Bev, I was intrigued by your post so I checked my NSW BDM CD's and still did not find an entry for George VENESS. It could be possible that Mary had George before she married Daniel and then he was brought up as Daniel's child. I have a couple of instances like this in a couple of branches. I did however find the following entries which may be of interest to you. Marriage: Mary J CUSH 1865 SAMUEL Edward VENEP (say Samuel and Daniel out loud with a strong accent) Tamworth 3269 Birth: Name: CUSH Mary J Year: 1842 Parents: John/Susanna Denomination: Roman Catholic Place of Reg: Newcastle Reg No: V18422707 162A Also the following siblings for the above Mary. CUSH Margaret 1844 John/Susan Roman Catholic East Maitland/Maitland/West Maitland V18443040(8) 121B CUSH John 1848 John/Susan Roman Catholic Singleton V18481868 67 CUSH Thomas 1850 John/Susan Roman Catholic Singleton V18501869 67 I also found on the Sate Records site the following entry for assisted immigrants. VENESS George 26 Harbinger 1849 2135,2459 VENESS Mary S 25 VENESS John G 1 Should read across as surname, name, age, ship, year, reel number. Cheers, Kate Cunningham Wellington NZ

Hi List, Anyone know of the McKinley Family of Armidale in the 1880s. James Patrick m Alice Mary nee Blanch, children Ethel May, Maud Mary, Mary Elizabeth, Ceclia, Florence, Louisa, Pearl, Thelma and Keven. Anne

To the List Hi everyone,just like to add to the list to ask if anyone would of heard of the McILvenie family. Douglas is the name of my father,he has one living sister Dawn and another sister Sue [dec], Alexander or by the nic name of [Sandy][dec],and their parents Ivy and Alexander. My Grand Parents Ivy and Alexander lived in West Tamworth from around 1925 till 1939,when they moved to Parramatta. I would be very interested in any information as my father is very ill and this would lift his spirits up. -- Warm Regards, Carol Bull. mailto:[email protected]

I am researching the following, LORD - Ronald St Legar Lord married Marguerite Benwell Mills in BOOMI in 1939. EASLEA - in Tenterfield 1878 (maybe earlier) to 1888. Worked on Barney Downs Station. Hoping someone may be able to assist Jenny E

Hi Listers, I am new to the list - live in Qld and am researching VENESS in the Manilla/Tamworth area. My Great Aunt Lily Gregg married George A VENESS in 1894 at Boulia in Qld. George's occupation was Mail Contractor. Children, all born in Manilla, Elsie Maud 1895, Cyril Arthur 1896 and Doris 1897. Lily died in 1900. George "Arthur" VENESS in the family bible, but "Albert" on the Marriage Certificate, was born c1869 s/o Daniel Edward VENESS and Mary Jane CUSH. There does not appear to be an entry for his birth in the BDM index for NSW. His siblings and their spouses, as recorded in the BDM index for NSW - Edward J born 1866 died 1933. Maude H born 1871. Arthur Thomas born 1873 married Isobel H BUSHELL 1897. Harold C born 1877 married Muriel GASCOIGNE 1910. Charlotte Emily born 1879. Henry William born 1881 married Minnie FITZGERALD 1910. Norman Stephen D born 1883 died 1892. Beatrice M L born 1886. There is a marriage for a George A VENESS and Mary E COUGHLAN in 1906, registered at Tamworth. Is this a second marriage for my George A VENESS? Is there anyone on the list researching this family, who could confirm this for me. Looking forward to making connections with other Veness researchers. Bev Kronk

Hi Julie Who were the Jones & Ward's that married into the Hockley's, I have both from the Armidale area. Lynnette Central Coast ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark and Julie Roberts" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 5:24 PM Subject: [NE] HOCKLEY families > Hi, > I am new to this list and love to hear from anyone connected to the HOCKLEY family. > My greatx2 grandmother married into this family. > Her name is CHARLOTTE ADAMSON nee WILLIS. > She married EDMUND HOCKLEY 1834-1916.from wandsworth,guyra shire[ollera and tinga]. > They were both widowed from Braidwood.NSW at the time. > Edmund and 1st wife Hannah SMITH [1835-1889.died braidwood.nsw] > They had several children, all in Armidale.nsw. > Possible Armidale area families married into the HOCKLEY's. > WARD. > JONES. > DAWSON > RUFUS. > EDMONDS. > BLINKSELL.[queanbeyan.nsw.] > JONES.[broken hill] > TIA. > Julie.R. gosford.nsw. > > ______________________________

