I am attempting to put together the history of Murray's Flats as well as a burial register for the little church graveyard. I am looking for names in this area, events, photographs as so far I have not been able to find any old photographs. Any information would be greatly received. Cheers from Valerie in sunny Sydney. vbgarton@bigpond.com DALY/FREED/HARTIGO/McCARTHY/TROTTER - all NY City only HOWELL/MORGAN - both in NY City & Wales only.

Hi All, I need some HELP again. I am Trying to confirm a marriage between Henry Clark and Mary Scanlan in Victoria about 1900 to 1915. Scanlon Could Have 2 Spellings Scanlon and Scanlan Clark could Be Clark or Clarke The Marriage Was Most probably at Dookie. Pushing the friendship a little I would like his fathers name if possible. Help would be most appreciated. Regards I have a list of incomplete lists. Visit My Homepage at <http://www.ozemail.com.au/~ncc1701d>(Revised: 23 Jan 1999) or Email me mailto:ncc1701d@ozemail.com.au KEN JENKINS SYDNEY AUSTRALIA

Hi all, I'm new to this list and I'm not familiar with the areas of Australia so I hope this is the correct place for my search. I am searching for Dixon/Storie. Thomas Dixon was a professor at the Univeristy of Sydney. He married Jane Marie Haldway Storie. Her b/c date is 14.Jul.1857. She was from Insch/Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire, Scotland. One known child: Atholl. She married (charles?) Burns They/she came to California, USA One known child: Barrie. She married a Judge in San Diego, CA, USA I know of one brother, Dr. Charles Gordon Robertson Storie who did visit Jane in 1888 in Australia. Thank you in advance for any help with this search. Carol California, USA

Hi All, Just a note to let you know that all info on my home page has been updated. Good Hunting. I have a list of incomplete lists. Visit My Homepage at <http://www.ozemail.com.au/~ncc1701d>(Revised: 23 Jan 1999) or Email me mailto:ncc1701d@ozemail.com.au KEN JENKINS SYDNEY AUSTRALIA

At 23:15 22/01/99 +1100, Jo Douglas wrote: >Hi List, >My great grandmother, Florinda COLLINS, was apparently born 9th November, >1855 in Moss Vale, NSW. This is according to the inscription on her grave <snip> >My next thought would be to ascertain if perhaps church records exist for >this birth. Would anyone know where I could write to find out any details??? Hi Joanne, In Nick Vine Hall's book PARISH REGISTERS IN AUSTRALIA, he lists sources for PRs for Meth, Pres, Prim/Meth, S/Army, CofE, RC, Wes/Meth in Moss Vale. If you can tell me what church Florinda's likely to have been baptised in, I can send you the reference. Rgeards Pamela Pamela Dowling, an Aussie transplanted to Rotorua, NZ. Researching AUS(NSW/QLD)*IRL*ENG:*Dowling*Easton*Fitzgerald*Glanville *Glinn*Godden*Haddy*Harman*McDermott*May*Milgate*Moore*Moran *O'Dea*Owens*Paine*Palmer*Percy*Russell*Taylor*Trist*Tyler*Winton*

Hi All I'm looking for the following surnames who came from REDRUTH...ST BURYAN AREA OF CORNWELL.. PENROSE.... STEVENS / STEPHENS.... FACEY.... LANGDON.... Regards Tony Stevens welby@hinet.net.au

Hi all Joanne was searching for a birth 1855 in Moss Vale. If it was Catholic, the baptism may well be in the parish registers and not made it for filming. I would contact the church direct. Regards Liz Vincent - at Historic Picton NSW Australia lizv@fastlink.com.au ---------- > From: Jo Douglas <jdouglas@cnl.com.au> > To: AUS-NSW-SE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Moss Vale Birth - COLLINS > Date: Friday, 22 January 1999 23:15 > > Hi List, > My great grandmother, Florinda COLLINS, was apparently born 9th November, > 1855 in Moss Vale, NSW. This is according to the inscription on her grave > headstone. Florinda's parents were Ellen (nee WOODS) and Joseph COLLINS. > I have been unable to find any entry relating to her birth in the NSW BDM, > despite entries for siblings born before and after her. > My next thought would be to ascertain if perhaps church records exist for > this birth. Would anyone know where I could write to find out any details??? > > Any other ideas would be most welcome. > > I would also love to hear from anyone researching children of Joseph and > Ellen COLLINS in the Nowra area. Their children were Charles, Maryanne, > Eliza, Caroline, Harriet, Joseph, John, Ellen, George, Martha and Elizabeth. > (Births ranging from 1837 to 1859) > > Thanking You > Joanne Douglas > Benalla, Victoria > > > ==== AUS-NSW-SE Mailing List ==== > History and genealogy in South-East New South Wales, Australia >

