I am interested in contacting and exchanging information with those connected to the following families: John ROBERTS & SarahWISE: Associated names - Stannard, Thorn, Layton, Young, Flood, Vickery, Smithers, Fielding. mainly Sydney, Norfolk Island, Liverpool area John William ROBERTS & Sarah Jane SMITH: Associated names - Mulherrin, Byrne, Treffene, Miller, Tisdale, Thomas, Morphy, Callan, Corke, Burgess, Paddison, McLeod. mainly Camden, Liverpool, Murrumburrah, Goulburn, Forbes, Barmedman area. Always hopeful - Bronwyn Townsville

Posting this on here as well in case it trips someone elses memory. Hi Peter, this is probably way off the mark, but I'm wondering if you grew up with any GILES family from the Randwick area? There were 13 children in Alfred and Mary GILES's family. Most of the boys either became bricklayers (Henry Giles, Wally Giles, Les Giles) or jockeys (Fred Giles). Interested if these names ring a bell. Alison Gregory (nee GILES)

Hi there Is anyone out there researching the John & Ann Taylor who had the following children (all births were registered in Camden NSW): James 1856 John 1857 Henry 1858 Mary 1860 Ann 1861 Stephen 1863 Fingers crossed! Regards Karen

SOrry reposting - I always forget to put my email in plain text... Hi Melissa....I did not get ur first post but saw your question on Patricia s email. I have a pre 1856 Baptism, death and Birth for NSW. These do not give as much info as later certificates. I think most of the rego numbers start with V if I am not mistaken. Marriages have names of bride and groom, date, where and minister and also witnesses. (1853) Baptism have birth date ceremony date Parish, Parents names fathers occupation and whom performed ceremony. (1834) As this is very early than 1856 it may have changed a little but I don't have one after this time. Death has name age date of death and burial occupation and residence. I my case also had ship that they came to Australia on and in what year. This was a bonus for me. (1843) Hope this helps. Cheers Hayley PERTH WA -------Original Message------- From: Patricia Hayes Date: 04/30/06 11:15:40 To: AUS-NSW-SURNAMES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Pre 1856 Certificates Hi Melissa, Regarding the N.S.W. BDM Index,If th event took place in N.S.W. Australia and you are unable to look up this free site I can help you Out here which gives a little information. If you did decide to buy The certificate I think it is cheaper for you to quote the Registration number when you order. The certificates also can be Ordered through the site below. My certificates are later then 1856 So I will let someone else answer your question. If you have anyone in N.S.W. I can look up the NSW BDM Index for you, I will need names and whatever information you have on that person. You may find registration may not be accurate if the event took place Close to the end of the year. (I'm using Google search engine:) The following information is what you see on the N.S.W. B.D.M. Index Site. NSW Births: 1788-1905 gives: Index Last Name / Child's given name /Fathers Given name /Mothers Given Name /District Of Registration) (Example) 4163/1856 SMITH George E Frederick Ann M. Sydney NSW Deaths:1788-1975: (Registration No. & Year /Last Name /GivenName / FathersGivenName /Mothers given Name /District) (Example) 4298 /1908 SMITH George E. Frederick Mary A. Bathurst NSW Marriages:1788-1955 (Index /Grooms Surname /Grooms Given name / Bridge's Surname /Brides Given Names /District 5566/1870 SMITH George E. JONES Ann M. Chatswood From Patricia On 27/04/2006, at 11:26 AM, Melissa skinner wrote: > Hello List > > I know this has been on the list before, but I cant remember the > answer, so I am hoping some one can help. > > I am considering buying birth and/or marriage pre 1856, but before > I do, what info would/could be on these certificates. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated > > Cheers > Melissa > CHAPMAN - Leicester Eng, CHILDS - Australia & Hampshire Eng, COLE > - Australia & Kent/Sussex Eng, GANNON - Australia & Ireland, > OGARTH -Australia only, HOUGAARD - Denmark, HOOK - Australia & > Kent Eng, LANGTON - Australia & Leicester Eng, SKINNER - Australia > & Kent Eng, DUNK - Australia and Eng, MONKTON/MONCKTON- Australia > & Kent Eng. > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.Com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the Last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Hello List The other day I received my 2 gt grandfather's death certificate, he died in 1911 & came from Northern Ireland. His occupation listed is: Imperial Army Pensioner, Vanman, OAP. What do these mean? My interpretation of Vanman was that he collected & emptied the Dunny Cans. Not a nice job at all. Cheers Melissa CHAPMAN - Leicester Eng, CHILDS - Australia & Hampshire Eng, COLE - Australia & Kent/Sussex Eng, GANNON - Australia & Ireland, OGARTH -Australia only, HOUGAARD - Denmark, HOOK - Australia & Kent Eng, LANGTON - Australia & Leicester Eng, SKINNER - Australia & Kent Eng, DUNK - Australia and Eng, MONKTON/MONCKTON- Australia & Kent Eng, REILLY-Antrim Nthn Ireland and Aust.

