This may be of interest to people >From: "M Glenn" <mglenn@batemansbay.com> >To: "Cathy Dunn" <cathyd@shoalhaven.net.au> >Subject: Re: Aboriginal Family Names >Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 22:00:00 -0800 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 > >Dear Cathy, > >I am at present compiling Cemetery listing for the Batemans Bay, Nelligen >and Mogo >Cemeteries/ updating what the historical society had done in 1988. Also >compiling a database of deaths records with Nancy Cregan. As these families >are intwined I thought I may find more information re parents,siblings etc. >(Just for personal interest, I have a soft spot for the Koori's, the >Littlies and the Unknown). My work isn't in a very searchable state as >yet, as a lot of my data isn't keyed in (I'm a two finger typist). I would >be pleased, to help, If I can help you in any way, with burial information >of any of these families that have died in this area. The list of names I >gave you, were just from memory, of names I have come across. I am not a >genealogist, nor historian, I just love learning about our pioneers, and >their families. My special love is the Cemeteries, (I'm on first name terms >with most at Bay General). My kids laugh at me if they are conned into >helping, they reckon I spend more time talking to them than I do writing >about them. > >Regards >Marg Glenn >----------

HI All Has anyone put together a list of occupations that is available on the net. If Not Y Not Sounds like a good idea to me I have some info but this could be a common site. Regards Ken I have a list of incomplete lists. Visit My (Still under construction) Homepage at <http://www.ozemail.com.au/~ncc1701d or Email me mailto:ncc1701d@ozemail.com.au KEN JENKINS SYDNEY AUSTRALIA

With Rememberance Day next week 11 Nov 1998 Milton War memorial NSW http://www.shoalhaven.net.au/~cathyd/mwm.html List of WW1 names on Milton War memorial NSW http://www.shoalhaven.net.au/~cathyd/pioneers/warmemlist.html War records in Family History Research http://www.shoalhaven.net.au/~cathyd/war.html Cathy Dunn

Dear List Members, I am trying to help an overseas family send back to Australia, letters and photos sent to Ireland over the period 1896 to 1908 to descendants of Alfred Pinkerton, one time Mayor of Wangaratta. A daughter, Everlyn Creswick, (Cressy), married the above Andrew Carlyle Fletcher in 1914 and at the time of Alfred's death in 1922, she and Andrew were stated as resident in Eugowra. I have spent considerable time researching the Pinkerton descendants but am at a loss after 1920 for any information relating to present day descendants. It seems obvious that the descendants may have moved out of the districts where they lived in the 1920's and I ask anyone in the SE district of NSW who can shed any light on this family for their help. Regards, Jim McCloy 30 Brecht Street, Muswellbrook NSW 2333 Phone 02 6543 1905 Email jmccloy@hunterlink.net.au

I am looking for any information or family of William D ROBERTS, born Liverpool 1872 and his twin George F. ROBERTS Parents: William John ROBERTS and Sarah Jane SMITH. William married: ? Mabel DEANE in Goulburn 1904. He was living in Goulburn in 1948. Had previously lived in Forbes. Occupation unknown. George married: Louisa A BARNETT in Goulburn in 1899 Bronwyn Townsville

Hi: Seeking correspondence with Grierson researchers around the world. I will check my databases for you in exchange for information which may lead to a match. http://www.tqci.net/~dagrierson/ I look forward to hearing from you. David Alan MacGregor Grierson

Carolyn, >Can anyone help me identify a Mr Wilmott who worked for. or had dealings >with the Snowy Mountain Scheme in the 1920-1930s? >Any help greatly appreciated. I have a large family of WILLMOTTs, but don't know of any of them working on the Snowy. I am also fairly sure that it wasn't called the Snowy Scheme at that time. Have a look at the SMA website for some details, particularly http://www.snowyhydro.com.au/corpinfo/fscheme.html which suggests it actually began as the Snowy Mountains scheme in 1948. However, I am sure there would have been some sort of works being carried out down there prior to WWII, even if not under the control of the SMA. From memory, Burrunjuck Dam was built well before the war and that stores water from the Snowy Mountains. John John Graham johngrah@ozemail.com.au GENEALOGY FROM GERRINGONG http://www.ozemail.com.au/~johngrah/

Belinda, >IS ANYONE RESEARCHING THIS FAMILY. >Frederick.Hibberd born 12 Feb 1818 at Pensley.Derbyshire. >married Sarah Wardley on the 23 June 1838 at Cartmel. >they arrived in Australia 22 Nov.1856.with their children; >Frederick born 1840 marr.Clara.Ruth.Mills. >William born 1842 marr Margaret.Jones & Emily Bell >Martha born 1844 >Mary born 1846 >Joseph. John born 1847 marr. Mary Ann Condon. I have a Edwin Harry HIBBERD, b. 06AUG1871 Nelligen, d. 12OCT1936 Milton, married Hannah WILLMOTT in 1903 at Milton. This is a collateral branch of my WILLMOTT line. John John Graham johngrah@ozemail.com.au GENEALOGY FROM GERRINGONG http://www.ozemail.com.au/~johngrah/