Hello everyone, Does anyone know if a house called "Stroudville" at Fivedock still exists? Built by Alfred Daniel SAVILL. Thanks, Kathi G. gaffygang@interworx.com.au

Hello everyone, Does anyone know if a house called "Stroudville" at Fivedock still exists? Built by Alfred Daniel SAVILL. Thanks, Kathi G. gaffygang@interworx.com.au

Hi All, Any information at all sought on the Merryworth Estate, near Berrima, c. 1850’s - trying to find background material on death of a 5 y.o. child, Elizabeth Gabriel who died there of burns 23/3/1857 - her parents were Augustus William Gabriel and Elizabeth (nee Green). With thanks, Jan McElroy Randwick, NSW

Hi List, My great grandmother, Florinda COLLINS, was apparently born 9th November, 1855 in Moss Vale, NSW. This is according to the inscription on her grave headstone. Florinda's parents were Ellen (nee WOODS) and Joseph COLLINS. I have been unable to find any entry relating to her birth in the NSW BDM, despite entries for siblings born before and after her. My next thought would be to ascertain if perhaps church records exist for this birth. Would anyone know where I could write to find out any details??? Any other ideas would be most welcome. I would also love to hear from anyone researching children of Joseph and Ellen COLLINS in the Nowra area. Their children were Charles, Maryanne, Eliza, Caroline, Harriet, Joseph, John, Ellen, George, Martha and Elizabeth. (Births ranging from 1837 to 1859) Thanking You Joanne Douglas Benalla, Victoria

I have been told that one of the Gaol's governors was a Lawless/Lawliss. Can anyone tell me whether he was related to the Gunning family of the same name. My husband is descended from the convict bricklayer Francis Lawless or Lawliss who had a property near Gunning called Yellongla. Thank you, Valerie Best duey@uq.net.au

