My memory has dimmed after over 50 years, the first fleeter buried at St. Johns Ashfield is John Limeburner. Have a look at the Church's website. . .· ´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´*.` Jenny McCarthy JP Brightwaters on beautiful Lake Macquarie

Good morning Listers, I found a website that explains the naming of Limeburner's Bay and Creek and it appears that they are not named after the family after all, but for the reason I suspected, after the convict Limeburners:- "...As a penal colony, the military rule was harsh, especially at Limeburners' Bay, on the inner side of Stockton peninsula. There, convicts were sent to burn oyster shells for making lime..." Also, "...Limeburners Creek where a small community is all that remains of what was once a regular coach stopover for those travelling between Stroud and Raymond Terrace..." and "...The term Limeburners Creek derived from the early days of European settlement when oyster shell from the creek were burned in prodigious numbers to produce lime for mortar. Free settlers moved into the area in the 1830s when the penal settlement at Port Macquarie was wound down. The area adjacent to the creek was declared the Orara Gold Field in 1881, though the returns seem to have been insubstantial. After their initial decimations, oysters returned and the creek is now the region's principal source of the shellfish..." I suppose it was a good yarn passed on down through the Limeburner's families, that these places had been named after their ancestors. Though maybe Limeburners Road, Wattle Flat, may have been named after the family, especially if that is where the original home once stood. Now to find out where the family lived. Thank you to all those who responded to my enquiry, much appreciated. Cheers Janice

Limeburners Rd., Wattle Flat. Benny.

There is a James Limeburner of the First Fleet buried in the cemetery at St. John the Baptist, in Ashfield. it was always shown proudly to the Sunday School children! Jenny McCarthy JP Brightwaters on beautiful Lake Macquarie

Thanks for the information Jenny, Ill wait for it, thanks carole

Hi.. Sounds like Machine Gun.. Do you know his service history.. he may have been in a MG battalion'The National Archives have all service files for the AIF during WW1 and have been digitising them.http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/recordsearch/index.aspxLog in as a guest, and search under his name .. narrowing it down by the series number will help alot.. WW1 files are Series.. B2455.Cheers .. Ken. > From: tc.jones@bigpond.com > To: aus-nsw-hunter-valley@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 22:11:24 +1100 > Subject: [HV] WWI fire arms > > Hi hunter listers. > > This is a general inquiry. I have come into possession of an old postcard > from my great uncle Darcy Smith when he was in WWI and am having trouble > with one small detail. He says "I opened fire today at 400 yards with the > M.?. and done good work". Does anyone have an idea what the ? is and what a > M.?. might be. I assume it is some kind of gun. > > Regards > Tim Jones > > > > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any > reply...... Thank you! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-HUNTER-VALLEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Carol, Inverell is in the process of completing their PR, I missed the boat with my husband's families :-(( http://www.inverellfamilyhistory.org.au/ >From the web... http://www.gouldgenealogy.com/2010/05/australian-history-news-may-2010/ Port Macquarie and Districts Family History Society - Port Macquarie The Port Macquarie and Districts Family History Society have been busy compiling the "Port Macquarie-Hastings Pioneer Register 1821-1900?, a new book due to be released soon. This will be available direct from the Society only, and they currently have a special offer of $25.00 per book (+ postage) for orders received before 31st May 2010 (the price will normally be $30.00). To place your order, click here to print the pre-order form, and post the completed form to the Secretary with payment. The Society does have a website you can visit for more information. Regards, Jenny

