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    1. shoalhaven family history soc
    2. sandra armstrong
    3. Does anyone have a current email address for the above please? The one I found on cyndislist has bounced. [email protected] thanks in advance Sandra in Maryborough Qld

    08/03/2003 07:56:29
    1. Gunning Newspapers
    2. John Waters
    3. Does anyone know of the whereabouts of copies of the Gunning Leader, published from July 22, 1876 until July 1, 1879, or the Gunning Times which was taken over by the Yass Tribune on October 2, 1888. I have tried indexes and catalogues, but they could still be hidden somewhere. The Index to Newspapers held in various repositories does not even list them. John Waters Melbourne

    08/01/2003 09:40:44
    1. Re: Wright
    2. Jan and Bob Grant
    3. Hi The Biographical Register of Canberra and Queanbeyan covers the period 1820-1930 and encompasses the area Bungendore, Captains Flat, Michelago, Tharwa, Uriarra, Hall, Gundaroo, Gunning, Collector and Tarago as well as Canberra/Queanbeyan. There are 350 pages with over 6300 entries, maps to assist the researcher in locating towns and properties and is in A4 format approx. 1 inch thick. Cheers Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "ozsun" <[email protected]> To: "Jan Grant" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 8:26 PM Subject: Re: Wright > hi > Can you tell me of this register? > What dates dows it cover? > What area does it cover? > Bungonia?Braidwood? Yass? > My families didnt arrive till 1839 but were very widely spread. > Christene > Mc Grath Ovens Kennedy McConnell Lang Ingram > Delveny Delaney > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jan Grant" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 4:46 PM > Subject: RE: Wright > > > > Hello Carole > > > > The Biographical Register of Canberra and Queanbeyan is available from The > > Heraldry & Genealogy Society of Canberra at PO Box 585 Canberra 2601 email > > [email protected] for $38.50 or $46.00 posted. If you have an early > > settler like James Wright it will certainly be worth buying as there would > > be intermarriage with other pioneer families of the district and you may > > find that you have heaps of connections listed. > > > > Cheers > > Jan > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Carole Douch [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Thursday, 31 July 2003 3:49 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Wright > > > > > > Does any one have the Book, Biographical Register of Canberra and > Queenbeyan > > 1820 etc and can do a lookup for me. > > I"m looking for James Wright of Lanyon in Canberra.1830's > > Thanking you, carole > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go > > to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

    07/31/2003 04:40:45
    1. RE: Wright
    2. Jan Grant
    3. Hello Carole The Biographical Register of Canberra and Queanbeyan is available from The Heraldry & Genealogy Society of Canberra at PO Box 585 Canberra 2601 email [email protected] for $38.50 or $46.00 posted. If you have an early settler like James Wright it will certainly be worth buying as there would be intermarriage with other pioneer families of the district and you may find that you have heaps of connections listed. Cheers Jan -----Original Message----- From: Carole Douch [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, 31 July 2003 3:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Wright Does any one have the Book, Biographical Register of Canberra and Queenbeyan 1820 etc and can do a lookup for me. I"m looking for James Wright of Lanyon in Canberra.1830's Thanking you, carole ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

    07/31/2003 10:46:47
    1. Wright
    2. Carole Douch
    3. Does any one have the Book, Biographical Register of Canberra and Queenbeyan 1820 etc and can do a lookup for me. I"m looking for James Wright of Lanyon in Canberra.1830's Thanking you, carole

    07/31/2003 09:48:53
    1. POWER
    2. Robert Bateman
    3. Looking for information on the marriage and death details of the following children is there any descendants out there I would love to hear from anybody who has any connection with these people. JOHN POWER B1844-D1898 Married 1864 MARY (ANN) POWER b1846 NSW there children: 1. JOHN THOMAS POWER b. 1865 2. JANE POWER b. 1867 3. MICHAEL WILLIAMS POWER b. 1869 4. GEORGE EDWARD POWER b. 1872 5. MARY ANN POWER b. 1874 6. CHARLES PATRICK POWER b. 1877 7. REBECCA MAY POWER b. 1880 8. HERBERT JAMES POWER b. 1883 9. ADA THERESA POWER b. 1885

