Hi After looking at the births etc on bdm site I have come to the conclusion that my friends' family has somehow confused George snr and George jnr as the same person . I got back to Tracy today and have told her this and that it would be beneficial to get some certs. I did do searches on trove last night and this morning with some surprising news items regarding George and the death of Margaret nee McManus in 1929 in Sydney , as a widow. I also found a item on Andrew E's marriage to Frances...only it says Andrew was the youngest son of John in Singleton...my searches on bdm shows no Andrew's to a John. Was hoping to find a death for Andrew Emanuel on Trove but nothing yet. Thanks for your reply Heather Macdonald