Francis McCaffrey Collection University of Wollongong Archives D92 The information reproduced here is for personal research only and must not be copied or published in any form. The notebooks are the property of the University of Wollongong. Spelling and grammar are as found in the original handwriting. Question marks or other comments within square brackets indicate that the word was not clear - if you recognise any such words please email me. Page 24 In 1791 George Bolton Henry Cane, Richard Cheers, Daniel Cubitt, William Careless, William Curtin, Thomas Fisk, John Love, John Chapman Morris, Thomas Merrick, William Skinner and James Weavers - convicts who left England in the Guardian - got their freedom. But not allowed to return to Englans. Cheers had a grant of 30 acres at Kissing Point. Weavers and Skinner 30 acres. Weavers at same place, Skinner at Parramatta. Daniel Cubitt became a constable and Gaoler. Richard Cheers a publican but went out of business prior to 1813 having sold to George Howe. Dan Cubitt then took over an hotel - The Cat and the Fiddle. Cheers and Cubitt were in the Macarthur Bligh squabble. Nicholas Devine obtained 210 acres of land on which the Newtown of today has been built. The first 120 acres was granted January 8th 1794 by Richard Gross. A second grant of 90 acres was given by John Hunter - Lieutenant Governor of N S Wales. Adjoining Page, Candello, Jenkins and Fields farms, Samuel Burt also had a farm near Devine's holdings. John Lucas - a native of Sydney - knew Devine in 1800. Remember him being beaten by bushrangers in 1822. Michael William Henry came out in 1800. Page 25 Governor Bligh - John Macarthur's memorial was signed by 83 of the principal people. 24 of these names were free from birthstains. There were 15 [illegible] in the memorial and 7 [illegible] in the address of thanks. Major Johnston did not occupy Government house, he lived all the time in his own home at Annandale. On or about May 1810 Colonel O'Connell of the 18th Regiment married Bligh's widowed daughter, Mrs Puttaird?. Six men and two women were arrested for tresspassing on the Governor's property in 1812, taking a short cut to Wolloomooloo. The men were flogged and the women fined. One of the men - William Blake was a free man of clean character. All the Governors from Phillip to Gipps occupied the house near the Quay. In Campedown cemetery rest many pioneers. The oldest reads James Bull 1815 aged 7years. John C???? who had a grant of land at Cronulla. Lieut-Colonel Sir Maurice O'Connell of His Majesty's 80th Regiment of Foot died May 1848. O'Connelltown has its name from his grant of land there. Sir James Everard Howe of Well Manor Farm Hants. Died Nov. 1853 aged 55 years. Sir Thomas Livingstone Mitchell Surveyor General of N S Wales died Oct. 5, 1855 aged 64 years. He was a Colonel. Peter Brennan born St Peters 1803 died 1873. Page 26 According to Bligh - John Macarthur's requisition was signed by 137 settlers and others, some of whom he said are of the worst class of life. The first five signatures are John McArthur, John Blaxland, James Mitchens, Simeon Lord, Gregory Blaxland. Nicholas Bayley was Secretary to the Movement. The Memorial was in Macarthur's handwriting. The first bunches of grapes from vines planted in Governor Phillip's garden were plucked on Jan. 24th 1791. The first Man of War arrived 'The Gorgon' Captain Parker Sept 21st 1791. It is said - 'the Gorgon had on board the first two unquestionable ladies that visited New South Wales. Mrs King, the wife of Lieutenant Phillip Gidley King and Mrs Parker the Captain's wife. King and his wife were en-route for Norfolk Island. King subsequently became the third Governor of N S Wales. He served a term of almost 6 years then returned to England and died in 1808. His wife got 200 pounds a year as a pension for life. Governor Bligh gave her a grant of 100 acres at St Mary's. She died in 1844. Her youngest daughter Mary had a land grant at St Mary's and married Robert Copeland Leithbridge. She was born at St Mary's. Page 27 Mrs Dundas came out in the first fleet as Jane Dundas, being about 30 years old. She went into the service of Mrs King and remained with them till she died Dec 22nd 1805 aged 47 years. Serjeant Small was quartered at Government House. His daughter, who married Francis Oakes was born there in Sept 1789. She died at Parramatta 30th January 1883 aged 94 years [illegible] Lieutenant Putland was private secretary to Governor Bligh - died in Sydney and was buried in the George St Cemetery. His bones now lie at La Perouse. Captain Walter Jeffery fought with Bligh at Camperdown and Copenhagen and was publicly thanked by Nelson on the quarter deck for bravery. The Macarthur memorial - 'Sir, the present alarming state of the colony, in which every man's property, liberty, and life is endangered, induces us most earnestly to implore you instantly to place Governor Bligh under an arrest. And to assume the command of the Colony. We pledge ourselves at a moment of less agitation, to come forward to support the measure with our fortune and our lives. We are with great respect, Sir, your most obedient Servants. To Major George Johnstone. Lieutenant Governor and Commanding N S Wales Corps." -- Vivienne Caldwell viv@zipworld.com.au Wollongong NSW http://www.zip.com.au/~viv AUS-NSW-SE Mailing List http://www.zip.com.au/~viv/aus-nsw-se.htm

I have a birth transcript for an Arthur Allen the son of George Allen and Mary Ann Hallett. He was born on 5 May 1874 at Termabong Cross Roads near Berrima. Would anyone know this place name? It may have been recorded incorrectly. I have checked historical gazetteers and early maps in the National Library but found nothing. Any help appreciated. Cora Num Canberra

Hi all Kathi G asked about an article on Hungarian research. I don't have that article but a number of societies that swap would. If you can't locate it perhaps try the following. Back in 1994, the South AustralianGenealogy & Heraldry Society published an article on Hungarian Family History Research. It was in Vol 21 No 4 published October. Its magazine is called "The South Australian Genealogist". More recently the Family History Association of Northern Qld published an article in its journal "The Researcher" December 1996 page 12. Also the Aust Inst. of Genealogical Studies in Vic in its mag. "Genealogist" had a contact address March 1996 page 215 A couple of others also had the contact address. No I don't have a good memory - the above info. was contained in my book "Where did I read that?" an index of research advice articles published in journals. Very useful! Regards Liz Vincent - at Historic Picton NSW Australia lizv@fastlink.com.au ---------- > From: Kathi Ann Gaffy <gaffygang@interworx.com.au> > To: AUS-NSW-SE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Hungarian Research > Date: Thursday, 21 January 1999 19:19 > > HELP!! > Not specifically regional!! > Am looking for a copy of an article that appeared in "Genealogist's > Magazine" (ENG), Sept, 1994 re. family history in Hungary. > If you do not have a copy of this edition, you may know a site for "Gen > Mag". > Thanks, > Kathi G. > gaffygang@interworx.com.au > > > ==== AUS-NSW-SE Mailing List ==== > AUS-NSW-SE pages - http://www.zip.com.au/~viv/aus-nsw-se.htm >