Hi Kevin Have just spent a week looking for a particular ship and got more information by just entering on Google the words .......Ship.Hibernia and let what comes up help you. There was also the ... theshipslist.com. this had an alphabetical section that you could use. Good Luck Ernie. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin & Lynne" <kevynne@xtra.co.nz> To: <AUS-NSW-SURNAMES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 5:38 PM Subject: ship photos > Does anybody know of a good web site for ship photos please. > am looking for one of the Hibernia which arived in Victoria in 1852. > Thanks, > Kevynne. > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Does anybody know of a good web site for ship photos please. am looking for one of the Hibernia which arived in Victoria in 1852. Thanks, Kevynne.

Hi Melissa, Regarding the N.S.W. BDM Index,If th event took place in N.S.W. Australia and you are unable to look up this free site I can help you out here which gives a little information. If you did decide to buy the certificate I think it is cheaper for you to quote the registration number when you order. The certificates also can be ordered through the site below. My certificates are later then 1856 so I will let someone else answer your question. If you have anyone in N.S.W. I can look up the NSW BDM Index for you, I will need names and whatever information you have on that person. You may find registration may not be accurate if the event took place close to the end of the year. (I'm using Google search engine:) The following information is what you see on the N.S.W. B.D.M. Index site. NSW Births: 1788-1905 gives: Index Last Name / Child's given name /Fathers Given name /Mothers Given Name /District of Registration) (Example) 4163/1856 SMITH George E Frederick Ann M. Sydney NSW Deaths:1788-1975: (Registration No. & Year /Last Name /GivenName / FathersGivenName /Mothers given Name /District) (Example) 4298 /1908 SMITH George E. Frederick Mary A. Bathurst NSW Marriages:1788-1955 (Index /Grooms Surname /Grooms Given name / Bridge's Surname /Brides Given Names /District 5566/1870 SMITH George E. JONES Ann M. Chatswood From Patricia On 27/04/2006, at 11:26 AM, melissa skinner wrote: > Hello List > > I know this has been on the list before, but I cant remember the > answer, so I am hoping some one can help. > > I am considering buying birth and/or marriage pre 1856, but before > I do, what info would/could be on these certificates. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated > > Cheers > Melissa > CHAPMAN - Leicester Eng, CHILDS - Australia & Hampshire Eng, COLE > - Australia & Kent/Sussex Eng, GANNON - Australia & Ireland, > OGARTH -Australia only, HOUGAARD - Denmark, HOOK - Australia & > Kent Eng, LANGTON - Australia & Leicester Eng, SKINNER - Australia > & Kent Eng, DUNK - Australia and Eng, MONKTON/MONCKTON- Australia > & Kent Eng. > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

Thanks for those who replied about my pre 1856 certificate question, I will contact my local library & family history group & see who can help Cheers Melissa CHAPMAN - Leicester Eng, CHILDS - Australia & Hampshire Eng, COLE - Australia & Kent/Sussex Eng, GANNON - Australia & Ireland, OGARTH -Australia only, HOUGAARD - Denmark, HOOK - Australia & Kent Eng, LANGTON - Australia & Leicester Eng, SKINNER - Australia & Kent Eng, DUNK - Australia and Eng, MONKTON/MONCKTON- Australia & Kent Eng.

