Hi List I am researching the CHALKER & KELLY families William Chalker - Convict per 'Çorromandel' 1802 married Elizabeth Shackle - Convict per 'Speke' 1808 Morgan Kelly - Convict per 'Chapman' 1817 married Mary English - Convict per 'Catherine' 1814 regards Kerrie

Hi Everyone, Names I am researching in and around Penrith are: CANE HAYNES COCHRANE SHEILDS SLADE (real keen to hear from anyone researching this name). HELMCKEN TUNKS BAKER DOUGLAS All above names are connected. Lesley

Hi Danielle & List I'm sure i speak for all who attended the Castlereagh celebrations over the weekend , that it was a good weekend, and for me at least quite informative. I'm researching the PARKER family of Castlereagh, that began with John Parker being sentenced to transportation and when he was free he sent for his wife Rebecca and their 3 sons Charles, David and Hezekiah, and they then had 2 more sons at Castlereagh Henry and John. The Parkers helped settle the Castlereagh area and some of the descendants of John and Rebecca still live in the area. Barb

Hello, Danielle wrote: >The list has been a bit quiet in the past couple of weeks. Perhaps it's >time to have a roll call as a number of people have joined the list >recently. Well I am a member of: * Byrnes and Irish study group. * Castlereagh study group. Both these groups are very (meaning very-very) tiny. But we hope to be optimistic and grow to a bit bigger size. Anybody is welcome to join (just email your particulars). Castlereagh study group is geared to anything and everything to do with Castlereagh, both history and prehistory. Anybody interested in this please contact me by email directly as I'd love to hear from you. One initial interest is to exchange references, and build as comprehensive as possibly a reference list or bibliography to Castlereagh. The Byrnes line I am interested in is that of David (Burns) and Ann (Reffin) who lie at rest up on the terrace above Castlereagh flats, in the Anglican cemeterery. David arrived in Sydney in 1800. Ann arrived in 1804. We would like to join with other Nepean family people (by potentially many names - Jackon, Harris, Wilkinson, Sheens, Curry, etc.) who trace back to Ann Reffin ~ to celebrate the occasion of her arrival. Also, it is characteristic of me that I tend to lose things a fair bit, and I have currently lost the email address of the Cranebrook history group ~ whence I would appreciate it if someoine could give me that please. I am a geologist and also have been doing social and political science in later years at Uni of NSW, Kensington (night time only). Kind Regards, John Byrnes

SSSHHHHHHhhh............ we are still thinking!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Judy Thurgood To: AUS-NSW-PENRITH-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW-PENRITH] quiet list Yes, it's so quiet I've been wondering if everyone's on holidays ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Wassenberg" <wisard@froggy.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-PENRITH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 9:11 PM Subject: [AUS-NSW-PENRITH] quiet list > the list is really quiet or have i been unsubbed > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi List Following up Danielle's message I am researching Obadiah Ikin - Second Fleet - source of Ikin Street. William Lane - Mounted Police at Penrith early 1840s - then Windsor Grahame

The list has been a bit quiet in the past couple of weeks. Perhaps it's time to have a roll call as a number of people have joined the list recently. I'm researching the Chalker/Charker line. William Chalker was born in 1774 and died at South Creek in 1823. He was transported for 7 years, arriving in 1802. His first wife was Mary Kearns (1768- 1826) - in 1807 an attorney was engaged to draw up Articles of Separation and he met Elizabeth Sheckel who arrived in 1808) shortly after. Elizabeth had a son Daniel (1806-1891) who came with her from England. William and Elizabeth's children are as follows Edward (1809-1890) William James (1810-1891) Maria (1811-1891) Joseph Henry (1813 - 1893) John (1815-1879) - the line I'm am particularly interested in. James (1817-1907) Mary Ann (1818 - 1873) George (1821 - 1893) Elizabeth had another son - Frederick (1825-1850) after William's death, by another man. I also have a general interest in the Penrith area. Kind Regards, Danielle List Admin

