Hi Maureen, Have you been intouch with Margot GIRLE in Canberra..........girlem@pcug.org.au From what I know of this family, there were 2 GENTZ who married 2 GIRLEs in the area of Little Plain west of Inverell, my husband's MEYER family are also connected to the GENTZ family. Regards Jenny Lake Macquarie NSW -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/165 - Release Date: 09/11/2005