Hi Melissa I have a 'Gannon' married to my Aunt - Emily Brouff [Brough in England] married in Warren NSW possibly in the early 1900's if this helps with your searching. I dont have any other info sorry. Beth > > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >

Hello List I know this has been on the list before, but I cant remember the answer, so I am hoping some one can help. I am considering buying birth and/or marriage pre 1856, but before I do, what info would/could be on these certificates. Any help would be greatly appreciated Cheers Melissa CHAPMAN - Leicester Eng, CHILDS - Australia & Hampshire Eng, COLE - Australia & Kent/Sussex Eng, GANNON - Australia & Ireland, OGARTH -Australia only, HOUGAARD - Denmark, HOOK - Australia & Kent Eng, LANGTON - Australia & Leicester Eng, SKINNER - Australia & Kent Eng, DUNK - Australia and Eng, MONKTON/MONCKTON- Australia & Kent Eng.

Hi Alison, I think my Great Grandfather Alexander Christie Mann had a brother John who came to Australia before he did. I have an idea they may have been up north somewhere too. Don't know much on his family though except parentage. Kerrie. -----Original Message----- From: Alison Gregory [mailto:minoan@wn.com.au] Sent: Sunday, 23 April 2006 10:54 PM To: AUS-NSW-SURNAMES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: MANN Wanting to chat with anyone who may have come across a Lilly MANN, (aka Lilian, Lillian) in their research. Born in 1889 in Lismore and died in 1950 in Sydney, probably unmarried. Parents were Catherine BOUTCHER and John MANN. I would greatly appreciate a Rookwood CD search if Lilly is listed. Kind Regards, Alison ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Wanting to chat with anyone who may have come across a Lilly MANN, (aka Lilian, Lillian) in their research. Born in 1889 in Lismore and died in 1950 in Sydney, probably unmarried. Parents were Catherine BOUTCHER and John MANN. I would greatly appreciate a Rookwood CD search if Lilly is listed. Kind Regards, Alison

Found my family. Thanks!

We had a big family reunion in September 2004. We have a huge family tree. We had it at Homebush in one of the pavilions and had a sit down lunch etc. We had people sorted into five groups. The original ancestor had five children who had descendants and they were grouped accordingly. I then ran off the ancestor chart for each of those five children and put it on their tables. I asked for any changes to be added to these pages. I use Family Tree Maker so it was easy to do. We had over 2000 people on the tree at that stage. We also had displays of photos and family memorabilia. We had one person from each of the five families give a small talk on their family and then we had a cake which was cut by the oldest person from each group. It was a wonderful success and we also launched our family history book at the same time. KAye www.bananatv.com/familytreechecklist.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynette Begg" <dandlbegg@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-SURNAMES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 8:23 AM Subject: Family Reunion experience needed

Thanks very much Jan for your report on the reunion. I've got most of those ideas in some way or another already thought of but you've added some aspects I hadn't got to in my thinking. I've particularly planned a board of unidentified photos because as you found, I thought it would be a good attention grabber, besides being needed! I had decided to have a separate section to write down your new information and any inaccuracies people found on the display so that the finished display didn't have bits written all over it. I had thought they could put an asterisk on the display to indicate something was being changed or added. Did you find people writing updated info on the actual display went OK? My family history book won't be written until after the reunion for a variety of reasons The primary one is we are raising funds to restore the family graves in the old home town of the family and we plan on a follow up event there in a year or so to unveil the restoration and plant a memorial tree and plaque in a prominent place in town in honour of the family. That will be where we launch the book as well and it should be pretty up to date after the reunion and new contacts being made to keep it up to date. That's the plan anyway! Thanks very much for your help. I really appreciate it. Lynette Lynette Begg P.O. Box 289 East Maitland NSW 2323 Australia Calling all descendants of Robert SUTHERLAND and Grace LOUTFOOT / LOUTIT (LIGHTFOOT) to attend a Sutherland Family Reunion on Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th October 2006 at St. John's Centre, Morpeth NSW Australia. http://www.geocities.com/sutherlandreunion BROBBEL One Name Study - Guild member 4139 researching all BROBBELs at any time, anywhere, any place. The Australian Museum of Clothing And Textiles Inc. http://www.geocities.com/amcat_inc -----Original Message----- From: Jan Glasby [mailto:glasbyj@tpg.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 20 April 2006 8:30 PM To: AUS-NSW-SURNAMES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Family Reunion Hints Hi Lynette, We had a Glasby family reunion in 2003 in Warwick Qld - over 400 people attended. The organisers did a fantastic job and everything went like clockwork. It was held in a local hall and lasted the whole Saturday. Everyone received a colour coded name tag to show which branch they belonged to when they signed in. We had a very long display board with a section for each child (there were 8). There was a descendant report for each branch right up to present generations - people like to find their place in the family tree - with pens for corrections, and space for people to pin up copies of their photos and articles. We had another board where people could put up their unidentified photos - this was very successful. There was also a scanner and photocopier so people could get copies of photos, certificates etc on the day and a family history book (3 volumes) produced for the occasion. Cheers Jan Qld ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Hi Jann....my reunion was for Thomson/Marshall and Durnin/Reid descendants. Still yet to have Patterson and Mayes ones. Cheers Hayley -------Original Message------- From: Jann Parkes Date: 04/20/06 13:58:21 To: AUS-NSW-SURNAMES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: Family Reunion experience needed Hayley, What family names wwere connected to your reunions? Jann -----Original Message----- From: Hayley [mailto:hales@e-wire.net.au] Sent: Thursday, 20 April 2006 9:41 AM To: AUS-NSW-SURNAMES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Family Reunion experience needed Hi Lynette. I organised 2 of my family reunions a couple of years ago. As my tree was so Large and also to not confuse people, I split mine up into 4 reunions. Mind You I have still 2 to organise. It was such a huge task for me, I actuallly Sent out invites to all living descendants that I could find. I guess only Being new to this at the time should have asked for help as you are. I had One in a hall which I displayed my tree longways so everyone could see (about 8 metres in length) (FTM). The other I pinned on a board my dad had At home and we stood it under a shelter in the park where the picnic reunion Was held. Taping the tree together took forever and I just about pulled my Hair out. I also took orders for books (FTM). Wow I didn't think sooo many People would order them. However, I did charge to cover cost of printing, Paper and postage. My biggest regret is that I did not get a list of everyone that came, and Photos were taken but now I don't know whom they are of. I met so many People that day, that I couldn't possibly remember all the names and faces And which line they came from. I also had names tags and in brackets family Name origin. I am unsure how you would remember names of people in photos That you have not met before without holding a big sign in front of them. I Guess to just write a list of photos taken at time, so when they load you Can tag them and only hope you haven't left one out. Having people write Down email and home addresses would be a good thing to have for your records I didn't have a lap top at the time but it would have made it so much easier Had I taken one. Good luck. I hope it all goes well. Hayley -------Original Message------- From: Lynette Begg Date: 04/20/06 06:21:31 To: AUS-NSW-SURNAMES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Family Reunion experience needed Hello fellow family historians, Has anyone had experience in putting on a family reunion? If so, would you Be so Kind as to advise me of what you found to work regarding displaying the Family tree In all its branches and descendants? I will have a computer there, and Photos etc, But want to display the tree on the wall for people to look at. If it helps, The Main couple had 5 surviving children. One had 1 child, another 2 children, Another 3, but the other two had 6 and 7 children. There are 1533 people recorded in This Family to date including spouses and up to 8 generations. Is it better to have the earliest generations say up to grandchildren, or Even great Grandchildren in one section with a reference then to a separate section for The next Generation and their descendants elsewhere in the building? Do photos fit Well in a Display like this? I would love to know if a particular program helps with displays other than What the Family tree program produces. Has anyone done this before and knows what Works or What doesn't work please? Any other good suggestions as to what to display or have available would be Good as Well. I've got several things planned but would appreciate suggestions in Case I've Missed something really important! Many thanks in advance. Lynette Lynette Begg P.O. Box 289 East Maitland NSW 2323 Australia Calling all descendants of Robert SUTHERLAND and Grace LOUTFOOT / LOUTIT (LIGHTFOOT) To attend a Sutherland Family Reunion on Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th October 2006 at St. John's Centre, Morpeth NSW Australia. More info? Are you related? Visit http://www.geocities.com/sutherlandreunion BROBBEL One Name Study - Guild member 4139 researching all BROBBELs at any Time, Anywhere, any place. The Australian Museum of Clothing And Textiles Inc. http://www.geocities.com/amcat_inc ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Hi Lynette, We had a Glasby family reunion in 2003 in Warwick Qld - over 400 people attended. The organisers did a fantastic job and everything went like clockwork. It was held in a local hall and lasted the whole Saturday. Everyone received a colour coded name tag to show which branch they belonged to when they signed in. We had a very long display board with a section for each child (there were 8). There was a descendant report for each branch right up to present generations - people like to find their place in the family tree - with pens for corrections, and space for people to pin up copies of their photos and articles. We had another board where people could put up their unidentified photos - this was very successful. There was also a scanner and photocopier so people could get copies of photos, certificates etc on the day and a family history book (3 volumes) produced for the occasion. Cheers Jan Qld

