----- Original Message ----- From: "carole douch" <carole.douch@bigpond.com> To: <aus-nsw-hunter-valley@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 3:57 PM Subject: [HV] Pioneer Books > Does any one know if there are Pioneer Registers for the Ulludulla,Milton > areas, this is the only site I can access for some reason > Hi Carol I checked the Shoalhaven Pioneers book today at the CC FHS library. Only mention of a COE was of the marriage of a Richard COE to Belinda DALY in 1906 on the DALY family page No COE in the Illawarra Pioneers book Bye MargM Hunter Valley List Admin

Thanks Jenny. -----Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-hunter-valley-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-hunter-valley-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jenny Myers Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 5:03 PM To: aus-nsw-hunter-valley@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HV] Pioneer Books Carol, Contact the following.......Milton - Ulladulla Family History Society Inc. secretary@mufhsi.org Purchase Milton Ulladulla Pioneer Register - Pre 1920 Milton Ulladulla Pioneer Register Order Form Hope this helps, Jenny Lake Macquarie FHG Inc. Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-HUNTER-VALLEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Carol, Contact the following.......Milton - Ulladulla Family History Society Inc. secretary@mufhsi.org Purchase Milton Ulladulla Pioneer Register - Pre 1920 Milton Ulladulla Pioneer Register Order Form Hope this helps, Jenny Lake Macquarie FHG Inc.

Thanks Marg, Ill get back to you with details. I got this from a lady in UK about not being able to access Rootsweb. ROOTSWEB PROBLEM Encourage folk to tell their ISPs about the problem - the whole process is designed to get rid of the spammers. Tell bigpond their anti-spammer routine isn't good enough to stop them being listed at sORBS Any ISP which is known to allow spammers is listed at a website called SORBS. RootsWeb don't allow posts from anything listed at SORBS. right now there have been lots of ISPs, and bigpond is one, that are listed at SORBS, so RotsWeb are blocking your posts. A lot of people are in your

I received this from lady in UK.so what can be done about it. Thanks Carole Any ISP which is known to allow spammers is listed at a website called SORBS. RootsWeb don't allow posts from anything listed at SORBS. right now there have been lots of ISPs, and bigpond is one, that are listed at SORBS, so RotsWeb are blocking your posts. A lot of people are in your position, & very annoyed.

----- Original Message ----- From: "carole douch" <carole.douch@bigpond.com> To: <aus-nsw-hunter-valley@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 3:57 PM Subject: [HV] Pioneer Books > Does any one know if there are Pioneer Registers for the Ulludulla,Milton > areas, this is the only site I can access for some reason > Carole We have the Shoalhaven Pioneers book ( s ........... think there are 2 ? ) and there are a couple for the Wollongong area and Bega Valley at the Central Coast FHS library. Will be over there this Saturday if you want a look up done bye MargM Hunter Valley List Admin

Dear Carole, I have been having trouble with Rootsweb, trying to send messages also. Cathy Dunn, office@scpromotions.com.au may be able to help. Sincerely, Bill > Does any one know if there are Pioneer Registers for the Ulludulla,Milton > areas, this is the only site I can access for some reason > > Thanks carole

Does any one know if there are Pioneer Registers for the Ulludulla,Milton areas, this is the only site I can access for some reason Thanks carole

Looking for connections to my interests in the Hunter Valley. Andrew CALLAGHAN ... Mt. Vincent & Port Macquarie 1814-1841 John CALLAGHAN... Crystal Creek 1823-1872 Henry PERRY ...... Branxton ..Gunnedah... Quirindi 1857-1915 Abraham MILLS.....Mulbring 1817-1902 John COWARD......Merriwa...Quirindi 1875-1960 I have done extensive research on these families and wish to contact any other researchers of these families to verify and exchange information. Regards Mike Harvey Merewether NSW mjharvey@bravo.net.au "Being over the hill is better than being under it." If you forward this correspondence, please delete the forwarding history, which includes my email address. It is a courtesy to me and others who may not wish to have their email addresses sent all over the world. Erasing the history helps prevent Spammers from mining addresses and viruses from being propagated Regards Mike Harvey Merewether NSW mjharvey@bravo.net.au "Being over the hill is better than being under it." If you forward this correspondence, please delete the forwarding history, which includes my email address. It is a courtesy to me and others who may not wish to have their email addresses sent all over the world. Erasing the history helps prevent Spammers from mining addresses and viruses from being propagated

