PS. I wonder what connection W. L. GARRARD had with the Milton / Ulladulla >area? If one uses the search engine on the History Site of Milton Ulladulla - they would find many pages mentioning the GARRAD family one such is the Milton ulladulla Convict page http://www.shoalhaven.net.au/~cathyd/mucon.htm >From my records a possible W L Garrad WALTER HENRY GARRAD b. 1866, Wickham Hill Milton NSW, (son of ROBERT JOHN GARRAD and JANE BOOTH) m. CATHERINE MARGAN. WALTER died 1948 or 1900. Children: i Walter L GARRAD b. 1895, Randwick NSW. Cathy Dunn At 14:39 16/01/99 +1100, Jennifer Lambert Tracey wrote: >Re my posting of 15/1/1999: > >In searching through the 7 January 1911 issue of the Ulladulla and Milton >Times [NSW], I located this gem! Thought I would share it with you. > >"Mr. W. L. Garrard, of Kings School (Parramatta) who has been appointed to >the Townsville Grammar School, proposes to walk to his job. He will take the >coast track, probably striking up to Grafton from Newscastle, thence through >Lismore and on to Murwillumbah and Tweed Heads." > >I wonder did he have any idea how far Townsville was from the Queensland / >NSW border!!!! > > >Courtesy of Bronwyn Smalley of the North Queensland list, I thought you >might like to know the fate of W. L. GARRARD. > >"The History of Townsville Grammar School states that at the end of the year >(1911) "Mr W L Garrard, BA was appointed to the Staff" A Mr A Clunes Ross, >a Master from Sydney's Church of England Grammar was appointed Second Master >to the school, but the head master had found "because of a dearth of >satisfactory applicants .. impossible throughout the year to fill the senior >position." > >Only the best for Townsville Grammar .... I went to St. Patrick's! > >PS. I wonder what connection W. L. GARRARD had with the Milton / Ulladulla >area? > >Jennifer >*********************************************************************** >Jennifer Lambert Tracey BA (ANU); M App Sc (UC); >Historical Archaeologist >Cultural Heritage Research Centre >UNIVERSITY OF CANBERRA, AUSTRALIA >Tel. / Fax (02) 6295 6795 >Mobile Tel. 0419 011 860 >e-mail: jtracey@ozemail.com.au >http://www.ozemail.com.au/~jtracey/ >*********************************************************************** > > >==== AUS-NSW-SE Mailing List ==== >AUS-NSW-SE pages - http://www.zip.com.au/~viv/aus-nsw-se.htm > > >

Hello again Jan, Do you know of any connection between your PAYNEs & ours? We have Ellen PAYNE m Terence SMITH 1873 Braidwood & Alfred PAYNE m Ellen SMITH 1880 Kiama. Brother & sister married sister & brother Helen in Armidale NSW >Hi All, >Anyone out there connected with John PAYNE (1822-1909) >and his wife Francis Ann ROSS (1827-1904). They >arrived in Wollongong c. 1854 - he was a blacksmith and >lived at Tarrawanna. >Thanks, >Jan McElroy > > >==== AUS-NSW-SE Mailing List ==== >Don't forget to check the AUS-NSW-SE web pages for new updates >http://www.zip.com.au/~viv/aus-nsw-se.htm > > >

Hi All, Anyone out there connected with John PAYNE (1822-1909) and his wife Francis Ann ROSS (1827-1904). They arrived in Wollongong c. 1854 - he was a blacksmith and lived at Tarrawanna. Thanks, Jan McElroy

Hi All, Information sought on the Five Island Estate (Port Kembla) - historical background, William Wentworth, leaseholders, convicts etc. Thanks, Jan McElroy

Hi All, Information sought on the Five Island Estate (Port Kembla) - historical background, William Wentworth, leaseholders, convicts etc. Thanks, Jan McElroy

If anyone has a BROWN in their family tree who lived in the Illawarra during the above decade I would really love to hear from you. I have about 20 WWI volunteers with this surname but have only been able to positively identify about one third of them. Any reference to a BROWN may hold clues that could help. There are also two by the name of BROWNE (brothers who both died unfortunately) which I have information on if anyone wants it. Viv -- Vivienne Caldwell viv@zipworld.com.au Wollongong NSW http://www.zip.com.au/~viv AUS-NSW-SE Mailing List http://www.zip.com.au/~viv/aus-nsw-se.htm

