Hi Robert One of my side-line interests (for the moment) is my husband's family tree. He is a descendant of Alice Ann GRANTHAM born. 27 Oct 1810 died 9 Jan 1891. She married Frederick Joseph HARVEY and their daughter Sarah Ann HARVEY married William PHILP at Dungog NSW. Sarah died at Uralla 3rd May 1915. I really don't know anything about the Grantham Family, as I'm still pretty tied up in my own research. Viv ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2002 12:00 PM Subject: AUS-NSW-NEW-ENGLAND-D Digest V02 #20

-----Original Message----- From: Brial [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, 7 July 2002 9:34 To: 'NSW - NEW ENGLAND' Subject: Re: MARSHALL / CREER / KROGER / WILSON - GLEN INNES AREA Hi! I am new to your list. I am attempting to learn more about my ancestors mentioned above. My gggrandfather was John Marshall. He married Mary Wilson in 1862 at `Wellingrove' via Glen Innes. Mary's sister Margaret Wilson married Johan Kroger / John Creer. Story has it that both John Marshall and Johan Kroger and a third person John Pascoe all jumped ship together. I have not been able to confirm this although I have found individuals of these names (except Kroger) jumping ship but not from the same ship (as family have been led to believe). If anyone is researching these names I would love to hear from you. Kate Brial

My NE interests (so far) Henry BROWN born 1863 Balmain died 1936 Tamworth Alfred W. BROWN born Wingham 1869 married Rebecca FLETCHER 1895 Glen Innes. Children Beryl I H b. 1897 Glen Innes married Harold KRAMER 1921 Manilla Ivy T b. 1900 Glen Innes Alfred J H b. 1903 Grafton married Doris LIDDY 1923 Manilla Any connections Mark Blundell Braidwood NSW

Hello List, I am searching the above names in the following areas, Murrurundi- Tenterfield- Tamworth. I would be very pleased to hear from anyone with the same interests. Regards Lorraine Rotorua, New Zealand

Hi folks, my interests in the New England area are the Grantham family which moved to Manilla around 1908, any people related to them, and the family of George Herbert Legge which lived at Glen Innes. Robert Heal

Hi Charlotte Yep, had been doing that, got through the Births and Deaths, but when I tried the Marriages, it refused to let me enter any dates at all. (actually I search in 9 yr batches) Have since rebooted, and it seems to have fixed the problem just wondered if anyone else had had the same problem...it is a new one for me. Was just curious......if I have to reboot..so be it....!!! With the Gremlins that live within my PC want to behave this way...fine!!!.......lol Thanks for for your reply. <<<I've never had this problem but it's worth remembering you can only search in 10 year batches - and births can only be searched up to 1945. Maybe this might help.>>> Peg R [email protected] Happiness comes through doors you didn't even know you left open.

Hi Peg, I've never had this problem but it's worth remembering you can only search in 10 year batches - and births can only be searched up to 1945. Maybe this might help. Charlotte ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peg Rampling" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, 3 July 2002 2:31 Subject: [NE] > Anyone else having problems typing in dates on NSW BDM's?? > I got the Births and Deaths done.....but it will not allow any dates to be > typed in for Marriages....wondering is all?? > > Peg R > [email protected] > Happiness comes through doors you didn't even know you left open. > > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Anyone else having problems typing in dates on NSW BDM's?? I got the Births and Deaths done.....but it will not allow any dates to be typed in for Marriages....wondering is all?? Peg R [email protected] Happiness comes through doors you didn't even know you left open.

Great news - I have already included parts of that area in my research queries as the "Armidale District" was my territory as a PMG Technician. But it also included Walgett and went up to Tenterfield. Yes a map would be handy! > >We are going to stretch the New England area to >include Moree > > > The New England list will include the districts >of Tamworth, Armidale, Glen Innes . Then west to >Inverell, Warialda and Moree . And south from >Inverell to Bingara and Baraba > There is a distinct possibility of a map of NSW >going on line marking out which list covers which >area > > > Marg MORTERS >NSW New England List Admin > >______________________________ -- Frank Cardiff East Gosford NSW 2250 Australia Genealogy is an itch to find out where you came from.