Was wondering if there was anyone researching a Michael Casey who married firstly a Margaret WOOLL and then an Ellen CURRAN. Some associated names are FOLEY, SHEED and BERRIMAN. I am a descendant of Michael and Ellen. Tony Casey

Hi listers there are three indexes (or, indices, if you prefer!) to the Newcastle Morning Herald and Miners' Advocate available at the website of the Newcastle Library. Two have been previously mentioned: 1869 to 1943 http://www.newcastle.nsw.gov.au/services/newcastle_library/local_studies/local_studies_e-resources/newcastle_morning_herald_index described as: "This online index provides title & subject access to articles of local significance appearing in the Newcastle Morning Herald from 1869 to 1943. The index has over 160,000 individual entries." It is searchable on-line using a subject list: http://www2.ncc.nsw.gov.au/library/herald_subjects_1.cfm 1944 - 1984 http://www.newcastle.nsw.gov.au/services/newcastle_library/local_studies/local_studies_e-resources/newcastle_morning_herald_index/newcastle_morning_herald_index_1944_-_1977 described as: "This online index provides title & subject access to articles of local significance appearing in the Newcastle Morning Herald from 1944 to 1984. The digital images are provided as PDF files. ..." Yesterday, I came across another in their digital book section: List of personal names in the Newcastle Morning Herald index 1861 - 1965 http://www.newcastle.nsw.gov.au/services/newcastle_library/local_studies/digital_collections/digital_books2/list_of_personal_names_in_the_newcastle_morning_herald_index_1861_-_1965 These are PDF files each about 1Mb organised alphabetically. Once you download the relevant PDF, you can search within. For example, the first is Abbott to Aquin. Once downloaded, the entries are like this: NAME: ABBOTT. J. P. DATE: 1965.8.5;3 SOURCE: NMH INFO: DIES AT 73. NAME: ABBOTT. J. P. (SIR) DATE; 1897.2I.8;5 SOURCE: NMH INFO; SPEAKER OF N.S.W. LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY. NAME: ABBOTT. JOSEPH (SIR) DATE: 1901.18.9;4 SOURCE: NMH INFO: LATE. NAME: ABBOTT. JOSEPH (SIR) DATE: 1901.16.9;8 SOURCE: NMH INFO: DEATH OF. Again, this resource appears only to index editorial content of the NMH and not advertising such as family notices. It appears to be the work of Jennifer Maria Sloggett and available in hard copy in few places. http://trove.nla.gov.au/work/6165855 Once you have located an item of interest, you have to check the microfilm - but it does guide you to date and page. Regards

Dear Listers I am a direct line from Isreal RAYNER who arrived here free in 1801 with his wife Elizabeth CARPENTER and their 2 daughters Jemima and Sarah Sarah died not long after they arrived and while there has been to this date where and when she was buried I have spent 16 years on and off working on this family and have since found a few things that gives the word excitement of the find a new meaning I now have a copy of the Church marriage of Isreal and Elizabeth The Baptism of Elizabeth to Mary CARPENTER The Birth and Batisim of Jemima and Sarah RAYNER Any listers out there that are interested I am happy to share My other surnames connected to this family are MARTIN, HALE, and RUSSELL MARTIN I have back to the 1700's HALE into the 1700's with connected names in England to the 1500's RUSSELL into the 1700's connected to the 1500's Will any of this be help to any body out there I live in Queensland and will be happy to connect to all that share my lines Yvonne