Hi all I received notification in the mail this week of a new project by the Heraldry & Genealogy Society of Canberra. It is the "Biographical Register of the ACT, Canberra & Queanbeyan & District 1820-1930. Families in that time period in an area 50ks surrounding welcome to be submitted. Contact Peter Procter Project Manager P.O. Box 3621 Weston Creek ACT 2611 Regards Liz Vincent - at Historic Picton NSW Australia lizv@fastlink.com.au

Im looking for information on Liddell Frank Liddell was mayor of Maitland and I dont know much more than that. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks. Deirdre Hay.

Christina and John Downes were married at Gunning 13 December 1866. They had about eight children, mostly daughters, registered at Yass. I believe that one of their sons was James Edward Stirling Downes who married Louisa Bridget Hawksley at Goulburn 16 December 1896. I would like to find out where Christina died and contact living descendants. Christina's sisters were Janet(Jessie) Lyell, Jane Elizabeth Frances Best. Half siblings were James Newman, Jane Rowland, Lucy Bell, Agnes Venables and Charles Newman, all originally from the Gunning area. I would be very grateful for any information. Thank you, Valerie Best duey@uq.net.au

Hi, I'm just new here, first timer. We are coming to Australia for the first time in June and I would like to trace descendants of my grandmother's eldest sisters in order to show them the family tree I have done and to meet them and fill in the missing link. This is preceded by quite an interesting story which I would like to tell. My great grandmother Catherine McMillan came from a wealthy family I believe in Ayshire. She eloped in 1855 to Tasmania with the Irish stablehand John Clair employed on her parents property and was disowned by the family. She married in 1856 and had two daughters Sarah Margaret Clair and Christina Eliza Clair. They emigrated to NZ in 1861 where there were six more children born. Then Catherine ran off with my great grandfather and had six more children, the middle of which was the child of the local town mayor. My grandmother was the youngest of the 14 children. When my grandmother was 4, Catherine left the children again, this time going to work at Larnach's Castle, Dunedin where she was a cook. During the 1870 when the two eldest girls were in their teens, the two girls returned to Australia and were believed to be living in the Sydney area. It is possible that a third daughter b 1864 also went to Australia with them. Her name was Mary Ann or Mary Hannah Clair. In 1910 a family member went to Sydney to try and find the three girls with no luck. I found a marriage in 1878 in Sydney for a Sarah Margaret Clair to a Charles James Burton with three children born in 1880s apparently or possibly to this couple, but the two female children died young. I also found a death of a Sarah Margaret Burton in 1899 in Sydney, parents John and Catherine. I have found no trace of the other two sisters. This is possibly one of the missing children, but I don't know how to find out if it was a child called Sarah Margaret Burton with the parents called John and Catherine Burton or a married woman with the parents John and Catherine Clair, as no parents surnames were given. Is there anyway of finding out before I order a certificate of death? Can anyone help. I believe she was buried at Rookwood Cemet. Sydney. AUS-NSW-SE-L-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > You have added to the subscriber list of: > > AUS-NSW-SE-L@rootsweb.com > > the following mail address: > > v-aitchison@geocities.com > > By default, copies of your own submissions will be returned. > > Welcome to the AUS-NSW-SE mailing list! You are currently subscribed in > "mail mode", which means that you will receive every posting made > to AUS-NSW-SE as a separate e-mail. The directions on how to change to > digest mode are given below. > > 1. How to unsubscribe. 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HELP!! Not specifically regional!! Am looking for a copy of an article that appeared in "Genealogist's Magazine" (ENG), Sept, 1994 re. family history in Hungary. If you do not have a copy of this edition, you may know a site for "Gen Mag". Thanks, Kathi G. gaffygang@interworx.com.au