Mel, It sounds great to me Mel. Rhonda Newell. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mel" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 5:44 PM Subject: Jury of 12 > Hello AUS-NSW-SE-L, > > Alright you lot! If you are not going to elect a foreman, and so > far you haven't, I hereby elect myself in true democratic fashion. > > Anyone want to fight over it? > > > > -- > Best regards, > Mel Grieveson, Melbourne mailto:[email protected] > > ______________________________

--=======36414C01======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-53A86C00; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Pat, A search in google and other search engines will give you heaps of sites. I didn't check any of these results myself, but there are plenty to choose from at: http://www.google.com/search?client=googlet&q=bathurst%20australia%20gold%20 mining Regards Pam At 08:04 25.06.03 +1000, Neville Collins wrote: > I have a cousin in England enquiring about Bathurst in its >goldmining days. --=======36414C01======= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg=cert; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-53A86C00 Content-Disposition: inline --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.491 / Virus Database: 290 - Release Date: 18.06.03 --=======36414C01=======--

I am currently seeking photographs of early Glenrowan (Victoria) as part of an important research project which is being undertaken to document Glenrowan's history, in particular pre-1900. I'd love to make contact with people who possess, or know of others who have, photographs of old Glenrowan which was situated along Sydney Road, about a mile west of modern Glenrowan town. Also interested in hearing from anyone with ancestors who lived in, worked in or had connections with 19th century Glenrowan. Please contact me off-list. Kind regards Simon Liddle [email protected]

----- Original Message ----- From: "Shane King" <[email protected]> To: "'Newell'" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 2:16 PM Subject: RE: A JURY OF 12 NEEDED. > I don't think he was guilty as to me it would be hard to prove considering > that they were both under the influence of alcohol and her memory doesn't > seem to be the best. I would probably have to say that due to the lack of > evidence that he would be possibly not guilty. > > Hope this helps. > > Tracie King >

I've just discovered an ancestor farming in Corowa in 1875. This is probably a long-shot but wondering if anyone can find him in a directory of the time or on a map of selectors, etc. Name: Robert LIDDLE. Thanks Simon Liddle

Hello, I have a cousin in England enquiring about Bathurst in its goldmining days. Can you tell me if there is a website with perhaps pictures which may have this information. Thanks Pat Collins Queensland.

Research: Chinese in Shoalhaven The Shoalhaven Historical Society is researching the Chinese in the Shoalhaven District. In 1852 and 1853 Alexander Berry employed Chinese labourers on his Estate at Coolangatta. Andre de Mestre employed Chinese gardeners. Market Gardens were located at Numba, Worrigee, Terara and Nowra. Ah Gow, Wilkie Chang, John Utic, William Go Sang, Sing War & Co, Ah Poo, Sam Lee & Co, Charley Ah Hoy and James Suna were all residents in the Shoalhaven at one time. Over 50 names have been found. Anyone with information/photographs regarding the Chinese in the Shoalhaven district can contact me. Any information will be appreciated. Robyn Florance President Shoalhaven Historical Society ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 5:00 AM Subject: AUS-NSW-SE-D Digest V03 #88

I nominate Mel hehahaheheah Juror 5 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mel" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 5:44 PM Subject: Jury of 12 > Hello AUS-NSW-SE-L, > > Alright you lot! If you are not going to elect a foreman, and so > far you haven't, I hereby elect myself in true democratic fashion. > > Anyone want to fight over it? > > > > -- > Best regards, > Mel Grieveson, Melbourne mailto:[email protected] > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Everyone, I joined this list a little while ago (hopefully it will cover the area I am interested in), and have just been sitting back reading the other postings until now. I thought I would now introduce myself and let everyone know who my family interests are. My name is Margaret Moon nee Thomas and I have been interested in family history for about the past five years, mainly concentrating on my husbands paternal line. As I have gone as far as I want to with this line I decided to start on my own. My Great Grandfather was George David Thomas, son of John Henry Thomas and Clara Bennett. He was born about 1874 at Bombala. In 1899, he married Harriet Sophia Jane Pearson at Bemboka. Harriet was born in 1880 at Brown Mountain, the daughter of Thomas Henry Pearson and Hannah 'Anna' Bodycotte. George and Harriett had four children, Elva Alice Elenora in 1900 at Bemboka, Edward Clarence in 1902 at Bemboka, Violet Austral in 1907 at Bemboka and Clara Mavis in 1913 at Ettrick. I would love to hear from anyone who may have a connection with my family. Kind Regards, Margaret, N.S.W., Australia.