Hi Margaret Trove? For the time period you are researching, Trove does not cover New South Wales outside of the Sydney Morning Herald (more or less). People researching RUNDLE? http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/RUNDLE http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/aus-nsw-hunter-valley/2007-06/1182827966 You have the death certificate/transcription from 1958 and it doesn't mention the DoB? or are you trying to avoid the cost of buying one of these? (I sympathise, but that may be your answer). Do you have the certificate/transcription of the 1908 marriage? Recently people on this list compiled a large selection of online resources for the Hunter Valley. Have you tried any of them? http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/AUS-NSW-Hunter-Valley/2011-06/1307177810 and follow the thread. I think Terry may be right: there is more than one RUNDLE family in the Hunter Valley. RUNDLEs, the tailors, certainly outfitted me on a few occasions! The Sun Herald of 17 Nov 1996, p.45 carries an article by Vic LEVI, 'We'll save you, boss'. It outlines the financial problems facing the company and efforts by its employees to save it and continues: "Mr Rundle's grandfather, Richard, started the business in 1908 and it has remained in the family's control ever since. "After Richard Rundle died in 1936, his wife Catherine Ellen-Ackers Rundle, ran the business until 1948. "But when she died, her two sons, Nelson (Peter Rundle's father) and Lindsay senior were unable to pay the high death duties and were forced to go public with the company. "The family built up a controlling interest of around 60 per cent and the business is run by Peter Rundle and his cousin, Lindsay Rundle junior." The Newcastle Herald of 30 Aug 2008 in its supplement at p. 15 carried this item under the headline "Home-town pride in the making" "RUNDLE Tailoring is celebrating 100 years of business in Newcastle this year. "The business was started by Richard Thomas Rundle in 1908, the current owner Andrew Rundle's great-grandfather. "'When he started, there were about 28 tailors on Hunter Street alone, so it was very competitive,' Andrew said. "Mr Rundle was one of the first tailors in Newcastle to buy an electric sewing machine. "His machine-made suits, rather than the old-fashioned handmade suits, provided good value for money. "'He was quicker and cheaper and the business grew rapidly,' his great-grandson said. "Richard Thomas Rundle was the son of a London tailor's cutter. His father came out to Australia from London, and had the honour of making the guard's uniform for the inaugural train trip from Central Station to Parramatta in 1855. "Richard moved to Newcastle to take up a position with another tailor. "One of the conditions of the job was that if he left, he was not allowed to work for anyone else in Newcastle for three years, so in 1905 he moved to Bathurst. "A great billiards player, he returned to Newcastle for a competition and with his winnings started Rundle Tailoring. "After his death in 1936, his widow Katherine carried on the business, running it through the tough war years. Her two sons, Lindsay and Nelson, also worked in the family business. "They started to produce their own brand of suits, Hammonton Park, which they distributed as wholesalers as well. "From the 1960s to the 1980s, Rundles grew its wholesale network across Australia with agents or representatives in every state supplying brands such as John Savada and Rundle. "The company grew to about 400 employees and was one of the four largest manufacturers in Australia. "In the 1980s, the company sold suits to the department stores Grace Bros and David Jones and also made suits for Country Road. "It created uniforms for Australia Post, Telecom, the National Australia Bank and Star City casino, along with Qantas. "Rundle Tailoring built a factory at Kotara, where Domayne is located now. "The 1990s were a tough time for the manufacturing industry as a whole. As tariffs came down, the company found it difficult to compete with cheaper imports. The factory was closed by the bank in 1998. "At the auction held to sell the company's assets, the family bought back some of its own manufacturing equipment and started the business again, this time on Hunter Street in Newcastle West, where it's been for 10 years." See also (with photos): http://www.theherald.com.au/news/local/news/news-features/familys-fitting-tradition-marks-100-years/527658.aspx and http://www.rundletailoring.com.au/ Joseph Henry RUNDLE Is he the J H Rundle who was elected as an alderman to Newcastle City Council? If so, the NMH has an item on him in its issue of 17 Jan 1950. Not on Trove. Not online. You'll have to visit a library and check the microfilm for yourself. Regards

