Hi, The Newcastle Regional Library has some biographical information on the Longworth brothers. They arrived on Artemisia in December 1849 with their parents. Their father was contracted to the Australian Agricultural Co as a miner and was killed in the Rix's Creek mine. Wm Longworth treated the surviving passengers of the Artemisia to an annual celebration until his death in 1926. My Walmsley ancestors migrated on the Artemisia and my gggrandfather Joseph Walmsley also was contracted to the AA Co as a collier. P. Pemberton wrote a book titled "Pure Merinos and Others, the shipping lists of the A. A. Co." listing all those brought to NSW by the A. A. Co. which may be of interest to you. Joe

Does anyone have Schubert's in there family trying to find a connection for a Schubert / Roser marriage to see if they are connected to my Schubert family of Merriwa. Thanks in advance Tracie

Hello Peter, My family has Dharug ancestry, and I found out a lot of information from the internet as well as a booklet published by Christopher Tobin. We go back to Maria Lock, her father Yarramundi and his father Gomebeeree. This was a very historical family as you will discover just by "Googling" their names on the internet. I'm sure Christopher will be able to assist with some information for you. His address is :- Christopher Tobin Post Office Box 204 Glenbrook NSW 2773 Another excellent book published by Jim Kohen is "The Darug And Their Neighbours" Best Of Luck in Your Research Tracey Hill

Hoping someone can let me know how I can contact The Dharug and Lower Hawkesbury Historical Society,. ie;- their email and / or snail mail. TIA. Peter.

Dear Listers, This is Part Two of how my brick wall fell recently. Let me remind you that William Francis GOODHEW (WFG) was my great-grandfather on my paternal side. I will tell you his story in reverse by relating his life in the Hunter Valley, before I tell you how his wall tumbled. We knew WFG arrived in Oz in the early 1860s and he married Anne MORGAN on 19 July 1866 at the Newcastle Wesleyan Church. I had his marriage certificate, but the box for their parents was blank. It was less difficult to find Anne's family and I have that as her parents were James MORGAN (1814-1867) and Sarah BROUGHTON (1813-1881) from Bolton Street, Newcastle. As well as Anne they had seven other children; Alice, Elizabeth, Margaret, Mary, Sarah, James and Ellen. Only the girls survived to adulthood. James and Sarah came from the woollen mills of Lancashire, but that's another story. To get back to WFG: From his obituary we know that he worked for a time on the tug service in the Port of Newcastle NSW. He also fossicked the Hunter Valley for minerals with his friend William Longworth. Later Longworth and his brother Thomas formed a syndicate to save the failing Cobar Copper Mines and they owned Singleton Coal & Coke Co. Their main mine was at Rix's Creek, north of Singleton. Coke from that mine was used in the Cobar Copper Smelters. So the Longworth brothers made a fortune in their various business dealings. William was a generous benefactor and he is remembered in Newcastle by the Longworth Institute building in Scott Street that he donated to the people. By my WFG didn't stick with him at the time, so missed out in that fortune. The marriage of WFG and Anne was fruitful and they had twelve children, five daughters and seven sons. All but two of them reached adult age and eight of them had families. Some of the offspring moved to Queensland and one to Sydney, but most stayed in the Hunter. WFG had respected positions in the community. From May 1879 he served as an Alderman in the Municipal Council of Waratah for many years. In 1886 he was a committeeman for the Waratah School of Arts. He was also active in the Grand Order of Oddfellows. He attained Grand Master of this lodge at one stage. More reports in the Newcastle Herald showed that WFG was involved with coal mining, notably at Ferndale Colliery at Tighes Hill. He served on the miners' union there. In May 1896 he was appointed Colliery Manager at Rix's Creek by his old friend William Longworth. When he retired from this position in 1905 he purchased an apple orchard at Canley Vale in Sydney's west. But after just a few years, the pull of the Hunter saw him return to a cottage in Hampden Avenue Adamstown (now renamed Kings Road, New Lambton) near the railway station on the western side. He died at that cottage on 10 June 1914 leaving his widow, three daughters and five sons. That will be enough for now. Next time I will begin to tell you of the crumbling of this brick wall. If any of you listers respond with more info on my family members or something about the Longworth brothers it will be an added bonus for me ... Ron Goodhew, Adamstown.