Can anyone provide some details on the following most likely from the gravestone at Barraba. James Joseph Charlton died 9/6/1926 There was some controversy on his death probate on the will was contested by a wife and child although non recorded on NSW BDM and then neither was his first marriage to a Rebecca Culley in Gunnedah 18/3/1877. Probably the gravestone may provide an answer or 2, maybe the "wife" buried beside him. Maybe someone has the story. All I have is family rumours. Grandma so hated her father she never referred to by name other than JJ, on her mother death certificate she put his correct name as husband. Bill & Rønæ Pursey Email [email protected] Queensland, Australia Mail Protection by Norton Internet Security 2002 Any mail sent by this sender is confidential thus is intended for the addressee only and cannot be onforwarded or redirected without the express permission of this sender.

Dear Marg Pleased to learn of your unplanned decision. All the best things are planned like that. Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: "margm" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2002 10:47 PM Subject: [NE] Will be a wider coverage for this list > Dear Listers. > > A couple of other genes and I who host some NSW > mailing lists have been sorting out parts of NSW > :-) > We are going to stretch the New England area to > include Moree > > Should have probably planned this better but this > list just happened with no planning at all > ........So we have had to do a wee bit of tweaking > > The New England list will include the districts > of Tamworth, Armidale, Glen Innes . Then west to > Inverell, Warialda and Moree . And south from > Inverell to Bingara and Baraba > There is a distinct possibility of a map of NSW > going on line marking out which list covers which > area > > Happy Hunting > > Bye > > Marg MORTERS > NSW New England List Admin > >

Hi Ann, There were no Borthwicks listed as having served in the 33rd Battalion. A quick search of the WW1 nominal role at the Australian War Memorial site produced 22 of them. 2 were killed in action and the rest returned to Australia. One of these however died of wounds. http://www.awm.gov.au/database/133.asp A search of the national Archives lists 32 Borthwicks. You gave me no first names do I could not search further for you. Of the 32 these 2 came from the NE area. It looks like they are father and son. * Borthwick Wilfred Paterson : SERN DEPOT : POB Inverell NSW : POE Inverell NSW : NOK F Borthwick William Murray * Borthwick William Murray : SERN 63717 : POB Tamworth NSW : POE Sydney NSW : NOK W Borthwick Lillian The address for national Archives is http://naa12.naa.gov.au/ You need to register to log on but that is free. Once registered you go to record search. In key words put Borthwick In Dates put 1914-1919 In reference Numbers put b2455 In search select all Hit search and up will come 32 records If any are yours, click on the control symbol hyperlink. That takes you to a screen where you have the option of requesting a digital copy. There is no charge for the copy to be scanned but takes about a month. Then once that is completed you can visit the site again and a complete service record will be available for you to access. There is a wealth of information in a soldier's service record. Hope this helps. If I can do anything else for you, please let me know. Regards Isabelle -----Original Message----- From: Ann Carson [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 6:39 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NE] Lookup WW1 Soldiers Hello Isabelle Thank you for your generous offer. I would be very grateful for any BORTHWICK details in your book. I am doing a world one name study but my own Borthwick family was from the New England area. Regards Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Isabelle Alaban" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 1:49 PM Subject: [NE] Lookup WW1 Soldiers > Hi All, > > I have "Never a Backward Step" the official book of the First 33rd battalion > AIF. It lists all of the soldiers in that Battalion and their fate. The > book sometimes lists next of kin as well as home towns and age on > enlistment. The majority of them travelled to enlisted and train in > Armidale NSW and generally came from New England and Northern NSW. > > The composition of the 4 companies in the battalion was generally as > follows: > A Company was composed of men from Armidale and Tamworth > B Company was composed of men from Walcha, Uralla, Barraba, Bingara, and > Manilla. > C Company was composed of men from Narrabri, Moree and Inverell > D company was composed of men from Glen Innes, Guyra and Tenterfield > > I am happy to do look-ups for anyone. If you lost track of a male family > member from about 1915, it could be that they, like my grandfather, went to > "do their duty". > > The battalion departed Australia in May 1916 aboard the HMAT Marathon. They > served in France and suffered some of the heaviest casualties numbers of the > war. While the loss was tragic, I am grateful to all these young men and am > happy to help anyone who can claim them. > > Isabelle > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1 237 > >

Hello Marg Thank you for including these other towns to the list, as my family spread out to this area after settling in Tamworth, then up to Tingha, Inverell then out to Warialda, Bingara and Moree. From Moree they even had some of their children across the border in Queensland. Searching for SWINDELL, NEEVES, LUXFORD, KAY, UNDERWOOD, STARK, ROCKSTROH Regards Alan [email protected] Alan Eade

Hi I have the above family in the Tamworth area. Does anyone have any connections or further information? James SKELTON m Ann ROBINSON in Maitland Children - Ann Jane b1854 Maitland, William b1858 Mudgee James I. b1860 Tamworth Maria Central Coast NSW Australia

Hi all I am new to this list, I am tracing the family of THOMAS TAYLOR who married CHRISTINA SCHEILER. Thomas was born on the ship "Brothers approx 1840 or 1841. His parents were JOSIAH TAYLOR AND ANN MELLING. CHRISTINA WAS BORN 1846 WOLLMERSCHIED NASSAU GERMANY and her parents were JODOCUS SCHEILER AND CHRISTINA ZINGERLING. I think Thomas and Christina had 13 children on of them being CHARLES OSMUND TAYLOR born BRAIDWOOD 1871 DIED PARKES. Charles married MARTHA BELL ON 13TH MARCH 1905. Charles Osmund is my husbands great grandfather. Is there any connection with anyone. Louise Taylor nee Delaney Dubbo

Hello Marg That site should be http://mysite.freeserve.com/webtabgarner Regards Alan [email protected] Alan Eade

Dear Listers. A couple of other genes and I who host some NSW mailing lists have been sorting out parts of NSW :-) We are going to stretch the New England area to include Moree Should have probably planned this better but this list just happened with no planning at all ........So we have had to do a wee bit of tweaking The New England list will include the districts of Tamworth, Armidale, Glen Innes . Then west to Inverell, Warialda and Moree . And south from Inverell to Bingara and Baraba There is a distinct possibility of a map of NSW going on line marking out which list covers which area Happy Hunting Bye Marg MORTERS NSW New England List Admin

Hello to all on this new Mail list. I seek some historical information on "Bald Blair" near Armidale. The reason I seek is that I descend from the Athertons of Atherton Tablelands etc in Queensland. According to the family history the Athertons left Blackrod, Lancashire in 1844 and left ship "Briton" in Newcastle after a short stop at Sydney. Appears they were a family of some wealth as arrived at "Bald Blair", but how and when they acquired and arrived is not that clear, as nothing is said in the book about the 1844-1856 years. 1856 a couple of the sons (James and John) overlanded sheep to a new property "Rosewood" near Mt Morgan, Qld. It would appear the rest of the family followed shortly after. The family then owned various properties around Mareeba, Mackay, Clifton etc. Along with others started the Plane Creek Sugar Mill in Sarina (now owned by CSR). The information I seek is. a.. Where is Bald Blair exactly? b.. Is there any history as to ownership around the 1850's? c.. Is there any local history in regards to the Atherton's? I am quite to supply the small amount of detail I have re the family in Armidale thus we may eventually get a history of the Atherton family in New South Wales. Bill & Rønæ Pursey Email [email protected] Queensland, Australia Mail Protection by Norton Internet Security 2002 Any mail sent by this sender is confidential thus is intended for the addressee only and cannot be onforwarded or redirected without the express permission of this sender.

Greetings to All I am looking for Pages who originated from Joshua the convict in Van diemen's Land arriving in 1842. He and his wife moved to the Bendigo goldfields and their sons in turned moved up to the Coonamble district thru Narrandera. Looking for descendants who may have spread to the New England Area cheers Peter

Dear Listers Check out http://mysite/freeserve.com/webtabgarner I found this on the London list . Looks very useful......... Bye Marg Morters Beautiful Central Coast of NSW Australia