Hi Ray, Thank you for your kind words. I love playing detective, however you are right, many times you come up against a brickwall and there is no way you can break it down. Though I am lucky at the moment, my King cousin is contacting all the cousins and distant cousins on the King side of her family, which she is aware have tried to carry out some family research on the family and a few more facts are coming out of the wood work. Thomas King did leave the state to look for work and took himself to SA, where the family believes he died. I had a look at the SA CDs for births, deaths and marriages, again too many Thomas Kings to be sure who is who and if he is any one of them. He would have left some time after the death of Mary King (nee Plunkett) in 1849. His two children John and Jane were left with Thomas and Catherine Price as their guardians. John felt that his father had abandoned him (this came from an old Aunt). The children were raised by the Prices, however John was treated as a servant and hated his guardians, whereas Jane was treated as a Princess. I would not like to find out more about the Price family of Patrick and Jerry's Plains. I have just had a peek into my Devonshire Street Cemetery book, there are 13 Dayes that were buried at that Cemetery but no Catherine. If you wish to follow up on the Camperdown Cemetery, the records are at the Mitchell Library, under I think St Stephens Newtown. I know I looked up the deaths of my husband's gg uncles children and we found the four of them there in the church records. Also, at Kingswood, they have photographs of all the headstones. The Bounty Immigration CD I have is a God send and was given to me some years ago by one of my children as either a Mother's Day, Christmas or Birthday present. Actually, they know what to buy me now, especially if something new has come out to help with my research. I do have a NZ marriage CD, however it has not been installed as yet. I do have a friend that also has this CD and I will contact them today and ask them to look up a marriage between a Thomas Day and Catherine Plunkett, and let you know what they find. Kind regards, Janice ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [HV] PLUNKETT > Hello Janice. > > Thank you for providing such excellent information. > I have long been impressed from the examples of your research skills which > you have demonstrated in so many of your postings on the list, and this > confirms that perception. > > You have provided me with a lot here to mull over; and I thank you greatly > for it all. > > About that Catherine DAY who died in Maitland, if I recall correctly, my > fellow-researcher on this family has obtained that death certificate, and > it > didn't assist us at all. grrr.... I think that I recall that it said that > she was a 'matron', which at the time had us wondering if this meant a > nursing/hospital matron, or merely an aged female. I think that in the end > we concluded that it was more likely to be the latter. > > I also found on the Campbell's Hill cemetery listing, one for a Catherine > DAY, which was probably for that same person. But upon going there to > investigate the site, there was no headstone. I had intended returning to > obtain details from surrounding headstones to see if that might have > provided an inference as to her burial year; but have never since been > able > to do that. > > A wonderful 'cousin': Mrs Betty DRAYTON of East Maitland, when she was > still > alive, told me that she believed that Catherine's daughter Charlotte had > mentioned that Catherine was buried in the old Devonshire Street cemetery, > formerly located at now Central Railway in Sydney; but my investigation > into > that thought did not elicit any further clues either. grrr... > > I also had a thought that as Catherine's youngest daughter: Mary Patience > DAY had died in 1857 and had been buried at Camperdown Cemetery, so too, > that might have been the location of Catherine's burial -- with Camperdown > being very close to Devonshire Street; but have never been able to follow > up > on that thought either. > > I was completely unaware of the shipping arrivals which you mention, and > am > extremely grateful for those references from you too. > > Again, with much gratitude, I thank you deeply for all that you have > provided so expertly to assist us in our search. > > Best wishes in your own continued researches. > Ray > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janice Doughty" <[email protected]> > >> Hello Ray, >> >> I have found a few things that may help you with your family search. Or >> they may have nothing to do with the ancestors you are searching for. >> >> A Catherine Plunkett a Roman Catholic, 20 (born circa 1821) from >> Manchester >> Lancashire Eng. (she may have been born in Ireland). Domestic Servant >> under >> the protection of William Bates and wife, arrived on the Bounty >> Immigration >> ship "Joseph Cunard" in 1841. Reel 1330. If you look at the information >> on >> the Reel, it may have Catherine's parents names and more information that >> could assist you. ... > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Hello Janice, In the 1850/1860 era, A Mr Price held the mail contract from Singleton to Jerrys Plains. His route was via Maison Dieu [a part of the Singleton district] and across the Hunter River at Comleroi--the grant to a Mr Bell. On one such trip he drowned while attempting to cross the swollen river. A Price family lived at Maison Dieu in a later period. This is noted by the name of the Stock Reserve--which has always been known as Prices Reserve. A Henry Price lived at Wylies Flat & Glennies Ck, in the 1845 -1877 era. His daughter Jane, married Alfred Watts of Warkworth, another married a John Paul. also of Warkworth. This area is about 10 miles from Jerrys Plains and both are in the same Parish. This family were Presbyterian. HTH. Greg Ball. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janice Doughty" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [HV] PLUNKETT > > Hi Ray, > > Thank you for your kind words. I love playing detective, however you are > right, many times you come up against a brickwall and there is no way you > can break it down. > > Though I am lucky at the moment, my King cousin is contacting all the > cousins and distant cousins on the King side of her family, which she is > aware have tried to carry out some family research on the family and a few > more facts are coming out of the wood work. > > Thomas King did leave the state to look for work and took himself to SA, > where the family believes he died. I had a look at the SA CDs for births, > deaths and marriages, again too many Thomas Kings to be sure who is who > and > if he is any one of them. He would have left some time after the death of > Mary King (nee Plunkett) in 1849. His two children John and Jane were > left > with Thomas and Catherine Price as their guardians. John felt that his > father had abandoned him (this came from an old Aunt). The children were > raised by the Prices, however John was treated as a servant and hated his > guardians, whereas Jane was treated as a Princess. I would not like to > find > out more about the Price family of Patrick and Jerry's Plains. > > I have just had a peek into my Devonshire Street Cemetery book, there are > 13 > Dayes that were buried at that Cemetery but no Catherine. If you wish to > follow up on the Camperdown Cemetery, the records are at the Mitchell > Library, under I think St Stephens Newtown. I know I looked up the deaths > of my husband's gg uncles children and we found the four of them there in > the church records. Also, at Kingswood, they have photographs of all the > headstones. > > The Bounty Immigration CD I have is a God send and was given to me some > years ago by one of my children as either a Mother's Day, Christmas or > Birthday present. Actually, they know what to buy me now, especially if > something new has come out to help with my research. I do have a NZ > marriage > CD, however it has not been installed as yet. I do have a friend that > also > has this CD and I will contact them today and ask them to look up a > marriage > between a Thomas Day and Catherine Plunkett, and let you know what they > find. > > Kind regards, > Janice > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ray" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 11:58 AM > Subject: Re: [HV] PLUNKETT > > >> Hello Janice. >> >> Thank you for providing such excellent information. >> I have long been impressed from the examples of your research skills >> which >> you have demonstrated in so many of your postings on the list, and this >> confirms that perception. >> >> You have provided me with a lot here to mull over; and I thank you >> greatly >> for it all. >> >> About that Catherine DAY who died in Maitland, if I recall correctly, my >> fellow-researcher on this family has obtained that death certificate, and >> it >> didn't assist us at all. grrr.... I think that I recall that it said >> that >> she was a 'matron', which at the time had us wondering if this meant a >> nursing/hospital matron, or merely an aged female. I think that in the >> end >> we concluded that it was more likely to be the latter. >> >> I also found on the Campbell's Hill cemetery listing, one for a Catherine >> DAY, which was probably for that same person. But upon going there to >> investigate the site, there was no headstone. I had intended returning >> to >> obtain details from surrounding headstones to see if that might have >> provided an inference as to her burial year; but have never since been >> able >> to do that. >> >> A wonderful 'cousin': Mrs Betty DRAYTON of East Maitland, when she was >> still >> alive, told me that she believed that Catherine's daughter Charlotte had >> mentioned that Catherine was buried in the old Devonshire Street >> cemetery, >> formerly located at now Central Railway in Sydney; but my investigation >> into >> that thought did not elicit any further clues either. grrr... >> >> I also had a thought that as Catherine's youngest daughter: Mary Patience >> DAY had died in 1857 and had been buried at Camperdown Cemetery, so too, >> that might have been the location of Catherine's burial -- with >> Camperdown >> being very close to Devonshire Street; but have never been able to