Hi Jan, Thanks for the tip and I will have a look at the BDM. It would be a lot easier if the surname was not so common Regards John -----Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-hunter-valley-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-hunter-valley-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jan Gregory Sent: Tuesday, 23 January 2007 1:53 PM To: aus-nsw-hunter-valley@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HV] 32 CHILDREN Sometimes, if an unmarried daughter had a child, the baby was registered with parents' names which were actually the names of the baby's grandparents! Look closely at the later births. Is there a cross reference? A birth registration place different from the usual place of abode? Jan On 25/01/2007, at 2:16 AM, John Rice wrote: