Greetings , i was wondering if someone could email me the name of the lady who does photocopying of probates and wills please . Many thanks for your help , regards Paul --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze.

Thank you all for the offers of help for the Qld indexes also I do appologise for pushing the boundries of this list - you have all been really great! an appreciative Sue

----- Original Message ----- From: "steven frape" <sfrape@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-NSW-Hunter-Valley-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 6:52 PM Subject: [HV] access to qld bdm indexes > > Does any one have access to the qld death index - I > would like a look-up for a couple of McIntyre's please? > Hi Sue Mailing lists were set up for specific topics / areas This one for the genealogy and history of the NSW Hunter Valley . To request Qld death info is pushing the goal posts out of the field Suggest you subscribe to AUS-QLD-L-request@rootsweb.com and ask on that Bye MargM Hunter Valley List Admin

Hi all Does any one have access to the qld death index - I would like a look-up for a couple of McIntyre's please? Many thanks Sue

Many thanks to all who responded to my query . I now know quite alot more about the history of the Hunter ! bye MargM Hunter Valley List Admin

Its unlikely that the rder was more than an employee maybe its in the Inverell district ----- Original Message ----- From: "steven frape" <sfrape@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-NSW-Hunter-Valley-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 7:46 PM Subject: Boundry riders, McInytre Run and Koonorigan Farm > Hi all > > I have done a bit more searching on the net. One discovery was a pdf on > Koonorigan farm and McIntyres were a chapter, unfortunately the pdf froze > my computer and had to turn off my pc and for the life of me cannot bring > the pdf up again! > > Also, I found a couple of references to "McIntyre's run" but cant find its > location in NSW and which McIntyre's might have owned it, > As my John was a boundry rider this sounded interesting but I do wonder if > boundery riders would actually own land? > > Has anyone come across these properties in their research? > > Many thanks > Sue >

Hi all I have done a bit more searching on the net. One discovery was a pdf on Koonorigan farm and McIntyres were a chapter, unfortunately the pdf froze my computer and had to turn off my pc and for the life of me cannot bring the pdf up again! Also, I found a couple of references to "McIntyre's run" but cant find its location in NSW and which McIntyre's might have owned it, As my John was a boundry rider this sounded interesting but I do wonder if boundery riders would actually own land? Has anyone come across these properties in their research? Many thanks Sue

Hi All, I have been following the information on the Railway Navvies with interest. My husband is a descendant of Thomas Bray and his wife Sarah nee Landeryou who also came to Australia in 1855 on the 'Blackfriar". I have a copy of an speech titled 'Waratah and the Original Grants by T.A Braye read to the Newcastle and Hunter District Historical Society on the October 1st 1936. The speech was published by the society in their Journal Vol 1 No1 in 1936. In the article T A Braye talks about the history of Waratah and surrounding areas, the vegetation of the area what the area was used for, and the lander owners of various times. On page 120 he talks about some of the men that were engaged in timber getting for the Northern Railway. These families settled on the land somewhere in the region of Smart and Bridge Streets.The families that he mentions are Drinkwaters, Brayes (Brays) , Paynes, Ellis and Jacksons. Mr Braye said that the Brayes arrived there in August 1857. In the Article Mr Braye mentions other names associated with the settlement of the Waratah area. Regards Anne Eccles researching Bray/e, Jacobson, Landeryou, Williams and Wrightson in the Newcastle area > > I have four ancestors arriving in Newcastle on the "Blackfriar" in 1855. > Two > of the male adults had the occupations of excavator and labourer. The > Maitland Mercury, 14/3/1855 records that there were 137 adults and 47 > children aboard, also > > "They have had a very fine weather passage, and the emigrants are > remarkably > healthy, and are for the Hunter's River Railway Company." > >