Hello AUS-NSW-SE-L, Alright you lot! If you are not going to elect a foreman, and so far you haven't, I hereby elect myself in true democratic fashion. Anyone want to fight over it? -- Best regards, Mel Grieveson, Melbourne mailto:[email protected]

I am searching for anyone who may have death certificates on either of the above. I am trying to find the list of their children which may or may not include my gt grandmother Jane Cronean. Although this couple is said to be Irish and I have no reason to disbelieve this, Jane names them as her parents on her marriage cert to James Puckeridge in 1882. Perhaps she was adopted or perhaps there is another set of parents with the same name. I would also be interested in the funeral notices of the above or any of their children, should anyone be researching this family. thanks a lot in advance Sandra in Maryborough Qld

Will, the members of the jury, please elect a foreman, I think this election by the jurors will allow, this case to move along, much faster. Regards. Rhonda Newell

----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 11:26 PM Subject: Re: Here comes the Judge Hello Jurors: It is now time to pick a jury foreman. So, we can get organized and move forward. I am still working on the jury instructions. They will be sent out within the next few days. The Judge

Hi Listers im after any information that might help me locate john Menzies >He arrived 1862 and worked *on the land till his death 1896* in the Mudgee area.I havnt found a amrriage or death for himas yet he was said to be 18 at the time of arrival Christene

Sorry, forgot a bit. The Geographical Dictionary or Gazatteer of the Australian Colonies 1848, describes Aston as "situated in the district of Menaroo, NSW, fifty miles from Twofold Bay. The station of Tucker and Co." Pat -----Original Message----- From: KNABAT [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, 20 June 2003 2:10 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Aston a town? Has anyone heard of a town called Aston apparently near Bombala? Cheers Nardia [email protected] ______________________________

Nardia, This is probably a reference to a property situated on Aston Creek, just south of Bombala. I'm sure I saw the name "Aston" on gates when down there a while back. Some of my family, JOHN & JANE DOUCH, were amongst the first employees of Sir James Mattherson of Aston, near Bombala, where JOHN worked as a stockman in 1843. Pat

Any one on list have any interest in the above names around Cooma/Queanbeyan/Bungendore/Goulburn areas 1856 to ??? Cheers Jennifer Outgoing mail is checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com)

Hello AUS-NSW-SE-L, In reference to the case of Regina versus Randall 1879, and at Rhonda's suggestion, all jury members MUST BE SATISFIED BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT of the defendant's guilt. Randall pleaded "not guilty" which puts the onus of proof TOTALLY upon the prosecution. I have noticed with some of the verdicts, that some have pronounced him guilty whilst simultaneously expressing doubts. -- Best regards, Mel Grieveson, Melbourne mailto:[email protected]

I have just received this extra peace of information on William Randall, from another list member.I feel considering the juror's in 1879 would probabley have known William Randall. I thought it and idea that you know a little about him. A quick look at the life of William Randall. William Randall was transported to new South Wales in 1829, aged 19 years, he was a mason by trade. He had been let off in England early 1829 for stealing a handkerchief and then convicted on 13 July 1829 for stealing a pair of trousers, he was convicted and sentenced to life. William's wife Elizabeth came free, I think? Hello Rhonda, Just looking thru Randall stuff again, the sheep stealing charge against William Randall, on 25th August 1874 he was charged with sheep stealing, from Burrowa News Sat Sep 19 1874. Yass Quater Sessions John Percival and William Randall committed by the Burrowa Bench on a charge of sheep stealing were discharged at the suggestion of the crown prosecutor, and by the Judges direction. William Randall and John Percival then went ahead at the Burrowa District Court in January (From Burrowa News 16/1/1875) to sue successfully for malicious prosecution. Will send you that one at a later date. They had 6 daughters and one son, they had always lived around the Binalong area. The only child to cause any trouble was their son. In 1879 the Mr. Gibson who was a witness at the trial was William and Elizabeth Randall's Son-In-Law whom lived close by. The granddaughter age unknown however, was under the age of 10 years. Their son John Randall was a problem, at the age of 16 years: At the Circuit Court, Yass, 1872 charged with horse stealing acquitted,; at the Binalong Court, in 1878, charged with illegally using a horse, six months in Yass gaol; 24 July 1879, at the Yass Sessions, convicted of horse stealing, sentenced to 18 months, Yass gaol; in 1879 escaped from Yass gaol, and upon being re-captured in 1881 sentenced to 15 months Yass; gaol in October 1884 , charged with assault at the Yass Assises, convicted and sentenced to 18 months in Yass gaol. I won't say anymore but he was later charged with attempted Murder and sentenced to life imprisonment and many years later was released. Regards Rhonda.

I see that my fellow jury members have started posting their verdicts. I have not yet read any of them. A more detailed post will put to the list over the weekend. Briefly, I had to find the defendent not guilty, as I do not believe that the case was proven beyond reasonable doubt. As I said, I will post at length giving my reasons. Penny