I am looking for any information on a Robert Martin who married Eliza Jane Taylor in St Thomas Church 1866. A Mr Biffin signed the marriage certificate as guardian. This family appear to have been in the are until 1873. at the time of their third child's birth Edward Ernest Martin. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks all, Janice Taylor Researching: Taylor, Armstrong, Wainwright, Wall, Martin, Chaplain, Hannabus

Just a reminder that the Nepean Family History Society is currently accepting contributions for the Nepean District Pioneer Register Volume 2. A pioneer is a person who lived in the Nepean District between 1788 and 1900. Submissions close on the 30 November 2003. I have a copy of the contribution form that I can email to anyone who may be interested. If you would like me to send it to you, please email me off list at: daniellee@penrithcity.nsw.gov.au Remember not to automatically hit reply to this email, otherwise your email is sent to everyone on the list. Regards, Danielle The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information and may also be the subject of legal professional privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately. Scanned by PeNiCillin http://safe-t-net.pnc.com.au/

It's been great to see so much activity on the list these past few days. I thought I would just let listers know that Bigpond appears to be having further problems. I have had several error messages sent to me by Rootsweb and they've all involved bigpond.com email addresses. This mainly occurred on Friday 31 October and Saturday 1 November (and hopefully will have sorted itself out by now), so those of you who use bigpond may wish to check the archives for the Penrith Rootsweb list to see if there have been any postings you might have missed. The archives can be found at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/AUS-NSW-PENRITH/ Best wishes, Danielle Embleton List Administrator

Thanks Pat - love to find the connections and read about families - my William came to Australia in 1816 on Ocean and lived at Richmond. His son, John, became the undertaker at Penrith. Regards Ann Pat Curry wrote: > My husband's family is connected to William Price through his daughter > Mary Ann who married George Hollier, and then grand-daughters Amelia who > married Hugh Curry and Rebecca Caroline who married Henry Byrnes. > William's daughter Sarah Price married Noah Hollier, and then their son > Ernest Albert Hollier married Edith Eliza Byrnes, sister of the Henry > Byrnes above. > > Not sure if you know all these connections between the two families, and > the Sutton ones also. > > I have always found the interconnections between local families quite > fascinating. > > Pat Curry > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chenelle [mailto:chenelle@bigpond.net.au] > Sent: Friday, 31 October 2003 5:04 PM > To: AUS-NSW-PENRITH-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AUS-NSW-PENRITH] Price > > Hello Ann, > > I'm a descendant through Sarah Price (who married Noah Hollier), > daughter of William Price, son of Phillip Price. > > As far as I am aware, William Price was a butcher in Penrith. > > Kind Regards > > Sharron > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hello Joanne, I'm sure your Bolton information is probably the correct one. I was missing Henry. I didn't realise there was a Bolton Family Web page. Could you please forward me the site address? Kind Regards Sharron

Hello Pat, I was in Penrith recently and took a long walk through the cemetery, taking many photos for my family tree. I noticed there were a few 'Curry' gravesites. I, too, find the interconnections most fascinating. And I thank god for computers and the internet, where would we be without them? Kind regards Sharron

Just realized I sent my previous e-mail to the list instead of to Chenelle as I had intended. I am also aware of the other, more well-known Price" family in Penrith that most other recent listers were referring to, and my husband also has some connections to them through intermarriage also. Pat Curry

My husband's family is connected to William Price through his daughter Mary Ann who married George Hollier, and then grand-daughters Amelia who married Hugh Curry and Rebecca Caroline who married Henry Byrnes. William's daughter Sarah Price married Noah Hollier, and then their son Ernest Albert Hollier married Edith Eliza Byrnes, sister of the Henry Byrnes above. Not sure if you know all these connections between the two families, and the Sutton ones also. I have always found the interconnections between local families quite fascinating. Pat Curry -----Original Message----- From: Chenelle [mailto:chenelle@bigpond.net.au] Sent: Friday, 31 October 2003 5:04 PM To: AUS-NSW-PENRITH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [AUS-NSW-PENRITH] Price Hello Ann, I'm a descendant through Sarah Price (who married Noah Hollier), daughter of William Price, son of Phillip Price. As far as I am aware, William Price was a butcher in Penrith. Kind Regards Sharron ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Peter, yes we would be interested in that side of the family please use our email gundog1@bigpond.com Bob and Joyce >From: peter@leroy.ws >Reply-To: AUS-NSW-PENRITH-L@rootsweb.com >To: AUS-NSW-PENRITH-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [AUS-NSW-PENRITH] Boltons >Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 09:13:50 -0800 (PST) > >Hello Fellow and Fellowette listers, > >I too am related by a mariage to a Bolton. Hannah >BOLTON , daughter of Robert BOLTON and Ann SMITH maried >James STUBBS at Pitt Town on 27 October 1845. > >James is a 1st cousin 4 times removed. Distant but he >is on our family database. > >Kind Regards, >Peter Leroy > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > _________________________________________________________________ Hot chart ringtones and polyphonics. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilemania/default.asp

Joanne, Yes we are interested in these families please contact us at gundog1@bigpond.com Bob and Joyce >From: Ron & Joanne Flack <bell.bird@bigpond.com> >Reply-To: AUS-NSW-PENRITH-L@rootsweb.com >To: AUS-NSW-PENRITH-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW-PENRITH] FW: The possibility of a museum for >Castlereagh? >Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:07:06 +1100 > >Hi Rosemary > >The Reunion has been organised by Lesley Eubel, Aust Convicts To Pt >Jackson >List Adminstrator, and is to be held on 29th & 30th November 2003 at >Windsor High School, and if you go to her web page and scroll down to the >Hawkesbury Reunion and click to open you will learn all! There is to a >dinner on the Saturday night The dinner will be held at the Windsor RSL >Club at 7pm. We are staying overnight at a motel in Windsor. Out pioneer >families are Boltons, Lees, Colless, Flack, Collits, Gorman, Core, etc. > >Lesley's "Claim a Convict"site is at >http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/index.html > >Regards > >Joanne > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "rosemary" <rosemary@pnc.com.au> >To: <AUS-NSW-PENRITH-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 7:51 AM >Subject: Re: [AUS-NSW-PENRITH] FW: The possibility of a museum for >Castlereagh? > > > > Message for Joanne. > > Can you tell me about the Hawkesbury pioneer families reunion. I am > > descended from Isaac Cornwell and Margaret Stocker, but don't think I >have > > my name on any list. I would love to attend. > > Rosemary > > > > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > _________________________________________________________________ Hot chart ringtones and polyphonics. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilemania/default.asp

Different line - my William Price married ann nee Cooper and their children - sons - were William Thomas, Charles, John and Benjamin. John became the undertaker at Penrith. Ann Chenelle wrote: > Hello Ann, > > I'm a descendant through Sarah Price (who married Noah Hollier), daughter of William Price, son of Phillip Price. > > As far as I am aware, William Price was a butcher in Penrith. > > Kind Regards > > Sharron > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hello Sharron My Tree consists of Margaret (Maria) b c1805 William b c1807 Isaac b 1807 Mary b c1808 Thomas b c1809 Jane b c1811 Ann b 3 March 1814 George b 3 March 1814 Sarah b c1816 Robert b c1819 Hannah b July 1823 Henry b 1826 More confusion! Regards Joanne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chenelle" <chenelle@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-NSW-PENRITH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 5:31 PM Subject: [AUS-NSW-PENRITH] Bolton > Hello Joanne, > > I have two separate information sheets on the Bolton's, one showing 11 children and the other showing 12 children - > Maria, Isaac, Mary, Thomas, William, Jane , George, Ann, Sarah, Robert and Hannah. > > > Kind Regards > > Sharron > > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hello Joanne, I have two separate information sheets on the Bolton's, one showing 11 children and the other showing 12 children - Maria, Isaac, Mary, Thomas, William, Jane , George, Ann, Sarah, Robert and Hannah. Kind Regards Sharron

Hello Ann, I'm a descendant through Sarah Price (who married Noah Hollier), daughter of William Price, son of Phillip Price. As far as I am aware, William Price was a butcher in Penrith. Kind Regards Sharron

Hi Sharron - who are the Price family members that you mention. I am a Price descendent and have updated a family history book - copy in Penrith Library. Ann Chenelle wrote: > Hi Listers, > > I am descended from Sarah Bolton (Agnes Banks-1816) and James Mills. > > My Interests are Jeffriess, Mitchell, Barnett, Mills, Bolton, Smith, Price, Hollier, Sutton, Tuxford, Urquhart, Brown and Barnicoat. > > I would appreciate any information on those families, and also on any reunions. > > Kind Regards, > > Sharron > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi Listers, Very sorry to have to say this all again. Have discovered that Sophia Harriet Stewart, daughter of John STEWART and Letitia NEITH was born abt 1828 in South Creek, Penrith NSW. I cannot find any information on her parents or siblings James and Mary A (no surprise I guess it's "Ann"). I have checked the 1828 census and other documents at the State Library in Adelaide. They are listed, but there are not other details like occupation etc. Lynda