Hi Melissa. Some time back you asked about the name McDeed. I have that name in my lot. They came from the Harden Murrumburra area Let me know if that can help you. Two McDeed girls married two Cluney brothers. Regards Bet ,-._|\ Betty Tellefson / Oz \ Melbourne, Australia \_,--.x/ btell@tpg.com.au v

Thank You Jo and Helen for this lead I just tried it and the first hit came up with information on a sibling of my GGrandfather. > Also in 1888, Henry Denney bought two small blocks, one on each side of the railway line. He had run the shop across the road from the old school and now had a store erected on the western side of the highway, opposite the station master's residence. His other block, on the eastern side of the line, was later to become the site of Mullard's boarding house and coffee palace, for a time leased by Ann Jones. Then, in 1890, John Arnold Beattie bought two blocks together, on the corner of the realigned highway and Station Street, on which the Royal Exchange Hotel was built. < MargaretB Lake Macquarie NSW Australia

Don't forget to also look for "bloggs joe" as an Exact Phrase. This will find your name in the many alphabetical lists online. Keep in mind that an .au search will EXCLUDE all Rootsweb postings. Much better to also use www.google.com for a world wide search which also gives a better result for images & books on your search topic. You can also restrict your search just to Rootsweb by putting *rootsweb.com*in the Domain Name field. Sorry Marg this is off topic but valuable info for list members. If anyone would like further help please contact me OFFLIST or MargM might go looking for her "Fly Swatter" again <g>. Happy hunting Helen On 05/04/06, Jo Wenden <jwendens@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Hi to all listers, > I want to urge you all, if you are looking for someone who may have > already researched one of your family members, > or any information at all. Try google. http://www.google.com.au/ > > I have just had 2 big successes in as many days. > > Remember to always click the button for search in Australia only. > And if you are looking up a name e.g. Joe Bloggs put it in as so > "joe bloggs" > or, you can click on the advanced search function and you may want to > include a place > so searching for the exact words joe bloggs and also include the > word e.g. windsor > that way you can narrow down your searching if you get a lot of hits. > Just remember that anything you find, no matter how reliable you think > that contact person is, > it still needs to be fully checked and backed up with NSW BDM certificates > etc. > Jo > > > > ==== AUS-NSW-Hunter-Valley Mailing List ==== > Have you sent a short ' Thanks' to who ever helped you ? > >

Hi to all listers, I want to urge you all, if you are looking for someone who may have already researched one of your family members, or any information at all. Try google. http://www.google.com.au/ I have just had 2 big successes in as many days. Remember to always click the button for search in Australia only. And if you are looking up a name e.g. Joe Bloggs put it in as so "joe bloggs" or, you can click on the advanced search function and you may want to include a place so searching for the exact words joe bloggs and also include the word e.g. windsor that way you can narrow down your searching if you get a lot of hits. Just remember that anything you find, no matter how reliable you think that contact person is, it still needs to be fully checked and backed up with NSW BDM certificates etc. Jo

Dear Listers, Funny that MargM asked "Hasn't any one had any 'brick walls' come tumbling down today ?". I haven't written to the list for quite a while, but when I did, I asked for help with my GGF, William Francis GOODHEW (WFG). He was my most aggravating brick wall, having frustrated me for about 18 years. His wall has crashed, but it wasn't "today", but over a few recent months. I have a theory that everybody has brick walls at the very end of all those branches of our tree. But the height of each wall is proportional to the time you have been trying to break them down. So now that I have broken WFG's down, it is replaced with many walls of very small dimensions, up to two generations earlier. My success depended on some perseverance, but more importantly, a whole lot of luck. It is a long story and some of the members of Newcastle Family History Society will remember it well, because I have told them. So I apologise to those who need to read it again here. But it is only a long story if told properly, so maybe I had better put it into serial form and send instalments to this list every so often to inspire you to keep searching, without boring you with a tome in this message. If you are wondering how relevant this is to this particular list, let me whet your appetite with the fact that WFG spent most of his life in the Hunter Valley and currently 'resides' in Sandgate Cemetery. In the next episode I will start his story in reverse, by relating his life in this wonderful valley. Please stay tuned ... Ron Goodhew, Adamstown.

Dear Sharon & List, My apologies to the list. My friend, Greg Ball, has correctly pointed out that my description was of McDougall's Hill near Singleton. "New Freugh" is the other way-down past Whittingham & on the Hwy. Cheers, John Head ----- Original Message ----- From: "John W Head" <john@hcd.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-Hunter-Valley-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 7:26 AM Subject: Re: [HV] New member researching Bull family & others > Sharon > In respect to your query re the location of "New Freugh" > I recall that there was a "New Freugh" hill just outside Singleton on the > highway past Dunolly just north of the town. > For what it is worth... > > John Head > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "G & S Mickelborough" <gsmickel@bigpond.net.au> > To: <AUS-NSW-Hunter-Valley-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 10:41 PM > Subject: [HV] New member researching Bull family & others > > > > Hello everyone, > > This is my first time joining a Mailing List, my focus at the moment is my > Bull line: > > Edward Bull b abt 1795 IOW married Grace Unknown bef. 1816 Shanklin Church > IOW; one of their sons Edmund Bull b Jan 12 1817 Brading IOW, d 1899 Dudley > NSW m (1) Frances Lock Dec 13 1836 Shanklin IOW; (2) m Mary Jane Sands May > 15 1849 New Freugh (can anyone tell me modern day location?) > > > > Edmund and MJ's last child Edmund Edgar Bull b Mar 6 1873 Waratah, d Jan > 16 1941, m (1) Esther Ellen Price; (2) Doris Irene Drinkwater. Edmund & > Doris are my grandparents. If any one has any information on Bull's Garden > I would appreciate it as I'm having difficulty finding any. > > > > Other family research interests: > > James McCurdy/Rachel Richards; John Hall/Amelia Andrews; > > Caroline McCurdy married William Hall > their child Alfred Henry Hall > > > married > > Edward Grimes/Mary McMullen; Robert Evans/ Sinah ? > > Charlotte Grahams married John Evans > their child Ellen Evans > > > > Plus McGowans; Mickelburgh (&many variants) Looking forward to hear from > anyone with the same interests. > > Thanks Sharon > > > > > > ==== AUS-NSW-Hunter-Valley Mailing List ==== > > Please always give a clue to your location. Its one of lifes little > mysteries why so many dont do this > > > > > ==== AUS-NSW-Hunter-Valley Mailing List ==== > Please dont send someone's complete email back to them when you reply > Its a waste of band width >

Sharon In respect to your query re the location of "New Freugh" I recall that there was a "New Freugh" hill just outside Singleton on the highway past Dunolly just north of the town. For what it is worth... John Head ----- Original Message ----- From: "G & S Mickelborough" <gsmickel@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-NSW-Hunter-Valley-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 10:41 PM Subject: [HV] New member researching Bull family & others > Hello everyone, > This is my first time joining a Mailing List, my focus at the moment is my Bull line: > Edward Bull b abt 1795 IOW married Grace Unknown bef. 1816 Shanklin Church IOW; one of their sons Edmund Bull b Jan 12 1817 Brading IOW, d 1899 Dudley NSW m (1) Frances Lock Dec 13 1836 Shanklin IOW; (2) m Mary Jane Sands May 15 1849 New Freugh (can anyone tell me modern day location?) > > Edmund and MJ's last child Edmund Edgar Bull b Mar 6 1873 Waratah, d Jan 16 1941, m (1) Esther Ellen Price; (2) Doris Irene Drinkwater. Edmund & Doris are my grandparents. If any one has any information on Bull's Garden I would appreciate it as I'm having difficulty finding any. > > Other family research interests: > James McCurdy/Rachel Richards; John Hall/Amelia Andrews; > Caroline McCurdy married William Hall their child Alfred Henry Hall > married > Edward Grimes/Mary McMullen; Robert Evans/ Sinah ? > Charlotte Grahams married John Evans their child Ellen Evans > > Plus McGowans; Mickelburgh (&many variants) Looking forward to hear from anyone with the same interests. > Thanks Sharon > > > ==== AUS-NSW-Hunter-Valley Mailing List ==== > Please always give a clue to your location. Its one of lifes little mysteries why so many dont do this >

Hello everyone, This is my first time joining a Mailing List, my focus at the moment is my Bull line: Edward Bull b abt 1795 IOW married Grace Unknown bef. 1816 Shanklin Church IOW; one of their sons Edmund Bull b Jan 12 1817 Brading IOW, d 1899 Dudley NSW m (1) Frances Lock Dec 13 1836 Shanklin IOW; (2) m Mary Jane Sands May 15 1849 New Freugh (can anyone tell me modern day location?) Edmund and MJ's last child Edmund Edgar Bull b Mar 6 1873 Waratah, d Jan 16 1941, m (1) Esther Ellen Price; (2) Doris Irene Drinkwater. Edmund & Doris are my grandparents. If any one has any information on Bull's Garden I would appreciate it as I'm having difficulty finding any. Other family research interests: James McCurdy/Rachel Richards; John Hall/Amelia Andrews; Caroline McCurdy married William Hall their child Alfred Henry Hall married Edward Grimes/Mary McMullen; Robert Evans/ Sinah ? Charlotte Grahams married John Evans their child Ellen Evans Plus McGowans; Mickelburgh (&many variants) Looking forward to hear from anyone with the same interests. Thanks Sharon

Hello, Iam interested in finding information on William WALLACE m Janet McCALLUM 1910 William James WALLACE m Isabel Nimo FERGUSON 1941 Morrison Marshal WALLACE m Thelma may DARCEY 1941 Alexander Clelland WALLACE m Rose HECTOR 1940 or any more children to William and Janet. or Children of any of above. Margaret.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane Cole" <dicole@tech2u.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-Hunter-Valley-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 10:06 AM Subject: [HV] Re: Change topic - Brickwalls . > > Can I find where they lived in Morpeth from 1849 to > 1870? > > Jane Rodford's death certificate (1870) just says High > St and James was a farmer. Did he farm for himself, or > work for another ? > Hi Diane No RODFORDs in the on line 1872 PO Dir http://www.family.joint.net.au/search_greville.php There is an Admin ref to a James RODFORD of East Maitland in the NSW Probate indexes 7367 series 3, 4 Feb 1879 ....... Could well be a probate packet out at Kingswood ?? Maybe some notice in the M Mercury ?? > I am also seeking any descendents of Mary Anne Rodford > and Samuel William Dawson who might still live in the > Hunter Valley, There is a Samuel DAWSON, innkeeper, Lawes St, E Maitland ?? Bye MargM Hunter Valley List Admin

Hello Dennis. Apologies for my late reply to your posting below. I have scant details of a Margaret THOMPSON (daughter of James THOMPSON and Mary Anne McInerney (and alternative spellings), who married a Patrick BRENNAN in 1855 at Maitland, NSW. It seems that they had a daughter: Annie, born at Maitland in 1861, who from the NSW BDM indexes, appears to have died in 1934. Patrick and Margaret are said to have lived in Queensland at some time. Hoping that this might be of assistance. Ray in Sydney. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Johnstone" <dennis@donjon1.demon.co.uk> To: <AUS-NSW-Hunter-Valley-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 11:32 PM Subject: [HV] Cantwell, Brennan, Kenna, McCrohon, Byrne/Byrnes, Cahill ... family connections to the Hunter Valley. My main line in the Hunter are the Cantwells and Brennans, ... If anyone else has connections to these families, I'd be very interested in hearing from them and comparing notes. Dennis Johnstone

Hi Howard I also had the impression that James worked for someone else - so can we find out who had farms within walking distance of High St ? I received a reply from Helen suggesting looking into Land Titles, but that only works if they owned the property - perhaps looking at High St overall, I might get some clues by knowing who owned the properties all along the High St. Will look into Land Titles further at the SAG showcase and keep intouch Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard" <hdb@hotkey.net.au> To: "Diane Cole" <dicole@tech2u.com.au>; <AUS-NSW-Hunter-Valley-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 9:49 AM Subject: Re: Change topic - Brickwalls > Diane > > As you well know I am part of the RODFORD family, a from the marriage of > Sarah RODFORD and Henry Charles BLANDFORD. > > Jennifer and I think James RODFORD may have worked for some one else. Some > thing I have seen said he was a farm labourer, but don't expect me to find > where I have that written. > > Howard > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Diane Cole" <dicole@tech2u.com.au> > To: <AUS-NSW-Hunter-Valley-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 10:06 AM > Subject: Re: Change topic - Brickwalls

Diane As you well know I am part of the RODFORD family, a from the marriage of Sarah RODFORD and Henry Charles BLANDFORD. Jennifer and I think James RODFORD may have worked for some one else. Some thing I have seen said he was a farm labourer, but don't expect me to find where I have that written. Howard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane Cole" <dicole@tech2u.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-Hunter-Valley-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 10:06 AM Subject: Re: Change topic - Brickwalls > Dear Marg and All > > I don't have any brickwalls in the Hunter Valley, as such, as I know where > my g-g-g grandparents and their four daughters came from and when. I know > that the four girls married at St James Morpeth. > > Can I find where they lived in Morpeth from 1849 to 1870? > > Jane Rodford's death certificate (1870) just says High St and James was a > farmer. Did he farm for himself, or work for another ? > > I am also seeking any descendents of Mary Anne Rodford and Samuel William > Dawson who might still live in the Hunter Valley, or indeed, elsewhere. > > Diane Cole > Rydalmere > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "MargM" <genknut@optusnet.com.au> > To: <AUS-NSW-Hunter-Valley-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 9:45 PM > Subject: Change topic > > >> Dear Listers >> >> You are getting off topic ................ Rootswebs help desk suggest >> a large fly swatter can come in handy . Cant find mine at the moment . >> >> Hasnt any one had any 'brick walls 'come tumbling down today ? >> >> Who has a 'brick wall' still standing ? >> >> Bye >> >> MargM >> Hunter Valley List Admin >> > > ______________________________

My ongoing brick wall relates to Mary nee Webster Jenkins-Brennan I have come to the conclusion that she is the one who died at Newcastle Hospital in 1925. The doctor at the hospital completed the details on her death certificate, listing just her age and suburb of residence Hamilton. If this is my Mary no reference to any of her eight children or either marriage to Henry Jenkins or James Brennan are listed on the death certificate. Does anyone know if the records for Newcastle Hospital circia 1925 are held in an archive section of the NSW Health Dept or Newcastle Library? Many thanks Maureen Sunshine Coast Qld

Hi Peter Rev Glennie's journals are online, at least the Singleton part of it. http://www.huntervalleygenealogy.com/Glennie.pdf The first two volumes were printed by Gosford District Local History Study Group, but are now out of print. The Historical Records of the Central Coast was also produced by them and it's ISBN No. 0 7316 0651 5. So you should be able to order a copy on interlibrary loan. MargaretB Lake Macquarie NSW Australia