The known historians of the DUFFELLs are always keen to make contact with people researching lesser known branches of the family tree. Please see if you know anything of the following families: Children of Thomas & Isabella DUFFELL (Married 1857 Gundagai). Isabella died in Bendoc about 1899. Tom at Ravine in 1915. William, Born 1858 Muttama, near Gundagai. Died 1859 Albury. Matilda, Born 1860 Albury, Married Angus MCMILLAN of Berridale in 1881, died in 1945. Sarah Jane, Born 1862 Lambing Flat, Young. John Charles (Jack), Born 1864 Mulloon Creek, near Braidwood. Married Harriet MCMANUS at Mitchell, Qld, in 1897 and died in the 1950s. Mary Anne, Born 1866 Duntroon near Queanbeyan. Married Thomas Henry ELLA at St. Silas' Church, Waterloo, in 1888. She died in 1899. Isabella, Born 1868 Bucky's Springs, near Bombala. Aunty Belle married William MILTON and they managed a cattle station near Darwin. Ellen (Nellie), Born 1870 Crankey's Plains, near Bombala. Married William SHAW in Kiama in 1894, died in Melbourne 1962. Rose Harriet, Born 1872 Nimity Bell, near Cooma. Became Mrs. FOSTER and had four children, a son who died in WW1 and three daughters. She may have settled in Clare, S.A. Thomas Joseph, Born 1875 Bolairo, near Cooma. Died at Kew in Melbourne in 1911. Isaac James (Jim), Born 1877 Bolairo, near Cooma. Married Nellie JESSOP in 1919 at St. James' Church, Croydon, Sydney. Died in 1951 at Newcastle. William Henry (Will), Born 1879 Bolairo. He married Ada Louisa IVILL in 1902. Their descendants are in the Delegate/Bombala district and in Victoria. Rachel Ella (Ray or Rae), Born 1881 Bolairo. She married Andrew RANKIN in Delegate in 1902 and later married Alec KELSO, a butcher in Bairnsdale. Florence, Born 1883 Back Creek, Cooma. She married Sam WILLIAMSON in Delegate in 1900. She may later have become Mrs. FISHER. Angus, Born 1886 Bendoc, Victoria. Thanks - Kevin

Greetings, Can anyone help me identify a Mr Wilmott who worked for. or had dealings with the Snowy Mountain Scheme in the 1920-1930s? Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks Carolyn North Queensland

