Dear List Although I have my husbands William RANDALL line back to England, I have problems with his wife Elizabeth Harrup, William Randall a convict applied to marry early 1842 Elizabeth HARRUP the application was denied as she was under age I think, (by memory) he was stated as 30 yrs she was 20 yrs permission of guardian was needed. Now, this couple applied for a permission to marry a few months later, this time he William Randall stated he was aged 40 yrs and she was Elizabeth Harrogh stated she was 30 yrs. These applications were all in the Yass and they are obviously the same couple and were allowed to marry. They Married 30 October 1842 Yass Elizabeth as Harrogh. I thought maybe he just married another Elizabeth but:: Her death 1894 states father unknown Harrup. Her sons death 1938 aged 80 years states his mothers maiden Elizabeth Harrup. I cannot find a Harrup family, a death of a Harrup, a birth of a Harrup or marriage of Harrup, this is one of our family names but Harrups don't seem to be, I would love to see another Harrup family, a bit sad but I could grab them for a while. If somebody can help I would be very pleased, I think I have covered all ground but a new direction would be greatly appreciated. Regards Rhonda Newell Wamberal N.S.W.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Newell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 4:00 AM Subject: HARRUP/GIBSON Hi Rhonda > Although I have my husbands William RANDALL line back to England, I have problems with his wife Elizabeth Harrup, William Randall a convict applied to marry early 1842 Elizabeth HARRUP the application was denied as she was under age I think, (by memory) he was stated as 30 yrs she was 20 yrs permission of >guardian was needed. Is only one ref in Convicts Permission to Marry records ?? Now, this couple applied for a permission to marry a few months later, this time he William Randall stated he was aged 40 yrs and she was Elizabeth Harrogh stated she was 30 yrs. This record states William RANDALL per Claudine(2) 42 , applied for permission to marry Elizabeth HARROUGH , 30 , CF Agnes Ewings Have you had chance to check passenger records of this ship ? Might have ref to her age ? No one has claimed William RANDALL on http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts Bye MargM Member of Central Coast FHS Gosford, NSW