Hello Liz & Janice. Just jumping onto the bandwaggon here with my own PLUNKETT ancestor; who is a major brick wall in herself. Mine is Catherine PLUNKETT who later is supposed to have married Thomas Leach DAY; however we have never encountered any marriage record for them, neither in London where he originated, nor in New Zealand where it seems that they might have met, nor in oz where it was thought that they might have to gone to NZ from. We first encounter them in Auckland, New Zealand, between 1843 and 1850 when and where their first 5 eldest children were born; the baptisms for whom give their mother's maiden surname as PLUNKET or PLUNKETT. In case the names of their children might be significant, they are: Helen or Ellen Selina DAY, born 1843. A son Thomas Leach DAY born 1844; evidently named exactly after his father. A daughter Ann DAY born 1846 -- probably named for his own mother: Ann LEWIS in London. My ancestress: Charlotte DAY born 1848 (she was later to marry in 1865 to firstly John Edward HAWKINS of West Maitland; and following his death in 1891, in 1893 she married Joseph LEONARD at West Maitland; where she later died and is buried.) Elizabeth DAY born in 1850 Later daughters born in oz were: Catherine Anne DAY in 1853 -- presumably named for her mother and his mother; and Mary Patience DAY in 1855. So from all of these female names we have: Helen/Ellen Selina, Charlotte, Elizabeth, and Mary Patience; all as possible forenames for the MOTHER of Catherine PLUNKETT. I am hopeful that one of you with oz PLUNKETTs in your family might find something recognisable in all of this. (fingers crossed, but pessimistic just the same. LOL). Just to continue their stories, giving their Hunter Valley connections, here it is: Between 1850 and 1853 they left New Zealand and came to Oz; with the husband/father seemingly chasing the newly-discovered gold as he was later noted as being at Tambaroora (Hill End). In 1863 Thomas Leach DAY re-married at West Maitland to a widow: Bridget TAYLOR (nee McCORMACK); asserting that Catherine had died on 15th November 1856. However, we have never been able to find any records of this supposed death of Catherine DAY (nee PLUNKETT); and from several other things, we believe that the word of our ancestor T.L.DAY should not be taken at face value. Accordingly, with neither marriage certificate, nor death certificate for Catherine DAY nee PLUNKETT, we are at a brick wall in trying to trace her back any further than this. Regards: Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Liz Parkinson" <[email protected]> > Dear Janice > > I'm descended from a Margaret Plunkett (1833 - 1933), and some of her > descendants were also living in the Muswellbrook area from the early > 1900's. It's a different family to yours though, and comes complete with > an impenetrable brick wall, with its components going back to Newry, > Armagh. > > Cheers Liz (Parkinson) > (Janice had earlier written): >> Mary KING (nee PLUNKETT), .... I have been able to find Mary's father Edward PLUNKETT on the 1851 Census, he was 55 years of age and living in St Mary's Lane in Kilmainham in Dublin, her mother Judy PLUNKETT (nee Miles) is not listed.