Hi Listers, I am helping a friend set up her family tree, on her side of the family and her husband's side. What an interesting bunch. Found quite a few convicts too on both sides. One lot on my friend' mother's side of the family were the LIMEBURNERS. That is not their trade, that is their family name. Most likely way back in the families past in the Old Dart, they were Limeburners. Henry James Limeburner Trade: Calico Glaizier Offence: Stealing Tried: 18 July 1825 at Essex Assizes Former Convictions: None Sentence: Transportation for Life Height: 5' 10" Completion: Ruddy Pimples Hair: Dark Brown Eyes: Black He had a Heart and Anchor tattooed on his left arm. Henry James Limeburner was sentenced to death in Essex Summer Assizes on 19th July 1825 at age 19. His occupation is given as a bricklayer (though above we have Calico Glaizier) in the parish of Grays Thurrock , Essex. He was charged for stealing property to the value of 11 pounds 8 shillings from John Syer and his partner in crime was Samuel Ramsden. He arrived on 21 March 1825 on the transport ship "Sesostris". Limeburner was assigned to John L.Platt a farmer, Came Free per "Providence" at Iron Bark Hill, Newcastle. He was a Servant to Platt for 7 years until he was granted his Ticket of Leave. He received a Conditional Pardon on 22 April 1842. On 31st March 1837 he married Mary Ann Carbery/Carberry. Mary Ann was tried at the Old Bailey on 6th Sept, 1832. She was just 15 years of age, she was found guilty and transported for 7 years. She arrived on the "Diana" on 25th May 1833. Offence: Stealing Print Tried: 6 September 1832 at Middlesex Assizes Former Convictions: None Sentence: Transportation for 7 Years Height: 4' 11" Complexion: Ruddy and slightly Pock-pitted Hair: Brown Eyes: Light HazelMarkings: Three Blue dots back of left hand, three on back of right hand but almost illegible. The Convict Indent for the barque "Diana" states that on embarkations Mary Carbey was 16 years old, could read but not write, a Protestant, single and her native place was London.Trade: Nurse Girl (probably the same as nursemaid). It appears that the Limeburner family was quite well known in Newcastle over the years. One son I think was the ferry man for many years in Newcastle. However, here is the question I am hoping SKS can answer. My friend was aware of the Limeburners in her mother's family, but had no idea that the family in Newcastle began with convicts. One thing her mother did tell her, was that many landmarks were named after the family, one being Limeburners Creek. However, I am wondering if maybe these places were named after the convict Limeburners, who would crush the shells and burn them on the beach to make lime. Any thoughts on this would be very much appreciated. Cheers Janice Belrose - Sydney

Does any one know if there are Pioneer books for the following area, and could do a look up for me ,thanks carole Port Macquarie area Wingham area. Inverell area. Thanks carole

Does anyone know who was the owner of the hotel when the fire is thought to have happened. Must be the owner-not the licensee. About 100 years ago, Castlemaine Perkins had a brewery in Newcastle and owned many hotels there. If the Sydney Junction was one of them, you may find reference to the fire in the Castlemaine Perkins archives. Benny. P/S. Was the Sydney Junction near Sidebottoms Hotel ?.

Just to clarify my last message, it is the inquest REGISTER which is digitised. Didn't want to mislead anyone... Deb -----Original Message----- From: Deb Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 1:55 PM To: aus-nsw-hunter-valley@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HV] Sydney Junction Hotel,Hamilton (Newcastle) - fire? inquest? I have checked NRS 343 (the relevant inquest record) which is digitised on Ancestry ..........

Dear Deb, If the hotel was badly damaged, it is highly probable that there was an Inquest into the cause of the fire. Inquests for that period I think are microfilmed, and possibly part of the Archives Resources Kit at many libraries or family histories society. I wonder if it is mentioned in the index of Rod and Wendy GOW. Regards, Bill > Sent this yesterday but a mail server rejected it, so fingers crossed this > time. > > Thankyou to everyone who contacted me on & off list. > > For those interested, I've heard back from the hotel already. Apparently > they've heard that it was badly damaged by fire in the late 1930's but > have > not been able to find anything about it. They'll ask some locals & see if > they can confirm this. > > There are numerous references to fires in the Newcastle Herald index.