follow >> up >> on that thought either. >> >> I was completely unaware of the shipping arrivals which you mention, and >> am >> extremely grateful for those references from you too. >> >> Again, with much gratitude, I thank you deeply for all that you have >> provided so expertly to assist us in our search. >> >> Best wishes in your own continued researches. >> Ray >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Janice Doughty" <[email protected]> >> >>> Hello Ray, >>> >>> I have found a few things that may help you with your family search. Or >>> they may have nothing to do with the ancestors you are searching for. >>> >>> A Catherine Plunkett a Roman Catholic, 20 (born circa 1821) from >>> Manchester >>> Lancashire Eng. (she may have been born in Ireland). Domestic Servant >>> under >>> the protection of William Bates and wife, arrived on the Bounty >>> Immigration >>> ship "Joseph Cunard" in 1841. Reel 1330. If you look at the information >>> on >>> the Reel, it may have Catherine's parents names and more information >>> that >>> could assist you. ... >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.34/2121 - Release Date: 05/18/09 17:55:00
Good morning Greg, Thank you so much for this information on Prices living in the district, it gives me somewhere to start. I will have to see if Thomas and Catherine Price had any children of their own. One thought I will look at is the 1841 Census, though the 1841 Census does not give all that much information, just the name of an owner of a property. Another problem is, after much searching I found when the Bounty Immigration ship the "Runnymede" arrived, it was on 30th August 1841, darn it, it arrived 3 months after the marriage of Mary Plunkett to Thomas King. So back to the drawing board, and I will have to look again more carefully to the Mary Plunkett who arrived on the "Adam Lodge". Though a thought is, she could have been a convict. I am beginning to realise that I may never be able to find out who Thomas King and Mary Plunkett were, where they came from (though I do know from the family that they were both Irish) and when they arrived in the Colony. Regards, Janice ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Ball" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 4:37 PM Subject: Re: [HV] Price family. > Hello Janice, > In the 1850/1860 era, A Mr Price held the mail contract > from Singleton to Jerrys Plains. His route was via Maison Dieu [a part of > the Singleton district] and across the Hunter River at Comleroi--the grant > to a Mr Bell. On one such trip he drowned while attempting to cross the > swollen river. > A Price family lived at Maison Dieu in a later period. This is noted by > the name of the Stock Reserve--which has always been known as Prices > Reserve.
Hello again Janice, and once more I thank you for all of your great advice. However, I am mainly replying to this on the list, because I THINK that a typing slip-up might have perverted your original intention and meaning of one of your sentences below. YOU WROTE: "... I would not like to find out more about the Price family of Patrick and Jerry's Plains." I THINK that you meant to say that you would NOW like to find out more about that PRICE family. If left the way that you had it, there might be kind people with information about the PRICE family, who would like to be in touch with you, but who might comply with your there-expressed with NOT to be in touch; and that would be a great pity. ha ha. Thanks one more time. Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janice Doughty" <[email protected]> ... I would not like to find out more about the Price family of Patrick and Jerry's Plains.
Thank you Ray, I was in a hurry as hubby was waiting for me out in the car and I did not proof read the email before I sent it. I just found the error myself, so I will send an email pointing out that I do wish to know more about the price family. Thank you so much for pointing this out. I have found out a little more too, I think bit by bit the wall maybe tumbling down. Regards, Janice ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 5:44 PM Subject: Re: [HV] PLUNKETT > Hello again Janice, and once more I thank you for all of your great > advice. > > However, I am mainly replying to this on the list, because I THINK that a > typing slip-up might have perverted your original intention and meaning of > one of your sentences below. > > YOU WROTE: > "... I would not like to find out more about the Price family of Patrick > and Jerry's Plains." > > I THINK that you meant to say that you would NOW like to find out more > about > that PRICE family. > > If left the way that you had it, there might be kind people with > information > about the PRICE family, who would like to be in touch with you, but who > might comply with your there-expressed with NOT to be in touch; and that > would be a great pity. ha ha. > > Thanks one more time. > Ray > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janice Doughty" <[email protected]> > > ... I would not like to find out more about the Price family of Patrick > and Jerry's Plains. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >