John There is this place called 'the big black hole' which is the resting place for many government and other records - I am sure you have heard of it. If someone could find where it is then maybe we would all get our family history brick walls broken down. --- On Mon, 21/3/11, john.mail@ozemail.com.au <john.mail@ozemail.com.au> wrote: From: john.mail@ozemail.com.au <john.mail@ozemail.com.au> Subject: Re: [HV] Thunderbolts middle name To: aus-nsw-hunter-valley@rootsweb.com Received: Monday, 21 March, 2011, 9:44 PM Hi Richard, If you check BDM online he doesn't appear to have been a registered birth(?). Even the cold hard facts of the governor general's last Sunday lunch are quickly lost if the guv'mint or someone aren't doing their job. Perhaps they had a budget cut the year Thunderbolt was born and decided only to register two out of every five births at Wilberforce. I'm particularly interested in just how gaps in records came about. Or in any published studies on such. For convict records there's been a few studies, apparently, of how records came to get lost, or wilfully destroyed. But what happened to those studies? Perhaps they got lost too? I suspect it is all very complicated ... if only we knew. Cheers, John On Mon Mar 21 18:27 , Richard sent: Hello Does anyone have certificates of Thunderbolt's family - the BDM certificates? These should reveal the cold hard facts of the family lineage.. Richard