I think it was a family concern ,they closed at one stage and now have reopened a store in Hunter Street West Newcastle -------Original Message------- From: Margaret Bauer Date: 18/06/2011 1:18:34 PM To: aus-nsw-hunter-valley@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HV] Joseph Henry Rundle Hi Terry It is from the older generation of the family stories about Joseph having a Retail menswear store in Hunter Street in Newcastle, plus the fact I am sure When I was a child in the early 1940s, I have been there with my mother, but The memory is fairly vague, (which I guess it would, when it is now Something like sixty-eight years later or so). . The thing is I do not know if it was just Joseph himself who had the Business, or if it was a family run business, or what it was exactly yet, And why when checking Trove for some information, I was also hoping an Advertisement for the store in Newcastle might have come up which might have Enlightened me a little more. Bye now Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry" <tandde@aapt.net.au> To: <aus-nsw-hunter-valley@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 12:16 PM Subject: Re: [HV] Joseph Henry Rundle > Good Afternoon, > > How do you know he had a men's wear shop in Newcastle? There could be more > then one RUNDLE ? > > Terry Please remember to snip most of the earlier message before you post any Reply...... Thank you! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-HUNTER-VALLEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Bauer" <bauerm@tpg.com.au> To: <aus-nsw-hunter-valley@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 11:58 AM Subject: [HV] Joseph Henry Rundle > Hi Listers > > Might there be anyone can help me with "Joseph Henry Rundle" he died in > 1958 > at Wallsend in Newcastle and from his death, his time of birth is about > 1871 give a year I guess, incase he had his birthday already at the time > of > the year he died. > Now I know that he had a Retail Menswear Store in Hunter Street, > Newcastle > for many years. Hi Margaret Is one entry in Ancestrys public trees http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/23263199/person/1368138409?ssrc= Doesn't show a date of birth ............. Bye MargM Hunter Valley List Admin

God Afternoon, Yes there certainly was a RUNDLE tailoring business in Hunter=St--(and still is) my wife served her apprentice ship there being indentured to Lindsay RUNDLE. However there were also RUNDLEs in Wallsend who also had a general retailing as my late father was employed by them. Also the 1901 Federal Directory for Newcastle has Rundles as miners in Wallsend. That's as far as I went. Terry www.terrycallaghan.net

Hi Terry It is from the older generation of the family stories about Joseph having a retail menswear store in Hunter Street in Newcastle, plus the fact I am sure when I was a child in the early 1940s, I have been there with my mother, but the memory is fairly vague, (which I guess it would, when it is now something like sixty-eight years later or so). . The thing is I do not know if it was just Joseph himself who had the business, or if it was a family run business, or what it was exactly yet, and why when checking Trove for some information, I was also hoping an advertisement for the store in Newcastle might have come up which might have enlightened me a little more. Bye now Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry" <tandde@aapt.net.au> To: <aus-nsw-hunter-valley@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 12:16 PM Subject: Re: [HV] Joseph Henry Rundle > Good Afternoon, > > How do you know he had a men's wear shop in Newcastle? There could be more > then one RUNDLE ? > > Terry

Hi Bill Yes Mary Jane was Joseph Henry Rundle's wife, she was "Mary Jane Stratford" and her brother "Alfred Venable Stratford" married into a part of my family tree. I am now trying to develop the "Rundle" part of the family as I am told another brother to Joseph "Frederick Rundle" also married into another part of my family tree, and from the records I have located so far, appears to be correct and so I think it is about time I joined all this data together. . I have not done anything about the Rundle family until now and finding that two brothers are now in our family tree is prompting me to at least find more about the Rundle family, and who and where their parents were from etc., and make this part of my research complete. Thankyou Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill" <oldboybill@westnet.com.au> To: <aus-nsw-hunter-valley@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [HV] Joseph Henry Rundle > Dear Margaret, > According to the Probate Index Mary Jane RUNDLE also died a resident of > WALLSEND on 10 Aug 1958. ?? Wife, maybe. > Both have Probate Packets. > Regards, Bill

Dear Margaret, According to the Probate Index Mary Jane RUNDLE also died a resident of WALLSEND on 10 Aug 1958. ?? Wife, maybe. Both have Probate Packets. Regards, Bill > Might there be anyone can help me with "Joseph Henry Rundle" he died in > 1958 > at Wallsend in Newcastle and from his death, his time of birth is about > 1871 give a year I guess, incase he had his birthday already at the time > of > the year he died. > Now I know that he had a Retail Menswear Store in Hunter Street, > Newcastle > for many years. >

Good Afternoon, How do you know he had a men's wear shop in Newcastle? There could be more then one RUNDLE ? Terry >>>>>>>Now I know that he had a Retail Menswear Store in Hunter Street, Newcastle for many years.