Re my posting of 15/1/1999: In searching through the 7 January 1911 issue of the Ulladulla and Milton Times [NSW], I located this gem! Thought I would share it with you. "Mr. W. L. Garrard, of Kings School (Parramatta) who has been appointed to the Townsville Grammar School, proposes to walk to his job. He will take the coast track, probably striking up to Grafton from Newscastle, thence through Lismore and on to Murwillumbah and Tweed Heads." I wonder did he have any idea how far Townsville was from the Queensland / NSW border!!!! Courtesy of Bronwyn Smalley of the North Queensland list, I thought you might like to know the fate of W. L. GARRARD. "The History of Townsville Grammar School states that at the end of the year (1911) "Mr W L Garrard, BA was appointed to the Staff" A Mr A Clunes Ross, a Master from Sydney's Church of England Grammar was appointed Second Master to the school, but the head master had found "because of a dearth of satisfactory applicants .. impossible throughout the year to fill the senior position." Only the best for Townsville Grammar .... I went to St. Patrick's! PS. I wonder what connection W. L. GARRARD had with the Milton / Ulladulla area? Jennifer *********************************************************************** Jennifer Lambert Tracey BA (ANU); M App Sc (UC); Historical Archaeologist Cultural Heritage Research Centre UNIVERSITY OF CANBERRA, AUSTRALIA Tel. / Fax (02) 6295 6795 Mobile Tel. 0419 011 860 e-mail: jtracey@ozemail.com.au http://www.ozemail.com.au/~jtracey/ ***********************************************************************

http://www.shoal.net.au/~rflorance/ Shoalhaven Historical Society Shoalhaven Family History Group Contact details for other groups etc in the Shoalhaven Sources of local history and others Cathy Dunn History Site of Milton Ulladulla http://www.shoalhaven.net.au/~cathyd/