In brief: In the middle of a gold rush the Hunter River Rail company was trying to build a railway from Newcastle to East Maitland but their navvies kept leaving for the goldfields. So they recruited navvies from England, purchased 300 ton of railway iron and a locomotive engine and put the lot on board the Anglia. Cheers Wendy -----Original Message----- From: MargM [mailto:genknut@optusnet.com.au] Sent: Saturday, 25 February 2006 7:30 AM To: AUS-NSW-Hunter-Valley-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HV] Re: Railway navvies 1855 ?? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard" <hdb@hotkey.net.au> To: <AUS-NSW-Hunter-Valley-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 11:19 PM Subject: [HV] Re: Railway navvies 1855 ?? >Hi Howard > The WIGGINS you mentioned, as it is capitals I assume it > is a surname ? > Of course ! > My reason for asking we have people by that name living > near us and Mrs Wiggins is researching her husbands > family particularly the Irish connection. > This HOLMES family came from Lincolnshire so I guess the WIGGINS sister came from the same area That's insteresing there were 2 ship loads of navvies arrive in 1855 Never stop learning with this hobby Bye MargM Hunter Valley List Admin

Hi Marg and Listers Newspaper details on the Anglia arrival and departing Newcastle, as follows: --------------------------------- Arrival Details (Voyage 4 to Australia) The Barque Anglia, Captain Ball arrived yesterday afternoon from London and anchored in the Horse-shoe. She has railway navvies on board for the Hunter River Rail, also rail &c. Her immigrants 206 in numbers are in good health. An uncertainty exists as to whether the Anglia will remain here or go on to Sydney to land her passengers. The Captain has gone to Sydney, most probably to ascertain the proper course of proceeding. She has nearly 300 tons of railway iron on board, also a locomotive engine. She left on the 15th June and had a tolerable passage: no deaths, except infants and one man drowns off the Cape of Good Hope, and four births. Reference: Sydney Shipping Gazette dated 1 Oct 1855 Departure Details The Anglia departed Newcastle on the 13 December 1855 under the command of Captain Ball for Shanghai with 320 tons coal. Reference: Sydney Shipping Gazette dated 17 December 1855. --------------------------------- Best Wishes Denis ---------------------------------------------- Denis Hare 11 Estate Rd, Middle Park Q 4074 Ph: 07-32793414 Mob: 0419-334535 mailto:dhare@powerup.com.au http://www.au104.com 104 Reunion 2006 - See Web Site ----------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: MargM [mailto:genknut@optusnet.com.au] Sent: Friday, 24 February 2006 5:18 PM To: AUS-NSW-Hunter-Valley-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Railway navvies 1855 ?? Dear Listers The ship 'Anglia' arrived at the Port of Newcastle direct from London 24 Sep 1855. The occupation of just about every male passenger was something to do either building or running a train line ........... Abit like quite a few ships that arrived in the 1850s full of German vine dressers . Am particularly interested in Isaac HOLMES and wife Hannah and chn, Thomas, Mary Ann & Henry who were on this ship . Film # 2468 says he has a sister named WIGGINS already in Newcastle . Have tracked a few WIGGINS ladies and haven't found the right one yet I checked thru the Maitland Mercury to 10 Oct 1855 but could only find a ref in the shipping column to this ships arrival. Was nothing about a whole ship load of excavators arriving . Boyles has a few refs to Maitland rail line but only one before it opened and that was 17 Jan 1860 ......... 500 men working on the line between Maitland & Lochinvar Would Newcastle Library have any info ?? TIA Bye MargM Hunter Valley List Admin ______________________________

Hi to all. I haven't been to the LDS library for ages has anyone been to the Charlestown (Newcastle NSW) branch lately? Is there still a long line waiting for machines now? Do you still have only short periods on the machines if too many people are waiting? Are the hours still the same? Carol in Tenambit. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.0.0/268 - Release Date: 23/02/2006

I had been trying 8 pm to 1 this arvo...I made a call and yep its down.They are doing some minatainence on the site so Im told Christene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny McCarthy" <bardensbay@exemail.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-Hunter-Valley-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 3:53 PM Subject: Re: [HV] BDM site > I just tried the site and could not connect either > > > ..· ´¨¨)) -:¦:- > ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) > ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- > -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´*.` > Jenny McCarthy > Brightwaters N.S.W. > on beautiful Lake Macquarie > > > ==== AUS-NSW-Hunter-Valley Mailing List ==== > Have you sent a short ' Thanks' to who ever helped you ? >

Hi all, I can only get as far as the actual search and then nothing but a blank page....very annoying when I only have an hour to spare. Colleen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny McCarthy" <bardensbay@exemail.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-Hunter-Valley-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 3:53 PM Subject: Re: [HV] BDM site >I just tried the site and could not connect either > > > ..· ´¨¨)) -:¦:- > ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) > ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- > -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´*.` > Jenny McCarthy > Brightwaters N.S.W. > on beautiful Lake Macquarie > > > ==== AUS-NSW-Hunter-Valley Mailing List ==== > Have you sent a short ' Thanks' to who ever helped you ? >

I just tried the site and could not connect either ..· ´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´*.` Jenny McCarthy Brightwaters N.S.W. on beautiful Lake Macquarie

Hello Listers, Is anyone else having trouble accessing the NSW BDM site? Kathryn Rogers

----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard" <hdb@hotkey.net.au> To: <AUS-NSW-Hunter-Valley-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 11:19 PM Subject: [HV] Re: Railway navvies 1855 ?? >Hi Howard > The WIGGINS you mentioned, as it is capitals I assume it > is a surname ? > Of course ! > My reason for asking we have people by that name living > near us and Mrs Wiggins is researching her husbands > family particularly the Irish connection. > This HOLMES family came from Lincolnshire so I guess the WIGGINS sister came from the same area That's insteresing there were 2 ship loads of navvies arrive in 1855 Never stop learning with this hobby Bye MargM Hunter Valley List Admin

Thank you to those that responded both on and off list. Much appreciated. Carol Dale

Marg The WIGGINS you mentioned, as it is capitals I assume it is a surname ? My reason for asking we have people by that name living near us and Mrs Wiggins is researching her husbands family particularly the Irish connection. Howard ----- Original Message ----- From: "MargM" <genknut@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-Hunter-Valley-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 6:18 PM Subject: Railway navvies 1855 ?? > Dear Listers > > The ship 'Anglia' arrived at the Port of Newcastle direct from London 24 > Sep 1855. The occupation of just about every male passenger was something > to do either building or running a train line ........... Abit like quite > a few ships that arrived in the 1850s full of German vine dressers . > > > Am particularly interested in Isaac HOLMES and wife Hannah and chn, > Thomas, Mary Ann & Henry who were on this ship . Film # 2468 says he has > a sister named WIGGINS already in Newcastle . Have tracked a few WIGGINS > ladies and haven't found the right one yet > > I checked thru the Maitland Mercury to 10 Oct 1855 but could only find a > ref in the shipping column to this ships arrival. Was nothing about a > whole ship load of excavators arriving . > > Boyles has a few refs to Maitland rail line but only one before it opened > and that was 17 Jan 1860 ......... 500 men working on the line between > Maitland & Lochinvar > > Would Newcastle Library have any info ?? > > TIA > > Bye > > > MargM > Hunter Valley List Admin > ______________________________

Dear Marg I have four ancestors arriving in Newcastle on the "Blackfriar" in 1855. Two of the male adults had the occupations of excavator and labourer. The Maitland Mercury, 14/3/1855 records that there were 137 adults and 47 children aboard, also "They have had a very fine weather passage, and the emigrants are remarkably healthy, and are for the Hunter's River Railway Company." Regards Alan

Dear Listers The ship 'Anglia' arrived at the Port of Newcastle direct from London 24 Sep 1855. The occupation of just about every male passenger was something to do either building or running a train line ........... Abit like quite a few ships that arrived in the 1850s full of German vine dressers . Am particularly interested in Isaac HOLMES and wife Hannah and chn, Thomas, Mary Ann & Henry who were on this ship . Film # 2468 says he has a sister named WIGGINS already in Newcastle . Have tracked a few WIGGINS ladies and haven't found the right one yet I checked thru the Maitland Mercury to 10 Oct 1855 but could only find a ref in the shipping column to this ships arrival. Was nothing about a whole ship load of excavators arriving . Boyles has a few refs to Maitland rail line but only one before it opened and that was 17 Jan 1860 ......... 500 men working on the line between Maitland & Lochinvar Would Newcastle Library have any info ?? TIA Bye MargM Hunter Valley List Admin