    07/30/2003 10:56:30
    1. Re: AUS-NSW-SE-D Digest V03 #111
    2. On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 20:00:07 -0600, you wrote: >X-Message: #3 >Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 22:09:43 +1000 >From: "John Waters" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: Stoney Hole near Gunning >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="Windows-1252" > >A Gunning resident recently showed me where remnants of several cottages existed on Stoney Hole Creek, near the road to Gundaroo. He also stated that the original main road from Goulburn to Yass passed by that area. Old Parish maps appear to show parts of a disused road leaving approximately the present highway near Mt Pleasant, crossing Lerida Creek near its junction with Cullarin Creek and heading south, but only parts of it are shown. A map of 1881 notes that permission had been given to close the visible section. > >Does anyone have any information on the location of the original southern road in the vicinity of Gunning. > >It appears from birth records I have, and from a directory dated 1872, that there was, at least in the 1850s and 1860s, a settlement known as Stoney Hole, near Gunning. Any information would be welcome. > >John Waters >Melbourne Hello John I read the above with interest. Whilst not being to help with the question :-) I wonder if you could let me know the results of your research? I could find a good home for some info on Stoney Hole on my local history pages. All the best. _________________________________ Graeme Challinor http://gundaroo.alphalink.com.au

    07/28/2003 09:49:24
    1. Re: Stoney Hole near Gunning
    2. Karl Bossard
    3. John I don't know anything about Stoney Hole , however old parish maps for Gunning are available online from: http://www.lpi.nsw.gov.au/maps/pmap/search/pmap_websearch.display Just type in "Gunning" where it asks for Map Name. The Gunning you are after is in County King. Karl Bossard Canberra

    07/28/2003 08:08:13
    1. On www that may be of interest
    2. Cathy Dunn
    3. >The Proceedings of the Old Bailey London 1674 to 1834 > >A fully searchable online edition of the largest body of texts detailing >the lives of non-elite people ever published, containing accounts of over >100,000 criminal trials held at London's central criminal court.<snip/> > >http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/ cathyd

    07/28/2003 06:52:45
    1. Stoney Hole near Gunning
    2. John Waters
    3. A Gunning resident recently showed me where remnants of several cottages existed on Stoney Hole Creek, near the road to Gundaroo. He also stated that the original main road from Goulburn to Yass passed by that area. Old Parish maps appear to show parts of a disused road leaving approximately the present highway near Mt Pleasant, crossing Lerida Creek near its junction with Cullarin Creek and heading south, but only parts of it are shown. A map of 1881 notes that permission had been given to close the visible section. Does anyone have any information on the location of the original southern road in the vicinity of Gunning. It appears from birth records I have, and from a directory dated 1872, that there was, at least in the 1850s and 1860s, a settlement known as Stoney Hole, near Gunning. Any information would be welcome. John Waters Melbourne

    07/27/2003 04:09:43
    1. Griffiths and Stapley
    2. Heartseas
    3. I am trying to find descendants of Oliver Griffiths and Lucy Stapley who married in Cooma in 1937. Will be pleased to hear from anyone connected with this couple. Marie

    07/27/2003 11:49:55
    1. Re: Goward of Bega
    2. Chris & John
    3. Hi All, I am seeking Info on Susan M Goward married Alfred H Hayes 1901 Bega and their children. John.

    07/27/2003 11:33:36
    1. Re: Cemeteries in Pericoe and Burragate
    2. Ray
    3. Hello Nardia and list. Apologies if this has already been answered in the interim. I have NO personal knowledge to assist with, however a quick look through the cemeteries indexed in the 4 volumes of "Monumental Inscriptions in the Bega Valley Shire" by the Bega Valley Genealogical Society Inc., does NOT seem to include any at all for Perico or Burragate. Try contacting the society by e-mail, as they are very knowledgeable and helpful. Regards: ray in sydney ----- Original Message ----- From: "KNABAT" [email protected] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 3:31 PM > I was wondering if anyone knows if the above towns have a cemetery. Cheers Nardia

    07/26/2003 04:37:59
    1. Regina v Randall
    2. Mel
    3. Hello AUS-NSW-SE-L, Apologies for my tardiness, I have been transcribing a book and was too busy to get to this. I don't know if anyone has thought to do this but I have edited the original email containing the details of the trial in accordance with the Judge's directions, and here is what the "evidence" now looks like. The "view" of this is interesting. ______________________________________________________________________ William Randall Newspaper Report. 24/1/1879. Yass ???? William Randall (on bail) was charged that he did at Binalong on the 23 November last ----- with intent to do grievous bodily harm, one Elizabeth Randall. Prisoner: Pleaded not guilty. Mr.Healy prosecuted for the Crown. The Crown Prosecutor stated the case, and called: Elizabeth Randall, who deposed: I am the wife of prisoner and live at Binalong; I remember 23rd November last; .......he was swearing, and I told him to stop, he said he would not; I told him if he did not stop I would hit him with a brick; I did not hit him; he struck me with his open hand on the side of the head; he was standing up; I don't know whether he hit me with ----- ---- ----- ---, when I came to myself I saw blood; I may have hurt myself in falling I can't say; I was stunned and fell down and the blow knocked me over; I was sitting by the fireplace; there was no fender; the floor is brick; when I came to myself I was bleeding at the side of my head; there was a small cut; I was weak from the loss of blood; Mrs.Gibson came over immediately; I was lying on the bed; I don't know if Mrs.Gibson came over a second time; I was in bed two days; I did not feel much pain. I am telling the truth; I don't wish to prosecute. - no wife does. Jane Ryan deposed: Prisoner is my grandfather; on the night of 23rd November last; prisoner picked up a boot and threw it at grandmother, but I did not see her hit with it; I saw her bleeding; that was after prisoner picked up the boot; I saw the prisoner beat grandmother with his hand; I made a mistake when I said at the Police court that the prisoner was beating my grandmother with a boot; he beat her with a closed fist; I went over to Mr. Gibson's; I have not been talking to my grandmother about this case; I gave the boot to the constable. James Gibson deposed: I am a laborer, residing at Binalong; I remember Jane Ryan coming to my place on 23rd November; I went over to the prisoners place in consequence; the old women was lying on the floor bleeding from the head; I found a gun-barrel on the floor. I saw spots of blood on it afterwards; it was lying near the old women; she was lying near the door, and afterwards moved to the fireplace; the gun-barrel was kept in the fireplace; it was outside the fireplace when I saw it; I gave it to the constable; I saw it; I gave it to the constable; I saw the spots of blood towards morning; I went home and came back again, the prisoner was where I had left him; the old women was very weak, and still bleeding; This time I noticed the blood on the gun- barrel; I have had no conversation with the prisoner. To His Honor: The blood was near the bottom of the gun-barrel, near the breech; did not notice if the blood was wet or dry; it was in the constable's hands; I did not take it to the police; I showed it to the constable; I tried to stop the blood and then brought the police to the house; I don't know whether the gun-barrel was handed by me to the constable or not. To Crown prosecutor: The gun-barrel produced is the barrel I saw; it then as it now is; I swear I don't know whether the blood spots were wet or dry. To a juror: The wound I saw in the women's head was a small one; I have seen the gun-barrel before; the stock was then broken. To His Honor: I mean half a pint when I say a good quantity of blood. To prisoner: I observed the blood on the gun-barrel when I took it from your house; I have not wiped it. witness examined the gun-barrel to see if spots remained. To his Honor: The blood is not on the barrel now. Jane Ryan recalled by a Juryman: Grandmother had a cap on when prisoner hit her; I saw the cap afterwards; I saw that the cap was torn; I didn't know how it was torn. Was he guilty or not guilty? ................................................................... If the Judge can please comment as to whether the above is correct, and if all jury members would read this and re-consider where necessary. Comments to the Judge. In the various Australian States, alternative verdicts are only permitted where the Statutes permit, and if the Statutes do not allow for this, then an alternative verdict is allowable only IF THE PRISONER HAS BEEN PRESENTED ON A LESSER CHARGE. A verdict of Gross Negligence would not be allowed, as it would be illegal, again unless he was charged with "Causing Injury by gross negligence." Also to the Judge, just in case she seeks to use it, nowhere in Australian Law, can a Judge over-rule a Jury's verdict and replace it with their (the Judge's) own verdict, as can be done in some US States. Best regards, Mel mailto:[email protected]

    07/23/2003 08:10:49
    1. Cemeteries in Pericoe and Burragate
    2. KNABAT
    3. I was wondering if anyone knows if the above towns have a cemetery. Cheers Nardia [email protected]

    07/21/2003 09:31:14
    1. Goulburn Surname site
    2. Penny Family History
    3. Thank you to all who have responded to my email about my Goulburn Surname site. All entries have now been updated. I have finetuned the site a little, and as a result there is a slight change to the address, the new address is: http://home.iprimus.com.au/pjmg/family_history/goulburn_surname_list.htm If anyone else has any names they would like me to add, please contact me off list. Kind regards, Penny

    07/20/2003 10:49:44
    1. Bateman/Ryan
    2. KNABAT
    3. Is anyone researching the above names? I looking for any descendants of Thomas Bateman who married a Margaret Ryan in Pambula on the 8th September 1850. Cheers Nardia [email protected]