Francis McCaffrey Collection University of Wollongong Archives D92 The information reproduced here is for personal research only and must not be copied or published in any form. The notebooks are the property of the University of Wollongong. Spelling and grammar are as found in the original handwriting. Question marks indicate that the word was not clear - if you recognise any such words please email me. Page 20 At the Illawarra Turf Club meeting held in Wollongong in September 1866 Bylong was badly beaten in the Maiden Plate. Crabby Down won - a four year old gelding ridden by Peter Kelly. Distance 1 ½ mile. Hard Times 2nd Bylong 3rd. C? with J Bishop up won the Prince of Wales Stakes beating Flannery's 'Nonsuch'? by a length. All racing men can remember those events - the younger ones talk of J Hadden's Bachelor, George Donnelly's Rosabelle and George Hall's Hard Times - Kiama Maid - Weston's Cornstalk - all racing on the old Shellharbour Course. [Illegible sentence] Ett. De Mestre was king in those days. In the 1884 parliament Wisdom and Buchanan fought. Bill Lyne and Clarke & Grenfell hasda scrap. Jimmy Fletcher knocked out Jack Haynes. Gibbs & Lysaght got too close for comfort with each other. Lysaght sent Gibbs to the floor with a straight hit. That at once aided the dispute and order was restored. Page 21 How Richard Jones MC was also known as Merchant or China Jones who in the 30ties lived corner Pitt & Hunter Street did much for trade and agriculture. In January 1823 he was a large sheep owner for his time having a stud of 300 pure merino sheep. In 1825 Mr Jones is mentioned as an old and most enterprising emigrant and had just imported 120 saxon sheep. Mr Jones had a grant November 26, 1831 of 20,000 acres of land near Maitland. He was in 1834 intereested in Mr Riley who owned Raby and Cavan Estates near Campbelltown. In 1820 a party led by John Howe explored the Hunter Valley - on 17th March 1820 they discovered St Patrick's Plains. The party consisted of John Howe, Andrew Howe, William Dargan, Phillip Thorley and Benjamin Singleton - after whom the town of Singleton is named. A horse named Cockfighter got bogged in a creek - hence the name Cockfighter's Creek. In 1821 William Smith, first public school teacher Sydney. Major Morriset 48 the Regiment of Foot. On March 31st Allan Cunningham followed the track of Howe party. Dr McLeod of the 39th Regiment settled at the head of the Shoalhaven River - a stockade. Who was Macleay Dumaresq Belisario??? [Frank's question marks] Page 22 Early Bathurst. The first land grants given on the plains were Maurice Charles O'Connell, 73rd Regiment 1000 acres on March 22nd 1814. In 1815 William Henry Alcock, Joseph Bigg, James Chilsholme, Robert Fob, J Liddeared received grants. In 1823 Richard Mills applied for a grant of land. The first Commandant of the settlement was Lieut William Lawson - Royal Veteran Company. He was appointed August 23rd 1819 and was succeeded by Lieut Colonel Morrisset 45th Regiment. In 1825 a settlement was formed at Wellington Valley and Lieut Percy Saunders was gazetted in charge. This settlement was abolished in 1831- it is a progressive centre now 1914. In July 1829 Alex McLeay wrote Majore Mitchell with special regard to a road from Menangle to Barber's Creek & on through Argyle. Major Lockyer of the 57th Regiment foot was sent to open up a portion of this road. This road started from Campbelltown and reached Menangle - passed over the Mittagong range to the township of Bong Bong to the [illegible] or Paddy's river. Past Charles Throsby's and Charles Wright's properties where a bridge was erected in 1829. Past Dr Reid's to County of St Vincent. Page 23 William Lovegrove died at Marrickville 1906. He arrived in the Bard's Legacy - 35 tons - Captain Whitfield in 1852 at Terrara - Shoalhaven River on 1st January 1857 & he was appointed Government Residential official. The G.P.s duties had previously been carried out by Mr Meares of Kiama. Dr McKenzie and Mr Thompson were the magistrates. He married Melanie? De Mestre by whom he had 4 sons and 5 daughters. The Lovegroves of Shoalhaven. Richard Cheers had at one time the entire frontage of Hunter St Sydney. Thomas Laycock - a giant - had a large block adjoining. He was quatermaster sergeant of the NSW Corps. John Harris was surgeon's mate and subsequently became Colonial Surgeon. He who built Ultimo House. Garnham Blaxsell Rumdealer and Hospital Contractor was the other party. These four men owned the block from Bridge to Moore St and from George St to near the Governor's domain. A valuable block today 1914. Richard Cheers & Nicholas Devine came out in the Guardian - Cheers was and early butcher. Had his shop in High St - now George St. He removed to Hunter Street. The slaughter house was at or near Dawe's Point. In 1791 George Bolton -- Vivienne Caldwell viv@zipworld.com.au Wollongong NSW http://www.zip.com.au/~viv AUS-NSW-SE Mailing List http://www.zip.com.au/~viv/aus-nsw-se.htm

Sorry John, The name you mentioned was the one I was thinking of and there were two volumes. I intend to try and get them, I hope they are still available. I was told that it includes the names of the people who submitted the information. I found that the SMITHs had McGUIRE relatives out here. Thomas McGUIRE was a witness at James McGuire SMITH's marriage to Ann Maria THORN. Haven't found any more on him as yet. There semms to have been McGUIREs living in the area. So perhaps Margaret PENNY also had relatives out here. Regards Helen ``````````````````` >Helen, > >>Don't know if there is a connection. Seems possible. Did you find any >>parents names for Edward PENNY in his death record? We think that Margaret's >>father may have been William PENNY. She remarried after Jacob's death to a >>Patrick MALONEY. > >Don't have his DC, but according to the IFHG PR pre-1920, his parents were >James and Eliza. > >>Do you have access to a book called Pioneers of the Illawarra district? >You >may get a lead from that. > >If you mean the 2 volumes of Pioneer Registers published by the IFHG, yes, >they are invaluable. If there is another book, then I'm all ears <g>. > >John > >John Graham >johngrah@ozemail.com.au > >GENEALOGY FROM GERRINGONG >http://www.ozemail.com.au/~johngrah/ > > >