Hello Julie I have John Hockley in my family tree, although in my database his father is recorded as Edwin Hockley who married Hannah Smith. John married (not mine but) my first cousin's g-g-grandfather's first cousin, Sarah Edmonds on 26 June 1883 at Armidale, St. Peter's Church of England, NSW. They had some children, then after Sarah died, John married my, and my first cousin's, g-g-g-grandmother's sister, Maria Turner, in 1902 at Armidale. Regards Alan [email protected] Alan Eade

Hi, I am new to this list and love to hear from anyone connected to the HOCKLEY family. My greatx2 grandmother married into this family. Her name is CHARLOTTE ADAMSON nee WILLIS. She married EDMUND HOCKLEY 1834-1916.from wandsworth,guyra shire[ollera and tinga]. They were both widowed from Braidwood.NSW at the time. Edmund and 1st wife Hannah SMITH [1835-1889.died braidwood.nsw] They had several children, all in Armidale.nsw. Possible Armidale area families married into the HOCKLEY's. WARD. JONES. DAWSON RUFUS. EDMONDS. BLINKSELL.[queanbeyan.nsw.] JONES.[broken hill] TIA. Julie.R. gosford.nsw.

Here are the surnames from M to R from my collection of grave photos. I do not have all the graves with these names on them, in some cases, only one. More than happy to provide names and send if anybody is interested in the following families. M Maloney, Manley, Marr, Martin, Mason, Maunder, McClelland, McCoy, McCulluch, McDonald, McFeat, McGlinchey, McIlveen, McKinnon, McLean, McLoughlin, McPhee, McMullin, Meincke, Miller, Mills, Mitchell, Morris, Morrison, Muller, Murphy, Mychael N Nash, Nettle, Newman, Ninness O Oates, Odgers, Orman P and Q Pankhurst, Parker, Parkins, Parr, Parsons, Partridge, Paull, Phillips, Phoo, Pinkerton, Plunkett, Poetschka, Power, Prefrement, Prisk, Pullman, Quinn R Rackham, Radnidge, Ralston, Reichel, Roberts, Robson, Rock, Roe, Rossington, Rowlinson, Roylance, Rule, Ryan If you are interested, please reply direct to [email protected] Hoping that this may assist other researchers Carol Dale

Hi, Merry Christmas, I am new to the list and am researching the Jackes & McKinley families of Armidale and Kellys Plains. Anne

The postie has just delivered my copy of this . Nice extra Christmas Pressie But no time to play with it now Merry Christmas everyone and Happy hunting in 2003 Bye MargM List Admin Sydney, New England, Central Coast and AUS-USA lists

Hi all I am following up a connection to my Hornery/Honnery Family. A grandaughter of the founders (Peter OMERY and Martha GROVER) of this family - Amelia GROVES, married Patrick COSS in Currangandi in 1871. They had 9 children, 7 of whom were registered in Warialda. Patrick died in Moree in 1899. Amelia then married Jospeh HOGG in 1905 in Bingara. Amelia died in 1907. All I currently know about this family is below, I would appreciate any help with furthering my knowledge of this family. Patrick Coss (1850-1899) and Amelia Angelina Groves (1854-1907) marr 1871 in Currangandi Children 1. Alice Jane 1872 reg in Warialda, NSW marr 1889 in Bingara to George Henry Singleton RILEY 2. John Thomas 1874 b St George QLD 3. May Sarah 1876 reg in Warialda, NSW 4. Mary Adah 1877 b QLD 5. James Joseph 1879 reg in Warialda, NSW marr 1905 in Bingara to Mary Anne SYMONS/SIMMONS 6. Anna Elizabeth 1881 reg in Warialda, NSW marr 1905 in Bingara to Hubert COX 7. Amelia Anna 1882 reg in Warialda, NSW marr 1902 in Bingara to Hugo Hermann Alfred STEIN 8. Harriet Hannah 1884 born in Yallaroi, reg in Warialda, NSW 9. Robert Miller 1886 reg in Warialda, NSW marr 1918 in Bingara to Minna V FRANCIS Looking forward to making new connections. Thanks Michelle Hornery Newcastle, New South Wales, Australia Hornery/Honnery Family Contact Details mailto:[email protected] Hornery/Honnery Family Web Site http://www.geocities.com/horneryhonnery/ SURNAMES: Hornery; Honnery; Bradcock; Omeroy; Oonery; Onery; Honery; Grover; Groves; Reynolds; Frazer; Carroll; Coss; Watters; Taylor; Bibben; Oliver; Riley; Janson; Packer; Parker; Eather; Townrow; Styles; Craft; Wilshire; Jenkins; Jackson; Edwards; and many more.

