>>Mellie has used this for some time and I smile every time I read it.Pointing out that it is a tagline I think would spoil the intention. Just my opinion. Robin. Canada.<< Mellie IS this tagline LOL, as I am in the mood for a bit of light haearted banter, ( can you tell I am stuck with my family tree!!!!) for those of you who don't know, YES it is a tagline LOL, for reasons I have yet to discover, my tagline appears to be very very well known around rootsweb LOL a lot of people don't remember me or my queires but they remember the tagline!!! I also get lots of emails from people who tell me that they have searched many heraldry books and can find no record of ANY coat of arms having buckles on the back!!! my "coat of arms", has buckles on the back, as it is actually a straitjacket, and if you spent anytime in my personal company you would probably agree that I need one!! on sunday last (29th) i went to the local history fair, and when people asked if I was "online" and who I was, the person I was with pulled my arms crossed around my back, (almost choking me I might add!) and the enquirer instantly Said "MELLIE" they all knew the tagline LOL!!! there are some strange folk out there!!! my other reason for using this tagline, is that my own coat of arms ( BENTON) whilst having a description on the internet and in books has NO PICTURE!!! apparently the coat of arms is still in use!!!! so if anyone has any info on this feel free to step into my inbox and enlighten me!! Mellie Why does my coat of arms have buckles at the back? --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.605 / Virus Database: 385 - Release Date: 01/03/2004