In 2004 there were of posts on several genealogy sites by a JP Perry with a now-defunct "dingoblue" address. He was reseraching the Gilberts , as am I . My wife is a descendant of Emily's half brother Thomas Aron Gilbert. If JPP could contact me , or if anyone could put me in touch with him, I would be grateful. Of course if there is anyone else following up this family I would be only to happy to compare notes. Bruce

Thank you Julia, I will follow up on your suggestions Jan Jan --------------------------------- Sick of deleting your inbox? Yahoo!7 Mail has free unlimited storage. Get it now.

Hi Lorraine, Thank you for that excerpt. I am not at all familiar with the area. Cheers Jan --------------------------------- Sick of deleting your inbox? Yahoo!7 Mail has free unlimited storage. Get it now.

I have a Death Certificate for Mary WRIGHT nee BARTLEY who died at Southey Streeet, Mittagong on 15/4/1936 and according to the Certificate was buried "Fitzroy Catholic Cemetery Mittagong", 17/4/1936 Can anyone help with location on this Cemetery. Robin

Hi all Bill Bayley's book on Kiama Municipality (Blue Haven) mentions Crawley(s) Forest a few times. The most helpful for identification are pages 18, 23 and 54 "Early overland explorers worked south over the eastern end of Saddleback Range, known then as Nunima Range from Jamberoo through Crawler Forest, later Crawley Forest and Mt Pleasant in the valley at Gerringong" "Hoddle's survey work at Kiama followed on his marking out of a road from Bong Bong between where Bowral and Moss Vale later grew. This road ran along the tableland past Wingecarribee Swamp and where Robertson village later grew skirting the mountain precipices to drop down Noorinan and Nunuma Ranges to Crawley Forest and so north-eastward to Kiama harbour. The road was cut through sub-tropical jungle by six men and is marked on Mitchell's Map of Illawarra in 1834 though being only suitable for pack horses, it was little used and soon forgotten." "Meanwhile up the mountain between Mount Pleasant and Saddleback at Crawley Forest a Sunday school was established in 1859. W Dinning was secretary and a small chapel was built there, remaining into the new century". I don't know how familiar Jan and others on the list may be with the area, but there is a turn off from the highway south of Kiama "Mount Pleasant" or "Mt Pleasant". It would have been quite remote in 1857! Lorraine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Frith" <maxfrit2@yahoo.com.au> To: <aus-nsw-se@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 8:28 PM Subject: Re: [NSW-SE] PEISLEY, MARSHALL, GAY > Hello Warren, > Thanks for your interest. > "My" Elizabeth Gay, was born at Crawleys Forest, near Kiama, 1857 > according to her birth registration, and her parents were Matthew Gay, and > Margaret unknown, both born Ireland. > It seems unlikely we have a connection, but stranger things have turned > up in the past. I believe we should just keep the info in the back of our > minds. > Thank you anyway > Jan > > > --------------------------------- > Get the World's number 1 free email service. Find out more. > To post a message to the AUS-NSW-SE mailing list, send an email to > AUS-NSW-SE@rootsweb.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-SE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I noticed a Catherine CRAWLEY married Edward BRYANT on October 11 1835 listed in the Historical Records of the Illawarra Region of NSW, Australia 1770 - 1855 A Chronological Guide to Sources and Events by Michael Organ and A.P. Doyle. It is online at: http://www.michaelorgan.org.au/ilchron3.htm but I suggest getting in touch with the Local Studies library at Wollongong and they may be able to help you locate Crawley's Forest or at least where it used to be. Kind regards, Julia in Bulli

Hello Warren, Thanks for your interest. "My" Elizabeth Gay, was born at Crawleys Forest, near Kiama, 1857 according to her birth registration, and her parents were Matthew Gay, and Margaret unknown, both born Ireland. It seems unlikely we have a connection, but stranger things have turned up in the past. I believe we should just keep the info in the back of our minds. Thank you anyway Jan --------------------------------- Get the World's number 1 free email service. Find out more.

Hi Col Thanks for your interest. The "Crawleys Forest" location appears on the birth registration transcription. Perhaps it is one of those locations that has been swallowed up by progress. Jan --------------------------------- Get the World's number 1 free email service. Find out more.

Elizabeth Walker d Feb 22 1903 age 72, wife of John Walker of Makeny d. March 2 1913 age 91- daughter of Andrew Nelson of Makeny. (their daughter) Frances d Oct 4 1938 age 69 (their son) Thomas d Aug 31 1932 age 61 & his wife Jane d Oct 19 1924 age 46 Victor (son of Thomas & Jane Walker) d June 15 1922 age 8 Victor's brothers: John b. 1904 d 1974 Irvine b 1919 d. 1975 Norman b. 1908 d. 1976 Is anyone on this list interested in the above message from the Fermanagh Gold List? I know both Walker and Nelsons from the above families immigrated from Makeny to Gerringong and Kangaroo Valley. Regards, Carole (Elliott.) Researching the Moffat/Moffitt family from Makeny.

> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Is anyone researching George SOUTER, who was born in England c1809 > and died at Albion Park 31 May 1885? > He married twice, firstly to Margaret MARSALL (c1816-1871) (6 > children), and secondly in 1875 to Harriet STANGER-LEATHES (nee > VIDLER) (1819-1891). Harriet was my g2-gm, hence my interest. > I believe George farmed at Omega Retreat, probably as a tenant of > James Mackey GRAY, and was still there when Margaret died in 1871. > Any background information would be appreciated. > > John, > GEORGE SOUTER and William Bailey were witnesses at the burial in > the Gerringong Cemetery > of 8 months old Rebecca Elliott, daughter of William and Rebecca > Elliott, who died at Saddleback > on January 19th 1866. William and Rebecca lost two daughters whilst living in the Gerringong area and the three out of the four witnesses at their burials were I believed either relatives, William Bailey and Henry Lee or a friend/relative from Co. Fermanagh, William Gray. The only connection I could make with George Souter, his wife Margaret Marshall was Irish? or he was the gravedigger? After reading your message John, I am wondering.... Was my William Elliott working with George Souter in 1866 on Gray's Omega Retreat? Did the Omega Retreat extend to the Saddleback Mountain?. Your thoughts would be appreciated Regards, Carole (Elliott.) > > >

Hi Jan All I can find are Crawleys Creek at Bega Valley & Tumbarumba ?? Cheers Col ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Frith" <maxfrit2@yahoo.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-SE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 9:18 PM Subject: [NSW-SE] PEISLEY, MARSHALL, GAY > Hello List > I know there are a lot of Peisley researchers on the South Coast, I am > particularly interested in Robert Elias Obee Peisley, son of Francis James > Peisley. Robert was never along the South Coast, as far as I know, but I > feel sure someone here will have him on their tree and may have some info > about his birth. > I am also looking at the Marshall and Gay families from around Kiama, > they are in my husbands family. Alexander Marshall b 1850 Kiama married > Elizabeth Gay b 1857 Crawleys Forest (?near Kiama). > I am a bit more knowledgable about the Peisleys, my information on the > Marshall/Gay families is minimal. > Can anyone help? > Jan > Brisbane > > > --------------------------------- > Feel safe with award winning spam protection on Yahoo!7 Mail. Find out > more. > To post a message to the AUS-NSW-SE mailing list, send an email to > AUS-NSW-SE@rootsweb.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-SE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > __________ NOD32 2470 (20070819) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > >

Hi John I have a lot of research on South Coast & Tableland families. I would be happy to look at this family more closely. Do you have the arrival details of these people Please ? Cheers Col ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Graham" <johngrah@ozemail.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-SE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 2:40 PM Subject: [NSW-SE] George SOUTER (1809-1885) > > Is anyone researching George SOUTER, who was born in England c1809 > and died at Albion Park 31 May 1885? > > He married twice, firstly to Margaret MARSALL (c1816-1871) (6 > children), and secondly in 1875 to Harriet STANGER-LEATHES (nee > VIDLER) (1819-1891). Harriet was my g2-gm, hence my interest. > > I believe George farmed at Omega Retreat, probably as a tenant of > James Mackey GRAY, and was still there when Margaret died in 1871. > After his marriage in 1875, he and Harriet moved into Albion Park > township. > > Any background information would be appreciated. > > John > > To post a message to the AUS-NSW-SE mailing list, send an email to > AUS-NSW-SE@rootsweb.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-SE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > __________ NOD32 2470 (20070819) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > >

Hello List I know there are a lot of Peisley researchers on the South Coast, I am particularly interested in Robert Elias Obee Peisley, son of Francis James Peisley. Robert was never along the South Coast, as far as I know, but I feel sure someone here will have him on their tree and may have some info about his birth. I am also looking at the Marshall and Gay families from around Kiama, they are in my husbands family. Alexander Marshall b 1850 Kiama married Elizabeth Gay b 1857 Crawleys Forest (?near Kiama). I am a bit more knowledgable about the Peisleys, my information on the Marshall/Gay families is minimal. Can anyone help? Jan Brisbane --------------------------------- Feel safe with award winning spam protection on Yahoo!7 Mail. Find out more.

There was a David Souter who worked for Alexander Berry at Coolangatta in the 1820's. Wendy -----Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-se-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-se-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Graham Sent: Monday, 20 August 2007 2:41 PM To: AUS-NSW-SE@rootsweb.com Subject: [NSW-SE] George SOUTER (1809-1885) Is anyone researching George SOUTER, who was born in England c1809 and died at Albion Park 31 May 1885? He married twice, firstly to Margaret MARSALL (c1816-1871) (6 children), and secondly in 1875 to Harriet STANGER-LEATHES (nee VIDLER) (1819-1891). Harriet was my g2-gm, hence my interest. I believe George farmed at Omega Retreat, probably as a tenant of James Mackey GRAY, and was still there when Margaret died in 1871. After his marriage in 1875, he and Harriet moved into Albion Park township. Any background information would be appreciated. John To post a message to the AUS-NSW-SE mailing list, send an email to AUS-NSW-SE@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-SE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello John Re George SOUTER & Margaret MARSHALL All I have is a daughter Mary Ann SOUTER born 08 Dec 1846 Gerringong. She married Joseph John BOXSELL 19 Apr 1867 and she died 23 Feb 1891 Lismore NSW. I do not have a burial. Regards Bob Preo Bribie Island Queensland, Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Graham" <johngrah@ozemail.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-SE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 2:40 PM Subject: [NSW-SE] George SOUTER (1809-1885) > > Is anyone researching George SOUTER, who was born in England c1809 > and died at Albion Park 31 May 1885? > > He married twice, firstly to Margaret MARSALL (c1816-1871) (6 > children), and secondly in 1875 to Harriet STANGER-LEATHES (nee > VIDLER) (1819-1891). Harriet was my g2-gm, hence my interest. > > I believe George farmed at Omega Retreat, probably as a tenant of > James Mackey GRAY, and was still there when Margaret died in 1871. > After his marriage in 1875, he and Harriet moved into Albion Park > township. > > Any background information would be appreciated. > > John > > To post a message to the AUS-NSW-SE mailing list, send an email to > AUS-NSW-SE@rootsweb.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-SE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1730 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

Is anyone researching George SOUTER, who was born in England c1809 and died at Albion Park 31 May 1885? He married twice, firstly to Margaret MARSALL (c1816-1871) (6 children), and secondly in 1875 to Harriet STANGER-LEATHES (nee VIDLER) (1819-1891). Harriet was my g2-gm, hence my interest. I believe George farmed at Omega Retreat, probably as a tenant of James Mackey GRAY, and was still there when Margaret died in 1871. After his marriage in 1875, he and Harriet moved into Albion Park township. Any background information would be appreciated. John

Hi John He is not part of my family, but there was a family named Souter in Nowra in the 1960s, I went to school with their daughter. I'm going to a school reunion next month, and with any luck will see her there. Leith Davis -----Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-se-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-se-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Graham Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 2:11 PM To: AUS-NSW-SE@rootsweb.com Subject: [NSW-SE] George SOUTER (1809-1885) Is anyone researching George SOUTER, who was born in England c1809 and died at Albion Park 31 May 1885? He married twice, firstly to Margaret MARSALL (c1816-1871) (6 children), and secondly in 1875 to Harriet STANGER-LEATHES (nee VIDLER) (1819-1891). Harriet was my g2-gm, hence my interest. I believe George farmed at Omega Retreat, probably as a tenant of James Mackey GRAY, and was still there when Margaret died in 1871. After his marriage in 1875, he and Harriet moved into Albion Park township. Any background information would be appreciated. John To post a message to the AUS-NSW-SE mailing list, send an email to AUS-NSW-SE@rootsweb.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-SE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.0/961 - Release Date: 8/19/2007 7:27 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.0/961 - Release Date: 8/19/2007 7:27 AM

Hi Jan, It is interesting that you have posted about a Marshall family as I have just replied to the post from John Graham about a possible connection with my Allen family and his Marshalls. My Allens have a connection to the Harding family of Toolijooa near Gerringong, and as I understand it were at one stage at Crawley's Forest which is just to the north west of Omega Retreat which John mentioned. I have either a marriage or birth registration (can't remember off the top of my head), which mentions a Mrs Allen of Crawleys Forest area for the early 1850's. I am really interested as to who this Mrs Allen is, as I think she is connected to my Benjamin Allen. I also have a marriage certificate for possibly the same Benjamin Allen which has a witness of either Gay or Guy (difficult to read), which was in 1830 in Kent England. The Hardings came from the Edenbridge area of Kent. Hope we can work something out. Cheers, Warren Diggins ________________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE AOL Email account with 2GB of storage. Plus, share and store photos and experience exclusively recorded live music Sessions from your favourite artists. Find out more at http://info.aol.co.uk/joinnow/?ncid=548.

On the subject of Souters does anyone recognize the name Nicholas Chadwick Souter? He is one of my "assumed bodily into heaven" folks who vanished without a trace! Born 1851 at Camden then he vanishes. Clare Clare Stapleton

Hi John, I don't have any connection to George Souter, but was wondering whether Margaret Marshall had any connection to the Mary Marshall who married Samuel Allen at Camden in 1832. My Allens were in the Omega Retreat area in the 1880s, when a Mrs Lees was the witness to the birth of one of William Allen and Ann Harding's children. Also looking for information on who that Mrs Lees was. There was a Mrs Janet Gray age 60 free passenger on the Queen of England in 1859 whom I had thought was connected to the Illawarra Grays. Jane Ritchie was on the same ship, and I think they were related. Does anyone know of these two women? Cheers, Warren Diggins (Alstonville) ________________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE AOL Email account with 2GB of storage. Plus, share and store photos and experience exclusively recorded live music Sessions from your favourite artists. Find out more at http://info.aol.co.uk/joinnow/?ncid=548.