Hello Lyn, I have done a lot of the Cox family history and they are well documented. However, I have nothing with this particular name. Both family names are linked in more than one place. Herewith is my Cox family web page for your perusal... Cox-Upjohn - www.angelfire.com/rnb/mrbirrell/ Birrell-Kirk - www.electricscotland.com/webclans/atoc/birrell2.html Bostock-Rafferty-Rhodes - http://birrell.1hwy.com/index.htm Irish-Scots - http://matthewbirrell.50megs.com/index.html Montgomery-Down - http://home.talkcity.com/BookmarkBlvd/mrbirrell/ Stokes-Yates-Owen - www.freehomepages.com/mrbirrell "It's nice to be big, BUT you don't have to be big to be nice" said - Harry Secombe. I'm looking for information on William Piper Cox who was Mayor of St Marys in 1897 for a family enquiry. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Lyn Forde

Hi Everyone. I doing my family tree on Stewart. Sophai Harriet Stewart (great grand mother) married Robert Bailey/Bayley in 1856 at Mt. Pleasant NSW .Sophia Harriet Stewart was born abt.1828 in Penrith (South Creek) to John Stewart & Letitla Neith. I would like any info on John Stewart & Letitla Neith Descendants. Thank. Peter Proctor mogulones@ozemail.com.au

Hi Everyone. Can anyone help with infomation on families....Embleton , Lithgow c1840 -1870+ Dykes ,Lithgow, c1840 -1870+ Rosier , Lithgow,c1840 1870+ It is thought there was moves to and fro in areas of Mudgee and Hartley ,Wallerawang and Hassens Wall Also Abraham Myers and wife Sophia ---?--- Emu Plains c1838 +. Thank you, Michael.

Hi all, In the Census of 1828 the "Place" for John Ablett is shown as Kings, Evan. Does anyone have any ideas to where this may relate. Regards, Russell Orchard

I'm looking for information on William Piper Cox who was Mayor of St Marys in 1897 for a family enquiry. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Lyn Forde ===== __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com

I'm looking for information on Henry Page of St Marys for a family enquiry. I'd appreciate any information. Thanks Lyn Forde ===== __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com

I have a Lucy Payne in my tree (nee Goodsall) arrived with her husband and Children then ran off with a convict. Any connections. Julie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lesley Walker" <nationals@iprimus.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-PENRITH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 10:52 PM Subject: [AUS-NSW-PENRITH] Luxford > Hi people, I am Lesley and just thought I would tell you the couple of Surnames I am tracing from down around that area. > Luxford, Witcomb, Beacroft, Horan and Payne. Then any names that marry into them. I can tell you just about all of the St Mary's Magdalene Cemetery is related to me. > If you think you are on the same tree then hay Email me. > ............................................................................ ............................................................................ ................................................. I am tracing these Surnames : Apps, Abbott, Bateman, Beacroft, Catts, Chein, Corsie, Coyle, Foley, Glazier, Goafs, Gray, > Halihan, Horan, Hulks, Jones, Kendal, Lenehan, Luxford, Mantle, MacGillivray, McCaskill, McDonald, McLaughlin, Orchard, > Musto, Newton, O'Neil, Paton, Payne, Reed, Richards, Robertson, Rush, Sarjeant, Self, Sullivan, Tucker, Walker, Ward, > Webb, Williams, Wishart, Witcomb. > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

The Makings of a City Nepean Valley: 200 years of European settlement In 1803 the first land grants were issued at Castlereagh. Penrith City Council and Library are holding a conference to celebrate this important event in our local history. The conference will be held on Saturday 29th March 2003. Mark your diaries! Danielle

