would have made an Affidavit in this Probate Packet, which will give his full name. That will tell you who the beneficiaries of her estate were, highly probable that they would be relatives. State Records, www.records.nsw.gov.au have a copying service, or there are a couple of agents who will look and copy the file for you. If you want to know more about Probate Packets on that website look at Archives in Brief No. 84, a help sheet. Sincerely, Bill > > I am trying to trace the whereabouts of a nephew of my GG Aunt whom died > in 1952. > > On her death certificate it states: Charlotte Julia Street died 17th May > 1952 at Craigiebuin Private Hospital 60 Alice Street Lakemba. >

> Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 19:09:12 +1300 > From: "Karen & Peter" <[email protected]> > On her death certificate it states: Charlotte Julia Street > died 17th May 1952 at Craigiebuin Private Hospital 60 Alice > Street Lakemba. > > Karen > New Zealand > Hi Karen Not sure if you have seen this or not: I found it on the Trove newspaper website, The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842-1954) ) Saturday 24 May 1952 ,Page 12 (((Under Public Notices))) In the will of Charlotte Julia STREET late of Lane Cove in the State of New South Wales Widow deceased - Application will be made after 14 days from the publication hereof that probate of the last Will and Testament dated 13th November 1951 of the abovenamed deceasedFix this text may be granted to Lilian Ivy Doris Taylor the sole Executrix named in the said Will and all notices may be served at the undermentioned address. All Creditors in the Estate of the deceased are hereby required to send in particulars of their claims to tho undersigned WALTER DICKSON & CO., Proctors for the Executix 39 Martin Place, Sydney Hope it is of some help. Regards Karen (nee STREET)

Hello List, I am trying to trace the whereabouts of a nephew of my GG Aunt whom died in 1952. On her death certificate it states: Charlotte Julia Street died 17th May 1952 at Craigiebuin Private Hospital 60 Alice Street Lakemba. Her residential address was 31 Hamilton Street Lane Cove. The informant was a A. F Taylor Nephew also of 31 Hamilton Street Lane Cove. As this was 1952 I am assuming that he has passed away and family are no longer at this address (I have searched the phone book to no avail) I was wondering if anyone lives in the vicinity of this address would be able to visit and find out if they know of this family whom lived there back in 1952. My GG Aunt was only in Australia for 2yrs having travelled from British India. She was 81yrs of age when she died. This family name is not known to us so am assuming its a nephew from her late husbands side. I would be grateful if someone could help me in this as being in New Zealand I am unable to do this myself. Thanking you Karen New Zealand

----- Original Message ----- From: "Carole Douch" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 2:26 PM Subject: [ANS] surname interests Hi Carol > All in the Sydney areas > > LEER George 1880 > > Newell Robert 1880 > > Talbott Henry 1833 > > Owens James 1890's > > This is also suffering from lack of info ............. Where these years when these blokes were born or what ? And again surnames typed in all caps helps everyone . Must be a few brickwalls connected to them that would make it more interesting ? bye MargM Sydney List Admin

----- Original Message ----- From: "margaret loiterton" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 2:59 PM Subject: [ANS] Names if interest > Hi Listers hope you all had a wonderful Christmas and New Year now we > can get back to out time "detective work" > My names of interest are: > > Lewis White 1865 > Margaret Graham 1865 > Harry Barnes c1910 from NZ > Crockett c1900 > Burgess c 1900 > Hi Margaret Could pay to be a bit more specific. re Lewis WHITE & Margaret GRAHAM and 1865 was that date of birth or what ? And Henry BARNES is 1910 when he arrived here ? Were a good 75 X CROCKETTs in the NSW 1903 electoral roll and pages of BURGESSs Surnames are best typed in all caps as makes them easier to read off a computer screen More specific details would help the detectives ! Bye MargM Sydney List Admin

All in the Sydney areas LEER George 1880 Newell Robert 1880 Talbott Henry 1833 Owens James 1890's thanks Carole

Scott, It seems your MARSH brothers obtained Tickets of Leave. Have a look the NSW State Records site, on-line indexes (searchable by name). You can apply for copies on-line for a small fee. > http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/ (go to "indexes onl-line", then > "convicts index") Have you looked at Trove to see whether there are any reports of murder of William Murrah? That would at least give you a date. The NSW Police Gazettes may turn up some information re Joseph - unfortunately they are not on-line and at the moment I don't have access to them. There's only one likely death in the NSW indexes - Joseph Marsh died 1884 at Liverpool. No parents listed on index (so won't be on the certificate) and his age shown on index as 79 which doesn't quite tally with his date of birth you have, but may be just a guess on the part of the informant. Cannot see any likely marriage on NSW indexes. Very unlikely any unclaimed letters would have survived this long. Hope this helps. Alison :-) Sydney Oz ========================= mime wrote: > As I was fortunate to have so much help with Christopher Marsh, I will keep my > fingers crossed for help with his brother (my GGG grandfather) Joseph Marsh. > Joseph M was born in 1812 in Leeds, Yorkshire North (parents Joseph & Sarah). > Both brothers were convicted for the same crime in 1836 and transported to NSW > in 1837 on the John II, Joseph for 7 years, Christopher for 14. In 1849, Joseph > was sent to Darlinghurst Gaol (unfortunately the exact date is unknown, but > would have been very useful) for the murder of William Murrah and eventually > sentenced to 10 years labour, the first 2 to be served in leg irons. > > > >

