Hi List, I came across this on the middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com This will affect anyone trying to research family in New Zealand Brian M Morley Ipswich Queensland Australia NZ Births, Deaths, Marriages,and Relationships Registration Amendment Bill > There is a story here. The public need to know about this. This proposed > Bill will seriously affect genealogists and family historians, not only in > NZ but also internationally, who require this important data to research > their family histories. They appear to be taking a sledge-hammer to crack > a nut ?? > > -----Original Message----- > From: nz-libs-bounces@lists.vuw.ac.nz > [mailto:nz-libs-bounces@lists.vuw.ac.nz] On Behalf Of Sutherland, Paul > Sent: Friday, 16 March 2007 9:08 a.m. > To: NZ-Libs@lists.vuw.ac.nz > Subject: [NZ-Libs] Births, Deaths, Marriages, and Relationships > Registration > Amendment Bill > An interesting bill. > http://www.parliament.nz/en-NZ/PB/Legislation/Bills/0/8/9/089701926f8d40 > d482d395a3a730fe72.htm > I believe this has now been referred to the Government Administration > Committee - The closing date for submissions is Friday, 4 May 2007. > A few forwarded emails from the very active NEW-ZEALAND-L@rootsweb.com > list > alerted me to this bill. > It is interesting to note that this bill appears to propose shutting down > access to Birth Death and Marriage certificates unless they are old e.g. > Births 100 years or more > It also proposes that The Registrar is going to make some historical > information (.ie. from unrestricted certificates etc) available for search > at a website for a fee. Basically this index will have full names of the > people, place, full date and the registration number. > And it will make it illegal to make the Index Information available on an > Internet website. Any information already online must come down within 14 > days of the Act coming into force. (What about online cemetery records > placed there by Councils across the country?) > It also appears that charges for copies of certificates will greatly > increase to offset the reduced demand. > This all apears to be driven by the fear of identity theft... even those > these registers do not act like a Unique identifier (like US Social > Security > number) - and are often inaccurate. > I am not a family historian but this would all seem to be of some > concern - > this information is the foundation of the connections that family > historians > make. Family historians - often scoffed at - have embraced technology in > very interesting ways - the reduced access to this data will have a major > impact on them. > But what to me seems most important it that this is surely flying against > the aims of the Digital Strategy and the Digital Content Strategy - which > surely aims to liberate content and make it freely available > Just imagine if this official source could become an authoritive online > web > 2.0 source for information about New Zealanders that could be used to > create > the backbone for a peoples of New Zealand resource. The BDM office could > digitize the certificates on demand and make them available online - for > free - not fee. Remember the UK has early census data online. > I guess i always get so confused about what "whole of goverment means" - > just how joined up joined up is. But imagine if we had a agency (Digital > strategy secretariat?) that would be looking at all things across all > agencies, asking questions and examining them for conections and > possibilitites that no one had yet imagined. > Goverment 2.0? > But no - no doubt this bill will pass - and access will diminsih, and fees > will increase becase the DIA bottom line can't be changed - instead of a > glorious oportunity to free up details of our some of early peoples... > /paul > ********************************************************************** > This electronic email and any files transmitted with it are intended > solely > for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. > The views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and > may not necessarily reflect the views of the Christchurch City Council. > If you are not the correct recipient of this email please advise the > sender and delete. > Christchurch City Council > http://www.ccc.govt.nz > ********************************************************************** > > _______________________________________________ > NZ-Libs mailing list > Send postings to NZ-Libs@lists.vuw.ac.nz Messages to > nz-libs-bounces@lists.vuw.ac.nz will NOT be read by a human being! > More info (including unsubscribe) at > http://lists.vuw.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nz-libs