Hi there my name is Jenny Blyth i am looking for any blyth family members that are from William and Christina Blyth nee Campbell William and Christina had 8 children Christina 1837 born in Scotland married Richard Williams on the 5 th Oct 1857 and she died on the 8th Oct 1893 There children were Elizabeth Christina Richard William Alice John Ellen Florence Isabella Hugh died George Walter died. Robert 1839 born in Scotland Walter Scott 1842 -1882 married Emma Howlett in Taree on the 23rd Feb 1875 Children Walter Henry (Henry) Christina Mary died Katie Alice died Henry married Lilly Garland Christina married Edward Nutland Mary 1845 m Felix McBriarty on the 10 OCt 1864 at Cundletown Taree Nsw there children Mary Ann who married Patrick Glesson 10 children Christina m Jack Glesson 10 children Annie Pat Sheridan 2 children Isabella Charles Waltz 4 children Jack died young Arthur died young ALice Bob Smith 2 children William died young Henry un married Jessie Sister of Mercy Sister M Bernadine Fleix unmarried Kate married Tom Clark 2 children Susan married Archie Budgon 1 child Francis m Mary Hollis 9 children Bridget m Angus Hollis 10 children Theresa m Len Cross 3 children Euphaemia 1847 m 10 Jul 1865 Jones Island William Louis Kendall Nsw Robert Enrest Harry Fred William Leslie Anne Alice Florence May Ethel William 1851-18 Sept 1899 m Elizabeth Warren No children Isabella 1853 m Henry Chapman Kendall Nsw Henry Christina George Florence James Isabella Bertie Ethel William 1 male died George 1856-1947 m Susannah Salter (1) Alice Avery (2) Children of 1 marriage William Manning Blyth died 1 year Bertram Campbell Blyth 1883-1980 m Kathleen Banfill Cowan on the 2 Dec 1924 No children Susannah Blyth 1894-1972 married Thomas Avery 2 nd marriage William Best wishes Jenny jennyblyth@hotmail.com Jenny Blyth _________________________________________________________________ MSN Instant Messenger now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/hotmail_messenger.asp

Yes, it's so quiet I've been wondering if everyone's on holidays ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Wassenberg" <wisard@froggy.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-PENRITH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 9:11 PM Subject: [AUS-NSW-PENRITH] quiet list > the list is really quiet or have i been unsubbed > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

the list is really quiet or have i been unsubbed

To: AUS-NSW-PENRITH-L@rootsweb.com Hello, I am looking to determine which families of Castlereagh are related by marriage to the Byrnes family (descendants of David and Ann) who lived there. I am currently looking into this and am using Patricia Curry's very comprehensive book "A Byrnes Book 1880-2000" plus internet search. Am also hoping to have a board/A-frame at the Castlereagh celebration day and might meet some people there? Myself, my wife, and my uncle Ken are interested (my parents maybe also - but they are in their 80s and in a nursing home and are unlikely to get to Castlereagh ever again). We feel that, as far as we aware, other Byrnes (there's at least 150+ of us descendent from union of David+Ann bearing the Byrnes name and scads more who would be now under other surnames) are likely to be unaware of the Castlereagh celebration coming up. So by my reckoning, and please correct me, or tell me of further families, we have some relationship to the following families who live/d at Castlereagh: SHEEN CURRY LEES GORMAN LEWIS YEOMANS JACKSON Byrnes (my immediate ones anyway) are an Irish/Scots +/- Welsh sort of family. My father's name is "Mostyn" which is a town in northern Wales. My grandfather's middle name is Girvan, which is a town in Scotland I think. Our David forebear came from Ireland and his wife Ann came from England near Nottingham. I only recently found out that the Lewis family had a reunion in 2002 at Castlereagh and advertised in SMH, stating there inter alia that BYRNES is a related name. Ditto, the SHEENs had a reunion recently and also notified that Byrnes was a related name. My apology that we never much took note, and I would like to say belatedly that we ARE most interested to make any such contacts. I hope there will be a Byrnes family study group started, and (if the name is not taken already) a mailing list may be commenced soon as byrnes@yahoogroups.com We also seem to have some lost "family friends" in the district that somebody might know ... My uncle Ken says that he recalls that his parents, Arthur and Janet Byrnes, during the 1930's-1940's retained friends in the Castlereagh/Penrith area. The kids knew them as Aunty Ethel and Uncle Fred. They had a farm somewhere near Penrith that had horses and sulkies. This was the first time that Ken ever saw horses as a boy. He has informed me that their full name was Fred and Ethel WILLIAMS, that they were very old people when he first met them, and they were "real pioneers" of the day. He thinks that if we can find that family then they too, or their decendants, may well recall Janet or Arthur of the William Taylor Byrnes line. Anybody with information, I'd be most pleased to hear from you if you could contact me off-list. Thank you, John Graham Byrnes (Home): z2204020@POP3.student.unsw.edu.au (Work): byrnesj@minerls.nsw.gov.au Ph: (02) 9901 8789

Can anyone help me to find two family members that we know nothing about.All we know is the date of Maude Isabelle's birth and her parents who are William and Martha Andrews(nee Pike).I know that she married Thomas Cross and that they had at least 4 children.We cannot find any record of their marriage or the area in which they resided. thanks Kylee

