I think to be on the electoral roll in 1955 you had to 21. Yours Roy Hurlstone JP On 29/01/2011, at 7:00 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Query - Age - Electoral Rolls (KEMSLEY, Robert N. G.) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 18:55:04 +1100 > From: "KEMSLEY, Robert N. G." <[email protected]> > Subject: [ANS] Query - Age - Electoral Rolls > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Just a query re age required in 1955 to be on Electoral Rolls in NSW? > > Robert KEMSLEY > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the AUS-NSW-SYDNEY list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the AUS-NSW-SYDNEY mailing list, send an email to [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of AUS-NSW-SYDNEY Digest, Vol 6, Issue 24 > *********************************************

I am seeking a 1956 Marriage to find parents of the couple and wonder what info the Marriage Certificate would contain to warrant buying? Robert KEMSLEY

Just a query re age required in 1955 to be on Electoral Rolls in NSW? Robert KEMSLEY

Is any fellow lister researching the WARREN family from around the Sydney area 1940s/60s? Robert KEMSLEY

Hello where did you find the Truth newspaper site ... is it online Michelle ----- Original Message ----- From: "KEMSLEY, Robert N. G." <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 1:13 PM Subject: [ANS] NSW Divorce Index - Sincere thanks. > Over the past couple of weeks; with very much help from fellow list > members; I've been seeking to find our about a family divorce in Sydney > and > publication of the details leading up to. > > I had been seeking to find in the SMH, but the general consensus > indicated perhaps the "TRUTH" and I've just been advised that the article > I > was seeking did indeed appear in the TRUTH, 5 days after the issue of the > Decree Nisi and I am delighted to have at long last; found some closure > to. > > So to Marg and both lists members; may I congratulate & thank you all; > for a job well done, for; without your help; I would still be floundering. > > Kindest Regards; > Robert KEMSLEY > > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Over the past couple of weeks; with very much help from fellow list members; I've been seeking to find our about a family divorce in Sydney and publication of the details leading up to. I had been seeking to find in the SMH, but the general consensus indicated perhaps the "TRUTH" and I've just been advised that the article I was seeking did indeed appear in the TRUTH, 5 days after the issue of the Decree Nisi and I am delighted to have at long last; found some closure to. So to Marg and both lists members; may I congratulate & thank you all; for a job well done, for; without your help; I would still be floundering. Kindest Regards; Robert KEMSLEY

The next document would be the Decree Absolute which is a document which had to be lodged with the Court six months after the Decree Nisi and after that was made, the parties could remarry. . .· ´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´*.` Jenny McCarthy JP Brightwaters on beautiful Lake Macquarie ----- Original Message ----- From: "KEMSLEY, Robert N. G." <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 3:32 PM Subject: [ANS] Decree Nisi Query? In amongst the Divorce File of which I've a copy; is a document I took to be the "Decree Nisi" (It has "Decree Nisi" on it) which says in effect: "That if you marry again before this decree shall have been made absolute you will be guilty of bigamy"; going on to quote the Matrimonial Section and it's implications etc. When apply for the documentation; it was $15 for a copy of the file, plus an extra $46 for the "Decree Nisi" which I had believed I had a copy of, but now; I am uncertain and wonder why the "Decree Nisi" would cost an extra $46? If I've not the actual "Decree Nisi"; what would it involve or tell me that I may not already know? Would there be other paperwork involved with it? Robert KEMSLEY Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In amongst the Divorce File of which I've a copy; is a document I took to be the "Decree Nisi" (It has "Decree Nisi" on it) which says in effect: "That if you marry again before this decree shall have been made absolute you will be guilty of bigamy"; going on to quote the Matrimonial Section and it's implications etc. When apply for the documentation; it was $15 for a copy of the file, plus an extra $46 for the "Decree Nisi" which I had believed I had a copy of, but now; I am uncertain and wonder why the "Decree Nisi" would cost an extra $46? If I've not the actual "Decree Nisi"; what would it involve or tell me that I may not already know? Would there be other paperwork involved with it? Robert KEMSLEY

Good afternoon Marg; Yes; the Divorce proceedings commenced Apr 1951 and were finalised Jun 1955 and my reference to SMH after 1992 was just a passing comment. > Alan Eade found > > Colin John Willis Kemsley v Marguerita Heather Kemsley - 3 March 1955 > C J W Kemsley v M H Kemsley - 3 March 1955 > A J Kemsley v D J Kemsley - decree nisi 11 May 1955 > A J Kemsley v D J Kemsley - decree nisi 11 May 1955 Yes; the entry above is the one I was concerned with. >> "TRUTH" is still available to be searched? > > This is on micro film at the NSW State Library and probably the NLA, > Canberra too. Doubt whether in any other NSW library Many thanks; I will now follow up on. Kindest Regards; Robert KEMSLEY