I am trying to trace relatives/descendants of Luther Ballard who lived in the Hunter Valley, Macleay, and Nambucca. There was onece an page on the internet entitled "Pat Gore's Genealogy Home Page" that apparently held some information about Mary Jane Ballard who married William Gore. That page seems to have disappeared - does anyone know how to contact Pat Gore? or have any information derived from that site? Another potential source of information about Luther's cousins in Maitland/Morpeth is Christine Mavin's book, "RIP - The Sanderson Family". Does anyone know of this book, where I could get a copy, or whether it has been indexed on any sites? All help appreciated. Peter Peterson

Hello to the New England List! I am looking for descendants of Alfred and Mary Cecilia Lawler Butler, nee White, who married in Tamworth in 1890. Alfred was born in London and Mary in Ireland. Alfred owned a boot store in Peel Street which he continued to operate until shortly before his death in 1946. His obituary in the Northern Daily Leader mentions three sons (one of who was my grandfather) who had moved away from the district, and two daughters who still resided in Tamworth - a Mrs Roy King of Carthage Street and a Mrs E Hoban of 178 Marius Street. I am particularly looking for information about when and how Alfred Butler and Mary White immigrated to Australia, but would be interested in hearing from anyone who has any information about this couple or their descendants. Pat Smith Wollongong, NSW _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

forwarded for your info MargM This is to advise that Janet Reakes' web site has been modified to reflect her recent passing http://www.angelfire.com/or/janetreakesgenealogy and also to let everyone know that it is an ongoing site, now being maintained by some of her genealogy friends. Janet commenced "Australia's Virtual Immigration Wall of Honour" August 2000 and this is being continued in her honour. Some contact email addresses may be out-of-date so could anyone who has placed entries in it please check to make sure their current email address is included. It is hoped that a great many family historians will continue to benefit from the valuable information on Janet's web site. Please feel free to pass this on to other mailing lists. "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle."

This is long shot request as have exhausted all other possibilities including visiting and talking to people in the town where he died. Does anyone on the list have access to the Parish Records in Gunnedah, in particular Catholic Church records to 1880? I am searching for a marriage as follows. CHARLTON James Joseph CUGLEY or CULLEY Rebecca Date 18 March 1877 This is a last resort search, s they were Catholic but Presbyterian and Church of England and neither archives have them listed. Conclusion one draws is either marriage did not take place or this is only of those the travelling pastor failed to lodge. I am also investigating a death of a John Cugley, possibly Armidale or Uralla but cannot be 100%, no records anywhere once he set foot in Sydney although a young child (Rebecca Cugley) appears to have grown up in the New England or Central West of NSW. Bill & Rønæ Pursey Email [email protected] Queensland, Australia Merry Christmas from downunder Mail Protection by Norton Internet Security 2002

Hi List, Just want to thank those people who have been kind enough to respond to my plight in relation to William Henry McGuire/Maguire/Macguire and Isabella Aitken I have been rather quiet lately due to my being busy with my lines, as opposed to my somewhat convict riddled husband's lines!! I have been busy chasing down every possible line I have to see if by chance I have any convict that I can claim of my own... plenty by marriage to husband, but none of my own... Until TONIGHT!!!! I have finally hit the Jackpot!! William Henry Maguire aged 31 could read and write - Presbyterian, a weaver and soldier was court martialled in Edinburgh on 21 January, 1835 for striking a sergeant. He received 14 yrs and 200 lashes (Lady Kennaway 2), was 5'7.5 inches - had a dark sallow and was a little pock pitted, brown hair and hazel eyes... My 3rd Great Grandfather - Bless Him!!! He married Isabella Duncan Aitken (cf Herald 1844) in 1845 Maitland, and somehow ended up in Armidale... I was at the Toowoomba Family History rooms tonight... despite a thunderstorm... and had to stop myself from doing a loud yeehaaa and a happy dance on the tabletops.. (see I have grown up!!) First thing my husband said to me - was - doesnt count if he was court martialled... LOL Like Hell!!! Anyway, just had to share my good news with the List! And - it has rained all night here in Toowoomba - so another great thing!!! Cheers! Liz

