Can anyone tell me please what cemeteries (Penrith or others) have their "occupants" listed either on CD or hard copy which can be purchased. Dawn Geddes

Is anyone researching Charles Moore who died on the 4 July 1895? He is buried at Emu Plains Cemetery and Penrith City Council is hoping to get in touch with any of his descendants in regard to his headstone. The headstone needs to be repaired as it is in a dangerous condition and council would like to speak to family members before they commence repair work. The inscription on the headstone reads: Charles Moore M.L.C. of Moore Court, Springwood who departed this life 4th July 1895 In his seventy fifth year If you are a descendant, or you know somebody who is, please contact me on the details below. Thanks, Danielle Embleton Email: daniellee@penrithcity.nsw.gov.au Phone: 02 4732 7859 The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information and may also be the subject of legal professional privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure or copying of this document is unauthorised. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately. Scanned by PeNiCillin http://safe-t-net.pnc.com.au/

Yeah! Me too. Where do you get the seeds. Mick.

Their was a Timothy Leary doco on the other night . Maybe his relatives subscribe to the list. Phil L Storey plstorey@acay.com.au ----- Original Message ----- From: "michael wise" <BRUIN1@bigpond.com> To: <AUS-NSW-PENRITH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 2:29 PM Subject: [AUS-NSW-PENRITH] Re Lack of Emoire Attendance > Yeah! Me too. Where do you get the seeds. > > Mick. > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

I agree with Lyn Let me know where you get it from so we can all have some .

Please explain? This was so refreshing that I actually laughed and I'm pretty darn pleased the list received it in err but a few things need explaining to the mere layman like me - what pray tell is a "stick" and "knobkerrie" for as a keen family historian I may need this information for future reference. C'mon Jan, don't be shy? Please tell. Regards Jac ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan & Peter Herivel" <herivels@pnc.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-PENRITH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 10:09 AM Subject: [AUS-NSW-PENRITH] Lack of Empire attendance > Dear God WOD, > > I was disheartened at the lack of Zimbabwean representation at the > Remembrance Day ceremony held at Memory Park yesterday. After all many of > our WW 2 aircrew trained in that august setting during WW2. I was > particularly disheartened to note the lack of any good knobkerrie in sight > after telling my colleagues about its mystical powers! While I know there > were other magnificent specimens of stick in attendance, they are just pale > imitations! It was such a shock to my system that I had to retire to the > safe haven at the Penrith RSL and fortify myself! > > I trust that in future years, the good honour and reputation of Zimbabwe > will be restored by the appearance of your good self at this auspicious > occasion. I will now retire to read the Customs of the RAAF to see whether > there is a precedent on matters such as this. > > Yours humbly > > Jan H > > ______________________________

My apologies everyone, one of my children was playing around with email and inadvertently sent this to the list as well as the recipient. Jan

Dear God WOD, I was disheartened at the lack of Zimbabwean representation at the Remembrance Day ceremony held at Memory Park yesterday. After all many of our WW 2 aircrew trained in that august setting during WW2. I was particularly disheartened to note the lack of any good knobkerrie in sight after telling my colleagues about its mystical powers! While I know there were other magnificent specimens of stick in attendance, they are just pale imitations! It was such a shock to my system that I had to retire to the safe haven at the Penrith RSL and fortify myself! I trust that in future years, the good honour and reputation of Zimbabwe will be restored by the appearance of your good self at this auspicious occasion. I will now retire to read the Customs of the RAAF to see whether there is a precedent on matters such as this. Yours humbly Jan H

Dear Jan and Peter, not sure what "weed" you are on but I want some. Lyn --- Jan & Peter Herivel <herivels@pnc.com.au> wrote: > Dear God WOD, > > I was disheartened at the lack of Zimbabwean > representation at the > Remembrance Day ceremony held at Memory Park > yesterday. After all many of > our WW 2 aircrew trained in that august setting > during WW2. I was > particularly disheartened to note the lack of any > good knobkerrie in sight > after telling my colleagues about its mystical > powers! While I know there > were other magnificent specimens of stick in > attendance, they are just pale > imitations! It was such a shock to my system that I > had to retire to the > safe haven at the Penrith RSL and fortify myself! > > I trust that in future years, the good honour and > reputation of Zimbabwe > will be restored by the appearance of your good self > at this auspicious > occasion. I will now retire to read the Customs of > the RAAF to see whether > there is a precedent on matters such as this. > > Yours humbly > > Jan H > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ===== __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree

Hi everyone This morning the Memories of War website which contains the Penrith District Honour Roll was officially launched at the Penrith RSL Club after the Remembrance Day ceremony this morning. The website has been operational for some time and in the past few months, we have added quite a few more biographies. At this stage we are researching the soldiers from the district who were killed during the war. However, if anyone has details of a WW1 returned soldier from our area, I would love to hear from you. The site can be viewed at: http://www.penrithcity.nsw.gov.au/history/war/warhome.htm At the going down of the sun And in the morning We will remember them Lest we forget Jan Herivel Penrith -----Original Message----- From: AUS-AIF-D-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:AUS-AIF-D-request@rootsweb.com] Sent: Monday, 10 November 2003 10:00 PM To: AUS-AIF-D@rootsweb.com Subject: AUS-AIF-D Digest V03 #81

Hi, I have just joined this list and would like to list my interests. My main interest is the Bruce family. However Henry Bruce a blacksmith who was born in 1831 (England) married a Mary Ann Walker (born 1832?) who was the daughter of Mathew Walker and Sarah Sessions who with their family came out to Aust on the Canton in 1848. I would be interested in corresponding with anyone who is descended from this family with a view to confirming the date of birth of Mary Ann. Matthew & Sarah Walker lived in the Emu Plains area, they both died in the Penrith/Emu Plains area in 1859 & 1860. Jennifer Bruce in Dubbo

Hi, I have just subscribed to this list and would like to list my interests which are- My main interest is Bruce of which our original ancestor was James Bruce a convict who came to Australia in 1831 aboard the Surry and was assigned to AK Mackenzie on Dockairn at Kelso/Bathurst. His 5 children were James (jnr) Henry, Ellen (married Archer) George William and Robert. James Snr is buried at Holy Trinity Kelso, James (Jnr) is buried at Bowenfels, Henry is buried at Dubbo after living at Kelso, Penrith/Emu Plains, and Hartley as well as Dubbo and Ellen is buried at Denham Court, George Wiilliam is buried at Rookwood but spent most of his life in the Pyramul/Windeyer area and Robert is also buried in Rookwood after spending his life following the gold fields of southern NSW. He lived quite a while in Temora. George William had a daughter Sarah Ann Philomena Bruce who married a George Henry Williams, they had a large family of 11 children including- Milddred Elizabeth, Horace, Ronald Bruce, George, Lewis, Solomon, Fanny, Mary, Douglas, Esther and Eileen. George & Sarah were married in 1896 at Mudgee. Quite a few of the family lived in the Lithgow area. Mantell family is Henry Joseph Mantell married Mary Jane Bruce at Mudgee in 1898 and had Henry Bruce, Arthur Joseph, Hilda May and Murvis Mabel. Would like to hear from anyone who has an interest in these names. Jennifer Bruce in Dubbo

Dear Listers, A suggestion when replying to messages posted to the Penrith Rootsweb list. When replying to a message, please include only the relevant part of the email you are answering and delete the rest of the email. Otherwise the email can end up rather long and the reader then has to go through the whole email to find the part that interests them. This can be a little frustrating for those who receive the postings to this list in digest form, or for those who are subscribed to a number of lists and receive a large number of emails each day. Many thanks, Danielle List Admin