    07/18/2003 08:00:16
    1. Re: Hope this post makes it .......From the Judge
    2. Carole Douch
    3. Hello Judge,I cleaned up my computer the other day and deleted the trial, as I thought it had been finished with, so I can not reread it, 1.All I know is that he is Not Guilty, as there are too many if's and but's ,and heresay, 2. He might of been a brutal man ,and he might of been pushed too far 3 The head wound was on the back of the head, and only a small mark, 4. Who said that the floor was clean,I can not see how the floor was clean, if you where drinking, the place wouldnt be clean 5 Did some one clean the floor and the area before the police came?? 6 She didnt press charges ,Why. 7 The judge had it in for him,and the family. 8. Who said he intended to hurt her,a spur of the moment thing. 9.If he was drunk, how can he be guilty of gross negligence, he could of been out cold, 10 What and where was the daughter, she must of cleaned her mother up, or the mother cleaned her self up. Carole #1 ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 11:46 PM Subject: Hope this post makes it .......From the Judge > Dear Jury: > > It is my understanding this letter never went to the group. I am sending it > again. Juror #1 has answered. But, I will leave this letter as it was. This > way I won't have to write it all over again. So, Juror #1 please send your > answer to the group so we can discuss it. Here is the letter again with the > original format: > > It is now time to start again. I believe we are all here. I am attempting > to get this show on the road with some sort of organization. > > It seems the best place to start is with juror #1. I am requesting that > juror #1 write the group letting us know your determination. RESPOND TO THE > GROUP... > > Juror #1: You may state Mr. Randall is guilty as charged or not guilty as > charged. You may in the alternative find him guilty of gross negligence. Then > please state your reasoning. > > The prosecution has presented it's case. You must determine if the defense > has been able to rebut the assertions of the prosecution. The burden of proof > in is the responsibility of the prosecution. The defendant only need to > refute the prosecution. If the defense has done this to your satisfaction then he > is innocent. If on the other hand you find the defense has not rebutted the > assertions then he is guilty. Please refer to my prior jury instructions. > > At this point I am not imposing any punishment. If Mr. Randall is found > guilty of either charge then the punishment will fit the crime and the person > involved. All mitigating factors will be considered. > > Jury, after Juror #1 has posted their determination and reasons for their > conclusion you should all respond in a free and open discussion on this list. > SEND YOUR RESPONSE TO THE LIST. > > Please do not hold back. After each of you has responded we will take a vote > again and see how it goes. If you are not all in agreement then juror #2 > will post in the same manor as juror #1. This process will continue until you > all agree. > > During this process you will also hear from the judge. I will remind you of > the jury instructions if I find you have strayed to far. I will cut all of > you some slack as this in the only way to have a free and open discussion. > > Let the fun begin!!! > > Juror #1 please step up. > > The Judge. > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

    07/13/2003 02:50:51
    1. Hope this post makes it .......From the Judge
    2. Dear Jury: It is my understanding this letter never went to the group. I am sending it again. Juror #1 has answered. But, I will leave this letter as it was. This way I won't have to write it all over again. So, Juror #1 please send your answer to the group so we can discuss it. Here is the letter again with the original format: It is now time to start again. I believe we are all here. I am attempting to get this show on the road with some sort of organization. It seems the best place to start is with juror #1. I am requesting that juror #1 write the group letting us know your determination. RESPOND TO THE GROUP... Juror #1: You may state Mr. Randall is guilty as charged or not guilty as charged. You may in the alternative find him guilty of gross negligence. Then please state your reasoning. The prosecution has presented it's case. You must determine if the defense has been able to rebut the assertions of the prosecution. The burden of proof in is the responsibility of the prosecution. The defendant only need to refute the prosecution. If the defense has done this to your satisfaction then he is innocent. If on the other hand you find the defense has not rebutted the assertions then he is guilty. Please refer to my prior jury instructions. At this point I am not imposing any punishment. If Mr. Randall is found guilty of either charge then the punishment will fit the crime and the person involved. All mitigating factors will be considered. Jury, after Juror #1 has posted their determination and reasons for their conclusion you should all respond in a free and open discussion on this list. SEND YOUR RESPONSE TO THE LIST. Please do not hold back. After each of you has responded we will take a vote again and see how it goes. If you are not all in agreement then juror #2 will post in the same manor as juror #1. This process will continue until you all agree. During this process you will also hear from the judge. I will remind you of the jury instructions if I find you have strayed to far. I will cut all of you some slack as this in the only way to have a free and open discussion. Let the fun begin!!! Juror #1 please step up. The Judge.

    07/12/2003 03:46:58
    1. MOORE-WOOD
    2. Joy Richens
    3. Hello, Is anyone reseaching William George MOORE and Martha WOOD who lived at Cowra from about 1892 until 1919? Joy

    07/11/2003 01:10:50