Hello Jan, Thanks for your information. Remote or not I want every little bit that I can find! I have most of the close line and am now working on the more distant connections. I have found that a lot of people are researching their own line but stop when they get to SMITH. I am trying to draw the various lines of this huge family together. Our Catherine SMITH was supposed to have arrived per "Thames" 1826 with her mother and sister, but I have'nt come across any mention of Wales before, interesting. Another line of research ahead of me. I wonder where that information came from? I have Celia LEHNEY m 1878 John AHERN in Sydney. Children William b1878 Percival J.b1880 Mary S.K. b 1886 m. Sydney DUNDAS James A. b1890 Myrtle I. b1892 Are the pioneers books still available to buy? If so where can I get them? Thanks again. Helen ````````````````` >Hi Helen, > >My connection to your family is extremely vague indeed! > > >If I have it correct then ....... > >- William & Mary Smith (nee McGuire) - their daughter >- Catherine Smith (c.1809-1878) married c.1727 to William Ahern > - their son >- John Ahern (1847-1925) married 1878 to Celia/Selina Leheny > /Laheney/Leahney >- Celia/Selina’s brother >- Henry (Harry) Leahney/Laheny married 1894 to Isabella Neaves > (1862-1937) - Isabella was my GG aunt > >All very remote and of probably no interest to you but I was >interested to see that you mention William and Mary’s children all >being born in Ireland - “Illawarra Pioneers pre 1920” says that >Catherine Smith was born in Monmouthshire, Wales and arrived >11/4/1826 per “Thames” - do you know if we are talking the >same Catherine Smith? > >Kind regards, >Jan McElroy, >Randwick, NSW > >

Hello Camille, Our Thomas McGUIRE was here before 1835. I found his name as a witness at James McGuire SMITH's marriage to Ann Maria THORN in St. Mary's Sydney 1835. The SMITH family seemed to have been in Fermanagh, Cavan and Aughanamullen before they came here. Will have to keep it in mind. Regards Helen `````````` >-Hello Roger and Helen I do not know if there is a connection with the >Smith and McGuire of my family to yours Camille McEwen >------------------------------------------------ >First Generation >-------------------------------------------------- >1. OWEN McCORMACK. >He married Susan SMITH. >They had the following children: > 2 i. Anne McCORMACK > > Second Generation >-------------------------------------------------- >2. Anne McCORMACK. Daughter of OWEN McCORMACK & Susan SMITH. Born 1810. Died >24 October 1864 in Churchill Ipswich Qld AUSTRALIA. Buried 26 October 1864 >in Ipswich Cemetery Qld AUSTRALIA. >Father was living in Farmanagh when Ann and family left Ireland 1853 >She married Patrick McGUIRE, son of Thomas McGUIRE & Nancy (Ann) ARMSTRONG. >Born 1810 in Farmanagh IRELAND. Christen in Farmanagh IRELAND. Died 18 >November 1875. >Assisted, Caroline 17 Nov 1853 Patrick 43, Ann43 Susan 23, Andrew 20, >Thomas17, Ann14, Rose 11 Patrick could not R/W Ann R Susan,Andrew, >Thomas,Ann could R Rose could not R/W. Patrick's Parents dead , and cousin >at Brisbane Waters > > > >

Hello! In searching through the 7 January 1911 issue of the Ulladulla and Milton Times [NSW], I located this gem! Thought I would share it with you. "Mr. W. L. Garrard, of Kings School (Parramatta) who has been appointed to the Townsville Grammar School, proposes to walk to his job. He will take the coast track, probably striking up to Grafton from Newscastle, thence through Lismore and on to Murwillumbah and Tweed Heads". I wonder did he have any idea how far Townsville, N. Qld. was from the Queensland / NSW border!!!! Just goes to show how incomprehensible some of the distances between towns in our far wide brown land must have been for some New Chums. Jennifer *********************************************************************** Jennifer Lambert Tracey BA (ANU); M App Sc (UC); Historical Archaeologist Cultural Heritage Research Centre UNIVERSITY OF CANBERRA, AUSTRALIA Tel. / Fax (02) 6295 6795 Mobile Tel. 0419 011 860 e-mail: jtracey@ozemail.com.au http://www.ozemail.com.au/~jtracey/ ***********************************************************************