Hi Sue Under such circumstances I would have a look at the actual burial entry in the church register because it may just have more or different information. For example, my grandmother's NSW BDM marriage certificate does nor reveal her father's name but the church register does. I suppose it all depends on how keen you are to find any answers. Another possibility is approaching all living descendants to see if they know anything or hold any old papers/certificates/photos. Doing this solved an adoption issue for us. If you think there is a chance that descendants still live in the Liverpool area, then send a "Letter to the Editor" of the local newspaper. All the best with your research Grahame on 7/11/03 8:02 PM, Sue Adamson at mosessue@tpg.com.au wrote: > > Hi Grahame, > > l have no info on the adopted son. He was the informant on his ' adopted ' > Fathers death cert. > It's like these people didn't exist. > > The death cert for John BAINES has heaps of info on it. But nothing gels. > It states where he was married and to whom, but no registration. > It states there were three living males to the marriage, but no name's and > nothing l can find in the States for registration of these births. > It states that J. BAINES adopted son was the informant. But can't find > anything on him. > It states that John BAINES was buried in St. Lukes Liverpool [ which is now a > memorial garden ]. But in the list of gravestones prior to it becoming a > memorial garden he is not on it. > > I'm open to any suggestions > > Sue > Hi Sue > > Re Q 1, have a look at the following web site. > > http://www.liverpool.nsw.gov.au/info/ldfhs.htm > > Re Q 2, Even today there are Parish Registers, but generally speaking there > is no single repository. The location of registers tends to depend on the > religion eg RC, Methodist, C 0f E etc. For example most NSW Methodist > registers are in the NSW State Library. > > Usually the best place to start is to ask the local FH Society or the > particular church if still in existence. > > Re Q 3 look at > > http://www.liverpool.nsw.gov.au/info/services.htm > > and > > http://www.biztel.com.au/stlukes.htm > > Re Q 4 > > Legal adoption started in NSW in 1923. Before then most "adoptions" were > just arranged between families, possibly through a church. Sometimes a > "contract" was drawn up by a solicitor and the papers could still be with > the solicitor's firm if passed on each time the firm was sold. On occasions > a deed was registered at the NSW Deeds Office in Sydney (in the Land Titles > Office). But this would be the exception. See site > > http://www.lpi.nsw.gov.au/ > > What information is on the adopted son's marriage (if married) and death > certificates. > > cheers > > Grahame > > > on 4/11/03 4:11 PM, Sue Adamson at mosessue@tpg.com.au wrote: > >> Dear List, >> >> l have recently received a death certificate for John BAINES who died at >> Warwick Farm Nr. Liverpool 26th June 1890. Buried St. Luke's Liverpool. >> On the certificate the info was as follows : >> Informant was J. BAINES adopted son, also of Warwick Farm. >> Issue from marriage to Ann MORN was three males living. >> The marriage and three male births do not appear to have been registered in >> any State. >> >> >> Q. How would l find out what was on the headstone. >> >> Q. Are there Parish Registers for NSW as is the case in England. >> >> Q. Is St Luke's Liverpool C of E still standing, as l have searched the >> net >> but can find no trace of it. >> >> Q. How would l find out about the adopted son. >> >> Regards >> Sue Adamson >> Far North Queensland >> >> >> ============================== >> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go >> to: >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Grahame, l have no info on the adopted son. He was the informant on his ' adopted ' Fathers death cert. It's like these people didn't exist. The death cert for John BAINES has heaps of info on it. But nothing gels. It states where he was married and to whom, but no registration. It states there were three living males to the marriage, but no name's and nothing l can find in the States for registration of these births. It states that J. BAINES adopted son was the informant. But can't find anything on him. It states that John BAINES was buried in St. Lukes Liverpool [ which is now a memorial garden ]. But in the list of gravestones prior to it becoming a memorial garden he is not on it. I'm open to any suggestions Sue Hi Sue Re Q 1, have a look at the following web site. http://www.liverpool.nsw.gov.au/info/ldfhs.htm Re Q 2, Even today there are Parish Registers, but generally speaking there is no single repository. The location of registers tends to depend on the religion eg RC, Methodist, C 0f E etc. For example most NSW Methodist registers are in the NSW State Library. Usually the best place to start is to ask the local FH Society or the particular church if still in existence. Re Q 3 look at http://www.liverpool.nsw.gov.au/info/services.htm and http://www.biztel.com.au/stlukes.htm Re Q 4 Legal adoption started in NSW in 1923. Before then most "adoptions" were just arranged between families, possibly through a church. Sometimes a "contract" was drawn up by a solicitor and the papers could still be with the solicitor's firm if passed on each time the firm was sold. On occasions a deed was registered at the NSW Deeds Office in Sydney (in the Land Titles Office). But this would be the exception. See site http://www.lpi.nsw.gov.au/ What information is on the adopted son's marriage (if married) and death certificates. cheers Grahame on 4/11/03 4:11 PM, Sue Adamson at mosessue@tpg.com.au wrote: > Dear List, > > l have recently received a death certificate for John BAINES who died at > Warwick Farm Nr. Liverpool 26th June 1890. Buried St. Luke's Liverpool. > On the certificate the info was as follows : > Informant was J. BAINES adopted son, also of Warwick Farm. > Issue from marriage to Ann MORN was three males living. > The marriage and three male births do not appear to have been registered in > any State. > > > Q. How would l find out what was on the headstone. > > Q. Are there Parish Registers for NSW as is the case in England. > > Q. Is St Luke's Liverpool C of E still standing, as l have searched the net > but can find no trace of it. > > Q. How would l find out about the adopted son. > > Regards > Sue Adamson > Far North Queensland > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi Sue Re Q 1, have a look at the following web site. http://www.liverpool.nsw.gov.au/info/ldfhs.htm Re Q 2, Even today there are Parish Registers, but generally speaking there is no single repository. The location of registers tends to depend on the religion eg RC, Methodist, C 0f E etc. For example most NSW Methodist registers are in the NSW State Library. Usually the best place to start is to ask the local FH Society or the particular church if still in existence. Re Q 3 look at http://www.liverpool.nsw.gov.au/info/services.htm and http://www.biztel.com.au/stlukes.htm Re Q 4 Legal adoption started in NSW in 1923. Before then most "adoptions" were just arranged between families, possibly through a church. Sometimes a "contract" was drawn up by a solicitor and the papers could still be with the solicitor's firm if passed on each time the firm was sold. On occasions a deed was registered at the NSW Deeds Office in Sydney (in the Land Titles Office). But this would be the exception. See site http://www.lpi.nsw.gov.au/ What information is on the adopted son's marriage (if married) and death certificates. cheers Grahame on 4/11/03 4:11 PM, Sue Adamson at mosessue@tpg.com.au wrote: > Dear List, > > l have recently received a death certificate for John BAINES who died at > Warwick Farm Nr. Liverpool 26th June 1890. Buried St. Luke's Liverpool. > On the certificate the info was as follows : > Informant was J. BAINES adopted son, also of Warwick Farm. > Issue from marriage to Ann MORN was three males living. > The marriage and three male births do not appear to have been registered in > any State. > > > Q. How would l find out what was on the headstone. > > Q. Are there Parish Registers for NSW as is the case in England. > > Q. Is St Luke's Liverpool C of E still standing, as l have searched the net > but can find no trace of it. > > Q. How would l find out about the adopted son. > > Regards > Sue Adamson > Far North Queensland > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Thanks Lesley much appreciated Sue Hi Sue, For a cemetery look up try AUSTRALIAN-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com This is a good address to advertise a look up in a cemetery. Good luck. Lesley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Adamson" <mosessue@tpg.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-PENRITH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 9:11 PM Subject: [AUS-NSW-PENRITH] Am l on the right list for Liverpool and Warwick Farm Nr. Liverpool > Dear List, > > l have recently received a death certificate for John BAINES who died at Warwick Farm Nr. Liverpool 26th June 1890. Buried St. Luke's Liverpool. > On the certificate the info was as follows : > Informant was J. BAINES adopted son, also of Warwick Farm. > Issue from marriage to Ann MORN was three males living. > The marriage and three male births do not appear to have been registered in any State. > > > Q. How would l find out what was on the headstone. > > Q. Are there Parish Registers for NSW as is the case in England. > > Q. Is St Luke's Liverpool C of E still standing, as l have searched the net but can find no trace of it. > > Q. How would l find out about the adopted son. > > Regards > Sue Adamson > Far North Queensland > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