Hi Listers hope you all had a wonderful Christmas and New Year now we can get back to out time "detective work" My names of interest are: Lewis White 1865 Margaret Graham 1865 Harry Barnes c1910 from NZ Crockett c1900 Burgess c 1900 Margaret Loiterton

----- Original Message ----- From: "mime" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 1:07 PM Subject: [ANS] Christopher Marsh Hello, I am hoping someone can help provide information or guidance with my search on Christopher Marsh. An obituary in the Sydney Morning Herald 23 Nov 1867 reads "On the 11th instance, at his residence, Camperdown Road, Mr Christopher Marsh, late of Rose Bay, after a long and painful illness, leaving an affectionate wife to mourn her irreparable loss. His end was peace. Yorkshire and Leeds papers please copy" . This is the first reference to Christopher being married and am wondering if Ellen might be the wife of my Christopher. From what I can gather, (from transport records) there weren't too many "Christopher Marsh" Hi Scott Appears he came here on the convict transport John 11 in 1837 . Normal way his name should be written is Christopher MARSH per John 11. Back then the ships name was part of a convicts identity. No one has claimed him in http://www.claimaconvict.net/index.html He didnt leave a will. Bye MargM Sydney List Admin

 As I was fortunate to have so much help with Christopher Marsh, I will keep my fingers crossed for help with his brother (my GGG grandfather) Joseph Marsh.  Joseph M was born in 1812 in Leeds, Yorkshire North (parents Joseph & Sarah).  Both brothers were convicted for the same crime in 1836 and transported to NSW in 1837 on the John II, Joseph for 7 years, Christopher for 14.  In 1849, Joseph was sent to Darlinghurst Gaol (unfortunately the exact date is unknown, but would have been very useful) for the murder of William Murrah and eventually sentenced to 10 years labour, the first 2 to be served in leg irons.  I am hoping someone might be able to find when Joseph died and if he had ever remarried.  Any help would be greatly appreciated. Secondly, while researching the Marsh's on the Trove National Library site (fantastic by the way :-) ),  I came across reference to "unclaimed letters".  Letters that were not delivered to employees of the Hudson Bay Company in the 1800's were returned to England and have been kept there these many years unopened.  Only recently have a number of these letters been published - a most interesting find.  I am wondering if these "unclaimed letters" in NSW might also have been preserved. Thank you again for all your help, Scott B Canada

This could be the marriage registration for Ellen Marsh 118/1869 SELL JOHN MARSH ELLEN SYDNEY Regards Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyn Mealey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [ANS] Christopher Marsh > Hi Scott > > On NSW BDM index www.bdm.nsw.gov.au , there is no record of a marriage for > John Small in 1870. However there is a record of a marriage for > Christopher > Marsh to Ellen Almond in Sydney in 1862 > 873/1862 MARSH CHRISTOPHER ALMOND ELLEN SYDNEY > > > > Then there is a record of his death in 1867 > 2377/1867 MARSH CHRISTOPHER AGE 53 YEARS DIED NEWTOWN NEWTOWN > >>From the death certificate (or a transcription which is cheaper) you >>should > get details as to whether his wife was Ellen, but it looks likely. > > Good luck > Lyn > Sydney > > > I am hoping someone can help provide information or guidance with my > search > on > Christopher Marsh. An obituary in the Sydney Morning Herald 23 Nov 1867 > reads > "On the 11th instance, at his residence, Camperdown Road, Mr Christopher > Marsh, > late of Rose Bay, after a long and painful illness, leaving an > affectionate > wife > to mourn her irreparable loss. His end was peace. Yorkshire and Leeds > papers > please copy" . > A similar announcement with burial information appears in the Sydney > Morning > Herald 12 Sept 1867 so am believing his death was really on the 11 of > September. > > In the Sydney Morning Herald, 6 Aug 1870, there appears a notice of > marriage > that reads "on the 29th of January 1870 at his residence, 41, Barton > Street, > South Head Road ---- Mr John Small of Ashfield, to Ellen, widow of the > late > Mr > Christopher Marsh of Bourke-Street". > > > This is the first reference to Christopher being married and am wondering > if > Ellen might be the wife of my Christopher. From what I can gather, (from > transport records) there weren't too many "Christopher Marsh" at the time. > Would there be marriage records kept that might have any further > information? > > Thank you for any help, > Scott B > Canada > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi again Scott Meant to salso ay that marriage cert (or transcription) could give you info re birthplaces of bride and groom as well as names and occupaion of their parents. Regards Lyn Sydney This is the first reference to Christopher being married and am wondering if Ellen might be the wife of my Christopher. From what I can gather, (from transport records) there weren't too many "Christopher Marsh" at the time. Would there be marriage records kept that might have any further information? Thank you for any help, Scott B Canada

