Hello Lynne, Building on Di's comments below, I believe this is a likely scenario: Birth: SURNAME MOORE GIVEN NAME(S) GORDON E INDEX YEAR 1911 MOTHER OLIVE M PLACE OF REGISTRATION INVERELL REGISTRATION YEAR 1911 REGISTRATION NUMBER 16619 Soon after, a likely marriage of Olive M MOORE: SURNAME MOORE GIVEN NAME(S) OLIVE M SEX FEMALE INDEX YEAR 1913 SPOUSE SURNAME LEADER SPOUSE GIVEN NAME(S) ARTHUR SPOUSE SEX MALE PLACE OF REGISTRATION INVERELL REGISTRATION YEAR 1913 REGISTRATION NUMBER 6748 Olive's death index = 6529/1963 LEADER OLIVE MARGARET GEORGE EMILY BEST PARRAMATTA Parents are George MOORE and Emily Best BURTENSHAW. Finally, Gordon's marriage to Ruth: 16733/1932 MOORE OR LEADER GORDON E HARRIS RUTH B INVERELL BDM shows 3 "other" children of Arthur and Olive: Walter 1913 #32006 Eileen A 1915 #46452 Lorna M 1918 #7560 RYERSON index shows: LEADER,Gordon Edwin Anthony 24MAY1991 80 Death late of Palm Beach, Qld, formerly of Clayton, Vic 01JUN1991 SMH Hope this is the right one, Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "SPECTRA r" <spectra_r@hotmail.com> To: <AUS-NSW-NEW-ENGLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 7:14 PM Subject: RE: [NE] Post 1905 birth lookup - LEADER > Hi Lynne, > > I couldn't find a Gordon but there is a Leslie born Inverell 1909 to Henry > and Eliza (Reg. 26059). I'd say this would be Henry Leader who was born > in 1868 to James Leader and Anne White. Eliza was born 1876 to Henry > Austin and Sarah Pasterfield. > > I did a little bit of research on the Leader family a couple of years ago > for a friend of mine who is a Leader. There is also a service record for > a Gordon Edwin Anthony Leader born 1911 at Inverell. He gives his next of > kin as Ruth Leader. May be worth looking at. > > Cheers, > Di > > > >>From: "lynneg" <lyngen@tpg.com.au> >>To: AUS-NSW-NEW-ENGLAND-L@rootsweb.com >>Subject: [NE] Post 1905 birth lookup - LEADER >>Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 17:22:33 +1000 >> >>Hello all, >> >>Could I please ask for some kind person to check the CD to see if there is >>a birth for the following person around 1911 >> >>LEADER Gordon Leslie Anthony born Inverell. >> >>Especially interested in parents and if possible any siblings. >> >>Thanking you >> >>Lynne G. >>

-----Original Message----- From: Margaret Staker [mailto:margaret.staker@bigpond.com] Sent: Friday, 28 July 2006 10:10 AM To: morcar Subject: Re: [NE] The Dog Trap Hi Carol ,Dog Trap was like a little village,but I don't know if it came down as far as the Museum.It was further along There is a housing estate there now.I think it was changed to Fernhill as there is still the main rd called Fernhill Rd ,our aunt use to live there When Dad joined up for war his address was Dog Trap.Where the museum is now there use to be a large brick making place.The water hole was filled in & Mitre Ten built their hardware store there but closed down in a couple of years.Who is this lady looking for at Dog Trap.Margaret. ----- Original Message ----- From: "morcar" <morcar@idl.com.au> To: "Margart Abberton Staker" <margaret.staker@bigpond.com> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 7:00 PM Subject: FW: [NE] The Dog Trap > Any idea Margaret > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dianne Myers [mailto:dmyers@exemail.com.au] > Sent: Monday, 24 July 2006 11:58 AM > To: AUS-NSW-NEW-ENGLAND-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NE] The Dog Trap > > > Hi > I am hoping that someone who is familiar with Inverell can tell me if the > land that the Inverell Transport Museum is on was once know as "The Dog > Trap"? If not has anyone heard of this place near Inverell? Thankyou. > > Regards, Dianne -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: 28/07/2006