In Australia looking for: AHERN, ANDREWS, BECKETT, BUCKETT, DONOVAN, DOWLING, DUGGAN, EMERSON/EVERSON, HEFFERNAN, LEDWIDGE, LEHNEY, LILLY, McCARTHY, McCOURT, McCAULIFFE, McGUIRE, MAHER, MALONEY, MELVILLE, MONCK, MOORE, O'BRIEN, PAYNE, PENNY, QUINLAN, ROWLANDS, SMITH( Illawarra & Pambula), THORN, WOODGER. ``````````````````````````` Hello Lorraine, My goodness they were a wild lot! Jacob BUCKETT went insane after he was evicted by CARRUTHERS (who apparently had quite a few problems with the locals). He died a few months later in Tarban Creek Asylum. Poor man, I always felt very sorry for him he had a dreadful life, which fell apart again when he was just getting on his feet. His son, James didn't get on with the stepfather and ran away. I must get to Kiama soon .There seems to be a lot to find out. Where would you recommend that I start? I have read the McCaffrey Papers. Are there any Personality Files? We have William SMITH Convict b c1777 Cavan,Ire. arr.1822 Isabella (2) d. 1856 Wollongong Mary SMITH nee MCGUIRE m 1802 Aughanamullen,MON. Children 1 Bridget d1870 Fairy Meadow m 1830 Ire. James McCOURT Son William b1851 Ire. d 1913 Sydney m Elizabeth GALBRAITH of Berrima Speaker NSW Legislative Assembly 2 James McGUIRE b 1808 Fermanagh Ire.d 1914 Millingandi m.1836 Ann Maria THORN ( g.dau.of 2nd Fleet convict William THORN) 17 children (give or take a few) 2.1 William = Ann DOWLING 2.2 James 2.3 John = Catherine TAYLOR 2.4 Andrew = Jane Smith WOODGER 2.5 Mary Winifred = James BUCKETT both d.Pambula 2.6 Anne = Alfred Lees SMITH? 2.7 Patrick d 1867 Jamberoo 2.8 Catherine m Jesset Smith WOODGER 2.9 Bridget 2.10 Rosanna 2.11Esther 2.12 Ellen m Alfred PAYNE d Qld. 2.13 George m Mary McCARTHY in Glen Innes 2.14 Michael m Lucilla I MELVILLE in Braidwood 2.15 Rebecca Jane m John F MONCK lived Whipstick 2.16 McGuire d 1882 Jamberoo 3 Catherine b Ire. d 1878 Wollongong m 1827 William AHERN AHERN Children Bridget, Mary, Anne, Julia, William, Catherine, Jane, Elizabeth, Ellen, Thomas, John, James, Tresa, Patrick. Spouses names Denis RYAN, James DUGGAN, Patrick HEFFERNAN, John LEDWIDGE, Honora DONOVAN, Samuel FOLEY, Henry McCOURT, Edward ROWLANDS,Celia LEHNEY, Catherine LILLY, Thomas MOORE 4 Mary d. 1877 m Thomas MAHER MAHER Children b 1839 -1859 John, Ellen, Thomas, James, Ann, Mary 5 Anne d. 1880 m 1837 Captain John ANDREWS ANDREWS Children b 1841-1862 John, Edward, Anne Marie, Elizabeth, Francis, Jane, Roger, Rachel That should take some of the SMITHs out and narrow the field slightly for others who are struggling with SMITHs. Thanks for your help. Helen in Armidale. ```````````````````` >>Hi All, >>Happy Hunting in 1999. >>I'm looking for descendants of: >>1. Jacob BUCKETT (1809- 1859) and Margaret nee PENNY. They married in 1847 >>in Wollongong and had five children, all born in Kiama. >>Mary b 1847 = 1870 Michael QUINLAN >>James b 1849 = 1874 Mary Winifred SMITH >>Sarah b 1851 = >>John b 1853 = 1883 Julia McCAULIFFE >>William J. b 1856 = Mary J. >>The BUCKETT & SMITH families moved to the South Coast, particularly >Pambula, >>in the 1879s. >>I have found a lot of the descendants of James & Ann Maria SMITH. I'm >>looking for more & particularly the descendants of female SMITH lines. >>Finding SMITHS is not easy. >>The other connected surnames that I know are AHERN & MAHER in the >>Wollongong, Kiama & Jamberoo districts. >>Helen ```````````` Lorraine wrote >>Re Bucket- I presume you know that Jacob Bucket died in Tarban Creek in >late 1859 and Margaret remarried Patrick Maloney. >From the Kiama Examiner 13th October 1860 Margaret was cautioning anyone >against harbouring her (then 11 year old) son James who had run away from >home. >Prior to Jacob's dwelling place being Tarban Creek he and Margaret had had a >few problems with the local landholder Carruthers (assault cases back and >forth and ejectment case), James Brandon who served various notices and >Allen (the Jamberoo storekeeper and his brother) for assault, this time by >the Allens and medical expenses claimed in the court of requests as >necessary from the assault. >The Buckets also had problems with the use of the English language (obscene >and insulting), in paying wages to their employees and against each other >for sureties to keep the peace (From Kiama Court records) >Also from the Examiner 15th February 1860 Mrs Bucket is selling cows and >farm items, presumeably to join Patrick Maloney. >>A Thomas Maher appears in the court records in 1858 having problems with >his employer James Harvison and a Philip Maher for drunkeness and assaulting >police in the execution of their duty. >Robert Ahern was arrested on warrant in 1857 for absconding from the service >of James McIllwraith. >As you say there are several Smith families in the Jamberoo, Kiama area and >it is almost impossible to divide them into family groups. > >Lorraine Neate