How do I unsubscribe? I am looking in the wrong area. Billye Woodard Holder billyeholder@prodigy.net -----Original Message----- From: K & L GOODWORTH <kelm@ozemail.com.au> To: AUS-NSW-SE-L@rootsweb.com <AUS-NSW-SE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, November 01, 1998 5:44 AM Subject: Gordon >Have listed below my Gordon line. Would like to hear from others interested >in the same family. > >Regards, >Laraine Goodworth > > > 1 William Gordon b: 1831 in Whitechapel, London, England d: 1881 in >Young, NSW > +Mary Grace Carter b: 1845 in Collector, NSW > m: 18 Jun 1860 in Collector, d: 15 Jan 1918 in >Wombat, NSW, > 2 Margaret Ann Gordon b: 1862 in Binalong, NSW, > +William Carter m: 1881 in Young, NSW, > 2 Elizabeth Gordon b: 1864 in NSW > +Jonah Williams m: 1882 in Young, NSW > 3 Mary Elizabeth Williams b: 1883 in NSW, > 3 Eliza M Williams b: 1885 in NSW, > 3 Christopher W I Williams b: 1887 in NSW, > 3 Gladys E A Williams b: 1892 in NSW > 3 Beatrice S Williams b: 1895 in NSW > 3 Gertrude B Williams b: 1898 in NSW > 3 Jonah H Williams b: 1901 in NSW > 3 Clarence S Williams b: 1903 in NSW > 2 William Matt Gordon b: 11 Feb 1867 in Pipeclay, NSW d: 4 Aug 1930 >Worrigee, > +Eleanor b: 20 Nov 1873 in Worrigee, NSW m: 20 Nov 1892, >Bodgong, NSW, > d: 16 Mar 1950 in Bundanoon, NSW > 3 Ivy Isobel Gordon b: 8 Dec 1893 in Kangaroo Valley, NSW > +Robert T Rowe m: 1915 in Nowra, NSW, > 4 William R Rowe b: 1915 in Berry, NSW, > 4 Daphne Rowe > 4 Dulcie Rowe > 4 Mary Rowe > 3 Herbert John Gordon b: 26 Sep 1895 in Kangaroo Valley, d: >1901 Berry 3 James Edward Gladstone Gordon b: 8 Jun 1897 in Berry, NSW > +Marjory J Toms m: 1926 in Bombala?, NSW > 3 Eleanor Alma Gordon b: 6 Jul 1899 in Berry, NSW, > +Arthur E King m: 1919 in Berry?, NSW, > 3 Ida Mary Grace Gordon b: 23 Jun 1901 in Berry, NSW, > +Alfred L V Irvine m: 1921 in Moss Vale, NSW > 3 William Mathew Gordon b: 17 Jun 1903 in Berry, NSW > +Annie E Cullen m: 1927 in Moss Vale?, NSW > 3 Elsie May Gordon b: 23 Mar 1905 > +Clifford L Morris m: 1934 in Moss Vale?, NSW > 3 Margaret Matilda Gordon b:12 Feb 1907 in Kangaroo Valley, > d:21/12/89 > +Walter John Mansfield b: 8 May 1904, NSW > m: 8 May 1926 ,Moss Vale, NSW, d: 27 Aug 1997 NSW >3 Iris Felicia Athena Gordon b: 25 Sep 1909 in Berry, NSW, +Thomas >Joseph Condon m: 1937 in Moss Vale?, NSW, > 3 Cecilia Priscilla Gordon b: 6 Feb 1912 in Berry, NSW > +Edward A Condon m: 1936 in Nowra, d: 26 Aug 1970 > Kangaroo V, > 2 Martha Gordon b: 1870 in NSW, > 2 Bridgett Ellen Gordon b: 1872 in NSW, > 2 Susan Gordon b: 1875 in NSW > 2 James Henry A Gordon b: 1880 in NSW > +Ethel M Batkin m: 1904 in NSW > 3 Alma E G Gordon b: 1905 in NSW, > 3 Roy E Gordon b: 1907 in NSW > 3 Leonard A Gordon b: 1910 in NSW > 3 Audrey E Gordon b: 1911 in NSW, > 3 Ronald T Gordon b: 1918 in NSW > > > >==== AUS-NSW-SE Mailing List ==== >History and genealogy in South-East New South Wales, Australia >

Trying to locate family of Ernest E GEORGE, b.1884 at Moruya, NSW. Parents were Mary and Joseph. My GEORGEs were mainly in the Forbes area and then Sydney but the first names of this GEORGE are eerily similar to my family. Cheers, Max Spiller Bellingen, NSW

Hi all, Has Anyone heard of the ship WONGA WONGA OR similiar. The writing on the document is not very clear. It sailed from Victoria to NSW in 1854 regards Ken

Hello Researchers! I am currently undertaking research that concerns a Christopher Vincent, known to be at Sutton Forest in the late 1830s. Any connections or references greatly appreciated. Details as follow: Information concerning Christopher Vincent held by the Greater London Record Office was obtained via the Thomas Coram Foundation for Children, London, now built on the site of the Foundling Hospital. It reveals that Christopher Vincent was born on 6 January 1814 to Martha Lewis, aged 21 years. She came from the town of Montgomery, Wales and her parents are described as ‘poor but honest’. Martha Lewis moved to London to live with a woman she had known as a child in Wales, a Mrs. Watkins of Swallow Street. She obtained domestic work with Mrs. Marsh, 6 Polygon, Somers Town, now the London Borough of Camden. She re-established a relationship with John Price, a stonemason. Price had also moved to London from Montgomery, to live at Little Brook Street. When Martha Lewis became pregnant to Price, Mrs Marsh arranged for her to stay with an elderly woman friend. Martha Lewis last saw John Price on 20 September 1813, after which time he is thought to have ‘gone to sea’. As a single woman unable to support her child, Martha Lewis applied to the governors of the Foundling Hospital for her son to be admitted. Upon his admission, the child was given the name Christopher Vincent. He was fostered to Frances Eagle at Addlestone, Surrey where he remained until age five years. He then returned to the Foundling Hospital in Guildford Street, and stayed until he was apprenticed on 26 March 1829. The Apprentice Register notes that he was apprenticed to ‘Joseph Gurney of 56 St. James’ Street in the parish of St George Hanover Square, in the County of Middlesex, Tailor, to be instructed in household business’. His apprenticeship was shortlived. The Old Bailey Session Papers (FM4 5846, 15 April 1830 p.329) show that barely twelve months later, Christopher Vincent, at the age of 16 years ‘was indicted on 11th April, 1830 for stealing one book value 1/- and one neck stock, the goods of James Thomas Spice, to which he pleaded guilty’. The circumstances surrounding the charges are not known, however, for his crime, he was sentenced to transportation to the Colony of New South Wales for seven years. Following his conviction he was held in the London Gaol Delivery. Then on 4 September, 1830, he was confined on board the ship York, at Sheerness, at the mouth of the River Thames. The York (1) was 429 tons built at Southwick in 1819. There were 199 male prisoners and 40 guards of the 17th Regiment on board under Captain Daniel Leary and Surgeon Campbell France The voyage from London took 156 days, sailing via Teneriffe in the Canary Islands (Bateson 1959:301). The York arrived in the Colony of New South Wales on 7 February 1831. In the Convict Indents Christopher Vincent is described as aged 17 years, 4 feet 8 inches in height, black hair, hazel eyes and with a sallowed freckled complexion. The register notes he was ‘from London’, that he could read and write, and his occupation was a tailor, for one and a half years. Upon arrival in the Colony of New South Wales, Christopher Vincent was assigned to Harry Marr of Sydney. By 1837, Christopher Vincent, who was then aged 23 years, had been granted his Ticket of Leave, and was a resident of the district of Sutton Forest (NSW General Return of Convicts for 1837 - No. 26218 Ticket of Leave. p.147). Any information much appreciated. Jennifer Lambert Tracey Historical Archaeologist Cultural Heritage Research Centre UNIVERSITY OF CANBERRA Tel. / Fax (02) 6295 6795 Mobile Tel. 0419 011 860 e-mail: jtracey@ozemail.com.au