Dear Lynette, Organizing a Family reunion can be fun, but it can also be rather daunting. When my husband and I organised a 'Jackson' reunion in Tamworth in 1993, I asked everyone who was sent an invitation to help out in some way or another. One way was to bring duplicate photos, certificates and short stories. To help name the photos we arranged for large stick-on name tags and photographed them individually as they arrived, so when the group photo was taken, we could name them all. We displayed our Family tree memorabilia along the back of a group of long tables, which was also covered with a clear plastic, and this allowed viewing without damage. A family tree computer printout was displayed in front of the memorabilia with pens supplied to allow people to add or correct what was already there. We used a "Drop Line" Descendancy Chart (also called a wallpaper chart because of its size) to display basic information about people in the family. We also had blank forms with our name and address (very important) for people to complete and return to us once they had updated their family. Although we didn't do it, a good idea is to provide stamped addressed envelopes for the return of these forms. I know this could be expensive, however people feel more obliged to return the completed forms if they think they are beholden to you - even if it is only a postage stamp and envelope. An autograph/comment book was also on display for people to write their comments on the day's event or to write their most interesting short story. A folder of duplicate photos was also on hand where we could swap with other family members. Some of our ideas. Good luck with your reunion. Regards Yvonne PMcQ NSW Australia

Hi Lynette Somewhere (a local hotel I think!) I have seen a family tree, obviously made some years ago, which was done as a circle with the first known ancestors in the middle then the descendants working out to the edge. Think of a pizza wedge with each family getting a slice, bigger families have bigger slices. The advantage being that you can make the circle as big as you like (and keep adding to the outside). The one I have seen is only about 18 inches in diameter (the writing is small in the middle!) and some family members have been missed off but it is an interesting way of doing it. You would of course need to have several 'pizzas" to record different families, here's an idea how about making them actually edible, the catering solved at the same time as the geneaology and of course you could have great fun working out how to represent each family member...is aunty x more of an olive or an aubergine (grin) Hope your reunion goes well Jane -----Original Message----- From: Lynette Begg [mailto:dandlbegg@optusnet.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 20 April 2006 10:23 a.m. To: AUS-NSW-SURNAMES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Family Reunion experience needed Hello fellow family historians, Has anyone had experience in putting on a family reunion? If so, would you be so kind as to advise me of what you found to work regarding displaying the family tree in all its branches and descendants? I will have a computer there, and photos etc, but want to display the tree on the wall for people to look at. If it helps, the main couple had 5 surviving children. One had 1 child, another 2 children, another 3, but the other two had 6 and 7 children. There are 1533 people recorded in this family to date including spouses and up to 8 generations. Is it better to have the earliest generations say up to grandchildren, or even great grandchildren in one section with a reference then to a separate section for the next generation and their descendants elsewhere in the building? Do photos fit well in a display like this? I would love to know if a particular program helps with displays other than what the family tree program produces. Has anyone done this before and knows what works or what doesn't work please? Any other good suggestions as to what to display or have available would be good as well. I've got several things planned but would appreciate suggestions in case I've missed something really important! Many thanks in advance. Lynette Lynette Begg P.O. Box 289 East Maitland NSW 2323 Australia Calling all descendants of Robert SUTHERLAND and Grace LOUTFOOT / LOUTIT (LIGHTFOOT) to attend a Sutherland Family Reunion on Saturday 14th & Sunday 15th October 2006 at St. John's Centre, Morpeth NSW Australia. more info? Are you related? Visit http://www.geocities.com/sutherlandreunion BROBBEL One Name Study - Guild member 4139 researching all BROBBELs at any time, anywhere, any place. The Australian Museum of Clothing And Textiles Inc. http://www.geocities.com/amcat_inc ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.4/299 - Release Date: 31/03/2006 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.4/299 - Release Date: 31/03/2006