Hi Scott On NSW BDM index www.bdm.nsw.gov.au , there is no record of a marriage for John Small in 1870. However there is a record of a marriage for Christopher Marsh to Ellen Almond in Sydney in 1862 873/1862 MARSH CHRISTOPHER ALMOND ELLEN SYDNEY Then there is a record of his death in 1867 2377/1867 MARSH CHRISTOPHER AGE 53 YEARS DIED NEWTOWN NEWTOWN >From the death certificate (or a transcription which is cheaper) you should get details as to whether his wife was Ellen, but it looks likely. Good luck Lyn Sydney I am hoping someone can help provide information or guidance with my search on Christopher Marsh. An obituary in the Sydney Morning Herald 23 Nov 1867 reads "On the 11th instance, at his residence, Camperdown Road, Mr Christopher Marsh, late of Rose Bay, after a long and painful illness, leaving an affectionate wife to mourn her irreparable loss. His end was peace. Yorkshire and Leeds papers please copy" . A similar announcement with burial information appears in the Sydney Morning Herald 12 Sept 1867 so am believing his death was really on the 11 of September. In the Sydney Morning Herald, 6 Aug 1870, there appears a notice of marriage that reads "on the 29th of January 1870 at his residence, 41, Barton Street, South Head Road ---- Mr John Small of Ashfield, to Ellen, widow of the late Mr Christopher Marsh of Bourke-Street". This is the first reference to Christopher being married and am wondering if Ellen might be the wife of my Christopher. From what I can gather, (from transport records) there weren't too many "Christopher Marsh" at the time. Would there be marriage records kept that might have any further information? Thank you for any help, Scott B Canada Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Your Christopher Marsh married as shown 1862 873 1862 MARSH CHRISTOPHER M ALMOND ELLEN F SYDNEY . .· ´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´*.` Jenny McCarthy JP Brightwaters on beautiful Lake Macquarie ----- Original Message ----- From: "mime" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 1:07 PM Subject: [ANS] Christopher Marsh Hello, I am hoping someone can help provide information or guidance with my search on Christopher Marsh. An obituary in the Sydney Morning Herald 23 Nov 1867 reads "On the 11th instance, at his residence, Camperdown Road, Mr Christopher Marsh, late of Rose Bay, after a long and painful illness, leaving an affectionate wife to mourn her irreparable loss. His end was peace. Yorkshire and Leeds papers please copy" . A similar announcement with burial information appears in the Sydney Morning Herald 12 Sept 1867 so am believing his death was really on the 11 of September. In the Sydney Morning Herald, 6 Aug 1870, there appears a notice of marriage that reads "on the 29th of January 1870 at his residence, 41, Barton Street, South Head Road ---- Mr John Small of Ashfield, to Ellen, widow of the late Mr Christopher Marsh of Bourke-Street". This is the first reference to Christopher being married and am wondering if Ellen might be the wife of my Christopher. From what I can gather, (from transport records) there weren't too many "Christopher Marsh" at the time. Would there be marriage records kept that might have any further information? Thank you for any help, Scott B Canada

A big THANK YOU for all the help with Christopher M.  Looking back to the newspaper, John Small is definitely John Sell.  This has really been a great help (and now have a new BDM link that I didn't know of :-) ) With thanks, Scott B Canada

Hello, I am hoping someone can help provide information or guidance with my search on Christopher Marsh.  An obituary in the Sydney Morning Herald 23 Nov 1867 reads "On the 11th instance, at his residence, Camperdown Road, Mr Christopher Marsh, late of Rose Bay, after a long and painful illness, leaving an affectionate wife to mourn her irreparable loss.  His end was peace. Yorkshire and Leeds papers please copy" . A similar announcement with burial information appears in the Sydney Morning Herald 12 Sept 1867 so am believing his death was really on the 11 of September. In the Sydney Morning Herald, 6 Aug 1870, there appears a notice of marriage that reads "on the 29th of January 1870 at his residence, 41, Barton Street, South Head Road ---- Mr John Small of Ashfield, to Ellen, widow of the late Mr Christopher Marsh of Bourke-Street".  This is the first reference to Christopher being married and am wondering if Ellen might be the wife of my Christopher.  From what I can gather, (from transport records) there weren't too many "Christopher Marsh" at  the time.  Would there be marriage records kept that might have any further information? Thank you for any help, Scott B Canada