Hello Ray, I have found a few things that may help you with your family search. Or they may have nothing to do with the ancestors you are searching for. A Catherine Plunkett a Roman Catholic, 20 (born circa 1821) from Manchester Lancashire Eng. (she may have been born in Ireland). Domestic Servant under the protection of William Bates and wife, arrived on the Bounty Immigration ship "Joseph Cunard" in 1841. Reel 1330. If you look at the information on the Reel, it may have Catherine's parents names and more information that could assist you. Catherine's protector William Bates 28 (born circa 1813) from Manchester Lancashire a Protestant, a Labourer to be employed by Mr. Chaine of Sydney, arrived on the Joseph Cunard in 1841, with his wife Elizabeth 28 and 9 month old son Joseph. Elizabeth Bates is the daughter of Edward and Sarah Turner. Also, on the same ship was a William Plunkett, a Protestant 18 years of age the son of Joseph and Ellen Plunkett and he was from Manchester, Lancashire. Then a Thomas Day 18 years old (born circa 1824) an Agricultural Labourer arrived on the Bounty Immigration ship "Sarah Botsford" in 1842 to work for Mr. Turner of Goulburn County Argyle. Two children were born to Thomas and Elizabeth BATES after their arrival in the colony, James in 1843 and Henry in 1844. It appears William BATES died a year after the birth of Henry, at the age of 32 (born circa 1813). Elizabeth BATES remarried in 1849 to Henry C CURLEWIS in the Presbyterian Church at either Derbie, Hunter District, Maitland, Morpeth, Paterson, Singleton. So we have the family in the Hunter. Elizabeth and her second husband appear to have had one child born in 1850 Elizabeth C CURLEWIS to Charles Henry and Elizabeth CURLEWIS. So when Catherine DAY (nee PLUNKETT) returned with Thomas DAY from NZ, she may have made her way up to the Hunter because of Elizabeth CURLEWIS (Bates nee Turner), the lady she sailed with from England on the "Joseph Curard", has settled there with her second husband. Would these be the marriages of the Bates children:- 2623/1871 BATES JOSEPH BLISHEW SOPHIA MAITLAND 2153/1866 BATES WILLIAM HENRY ALLWAY JANE ANNA HARTLEY Not sure about James' marriage. I cannot find a death for Henry Charles or Charles Henry CURLEWIS or for Elizabeth CURLEWIS. Maybe they moved interstate or returned to the Old Dart. Or are they connected to the well know CURLEWIS family, I think one was a Judge. I found a Catherine DAY died at the age of 45 in Maitland. Could this be your missing Catherine? This would fit into your thoughts that she was actually still alive when Thomas L Day married for the second time. Have you ever investigated this death? Regards, Janice ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 5:25 PM Subject: Re: [HV] PLUNKETT > Hello Liz & Janice. > > Just jumping onto the bandwaggon here with my own PLUNKETT ancestor; who > is > a major brick wall in herself. > > Mine is Catherine PLUNKETT who later is supposed to have married Thomas > Leach DAY; however we have never encountered any marriage record for them, > neither in London where he originated, nor in New Zealand where it seems > that they might have met, nor in oz where it was thought that they might > have to gone to NZ from. >

Hello Janice. Thank you for providing such excellent information. I have long been impressed from the examples of your research skills which you have demonstrated in so many of your postings on the list, and this confirms that perception. You have provided me with a lot here to mull over; and I thank you greatly for it all. About that Catherine DAY who died in Maitland, if I recall correctly, my fellow-researcher on this family has obtained that death certificate, and it didn't assist us at all. grrr.... I think that I recall that it said that she was a 'matron', which at the time had us wondering if this meant a nursing/hospital matron, or merely an aged female. I think that in the end we concluded that it was more likely to be the latter. I also found on the Campbell's Hill cemetery listing, one for a Catherine DAY, which was probably for that same person. But upon going there to investigate the site, there was no headstone. I had intended returning to obtain details from surrounding headstones to see if that might have provided an inference as to her burial year; but have never since been able to do that. A wonderful 'cousin': Mrs Betty DRAYTON of East Maitland, when she was still alive, told me that she believed that Catherine's daughter Charlotte had mentioned that Catherine was buried in the old Devonshire Street cemetery, formerly located at now Central Railway in Sydney; but my investigation into that thought did not elicit any further clues either. grrr... I also had a thought that as Catherine's youngest daughter: Mary Patience DAY had died in 1857 and had been buried at Camperdown Cemetery, so too, that might have been the location of Catherine's burial -- with Camperdown being very close to Devonshire Street; but have never been able to follow up on that thought either. I was completely unaware of the shipping arrivals which you mention, and am extremely grateful for those references from you too. Again, with much gratitude, I thank you deeply for all that you have provided so expertly to assist us in our search. Best wishes in your own continued researches. Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janice Doughty" <[email protected]> > Hello Ray, > > I have found a few things that may help you with your family search. Or > they may have nothing to do with the ancestors you are searching for. > > A Catherine Plunkett a Roman Catholic, 20 (born circa 1821) from > Manchester > Lancashire Eng. (she may have been born in Ireland). Domestic Servant > under > the protection of William Bates and wife, arrived on the Bounty > Immigration > ship "Joseph Cunard" in 1841. Reel 1330. If you look at the information > on > the Reel, it may have Catherine's parents names and more information that > could assist you. ...