Hi to all on the list, I thought some of you may be interested in this list of convicts who were to be transported from Sydney to Port Macquarie and Moreton Bay on December 26, 1832. I came across this during the course of my research and I have included the Colonial Secretary's letter accompanying the list. I don't have any further information on the convicts mentioned but this should be available at the State Archives Office in Sydney. Colonial Secretary's Office, Sydney, 26 December 1832. Sir In transmitting to you the accompanying list of thirty one Prisoners/Specials and others under order of removal to Port Macquarie. I am directed to request that they may be immediately embarked onboard the Isabella, and that in like manner, the fifteen male and two female prisoners whose names are also annexed, may be shipped from the Hulk and the Goal on board the same vessel for conveyance under sentence to Moreton Bay. You will be pleased to take care that the men are properly ironed and that all are carefully searched. Signed Alex McLeay. Denis KELLY Lady Castlereagh. John WILSON John Hugh MULVEY City of Edinburgh John BRADY ditto John (looks like) CAMPICE Andromeda James SMITH Lady Harewood George SMITH ditto Charles RILEY ditto Charles KEMP ditto John T. MORGAN ditto Francis ANDERSON Albion James LEWIN Clyde William COGAN Eliza John WILSON ditto ? WILLIAMS (ship's name is illigible) William JOHNSTON ditto Edward FLAHERTY Dunvegan Castle John McDERMOTT (alias Dr. Burke) ditto. (name crossed off list and noted "not to be sent." C.J. HEMINGTON Adrian Henry THOMPSON Amelia (was this a convict ship?) A.T. SIMPSON ditto Thomas GASCOYNE ditto. William GOODWIN Planter William BROWN Parmelia Robert WHYSHALL ditto Thomas HARRIS ditto Patrick HORAN Dunvegan Castle Thomas ? (name is illigible) Mermaid Moses LONG Phoenix Richard JONES Mermaid George PARNELL St. Vincent. (A Moreton Bay runaway). FOR MORETON BAY William Beeford (hard to read) Shipley Matthew JACKSON Claudine John CORBET Asia William SMITH or LINETH (hard to read) York. Alex STEENSON (hard to read) Castle Forbes. William HARRISON (Ship's name illigible). William MOORE ? Huntley Edward PICKING Candry Henry BYRNE Prince Regent Joseph JONES ? Castlereagh Runaway brought up in the office?? Cath HYAM Brothers Hannah LOUDY Burrell RUNAWAYS FROM MORETON BAY. William HALL (Ship's name illigible). John ELLIS Cambridge John ATKINS Dick Edward WILLIAMS Hebe William PLATT St. Vincent. Terri BRYAN bryan@nor.com.au Yamba NSW Australia Researching: Bryan, Curry/Currie, Davis, Lucas, McDermott/McDiarmid, McPherson, Machin, Norman, O'Neil, Pickford, Pomeroy, Ruthven, Ryan, Soldi, Stokes,Taylor, Valbusa, Vinco.