> Email redirected to the Sydney list > > MargM > Sydney List Admin > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rae Harvey" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, December 31, 2010 11:12 AM > Subject: Joseph EVANS and Mary Ann INNES . > Hi Rae > > I have a COE marriage record for my Joseph EVANS (Evins) from the Parish > of > St Andrews and Mary Ann INNES (Inness) from the Parish of St James. They > married on 29 Jan 1856 at the Parish of St James, Sydney, in the County of > Cumberland. That was just 4 weeks before civil registration started in NSW > How would I go about checking for further church records on these two? No > amount of effort thus far has led me to locate the birth of Mary Ann INNES > and I'm hoping other parish records for INNES may provide clues. According > to the 3 x birth certificates of her children in Bendigo VIC, she was born > in Sydney - I see they had 3 children , one died .......... Did they stay in the Ballarat area ? Cant see any death of a Mary Ann EVANS to 1901 that fits or a marriage of any Mary Ann Elizabeth in VIC records ? Where did Joseph EVANS come from ? > > > I did locate a birth record in NSW for a Mary Ann INNIS which appeared to > be > 1837 (registration V18371583 34A/1837) That looks a bit strange as was supposedly for a baptism at Carcoar . Carcoar wasnt surveyed till 1838 - other records give a birth year > of > 1835-1836. When I received this certificate it stated the birth was 27 Apr > 1849, baptism 02 May 1849 - I thought the 1837 at the end of the > registration would indicate the year of the event? I would have thought so too. Did you get copy from the BDM registry or from a transcription agent ?? Bye MargM Sydney List Admin

My apologies MargM for being a pain. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marg M Sent: Friday, 31 December 2010 11:53 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [ANS] Fw: Joseph EVANS and Mary Ann INNES Email redirected to the Sydney list MargM Sydney List Admin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rae Harvey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 31, 2010 11:12 AM Subject: Joseph EVANS and Mary Ann INNES > Hi list, > > > > I'm terribly inexperienced with NSW research and am hoping someone can > point > me in the right direction. > > > > I have a COE marriage record for my Joseph EVANS (Evins) from the Parish > of > St Andrews and Mary Ann INNES (Inness) from the Parish of St James. They > married on 29 Jan 1856 at the Parish of St James, Sydney, in the County of > Cumberland. > > > > How would I go about checking for further church records on these two? No > amount of effort thus far has led me to locate the birth of Mary Ann INNES > and I'm hoping other parish records for INNES may provide clues. According > to the 3 x birth certificates of her children in Bendigo VIC, she was born > in Sydney - she's very consistent with that information. > > > > I did locate a birth record in NSW for a Mary Ann INNIS which appeared to > be > 1837 (registration V18371583 34A/1837) - other records give a birth year > of > 1835-1836. When I received this certificate it stated the birth was 27 Apr > 1849, baptism 02 May 1849 - I thought the 1837 at the end of the > registration would indicate the year of the event? > > > > > > Thanks, Rae > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Email redirected to the Sydney list MargM Sydney List Admin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rae Harvey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 31, 2010 11:12 AM Subject: Joseph EVANS and Mary Ann INNES > Hi list, > > > > I'm terribly inexperienced with NSW research and am hoping someone can > point > me in the right direction. > > > > I have a COE marriage record for my Joseph EVANS (Evins) from the Parish > of > St Andrews and Mary Ann INNES (Inness) from the Parish of St James. They > married on 29 Jan 1856 at the Parish of St James, Sydney, in the County of > Cumberland. > > > > How would I go about checking for further church records on these two? No > amount of effort thus far has led me to locate the birth of Mary Ann INNES > and I'm hoping other parish records for INNES may provide clues. According > to the 3 x birth certificates of her children in Bendigo VIC, she was born > in Sydney - she's very consistent with that information. > > > > I did locate a birth record in NSW for a Mary Ann INNIS which appeared to > be > 1837 (registration V18371583 34A/1837) - other records give a birth year > of > 1835-1836. When I received this certificate it stated the birth was 27 Apr > 1849, baptism 02 May 1849 - I thought the 1837 at the end of the > registration would indicate the year of the event? > > > > > > Thanks, Rae > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Hi Susan and Michelle Thank you both for helping me with this lookup Karen