Hi Marje, Thankyou for taking the time to look for a photo for me. Much appreciated. I'm pretty certain it wasn't my William BUCKMAN walking home with the 2nd William BRAMBLE - he was the son in law of William BRAMBLE 1804-1887 & as far as I know he was in Nambucca where he lived. William BRAMBLE 1840-1892 had a daughter Alice who married Edward "Ted" BUCKMAN. I was assuming he was the BUCKMAN In-Law that was mentioned in the article I read (as he is the only Buckman to marry any of this particular William Bramble's daughters that I know of so far in my research & they were 'of Tamboy' as stated in article). Re William Bramble Snr, I did read (back in 2004 on http://www.jenwilletts.com/eraring.htm ) that he was a renowned cattle thief...... so he was never caught/punished?... pity he didn't put his crafty thinking to some good purpose :o). I think "the old curmudgeon" is a great nickname. I've always felt a little sad knowing that he was really just a kid when he first found trouble though. Stealing food... must've been hungry. In your reply to Marg you said you were descended from Lydia who married William BELTON. I thought Lydia married James PALMER & Eliza was the daughter to marry William BELTON (according to marr reg'ns & also Vicki Hails work http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hails/thesis.htm) ? Or is that not the William BELTON you are talking about? Thanks again, Deb. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marjedawn_1" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 5:24 PM Subject: Re: [HV] William BRAMBLE 1804-1887 (was: New NLA site) > Hi Deb, > > Thank you for your interest in the Bramble saga. > > I have some photos of the family so will check for your Jane Elizabeth. > Apparently she married Wm Buckman in 1874. > According to the news item it was her husband who was walking home with > her > father, Wm Bramble. . > > Wm Bramble Snr was a convict per Mary II,1822, who served out his sentence > of 14 years plus an extra 2 years for assault committed soon after > arrival. > Reputed to have a rather bad temper and his penchant for collecting other > people's, albeit unbranded, cattle has earned him the title of "the old > curmudgeon" from MargM and myself as we researched his movements. > Despite his several appearances in court rooms I have not found that he > actually served a sentence for his cattle duffing. > > If you would like to exchange notes, please contact me offline. > > Cheers > Marje > Port Macquarie. >