Hello Terry, Below is the little detail known to me regarding JAMES BALL--who is my G. Grandfather. Nothing is known of his early life, but guessing from his wife's age at death in 1893, which was 80 yrs.[ according to her headstone in the OLD C. of E. cemetery at Jerrys Plains], he may have been born about 1810. He died at 'Tallawang'--near Gulgong, 25/11/1884. An autopsy was held and Dr. Bennett thought he died of a heart condition. He did not try to estimate his age, which is rather unusual for such cases, and no other detail is recorded. The Coroner's papers were not stored until 1928 in NSW, so there is only the Coroner's Report to go on. After working for John Smith on 'Burnam Wood' near J.P. until about 1851, he purchased 50 acres on the Huner River at J.P. where Redmanvale Ck. enters the river. This house is mentioned in the Singleton Jubilee Booklet of 1926, as being the first to have an iron roof at J.P.. It was swept away in the 1857 flood. Known as 'Ball's Retreat', it is mentioned in various Government Returns regarding area and stock held. It is thought that Charlotte continued to reside there until her death. Oral family history suggests that James left his wife and property in his latter years, having become fond of "the bottle", and earned a living by plying his trade as a shoemaker, e.g. Bootmaker. A report of his death in a Gulgong paper of the day, described him as " an itinerant tradesman". A search of my 'Ball' file shows that I received 3 replies to my request for information about a Charlotte BOURNE placed 'on line' in 2005. Two of these gave fulsome details of her birthplace and date [ Bristol. England. 1821.] Also her death at Wollombi in 1877/8. So this Charlotte is not my G. Grand-mother. You also respondered to an earlier plea, when you sent an email on 6/3/2000 regarding the name GREY. I forgot to mention that Charlotte's death is not registered in NSW--however, I have a p/c of the front page of the Maitland Mercury dated July 1893 which carries her death notice. Regarding James Ball, I have searched convict lists, shipping manifests, Convict absconders with the name Ball. I bought a copy of a T.O.L. from SAG, issued in the Maitland Police District, which they assured me was for a James Ball, only to find that it was for a James Bale ! In a cruel twist of fate, I found where a David Rostron GRAY married a girl of the Hart family ['Dulwich', Glennies Ck.] at St Albans C of E at Muswellbrook in 1861. His abode was Warkworth--hers 'Arrowfield'. They had 2 kids at J.P. who are registered as Rostron--not Gray ???. They then went to the St. George area of Queensland, where they had 3 more kids, all registered Rostron. They went back to NSW and settled in Wee Waa about1875/80, and assumed the name BALL !!!!. Three more kids were born there and registered as Ball. Guess what ? David was a shoemaker ! I cannot find his death anywhere. He was said to have been born in Manchester, U.K.. The wife is buried in the Wee Waa Anglican cemetery. Strange to say--James Ball's youngest child, Mary Ann, married a George Daniel Whitton in 1881, and they lived in Wee Waa and had a family. I spoke to a couple of Grand-children of Mary-- but they had no knowledge of a David Ball. I have a belief that there is something 'fishy' about this David Gray cum Rostron cum Ball. His wife, when registering a birth, stated her name before marriage as SMITH. This happened to be her Mother's maiden name !. Did she have something to hide ?. Even though David 'whoever' was about 20 years younger than James Ball, I feel there is some connection somewhere. Sorry for the length of this story Terry--but there was so much to cover. Thankyou for your interest. Regards, Greg Ball. ----- Original Message ----- From: "terry " <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:22 AM Subject: Re: [HV] doctors hills and creeks and Morris(s) > > Good Morning Greg, > > Not sure as to where you find the entry for MORRISS in my databases , so > if > you could be more specific I will follow up. The only MORRISS I did find > was > Leslie Gordon and his wife Muriel living at 67 Castlereagh Street in > c.1928. > He was listed as a bootmaker. > > Regards > > Terry > > Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor > netiquette > and so is plagiarism. > Please don't do it. > > > > > > Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor > netiquette. Please don't do it. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.58/2061 - Release Date: 04/15/09 19:52:00