G'day Lorraine, I have found a paragraph that mentions Matron Aitken bringing in a new era of hospital management to the Queanbeyan Hospital in 1897. If this is useful for you I can copy the couple of pages regarding the hospital and post. Ray Hannah Perth Western AUS hannahrl@eon.net.au ICQ No: 16340676 -----Original Message----- Date: Thursday, January 14, 1999 6:11 AM > >-----Original Message----- >From: Vivienne Caldwell <viv@zip.com.au> >To: AUS-NSW-SE-L@rootsweb.com <AUS-NSW-SE-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Wednesday, 13 January 1999 20:42 >Subject: AITKEN of Albion Park or Shellharbour >>Does anyone know a family or individuals by the name of AITKEN who would >>have been living near, or associated with Albion Park or Shellharbour >>during World War I? I have the following: >> >>A AITKEN on memorial at Albion Park >>F W AITKEN on memorial at Shellharbour >>J L AITKEN on memorial at Albion Park >> >> >>J L AITKEN may be James Liddell Aitken who was living at Mount Kembla >>when he enlisted and had an uncle, W Aitken. >>James Liddell Aitken is buried in the Church of England Cemetery at Albion >Park (died 1973). I would presume this is the father of Les Aitken who lived >across the road from my family at Tullimbar until the early 1970s. Les >Aitken died in the late 1980s at Tamworth. I remember a picture on the wall >of "old Mr Aitken" in front of the pyramids (Egypt) in uniform of the >Lighthorse. >I think he was riding a camel. >Two daughters of Les still live in the area Margaret (Mrs Noel) Taylor in >Taylor Rd Albion Park or thereabouts and Jeanette Jolliffe. >I also went to school with Linda Aitken whose family lived in Flinders St >Albion Park and they were related. >>> >>Lorraine

-----Original Message----- From: Vivienne Caldwell <viv@zip.com.au> To: AUS-NSW-SE-L@rootsweb.com <AUS-NSW-SE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, 13 January 1999 20:42 Subject: AITKEN of Albion Park or Shellharbour >Does anyone know a family or individuals by the name of AITKEN who would >have been living near, or associated with Albion Park or Shellharbour >during World War I? I have the following: > >A AITKEN on memorial at Albion Park >F W AITKEN on memorial at Shellharbour >J L AITKEN on memorial at Albion Park > > >J L AITKEN may be James Liddell Aitken who was living at Mount Kembla >when he enlisted and had an uncle, W Aitken. >James Liddell Aitken is buried in the Church of England Cemetery at Albion Park (died 1973). I would presume this is the father of Les Aitken who lived across the road from my family at Tullimbar until the early 1970s. Les Aitken died in the late 1980s at Tamworth. I remember a picture on the wall of "old Mr Aitken" in front of the pyramids (Egypt) in uniform of the Lighthorse. I think he was riding a camel. Two daughters of Les still live in the area Margaret (Mrs Noel) Taylor in Taylor Rd Albion Park or thereabouts and Jeanette Jolliffe. I also went to school with Linda Aitken whose family lived in Flinders St Albion Park and they were related. >> >Lorraine >-- > >viv@zipworld.com.au >Wollongong NSW >http://www.zip.com.au/~viv >AUS-NSW-SE Mailing List http://www.zip.com.au/~viv/aus-nsw-se.htm > > >==== AUS-NSW-SE Mailing List ==== >AUS-NSW-SE pages - http://www.zip.com.au/~viv/aus-nsw-se.htm >