Hi Lynne, I couldn't find a Gordon but there is a Leslie born Inverell 1909 to Henry and Eliza (Reg. 26059). I'd say this would be Henry Leader who was born in 1868 to James Leader and Anne White. Eliza was born 1876 to Henry Austin and Sarah Pasterfield. I did a little bit of research on the Leader family a couple of years ago for a friend of mine who is a Leader. There is also a service record for a Gordon Edwin Anthony Leader born 1911 at Inverell. He gives his next of kin as Ruth Leader. May be worth looking at. Cheers, Di >From: "lynneg" <lyngen@tpg.com.au> >To: AUS-NSW-NEW-ENGLAND-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [NE] Post 1905 birth lookup - LEADER >Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 17:22:33 +1000 > >Hello all, > >Could I please ask for some kind person to check the CD to see if there is >a birth for the following person around 1911 > >LEADER Gordon Leslie Anthony born Inverell. > >Especially interested in parents and if possible any siblings. > >Thanking you > >Lynne G. > > >==== AUS-NSW-NEW-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== > To see what other AUS mailing lists there are go to >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/AUS > >============================== >View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >

Hi Lynne, No Gordon Leader but there is a Leslie Leader b. Inverell in1909, Reg. no.26059.His parents were Henry and Eliza. Their other children were: Harold 1897/ 22472 Clara 1899/ 12703 Harriet 1903/ 12720 Alfred 1905/ 13889 Cecil 1907/ 14183 Bert 1911/ 28906 Mabel 1913/ 20220 Roy 1917/ 35160 There are also several children born to Charles and Esther M. Leader in Inverell in this period, plus one daughter to John and Alice, three children to Arthur and Olive M., and one son in 1918 to Harold and Margaret F. None of these children's names are anything like your Gordon Leslie Anthony. Let me knoe if you want more details of any of these. HTH Judy. lynneg wrote: >Hello all, > >Could I please ask for some kind person to check the CD to see if there is a birth for the following person around 1911 > >LEADER Gordon Leslie Anthony born Inverell. > >Especially interested in parents and if possible any siblings. > > >

Hello all, Could I please ask for some kind person to check the CD to see if there is a birth for the following person around 1911 LEADER Gordon Leslie Anthony born Inverell. Especially interested in parents and if possible any siblings. Thanking you Lynne G.

Greetings from the "Coral Sea Coast" (Lat 17.5s Long 146.1e) Hi to All, I seek any information or contacts please for the TICKLE family of Dungog via Newcastle, New South Wales. John and Ann TICKLE nee Cole arrived from Devon, England and settled in Dungog in 1857. Their descendants have since spread throughout New South Wales and some to the Quirindi, Werris Creek, Murrurundi and Glen Innes districts. There was also a branch (MASTERS) that finished up near Quilpie in Queensland. And may your opportunities be taken Dean Newman, North Queensland Australia. "As time goes by" kenyon@znet.net.au "Old Deans never die - they just lose their faculties"

Hi I am hoping that someone who is familiar with Inverell can tell me if the land that the Inverell Transport Museum is on was once know as "The Dog Trap"? If not has anyone heard of this place near Inverell? Thankyou. Regards, Dianne

Hi List I am seeking contact with any one else who may be researching the above family. regards Faye

Dear Listers We are going away up the coast fishing . Will have minimal Net access so have arranged for Sue on sue@gil.com.au to baby sit my mailing lists Please make her welcome ! Will be back in a couple of weeks Bye MargM List Admin Sydney, New England, Hunter Valley, Central Coast , Australia Aus-Usa lists

Dear Listers A super sleuth posted this just now on the Hunter Valley list so thought I'd pass it on . Go check out http://www.sl.nsw.gov.au/databases/fromhomefaq.cfm Bye MargM List Admin Sydney, New England, Hunter Valley, Central Coast , Australia lists