5.11.2003 Hello all, I know of a Mr. & Mrs. Bolton on Mulgoa Road, with a son called Miles, who is a Farrier. You may want to call them. They are in the phone book. I am not connected yet seem to get your emails come throuogh my address. Regards, Yvonne reitsma@pnc.com.au ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chenelle" <chenelle@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-NSW-PENRITH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 8:23 AM Subject: [AUS-NSW-PENRITH] Reunion > > Hi Listers, > > I am descended from Sarah Bolton (Agnes Banks-1816) and James Mills. > > My Interests are Jeffriess, Mitchell, Barnett, Mills, Bolton, Smith, Price, Hollier, Sutton, Tuxford, Urquhart, Brown and Barnicoat. > > I would appreciate any information on those families, and also on any reunions. > > Kind Regards, > > Sharron > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > Scanned by PeNiCillin http://safe-t-net.pnc.com.au/ > Scanned by PeNiCillin http://safe-t-net.pnc.com.au/

Hi Sue, For a cemetery look up try AUSTRALIAN-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com This is a good address to advertise a look up in a cemetery. Good luck. Lesley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Adamson" <mosessue@tpg.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-PENRITH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 9:11 PM Subject: [AUS-NSW-PENRITH] Am l on the right list for Liverpool and Warwick Farm Nr. Liverpool > Dear List, > > l have recently received a death certificate for John BAINES who died at Warwick Farm Nr. Liverpool 26th June 1890. Buried St. Luke's Liverpool. > On the certificate the info was as follows : > Informant was J. BAINES adopted son, also of Warwick Farm. > Issue from marriage to Ann MORN was three males living. > The marriage and three male births do not appear to have been registered in any State. > > > Q. How would l find out what was on the headstone. > > Q. Are there Parish Registers for NSW as is the case in England. > > Q. Is St Luke's Liverpool C of E still standing, as l have searched the net but can find no trace of it. > > Q. How would l find out about the adopted son. > > Regards > Sue Adamson > Far North Queensland > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Dear List, l have recently received a death certificate for John BAINES who died at Warwick Farm Nr. Liverpool 26th June 1890. Buried St. Luke's Liverpool. On the certificate the info was as follows : Informant was J. BAINES adopted son, also of Warwick Farm. Issue from marriage to Ann MORN was three males living. The marriage and three male births do not appear to have been registered in any State. Q. How would l find out what was on the headstone. Q. Are there Parish Registers for NSW as is the case in England. Q. Is St Luke's Liverpool C of E still standing, as l have searched the net but can find no trace of it. Q. How would l find out about the adopted son. Regards Sue Adamson Far North Queensland