Hello Sharron Yes I have 12 children but one of them. Thomas born c 809 Sydney died 1827 Parramatta is in dispute as he was not shown on the 1828 Census. I may eliminate him from the team. The 1814 General Muster showed 5 children off stores but there were eight - not including Thomas but including twins Ann and George born 13 March 1814. The twins would not have been living off stores at that early age I would think. (General Muster October 17th to November 16th 1814. Page 34) The General Muster of NSW 2nd Sept. to 13th Sept. 1822, Page 43, showed 9 children but there were 10 still not including Thomas. The General Musters of NSW 1823 to1825. Page 45 showed 8, but Margaret and Mary were married by then and Hannah was not born. So that makes 11, with no Thomas. Does any other Bolton folk have ideas on Thomas? Have I got any of the figures wrong? Regards Joanne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chenelle" <chenelle@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-NSW-PENRITH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 9:08 AM Subject: [AUS-NSW-PENRITH] Robert Bolton > Hello Peter, > > Robert Bolton and Ann Smith had 12 children. Would you happen to know their names? > > I note that you are descendent from Hannah. I am a descendent from Sarah Bolton. > > Robert Bolton was the son of William Bolton and Sarah Skilling from Wiltshire, England. > Do you know if Robert had any siblings? > > Kind Regards > > Sharron > > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hell John Another gem - I too must have a look for his published works - Fulton must have been pleased with Charles Thomson Jnr's progress. Regards Joanne ----- Original Message ----- From: "BYRNES John" <john.byrnes@minerals.nsw.gov.au> To: <AUS-NSW-PENRITH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 10:23 AM Subject: [AUS-NSW-PENRITH] Another 'How green is my valley' sort of early poem > > NOTICE: This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain > confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended > recipient, please notify the sender and delete the message. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, and are not necessarily the views of the NSW Department of Mineral Resources. > > > Hello all, > > > I recently sent along the words of Charles Thomson Jnr's poem "Fair Castlereagh". > > Two people have since emailed me commenting on what a lovely poem it is, and one person was actually so wrapt in it that he said he was setting off to the library to try and find Thomson whole book of verse (He said he'd never known about >

NOTICE: This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete the message. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, and are not necessarily the views of the NSW Department of Mineral Resources. Hello all, I recently sent along the words of Charles Thomson Jnr's poem "Fair Castlereagh". Two people have since emailed me commenting on what a lovely poem it is, and one person was actually so wrapt in it that he said he was setting off to the library to try and find Thomson whole book of verse (He said he'd never known about Thomson before but thought he was a very interesting poet). Charles Thomson Jnr is taken to have been one of Fulton's brightest students at the classics-teaching Castlereagh Academy on the hill (presumably very close to the Anglican or general cemetery although not a trace of it remains today I think). One person has detailed to me why C Thomson Jnr was not "Australia's first native born published poet" but probably the second and that the first one was born on Norfolk Island, if we are to consider that as part of Australia. Mmmm, thanks for that information. Here is another poem below, written about a place that must be in England one presumes, which is at least a little like the "Fair Castlereagh" one (although my favorite poem remains as "Fair Castlereagh"). Kind Regards, John Byrnes ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ LINDEN LEA by William Barnes (1801-1886) 'Ithin the woodlands, flow'ry gleaded, By the woak tree's mossy moot, The sheenen grass-bleades, timber-sheaded, Now do quiver under voot: An' birds do whissle auver head, An' water's bubblen in its bed, An' there vor me the apple tree Do lean down low in Linden Lea. When leaves that leatley wer a-springen Now do feade 'ithin the copse, An' painted birds do hush their zingen Up upon the timber's tops: An' brown-leav'd fruit's a-turnen red, In cloudless zunsheen, auver head, Wi' fruit vor me, the apple tree Do lean down low in Linden Lea. Let other vo'k meake money vaster In the air o'dark-room'd towns, I don't dread a peevish measter: Though noo man do heed my frowns. I be free to goo abrode Or teake agean my homeward road To where, vor me, the apple tree Do lean down low in Linden Lea. (William Barnes wrote this quite obviously in his native Dorset dialect ....)

Hello Peter, Robert Bolton and Ann Smith had 12 children. Would you happen to know their names? I note that you are descendent from Hannah. I am a descendent from Sarah Bolton. Robert Bolton was the son of William Bolton and Sarah Skilling from Wiltshire, England. Do you know if Robert had any siblings? Kind Regards Sharron