Hi, The intent of the land policy of the colonial government from 1788 on was to promote the self-sufficiency of the colony by the system of quit-rent or the so-called free grants of land. The applicant furnished to the government of the day a letter supporting his application from the Secretary of State for the Colonies. Then depending upon his means he was granted or promised up to a maximum of 2560 acres or four square miles. He in turn had to fulfill conditions of improvement to the land such as buildings and fences. The land had to be cultivated over a period of seven years to a value calculated by multiplying his holding size in acres by 20 and then times two pence; a value for a holding of 2560 acres of £426.13s.4d. At the end of the seven years the landholder could apply for his title deeds. He then over a period of twenty years paid an annual quit rent determined by the number of acres times two pence which in the case of a holding of 2560 acres amounted to £21 13s 4d. This ‘free land’ policy continued until 1831 when the sale of land by public auction was introduced. The 1831 land regulations provided for reserve prices for the land set by the government. Prices ranged from a minimum of 5/- per acre in 1831, 12/- in 1839 to £1.0.0 in 1842. The proceeds from the sales were used to provide a fund for new immigrants. The passage of the ‘Squatters’ Act of 1846 – 47 replaced the system of annual tenure and gave to the pastoral industry beyond the ‘limits of location’ a fixity of tenure , albeit only from eight to fourteen years but during that period only he could purchase the land. In 1861 Sir John Robertson introduced his ‘free selection before survey’ Act. Robertson’s act gave selectors the right to select a living area in any Crown Land, leased or unleased. A ‘living’ area was from 40 to 320 acres with an obligation to live on the property for at least three years. The purchase price of £1 was payable by a deposit of 25% and the balance almost at will with interest at 5 %. The selector also had a requirement to effect improvements at £1 per acre. Title was then given provided that the conditions regarding improvements and residency were being fulfilled. These small farmers were known as ‘selectors’ and the land as ‘CP’ or ‘Conditional Purchase’ blocks. However it should be noted that Robertson’s Act did not replace the sale of crown land by auction, which continued to provide an important source of revenue. Indeed in the period after the passage of Robinson Free Selection Land Act intended to ‘unlock the land’ the amount of freehold held by the big grazers and pastoral companies rather than ‘settlers’ actually increased. As Manning Clark points out, of over 170,000 applications for selections between 1861 and 1880 only about 20,000 or 12% had gained title by 1880. Robertson’s Act remained in force in principle for twenty-three years, but in 1884 pastoral leases was exempted from selection. Hth Terry

Hi fellow listers, Just tidying up my tree and hoping that someone may have information re the Marshall, Wilson, Key families from Red Range area new Glen Innes. Thank you in anticipation. Regards, Laraine

Hi Dianne, *Crown Grant*: Grant of land title by the Crown; a deed of grant issued in the name of the then current monarch conveying to the grantee some portion of land in fee simple. A Crown grant is the first alienation of crown land and often excludes or reserves from the grant some part of the land such as minerals or roads, so that those parts remain vested in the Crown. In simple terms a Crown Grant was land purchased from the Crown, usually this was new releases of govt owned land. *Alienation of Land* Power of the owner to dispose of his interest in real or personal property. The transference of ownership of land. *Crown Title*: Unalienated land, vested in the Crown under the direct care and control of the Minister Administering the Crown Lands Act 1989, not held under Torrens title system. *Conditional Purchase & or Lease* Purchase & or Lease of rural land granted to applicants at low rentals *on condition that certain capital works are carried out within stated* *periods*. On the completion of the original conditions and other formalities and the payment of a total sum the land could be purchased outright. If the conditions of the lease or purchase were not me, the lease or purchase was forfeited. hth Helen On 21/07/06, Dianne Myers <dmyers@exemail.com.au> wrote: > > > Hi > Could someone help me out by explaining the difference between land > purchased under Crown Grant and land purchased under Conditional Purchase? > Thankyou. > > Regards, Dianne > > > > > ==== AUS-NSW-NEW-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== > Need Help ? > Try http://www.raogk.org/listing.htm > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Hi Could someone help me out by explaining the difference between land purchased under Crown Grant and land purchased under Conditional Purchase? Thankyou. Regards, Dianne

Hi I recently obtained a copy of my 2 x Great Grandfather Andrew MOORE''S Will. The will was written in 1885 and I am hoping that someone on this list will recognise some of the following names mentioned in the will. As far as I know all names are associated with the Inverell area. Ann SCHOFIELD (de facto wife of Andrew at the time) 3 girls that he names as his daughters Lily MOORE, Maude MOORE and Ada MURRAY, Rosanna MURCHIE and a son in law Archibald George MURCHIE. Also John Riley MOORE and Alexander Thomas MOORE, relationship of these two not stated, and Robert MACKIE who was leasing a property belonging to Andrew at Rob Roy. The names are MOORE, SCHOFIELD, MURRAY, MURCHIE and MACKIE. Thankyou Regards, Dianne

Searching for 3 of the sons of Thomas and Emma Bourne: George b. 1843 d. 1915 at Quirindi Was George a bachelor or did he marry Elizabeth Boon, Agnes Thomson or Anne Burch or ??? William b. 1846 d. ?? Don't think he married Martha Carswell or Johanna Bowcock. Seems to have disappeared. Did he go to Queensland? Henry b. ?? d. 1933 at Nowra Did he marry Charlotte Gardner at Shoalhaven?? Many thanks for any help Beth

Hello Rose Marie The Gazetteer Of the Aust Colonies 1848 by W H Wells SBN7240 9983 2 Has entry TRINKEY In the district of Liverpool Plains, on Blackwater Creek, 60 miles from Murrurundi. Loaders station Regards John Shirley & John Smith s641025@hunterlink.net.au Maitland Area Lower Hunter Valley NSW Australia -----Original Message----- From: Rose-Marie [mailto:rmwells@serv.net.au] Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 2:32 PM To: AUS-NSW-NEW-ENGLAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NE] Trinkey NSW Does anyone have any info on this old town or area west of Tamworth??? Or was it the name of a property perhaps. Many thanks Rose-Marie Qld Researching. Burke. SENNETT (all spellings) NSW 1860s onwards. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/359 - Release Date: 8/06/2006 ==== AUS-NSW-NEW-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== Found a good source for New England info ? Please tell everyone about it ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Hi Rose-Marie, The Geographical Names Board website http://www.gnb.nsw.gov.au/ lists 2 Parishes & a State Forest by this name; 1. Parish of Trinkey in the County of Pottinger, LGA - Liverpool Plains 2. Parish of Trinkey in the County of Stapylton, LGA - Moree Plains 3. Trinkey State Forest in the Parish of Tamerang also in the County of Pottinger, LGA - Liverpool Plains Origin:(1) These names originated in the name of TRINKEY run. Formed before 1877. Named after the run/station. Origin:(2) These names originated in the name of TRINKEY run. No. 177. History: Trinkey run was formed in the 1830's by Wiseman (Telfer M/L A 2376 and Quirindi Herald Souvenir M/L 991.8/H). George T. Loder claimed lease for Trinkey, 12,800 acres in 1848 (G.G. 1848 page 1238). Newton, Kent hth Helen On 11/06/06, Rose-Marie <rmwells@serv.net.au> wrote: > > Does anyone have any info on this old town or area west of Tamworth??? > Or was it the name of a property perhaps. > > Many thanks > > Rose-Marie Qld > > Researching. Burke. SENNETT (all spellings) NSW 1860s onwards. > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/359 - Release Date: 8/06/2006 > > > ==== AUS-NSW-NEW-ENGLAND Mailing List ==== > Found a good source for New England info ? Please tell everyone about it > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

There was or is a Trinkey property, Liverpool Plains..............not sure if its the same one you are looking for. Kaye www.bananatv.com/familytreechecklist.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rose-Marie" <rmwells@serv.net.au> To: <AUS-NSW-NEW-ENGLAND-L@rootsweb.com>

Does anyone have any info on this old town or area west of Tamworth??? Or was it the name of a property perhaps. Many thanks Rose-Marie Qld Researching. Burke. SENNETT (all spellings) NSW 1860s onwards. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/359 - Release Date: 8/06/2006