Hi Bill, Thanks for the reminder. I have checked NRS 343 (the relevant inquest record) which is digitised on Ancestry and the only reference I get to the hotel is an inquest (death) held there in 1896. So if it was a fire it probably wasn't a suspicious one. Although I don't trust Ancestry's index/search engine so if I had a closer date I would browse the images to be sure. I didn't think Gow's indexes covered Newcastle but there are the odd references to Newcastle within their indexes. I did a Google search for various terms within their website but didn't find anything. It's funny, I keep thinking about an article I saw for an electrical storm at Beaumont Street, Hamilton (where the hotel was). I'd laugh if in the end the fire was started by lightning. The article doesn't give the impression there were any fires though - quite the opposite. The reporter has an entertaining style... "Mass Hysteria" Cairns Post 21 Nov 1938 pg 7 http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/42147178 Have a good weekend. Deb -----Original Message----- From: Bill Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 11:02 AM To: aus-nsw-hunter-valley@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HV] Sydney Junction Hotel, Hamilton (Newcastle) - fire? Dear Deb, If the hotel was badly damaged, it is highly probable that there was an Inquest into the cause of the fire. Inquests for that period I think are microfilmed, and possibly part of the Archives Resources Kit at many libraries or family histories society. I wonder if it is mentioned in the index of Rod and Wendy GOW. Regards, Bill

Good morning Clare, Which Hogan are you looking for? I am a descendant of Denis Hogan, convict from Tipperary. Liz, Lake Macqarie, Aust. On 1/04/2011 3:28 AM, Clare Stapleton wrote: > I- > > > Researching FRAZER, MORGAN, WILSON, CLEGG, MEREDITH, PRIOR, COLLS, VAUGHN, > MYERS, SOLOMON, ABBOTT, HOGAN, WOODS > Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any >

Hi, Sent this yesterday but a mail server rejected it, so fingers crossed this time. Thankyou to everyone who contacted me on & off list. For those interested, I've heard back from the hotel already. Apparently they've heard that it was badly damaged by fire in the late 1930's but have not been able to find anything about it. They'll ask some locals & see if they can confirm this. There are numerous references to fires in the Newcastle Herald index. Deb. -----Original Message----- From: Deb Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 9:14 AM To: aus-nsw-hunter-valley@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HV] Sydney Junction Hotel, Hamilton (Newcastle) I think I might email the hotel & see if anyone has any knowledge. <snipped>

Hi Deb Thanks for that link, a very interesting site. regards David Fitzsimmons > http://archivesoutside.records.nsw.gov.au/can-you-date-this-photograph-hamilton-railway-station/ > >

Hi Tim, I know nothing about guns but googling World War 1 guns brings up sites providing lists of guns for the all the countries involved including the British Empire. Might help. Judy > This is a general inquiry. I have come into possession of an old postcard > from my great uncle Darcy Smith when he was in WWI and am having trouble > with one small detail. He says "I opened fire today at 400 yards with the > M.?. and done good work". Does anyone have an idea what the ? is and what > a > M.?. might be. I assume it is some kind of gun. >

Hi it could be Machine Gun at 400 yds it would be deadly. Fred -------Original Message------- From: Tim Jones Date: 03/31/11 22:12:15 To: aus-nsw-hunter-valley@rootsweb.com Subject: [HV] WWI fire arms Hi hunter listers. This is a general inquiry. I have come into possession of an old postcard >From my great uncle Darcy Smith when he was in WWI and am having trouble With one small detail. He says "I opened fire today at 400 yards with the M.?. And done good work". Does anyone have an idea what the ? Is and what a M.?. Might be. I assume it is some kind of gun. Regards Tim Jones Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any Reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-HUNTER-VALLEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi hunter listers. This is a general inquiry. I have come into possession of an old postcard from my great uncle Darcy Smith when he was in WWI and am having trouble with one small detail. He says "I opened fire today at 400 yards with the M.?. and done good work". Does anyone have an idea what the ? is and what a M.?. might be. I assume it is some kind of gun. Regards Tim Jones

Hello Pete again. I have just searched and found a book I have Maitland on the Hunter,by Brian Walsh and Cameron Archer published by C B Alexander Foundation ISBN 0 7313 0538 8 (2000) from the book...."from 1819 - 1869 major floods occurred in 1820,1826,1827,1832,1857,1864,1867 and 1868" I also remember hearing that when Maitland was established originally on the river the local aborigines laughed....one can understand why! It has a chapter with pictures on floods. Evidently Maitland Mercury put out a 'Flood Suplement' Feb 26-27 1999 Cheers, Wendy in NZ