Hi Liz Yes there is a cemetery at Booralong it is beside the road near Tom'sGully. I have ancestors (Jones, Jackson & Deiderick) buried there, unfortunately they don't all have head stones. Tom's Gully was named after my gggrandfather Thomas Jones through whose property the creek ran. Lynnette Smokey Central Coast ----- Original Message ----- From: "Liz" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 10:19 PM Subject: [NE] New Member Introduction > Hi Marg and Listers, > > My name is Liz, I live in Toowoomba and I have just > started looking for information about the > McGuire/Macguire/Maguire family that were around > Armidale in 1844, Boorolong late 1840s.. and Black > Mountain area 1880. > > Details found so far are as follows: > > William Henry McGuire b 1804 ?? d 1888 at Black > Mountain aged 84 yrs - Household Servant, then > Shepherd > > married ?? at ?? > > Isabella Duncan Aitken b 1822 at ??? d 1872 at > Armidale aged 50 yrs. > > They had 4 children (as far as I am aware, maybe > others earlier as I havent had any luck with shipping > records...) > > William Henry McGuire b 1846 Armidale , m 1876 d > 1881 around Allora, Qld He married Ann/Annie > Black. I am a direct descendent from this man.. > > Elizabeth Strang McGuire b 1848 Boorolong > Alexander Aitken McGuire b 1849 Boorolong > Jane M McGuire b 1857 > > My Christmas Wish would be to work out whether > William and Isabella were married here in Aus, or how > they arrived in Aus from where, and ended up in > Armidale... > > I would also like to know if Black Mountain and / or > Boorolong have cemeteries, or would William and > Isabel be buried at St Peters? > > I am looking forward to learning more about the early > history of the New England and hearing about other > Listers' interests. > > Thanks in Anticipation of Santa!! > > Cheers! > > Liz >

Hi Marg and Listers, My name is Liz, I live in Toowoomba and I have just started looking for information about the McGuire/Macguire/Maguire family that were around Armidale in 1844, Boorolong late 1840s.. and Black Mountain area 1880. Details found so far are as follows: William Henry McGuire b 1804 ?? d 1888 at Black Mountain aged 84 yrs - Household Servant, then Shepherd married ?? at ?? Isabella Duncan Aitken b 1822 at ??? d 1872 at Armidale aged 50 yrs. They had 4 children (as far as I am aware, maybe others earlier as I havent had any luck with shipping records...) William Henry McGuire b 1846 Armidale , m 1876 d 1881 around Allora, Qld He married Ann/Annie Black. I am a direct descendent from this man.. Elizabeth Strang McGuire b 1848 Boorolong Alexander Aitken McGuire b 1849 Boorolong Jane M McGuire b 1857 My Christmas Wish would be to work out whether William and Isabella were married here in Aus, or how they arrived in Aus from where, and ended up in Armidale... I would also like to know if Black Mountain and / or Boorolong have cemeteries, or would William and Isabel be buried at St Peters? I am looking forward to learning more about the early history of the New England and hearing about other Listers' interests. Thanks in Anticipation of Santa!! Cheers! Liz

At 8:11 PM +1100 6/12/02, Mike Hallinan wrote: >Hi everyone, > >I am researching the following families: > > > >Turner from Armidale (and Yass, Louth, Wilcannia, Forbes, Parramatta, >Kempsey). > > >Mike Hallinan >Deniliquin Mike Was "Toppy" Turner one of those you are researching? Full name was Althea and she was a Monitor in the Armidale Telephone Exchange in the 1940s. I think she married Murray someone from NZ. My wife would know more about her but she's TALKING (not family history) at present so let me know if you think this is a lead. And if she's still around, a great Hullo to Toppy from Thel and Frank! -- Frank Cardiff East Gosford NSW 2250 Australia