-----Original Message----- From: Roger & Helen Hanson <hrhanson@bluepin.net.au> To: AUS-NSW-SE-L@rootsweb.com <AUS-NSW-SE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, 13 January 1999 11:52 Subject: BUCKETT & SMITH > >Hi All, >Happy Hunting in 1999. >I'm looking for descendants of: >1. Jacob BUCKETT (1809- 1859) and Margaret nee PENNY. They married in 1847 >in Wollongong and had five children, all born in Kiama. >Mary b 1847 = 1870 Michael QUINLAN >James b 1849 = 1874 Mary Winifred SMITH >Sarah b 1851 = >John b 1853 = 1883 Julia McCAULIFFE >William J. b 1856 = Mary J. > >2. William and Mary SMITH nee McGUIRE >SMITH children (all born Ireland): >Bridget =( Ireland) McCOURT son William >James McGuire = 1836 Sydney, Ann Maria Thorn ....17 children >Catherine >Mary >Ann >The BUCKETT & SMITH families moved to the South Coast, particularly Pambula, >in the 1879s. >I have found a lot of the descendants of James & Ann Maria SMITH. I'm >looking for more & particularly the descendants of female SMITH lines. >Finding SMITHS is not easy. >The other connected surnames that I know are AHERN & MAHER in the >Wollongong, Kiama & Jamberoo districts. >Helen >Re Bucket- I presume you know that Jacob Bucket died in Tarban Creek in late 1859 and Margaret remarried Patrick Maloney. >From the Kiama Examiner 13th October 1860 Margaret was cautioning anyone against harbouring her (then 11 year old) son James who had run away from home. Prior to Jacob's dwelling place being Tarban Creek he and Margaret had had a few problems with the local landholder Carruthers (assault cases back and forth and ejectment case), James Brandon who served various notices and Allen (the Jamberoo storekeeper and his brother) for assault, this time by the Allens and medical expenses claimed in the court of requests as necessary from the assault. The Buckets also had problems with the use of the English language (obscene and insulting), in paying wages to their employees and against each other for sureties to keep the peace (From Kiama Court records) Also from the Examiner 15th February 1860 Mrs Bucket is selling cows and farm items, presumeably to join Patrick Maloney. >A Thomas Maher appears in the court records in 1858 having problems with his employer James Harvison and a Philip Maher for drunkeness and assaulting police in the execution of their duty. Robert Ahern was arrested on warrant in 1857 for absconding from the service of James McIllwraith. As you say there are several Smith families in the Jamberoo, Kiama area and it is almost impossible to divide them into family groups. Lorraine Neate > > >==== AUS-NSW-SE Mailing List ==== >AUS-NSW-SE pages - http://www.zip.com.au/~viv/aus-nsw-se.htm >

Viv, >F W AITKEN is listed as KIA, but searching numerous sources has not >revealed anything. The closest I have found is Frank Keith Aitkin of >the 3 Battalion. According to the list of WWI KIA from the "Daily Telegraph Mirror" of November 11th 1993, Frank K AITKENS was from Bondi (KIA August 7th, 1915). The only AITKIN listed is William, from Sydney. There is also an Alfred J ATKINS, from Murwillumbah. John John Graham johngrah@ozemail.com.au GENEALOGY FROM GERRINGONG http://www.ozemail.com.au/~johngrah/

Does anyone know a family or individuals by the name of AITKEN who would have been living near, or associated with Albion Park or Shellharbour during World War I? I have the following: A AITKEN on memorial at Albion Park F W AITKEN on memorial at Shellharbour J L AITKEN on memorial at Albion Park F W AITKEN is listed as KIA, but searching numerous sources has not revealed anything. The closest I have found is Frank Keith Aitkin of the 3 Battalion. J L AITKEN may be James Liddell Aitken who was living at Mount Kembla when he enlisted and had an uncle, W Aitken. I was hoping someone has done some research on this family that will confirm their christian names. Viv -- Vivienne Caldwell viv@zipworld.com.au Wollongong NSW http://www.zip.com.au/~viv AUS-NSW-SE Mailing List http://www.zip.com.au/~viv/aus-nsw-se.htm