Researching Coote Chenworth/Chynworth Galbraith Loydstrom in the Araluen Majors Creek area 1860s on, Also Coote Moruya 1900s Betty at Cooma N.S.W.

Kerrie, >William Milligan Snr was born in Drumbulcan in the the parish of Nth >Derryvullan, Fermanagh This is also the home of most of the KEYS families from the South coast. Do you have any of them in William MILLIGAN's ancestry? John John Graham johngrah@ozemail.com.au GENEALOGY FROM GERRINGONG http://www.ozemail.com.au/~johngrah/

Looking for others researching BURKE or possibly BOURKE. Other names: SIMMONS Paddy & Mary Burke sailed from Ireland in 1856 with 3 children: Mary - (b 1841) -who later married John Simmons Thomas John b 1848 d 1898 I have the full line of Thomas Burke but am looking for John Burke's family now. There is some family gossip (unreliable I know) that the brothers had a falling out and one of them changed their name, either adding or omitting the 'o'. I do know that John Burke was killed in a riding accident near Walgett. Any takers ?? Samantha

Hello All Key Surnames: BREEN, DOWD Margaret BREEN (my ggg grandmother) b 1857 Wheeo NSW m Feb 1874 Yass to John Dwyer d 1927 Walgett Margaret's Grandfather - John BREEN - was a convict deported in 1836 for manslaughter and got his "ticket of leave" in 1840. His three sons were sent out to the colonies to their father. family originally from Wexford Co, Ireland The boys were Jeremiah b 1827 Michael b 1832 Dennis b 1835 If anyone knows of any connections, please contact me. Thanks Samantha

Hi All I have just joined this group and have found the discussions interesting. Thought someone might have some light to shed on my DWYER family links. The ones I know of are from Northern NSW (Walgett) but they had to come from somewhere closer to a port somewhere along the line. Key Surnames: DWYER, HALLORAN, HEFFERAN, BREEN I think I'll try to keep my queries limited to one branch at a time so following is what I have of Patrick Dwyer (Snr)'s family. ANY pointers at all would be helpful. Particularly addresses or databases that I might be able to find more info from. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------- Patrick Dwyer (Snr) born 1810 Thurles, Tipperary, Ireland married 1850 to Ellen Halloran (previously Ellen Hefferan) in Queanbeyan died 16 August 1906 Stockyard Gully, Canowindra ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------- Children of Patrick Dwyer & Ellen Halloran Daughter b 1851 John b 1853 in Queanbeyan m Margaret Breen in Yass Feb 1874 d 1935 in Walgett James b 1854 in Queanbeyan Son b 1856 in Qeanbeyan Bridget b 1857 in Queanbeyan d 1857 William b 1858 in Queanbeyan d 1859 Patrick Jnr b 1862 Yass John was my ggg grandfather.

I am a new member so Im posting my major interests in the area. I have previously done so, but had wrong address I think, so they have disappeared into the great beyond somewhere!! I also have MACHIN in family tree - though not a branch I am currently researching - which was mentioned in Terry Bryan's message today, and have contacted him directly. Nina from Townsville