Hello Delma... Thanks for your email... and hope you are making ground in your research.... My William Player.... was a generation after your John Player , I think.... Anthony Rope m Elizabeth Pulley Their youngest daughter... Elizabeth Ann Rope m Thomas Player.. 30/10/1826 Out of their children... JAMES, WILLIAM, SARAH,EDWARD,THOMAS,JOHN,ELIZABETH,MARY.... My line from above was through the 5th child... Thomas... jnr Thomas Player m Hannah Evans 5/9/1854 Out of heir children, James, William, Thomas Malvina, Isabella, Mary, Violet, George & Elizabeth... My line was the 2nd child William b26/3/1859 -m- Sylvia Smith marriage date; 28/6/1883. ------------------------------------------- ---------------- Hope that clears it up for you. Please look at my website for details.. although the family tree isn't in there yet... It has some info on William Player... his wifes family (Thomas Smith) had Thornton Hall Penrith & The Red Cow Inn (Hotel).. Cheers Laura www.thorntonhall.homestead.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Delma McDonald" <delaren@nnsw.quik.com.au> To: <player@bigpond.net.au> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 11:15 AM Subject: Player family > Laura , > I have just found the PENRITH site and have been brousing the messages > and found yours regarding you G.Grandmother Sylvia, although I cannot > help you there I think I may have had contact with you previously > researching the PLAYER family, I come from the line of John Playerwho > married Elizabeth Ann Peak, I have quite a bit on this family but I > just cannot find your William, is he John's brother ? > Delma McDonald , northern NSW >