Hi Listers, I found a couple of items today. 10 April 1854 [last page, last column] Mr James T Ryan has been instructed to sell by auction at the Commercial Hotel, Penrith on Tuesday, the 18th day of April instant, at 12 o'clock noon, TWO ALLOTMENTS OF LAND, most eligibly situated in the very centre of the flourishing town of Penrith, each having frontage of fifty feet to High Street, on the Great Western Road, adjoining the land in the occupancy of the representatives of the late Rev John Vincent. a more profitable country investment cannot be made, as landed property in this locality is daily rising in value and importance. Also TWO HALF-ACRE ALLOTMENTS OF LAND, being Nos 1 and 2 in the thriving Village of St Marys, South Creek, both having a frontage to the Western Road, the great thoroughfare to Bathurst, Mudgee, Wellington , and the whole of the Western districts. No. 1 being a corner allotment has also the advantage of a frontage to the road leading to Windsor via the South Creek. From the daily increasing traffic through this village, which is the focus of an extensive, wealthy and populous neighbourhood, it bids fair ere long to become one of the most busy and prosperous inland towns in the colony. This is a first-rate investment either for the establishment of business or a snug retreat for the retiring tradesman, combining as it does all the advantages, from its salubrity of climate, abundance of firewood and pure water, a desideratum so desirable in these times of a town and country residence. Title unexceptionable. 11 April 1854 [Page 2 colum 2] EPISCOPAL SCHOOL, PENRITH - Required by the trustees of the Episcopal Church, Penrith, tenders for the erection of an iron room, from thirty to fifty feet long, by eighteen to twenty-five wide. Tenders with a specification of the size and number of lights, to be forwarded to W E Rogers, Esq, the Secretary, will be received and considered on the 13th instant. W E ROGERS, Honorary Secretary. Kristine Wood

Please be aware (if you aren't already) that a new virus has just started doing the rounds. I have had it come through as an attachment to what appears to be Rootsweb Lists, though not lists that I subscribe to. Rootsweb doesn't allow attachments, so if you should receive any files with attachments please be aware and upgrade your virus software. Details of the virus can be found at: http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.bugbear@mm.html Regards, Danielle Embleton Penrith List Administrator

Hello people Help. We can't find a record where our ancestor, Thomas Smith, Penrith came into Australia, supposedly on the Hope in 1840. A researcher has found a record of the barque making 3 voyages to Aust - 1837, 1838, 1839-40. Whilst a passenger list exists for her 1838 voyage (no Tom Smith) records for the other 2 voyages have not survived. We know the 3rd voyage left London on 10 Oct 1839 and arrived in Port Jackson on 21 Feb 1840, Master John J Coombes and carried passengers and merchandise; and sailed to Port Nicholson NZ on 9 May 1840 carrying cattle consisting of 2 Durham bulls, a cow and a calf brought from London. However, what if the young farmer Thomas was employed by the shipping agent or ship owner to be a member of the crew looking after a batch of livestock being sent to Sydney on the "Hope". Such shipping of livestock did happen frequently at that time. Clearly farming experience would be needed for this. Since his passage would be one way it would be ideal for someone wishing to emigrate; they would not show up on the passenger list. Were separate records kept of crew? And if so, has anyone any idea where we can look next, eh? Regards Jac & Laura

Hi people, I am Lesley and just thought I would tell you the couple of Surnames I am tracing from down around that area. Luxford, Witcomb, Beacroft, Horan and Payne. Then any names that marry into them. I can tell you just about all of the St Mary's Magdalene Cemetery is related to me. If you think you are on the same tree then hay Email me. ......................................................................................................................................................................................................... I am tracing these Surnames : Apps, Abbott, Bateman, Beacroft, Catts, Chein, Corsie, Coyle, Foley, Glazier, Goafs, Gray, Halihan, Horan, Hulks, Jones, Kendal, Lenehan, Luxford, Mantle, MacGillivray, McCaskill, McDonald, McLaughlin, Orchard, Musto, Newton, O'Neil, Paton, Payne, Reed, Richards, Robertson, Rush, Sarjeant, Self, Sullivan, Tucker, Walker, Ward, Webb, Williams, Wishart, Witcomb.

Hi Diane, Have you tried contacting the Parramatta Public Library or the Historical Society. Parramatta doesn't fall under the areas covered by this list. Parramatta Library's contacted details can be found at: http://www.parracity.nsw.gov.au/library/ Details of the Parramatta & District Historical Society can be found at: http://www.hotkey.net.au/~parramattahistry/ The Forester's Lodge was probably a subgroup of the Ancient Order of Forester's or the Order of Royal Foresters. They were Friendly Societies, similar to Manchester Unity. I know in the Penrith area that we had the Order of Royal Foresters. Basically they were a benevolent fund - each week their members would pay a fee which entitled them to a certain amount of money each week that they were sick and could not work, a funeral donation to be paid to the widow or family, and a fee paid on the death of a member's wife. Members could pay a little extra each week to secure a doctor and medicine. In Penrith, the groups met every alternate Tuesday in Beatson's Hotel. Hope that helps. Danielle From: Diane Parton <dparton@dot.net.au <mailto:dparton@dot.net.au>> Subject: [AUS-NSW-PENRITH] Lambert's Inn and Forester's Lodge Would anyone know where Lambert's Inn, Parramatta, was in 1863? Also, what was Forester's Lodge, in the same period? William Buckley drowned in the Parramatta River near Lambert's Inn in 1863, after attending a meeting of the Forester's Lodge. Any help would be appreciated. Diane Parton

Just some further info on the Luxford murder in 1876. The Sydney Morning Herald also published an article on the murder in the 3 November 1876 issue - page 5 column 3. The three children were William James Luxford (13 years), George Luxford (7), and Alfred Luxford (4 years). The initial trial was reported in the SMH 11 November 1876 (page 7 column 3) where it was postponed to the following February so that they could ascertain Luxford's state of mind. At his trial in February 1877 Luxford was acquitted on the grounds of insanity...."His Honor accordingly ordered him to be imprisoned until the Queen's pleasure should be known". When he was asked his reasons for murdering his children, Luxford said that he was afraid the children would die of hunger. Those details can be found SMH 20 February 1877 page 3 column 4. Danielle Hi Listers, I found this for a friend of mine. If you would like more information I will pass on an email address. SMH on 3 November 1876. It was in the Telegraphic Messages. 'Penrith Thursday. A man named William Luxford, a wood-splitter, murdered his three sons, by cutting their throats, at Collyton, Rope's Creek, yesterday morning, and then gave himself up to the police.' Kristine Wood

Hi all Does anyone know when the guns were removed from the Penrith and St Marys War Memorials? The Penrith rotunda was demolished sometime between 11 Nov 1972 (Remembrance Day) and Anzac Day 1973. Were the guns still here at that time? The St Marys guns were removed sometime between Jan 1960 and 1981. Does anyone have photos of the guns at either of these memorials? If you can answer yes to any of the above questions, you are a treasure and can assist greatly in filling in some of the blanks. Looking forward to hearing from any one on this matter Best wishes Jan

Hi Listers, I found this for a friend of mine. If you would like more information I will pass on an email address. SMH on 3 November 1876. It was in the Telegraphic Messages. 'Penrith Thursday. A man named William Luxford, a wood-splitter, murdered his three sons, by cutting their throats, at Collyton, Rope's Creek, yesterday morning, and then gave himself up to the police.' Kristine Wood

Hi Listers, In the Sydney Morning Herald 6/7/1849 was this advertisement: "Penrith Flour Mill To Let, that well known Water Mill, known as the Penrith Flour Mill in good working order. Rent moderate. Immediate possession can be given. Apply to Mr R Copeland Lethbridge at Dunheved, Penrith - if by letter, post paid." Kristine Wood

I am researching the Chalker/Charker family At the moment I am trying to find information on Morgan Kelly convict 'Chapman' and Mary English convict 'Catherine'. Their daughter Ellen Kelly married Joseph Henry Chalker at Bringelly in 1837. The 1828 Census records Morgan Kelly as a landholder at Bringelly. I am also trying to locate Rayhill/Wayhill in that district Regards Kerrie Fitzpatrick

Hello listers Been a few queries about Sir John Jamison lately and for those who are searching for dearly departeds a list of 83 persons is listed on - http://www.interment.net/data/aus/nsw/gr_sydney/botany/sirjohn/sir_john.htm Regards Jac

Hi Listers, Remember the item I sent on Maurice O'Connell visiting Parramatta. I found the Supreme Court hearing that he had 'won' in the Sydney Morning Herald 19 July 1839. It was an action of ejectment against Mr Pye and others, brought by the daughters of the late Admiral Bligh and their husbands, to recover possession of land at Parramatta. The one hundred and five acres of land was granted to William Bligh on August 10, 1806 between Kings School and the Female Factory. It was proven that the late Admiral Bligh died in 1816 and had 6 daughters, Harriet, the wife of Mr H M Barker, Mary, Lady O'Connell, Mrs Elizabeth Bligh, widow, Miss Jane, Miss Francis and Miss Ann Bligh. The reason for the proceedings were that Mr Pye and others were living on the land and had made improvements. Interestingly, the man from the Colonial Secretaries office was willing to tender certain correspondence which had taken place rejecting the claim to Admiral Bligh, "but both parties appeared to be afraid of it, and therefore it was not produced." Jury found for the plaintiff, one shilling in damages. Kristine Wood