Hi Everyone I'm hoping that someone out there is researching this family:- CHARLES SMITH and ELIZA GREER descendants Charles SMITH was born in Wheeo in NSW in 1850 the son of George SMITH and Elizabeth BOUGHTON Eliza GREER was born in Hobart Tasmania in 1858 the daughter of James GREER and Mary BRITCLIFFE. Eliza first married a man by the name of John GREEN in Forbes in 1875, John died not long after this and Eliza met Charles Smith with whom she had the following children:- Charles and Eliza married on the 24th of October 1891 in Orange James David B 1879 in Wellington M Francesca PAVLICEVICH in 1909 Waterloo NSW D 9TH of January 1927 C 3 Francesca. M, Letitia. A, Frederick Adelia Ellen B 1881 in Dubbo M D ? C Cecilia Bertha B 1881 in Dubbo M Herbert Adam BRINDLE D 27th October 1920 buried at Rookwood with Eliza (mother) C 1 son Arthur married Edna Ayrton in Cessnock Rose Mary B 1882 in Dubbo D 1886 in Carcoar Frederick B 1886 in Carcoar M Claire ABBERTON D 16th April 1968 Lidcombe C 2 children James Frederick and Eileen Ethel M B 1888 in Blayney (I have just ordered this certificate to see if she is Charles and Eliza's daughter) Tressie B 1892 in Orange M Arthur WILLSMORE in 1912/died 1937 and George DAVIS in 1943 D 23rd July 1979 C 1 daughter Gloria (married Eddie ??) Had three children Garnet, Kay and Gregory, one Grandchild Gary * Note On Tressies death certificate it says her daughter is from the marriage to Arthur Willsmore and Gloria is aged 52 on her mothers death certificate in 1979 so born around 1927. Don't know if she may be adopted??? Tressies Residence was at 56 Ryrie road, Earlwood in 1979. Charles B 1894 in Orange M Ethel GARVEY D 20th December 1971 C 3 Sons Billy, Cyril and Keith Eli B 1898 in Orange M Pearl (Dorothy) DESMOND D 5th January 1945 C 9 children Roy, Phyllis, Robert, Dorothy ,Allen, Peter, Keith, Barry, John Arthur B 1900 in Orange M Dorothy CANNANE + (Relationship with Amy STARR my Grandmother) D 1984 C 4 Girls with Dorothy Cannane Beryl, Bertha, Thelma and Dorothy and one girl Daphne (my mother) to relationship with Amy STARR (before Dorothy Cannane ) ?Any help much appreciated kind regards Dianna

----- Original Message ----- From: "KEMSLEY, Robert N. G." <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [ANS] [AUS-QLD] Farifax archive - divorce ? > Good afternoon Bill; > > Yes: I now understand there are 3 separate ways to search the SMH: from > memory; I think there are 2 that I can and have searched, whilst the other > I > cannot, as I don't have a subscription to. Robert That covers the later period after 1992 ? I thought this divorce was around 1955 ? Alan Eade found Colin John Willis Kemsley v Marguerita Heather Kemsley - 3 March 1955 C J W Kemsley v M H Kemsley - 3 March 1955 A J Kemsley v D J Kemsley - decree nisi 11 May 1955 No idea if any of these are pertinent You can access that via the NSW State Library using your library card which is free So dunno what the problem is > > It sounds very much as if it's the "TRUTH" that I am seeking to find > the > information from and I am not to sure how to go about or if in fact; the > "TRUTH" is still available to be searched? > This is on micro film at the NSW State Library and probably the NLA, Canberra too. Doubt whether in any other NSW library Bye MargM Sydney List Admin

Dear Robert, You can take out a 24 hour subscription to the SMH, or a lot of big libraries subscribe. The Truth would be available at the State Library in Macquarie Street SYDNEY. I doubt elsewhere. It probably isn't a high priority for scanning to the website. If you can not get to State Library, you may be able to get a reel on inter-library loan to your own local library. Ask your Librarian. Sincerely, Bill > > Yes: I now understand there are 3 separate ways to search the SMH: from > memory; I think there are 2 that I can and have searched, whilst the other > I > cannot, as I don't have a subscription to. > > Yes; I have been advised that the Court Sittings are advertised in the > SMH and a fellow lister has been good enough to assist me with, which is > great. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Robert I am sure that at the very least the NSW State Library will have the Truth newspaper, probably on microfiche. The National Library is also likely to hold it. It was sort of the Sunday equivalent of the old Daily Mirror, trashy as all get out, but nevertheless a valuable record. Leith Davis On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 12:39 PM, KEMSLEY, Robert N. G. < [email protected]> wrote: > Good afternoon Bill; > > Yes: I now understand there are 3 separate ways to search the SMH: from > memory; I think there are 2 that I can and have searched, whilst the other > I > cannot, as I don't have a subscription to. > > Yes; I have been advised that the Court Sittings are advertised in the > SMH and a fellow lister has been good enough to assist me with, which is > great. > > It sounds very much as if it's the "TRUTH" that I am seeking to find the > information from and I am not to sure how to go about or if in fact; the > "TRUTH" is still available to be searched? > > Regards; > Robert KEMSLEY > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Good afternoon Bill; Yes: I now understand there are 3 separate ways to search the SMH: from memory; I think there are 2 that I can and have searched, whilst the other I cannot, as I don't have a subscription to. Yes; I have been advised that the Court Sittings are advertised in the SMH and a fellow lister has been good enough to assist me with, which is great. It sounds very much as if it's the "TRUTH" that I am seeking to find the information from and I am not to sure how to go about or if in fact; the "TRUTH" is still available to be searched? Regards; Robert KEMSLEY

Good morning Leith: Sincere thanks for your interest in my posting, which is turning out to be quite interesting and I am learning thereby. I've since checked "Trove", but haven't found what I was seeking and so; have again approached "Ask a Librarian" with the date that the "Decree Nisi" was made. Suggesting perhaps the "Truth" Newspaper? That sounds very interesting re the Notation on the Marriage Certificate, which until now; I'd never heard of or thought of obtaining, but will now consider. Once again: Thank you very much. Robert KEMSLEY

Just tripped over http://www.wotsmygenes.com/index.asp Bye MargM List Admin

Hello Robert I found the following mentions in the SMH for 1955 - no details of the case, just the names listed for proceedings. Colin John Willis Kemsley v Marguerita Heather Kemsley - 3 March 1955 C J W Kemsley v M H Kemsley - 3 March 1955 A J Kemsley v D J Kemsley - decree nisi 11 May 1955 Regards Alan

Dear Robert, There was a message posted on the Sydney List just a couple of days ago. Change sites to SMH site for past 1954. I know that there is a list in the SMH each Court Day. You will find the page number either on the front page or page 2 where there is an index of the contents of the paper daily. At one time I think that index may have been on the back page. If I recall correctly the Truth and maybe even the Sunday Mirror, the Sunday after the Court date, or perhaps even the Sunday after would be the one to look at, however I think you may have to make a trip to State Library in Sydney. It is a possibility that a film may be available on inter-library loan to you local library. The time frame of the Divocre Index at State Records is not known to me, but if you go to www.records.nsw.gov.au there is an Archives in Brief (Help Sheet) dealing with Divorce, and that will probably have it in it. I do know that there are only papers there available to the public somewhere into the 1930's. Sincerely, Bill > Good morning Bill; > > Unfortunately; The SMH only goes up to 1954, with the year in question > 1955. > > I would imagine that the "Divorce Index" would cover 1955? but if it > does; I couldn't find the KEMSLEY Divorce I was seeking and which I know > took place in 1955. >

I also have a family divorce in 1955 - it was reported in lurid detail in the Truth - I would look there the day or so after the decree nisi, which was granted at the time of the public court proceedings. The decree absolute was an administrative thing which would receive no publicity. I have another family divorce in 1919, an old handwritten copy of the marriage certificate is inscribed vertically along one side with the information that the marriage ended in divorce, and the date of decree. Leith Davis On Thu, Jan 20, 201 1 at 11:38 AM, KEMSLEY, Robert N. G. < [email protected]> wrote: > Good morning Bill; > > Unfortunately; The SMH only goes up to 1954, with the year in question > 1955. > > I would imagine that the "Divorce Index" would cover 1955? but if it > does; I couldn't find the KEMSLEY Divorce I was seeking and which I know > took place in 1955. > > Although I think it was the SMH, I am not 100% sure, as I know at the > time; there was the Sun, Mirrow, Telegraph and perhaps the Truth, which > also > could very well have reported on the Divorce, plus I am not to sure what > date would have been reported on; having assumed it to have been the date > "Decree Nisi" made "Absolute", but I am now thinking that perhaps it was > when the "Decree Nisi" was made, which seems more appropriate? > > I contacted "Ask A Librarian" who came back with a negative response, as > I was seeking the date that the "Decree Nisi" was made > Absolute"? > > Regards; > Robert KEMSLEY > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Good morning Bill; Unfortunately; The SMH only goes up to 1954, with the year in question 1955. I would imagine that the "Divorce Index" would cover 1955? but if it does; I couldn't find the KEMSLEY Divorce I was seeking and which I know took place in 1955. Although I think it was the SMH, I am not 100% sure, as I know at the time; there was the Sun, Mirrow, Telegraph and perhaps the Truth, which also could very well have reported on the Divorce, plus I am not to sure what date would have been reported on; having assumed it to have been the date "Decree Nisi" made "Absolute", but I am now thinking that perhaps it was when the "Decree Nisi" was made, which seems more appropriate? I contacted "Ask A Librarian" who came back with a negative response, as I was seeking the date that the "Decree Nisi" was made Absolute"? Regards; Robert KEMSLEY