Updated link for this message: http://www.parliament.nz/en-NZ/PB/Legislation/Bills/0/8/9/089701926f8d40d482d395a3a730fe72.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian M Morley" <bmo06298@bigpond.net.au> To: <aus-qld@rootsweb.com>; <AUS-Tasmania@rootsweb.com>; <AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS@rootsweb.com>; "AUS-NSW-Hunter-Valley@rootsweb.com" <AUS-NSW-Hunter-Valley-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 9:12 PM Subject: [HV] NZ Births, Deaths, Marriages,and Relationships Registration Amendment Bill > > Hi List, > I came across this on the middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com > This will affect anyone trying to research family in New Zealand > Brian M Morley > Ipswich Queensland Australia > > > NZ Births, Deaths, Marriages,and Relationships Registration > Amendment Bill > > > >> There is a story here. The public need to know about this. This proposed >> Bill will seriously affect genealogists and family historians, not only >> in >> NZ but also internationally, who require this important data to research >> their family histories. They appear to be taking a sledge-hammer to crack >> a nut ?? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: nz-libs-bounces@lists.vuw.ac.nz >> [mailto:nz-libs-bounces@lists.vuw.ac.nz] On Behalf Of Sutherland, Paul >> Sent: Friday, 16 March 2007 9:08 a.m. >> To: NZ-Libs@lists.vuw.ac.nz >> Subject: [NZ-Libs] Births, Deaths, Marriages, and Relationships >> Registration >> Amendment Bill >> An interesting bill. >> http://www.parliament.nz/en-NZ/PB/Legislation/Bills/0/8/9/089701926f8d40 >> d482d395a3a730fe72.htm >> I believe this has now been referred to the Government Administration >> Committee - The closing date for submissions is Friday, 4 May 2007. >> A few forwarded emails from the very active NEW-ZEALAND-L@rootsweb.com >> list >> alerted me to this bill. >> It is interesting to note that this bill appears to propose shutting down >> access to Birth Death and Marriage certificates unless they are old e.g. >> Births 100 years or more >> It also proposes that The Registrar is going to make some historical >> information (.ie. from unrestricted certificates etc) available for >> search >> at a website for a fee. Basically this index will have full names of the >> people, place, full date and the registration number. >> And it will make it illegal to make the Index Information available on an >> Internet website. Any information already online must come down within 14 >> days of the Act coming into force. (What about online cemetery records >> placed there by Councils across the country?) >> It also appears that charges for copies of certificates will greatly >> increase to offset the reduced demand. >> This all apears to be driven by the fear of identity theft... even those >> these registers do not act like a Unique identifier (like US Social >> Security >> number) - and are often inaccurate. >> I am not a family historian but this would all seem to be of some >> concern - >> this information is the foundation of the connections that family >> historians >> make. Family historians - often scoffed at - have embraced technology in >> very interesting ways - the reduced access to this data will have a major >> impact on them. >> But what to me seems most important it that this is surely flying against >> the aims of the Digital Strategy and the Digital Content Strategy - which >> surely aims to liberate content and make it freely available >> Just imagine if this official source could become an authoritive online >> web >> 2.0 source for information about New Zealanders that could be used to >> create >> the backbone for a peoples of New Zealand resource. The BDM office could >> digitize the certificates on demand and make them available online - for >> free - not fee. Remember the UK has early census data online. >> I guess i always get so confused about what "whole of goverment means" - >> just how joined up joined up is. But imagine if we had a agency (Digital >> strategy secretariat?) that would be looking at all things across all >> agencies, asking questions and examining them for conections and >> possibilitites that no one had yet imagined. >> Goverment 2.0? >> But no - no doubt this bill will pass - and access will diminsih, and >> fees >> will increase becase the DIA bottom line can't be changed - instead of a >> glorious oportunity to free up details of our some of early peoples... >> /paul >> ********************************************************************** >> This electronic email and any files transmitted with it are intended >> solely > for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are > addressed. >> The views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender >> and >> may not necessarily reflect the views of the Christchurch City Council. >> If you are not the correct recipient of this email please advise the >> sender and delete. >> Christchurch City Council >> http://www.ccc.govt.nz >> ********************************************************************** >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NZ-Libs mailing list >> Send postings to NZ-Libs@lists.vuw.ac.nz Messages to >> nz-libs-bounces@lists.vuw.ac.nz will NOT be read by a human being! >> More info (including unsubscribe) at >> http://lists.vuw.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nz-libs > Surnames only typed in all caps are easier to read off a computer screen > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-HUNTER-VALLEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message