Does anyone know of a website for the York family of the Penrith area? I did have a web address but it no longer seems to be working: http://members.ozemail.com.au/~chasr/5812.htm Is there a new website that anyone knows of? Thanks, Danielle The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information and may also be the subject of legal professional privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately. Scanned by PeNiCillin http://safe-t-net.pnc.com.au/

Would anyone know if there are descendants of one, William Windred, in this area of Australia? He was involved in misadventures with an ancestor of mine ( Thomas Burdeu) in California and I wonder if descendants know any of the stories or would be interested? His wife and he returned to NSW in 1850. Susan

I have forwarded a copy of an email that was sent to me about the Castlereagh Celebrations from the Nepean District Historical Society. Those people whose ancestors were pioneers of the Castlereagh area may find the section at the end of particular interest. Danielle Bi-Centenary of European Settlement Penrith 1803-2003 Celebrations 29th March - 6th April An update on some of the events to be held in Penrith to celebrate 200 years of European settlement in our district. Saturday 29th March * Conference 'Bicentenary of European Settlement' presented by Penrith City Library, Nepean Room, Civic Centre, Penrith. 9am. Cost $30 or $25 concession includes lunch, morning and afternoon teas. Excellent speakers, book sales. Contact Danielle Embleton 4732 7859 email daniellee@penrithcity.nsw.gov.au Bookings essential Friday 4th April * Penrith City Council Reception - by Invitation * Launch of book on original Grantees - Nepean District Archaeology Group. For information contact George Gyford 4731 6397. This book will be on sale all week-end * Entertainment by The Acting Factory Saturday 5th April * Community Day at International Regatta Centre, Castlereagh Road, Penrith. * Enter by Gate B (There will be a sign)- entry free. Turn right and follow directions * Stalls set up from 7.30 * Open for public 9.00 * Ample parking * Vintage cars / car clubs special parking area. * Marquee with limited seating . If possible provide your own seats. * 10.00 -12.30 Peal of Bells by The Upper Room bellringers, Uniting Church, Castlereagh You are invited to visit the Church and cemetery but do not disturb the Bellringers. * Canoe events on the International Rowing Course. * 10.00 Music by Penrith City Concert Band. * 10.30 Heritage dancers * 11.00 Official welcome by Mayor of Penrith Cr G Davies * Unveiling plaque to pioneers Launching book on the Grantees written by Nepean District Archaeology Group.. Enquiries G Gyford 47313967 * Recognition of pioneer family descendants who are present. * Penrith City Concert Band music of the era * Lunch * 1.00 -1.30 Kindalin Christian School * 1.30 - 2.00 Castlereagh School of Ballet * 2.00-2.30 Castlereagh Public School * Don Holley, 'convict minstrel' will stroll through the crowd during the day, entertaining with Australian songs. * Castlereagh pioneer families are bringing photographic /family history displays - please provide your own table/board if possible If you are setting up a table let me know the size so I can reserve a space for you. * Power Point Presentation by Rope Pulley Family in Marquee 2.30 * Tours of McCarthy's Cemetery 1.00-3.30 Bookings taken on day at Information table * Visitors book available - please sign it as a memento of the occasion * Many Castlereagh descendants are coming. If you can wear a name tag of the family name, you will possibly meet other members of that family. E.g. COLLESS FAMILY * Entertainment throughout the day * Barbeque by Castlereagh Bush Fire Brigade * Tea/sandwiches etc by Regatta Centre restaurant. * Meals can also be obtained from the restaurant * First Aid tent on the ground all day. Sunday 6th April - Church Services and tour of the district * Anglican Church - Christ Church, Church Lane Castlereagh Family service 8.00 enquiries Mrs Stinson * Uniting Church - Castlereagh Road service 2.30 followed by afternoon tea. Enquiries J Stephens 47210550 (evening) * Bus Tour Cranebrook Castlereagh - Leaving Council Chambers Penrith 11.0 Booking essential as only 60 can be accommodated. Cost $15 Picnic lunch at 'Minchin Gardens' Tea and coffee provided. BYO lunch. Booking with payment must be made by 18th March. Please make cheques out to Lorna Parr or Nepean Heritage Tours as I have the insurance for tours. Enquires Lorna Parr Ph/fax 4777 4459 email lornaparr@yahoo.com.au The Committee wishes to thank Penrith City Council, owners of 'Combewood', International Regatta Centre, Penrith Lakes Development Corporation, Penrith City Band, Heritage Dancers, Castlereagh Bush Fire Brigade, Environmental Education Centre and all those families and friends who have made this day a success. Note to Old Castlereagh Families Twenty five native trees (with plaque attached) have been donated to us to plant on the day at the old Upper Castlereagh School to recognise the efforts of early pioneers. If you would like to nominate your Castlereagh Pioneer family please fill in the attached and return to Lorna Parr 63 Taylor Road, Cranebrook 2749 as soon as possible. Note. We only have 25 trees so the committee will review the nominations to cover the Castlereagh area as widely as possible. Only one person can plant the tree so someone must be nominated by you. Your name Address and phone number Ancestor family Person nominated to plant tree Other information if you think necessary The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information and may also be the subject of legal professional privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately. Scanned by PeNiCillin http://safe-t-net.pnc.com.au/

Hi List members A general question about cemeteries. I am involved with the Kilmore and District Historical Society. Recently we have been looking at the plans of the Kilmore General Cemetery and it includes a hospital section. Then looking at the mid 1800s hospital minute books it seems that where a patient is admitted without any means of support and then dies, the Hospital paid for the burial in the hospital section of the cemetery. Question - was this a general practice in those days and do any of the general cemeteries in the Penrith area have a section for the hospital???? Grahame Thom

Hi Listers, This may be of interest to someone. The Sydney Morning Herald, 9 Jan 1839, Page 3, Col 3, has 2 notices about the Rose Inn Penrith. The first is by John Perry who is the new proprietor extolling the virtues of his establishment in the hope that old patronage will continue and that new patronage will increase. He adds that he has secured the services of a sober groom to take charge of the stables. He also advertised for a cook and a man to travel on the road with a team. The second is by J A Salmon, informing his patrons that he is retiring from this establishment. He recommends John Perry, late of Sydney. He asks that all accounts be submitted for payment and the settlement of debts immediately as he is going into partnership with his brother-in-law, Mr J L Smith. Kristine Wood

Hi Listers, The Anglican Book of Common Prayer is on the net. Well a form of the 1662 with amendments but basically the same version. The list of non valid marriages is in No. 34 A Table of Kindred and Affinity. http://www.eskimo.com/~lhowell/bcp1662/misc/kindred.html Kristine Wood

Hello Danielle, Would you kindly forward a brochure please to: Jacquie Christensen 11 Morris Street Ormiston Qld 4160 My interests lie with the Thomas & Jane (nee Laimbeer) Smith families of The Red Cow Hotel, Thornton Hall and the old Belmore Estate, Penrith. Regards Jac

I do apologise to everyone on the list for unwittingly causing this ruckus. I clicked reply to the list and not to Danielle's address. But I also do not agree that keeping replies to family history matters off the list is essential. These list messages attract new members of the list. You would be surprised at how many people go through the archives of the list to find clues to their ancestors. It is fair enough after the first contact to continue corresponding off the list but I enjoy reading who is researching what and if there is a query to see if anyone replied to it. Also if the incoming email is getting too much for you, try subscribing to the digest. You will only receive one email a day with all the messages posted that day. The RootsWeb Review 26 Feb 2003 Vol 6 No 9 has an article about Rootsweb Mailing lists which may be of help to people. I don't know how I started getting the RootsWeb Review but it is interesting to read even though most things are in America. Thank you for your forebearance and I apologise to Danielle too. Kristine Wood ----- Original Message ----- From: Lyn Forde <lynforde@yahoo.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-PENRITH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 7:12 AM Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW-PENRITH] Castlereagh Land Grants > Why am I getting everyone's reply to other people's > emails. Is there any way to stop getting emails that > are for other members on the list????? > Lyn Forde > --- Kristine Wood <kristine.wood@mailbox.gu.edu.au> > wrote: > > Yes, please. I would like a brochure. > > Kristine Wood > > 2285 Wynnum Road > > Wynnum North 4178 > > > > Thank you very much. > > Kris > > > > > > > > > > > > "Danielle" <robndani@bigpond.net.au> > > 26/02/03 16:36 > > Please respond to AUS-NSW-PENRITH-L > > > > > > To: AUS-NSW-PENRITH-L@rootsweb.com > > cc: > > Subject: [AUS-NSW-PENRITH] > > Castlereagh Land Grants > > > > > > 2003 marks the 200th anniversary of the beginning of > > European settlement > > in the Penrith district at Castlereagh. Penrith > > City Council and Library > > are holding their second annual conference to > > celebrate this milestone in > > our local history. The conference, "The Makings of > > a City: Bicentenary of > > European Settlement" will be held on Saturday 29 > > March 2003. > > > > The programme has been finalised and the brochures > > have been printed! If > > you would like to have one posted out to you, please > > email me with your > > address. > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Danielle Embleton > > Penrith City Library > > daniellee@penrithcity.nsw.gov.au > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > > online genealogy records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > > online genealogy records, go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ===== > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more > http://taxes.yahoo.com/ > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >