Dear Listers, This is Part Six of how my brick wall fell recently. So my WFG was still in the Royal Navy in 1862. He was on HMS James Watt. Now, British censuses were taken on ships at sea, as well as land-based addresses. A search of the 1861 census reveals Francis GOODHEW as a Lamp Trimmer on the James Watt, aged 21. It adds up! I more recently engaged a professional researcher in London to search the National Archive for FG's naval record. Some of these admiralty documents are now available online, but the range of years over which FG served have not been digitized yet. ADM139 showed FG was signed up on 18 Nov 1854, born Hoo, Kent and birth date 1 Mar 1840. But we know he fibbed about that. He was 14 years old and taken on HMS Waterloo as a Boy, 2nd Class. It was well worth the $56AUD to get the two pieces of A3 paper to prove it. In the previous episode we found that FG was discharged from HMS James Watt in Jun 1862. His Merchant Navy career began soon after, when he joined the Sarah Newman in the Port of London in Nov 1862. We also now know that he deserted that ship in Newcastle Harbour before March 1863. This FG and my WFG are one and the same. Did he add the forename 'William' to weakly disguise his true identity? We may never know. But I would like to find more about his work on Newcastle Tug Service (between 1863 and 1866). While on the subject of forenames: it was common in those days to name the first born son after his paternal grandfather and the first born daughter after her maternal grandmother. It is not proof, but it adds further evidence to confirm this discovery, that WFG and Anne followed this practice to the tee. Their first born of twelve children was a boy and his name was George William, after his grandfather and father. The second was a daughter and she was Sarah Anne, after the Morgan side of our family. Incidentally, I was able to strengthen my knowledge of WFG's origins and to extend my tree branch two more generations, with the aid of Parish Records in Kent. Tune in for that in the final episode ... Ron Goodhew, Adamstown.

Last year Maitland Family History Group called for submissions to be included in a pre 1901 Pioneer Register. Can someone tell me if it has in fact been published if so the cost and how I can obtain a copy. Thanks, Peter

I know they extended the time for submissions to December 31, 2005, so probably it will be later than first expected. You might want to email someone at the Maitland Family History Circle site for an update: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ausmfhc/index2.html Julie in San Diego > > From: "Peter & Gwen" <frasbate@mpx.com.au> > Date: 2006/04/14 Fri AM 01:51:10 EDT > To: AUS-NSW-Hunter-Valley-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [HV] Maitland Pioneer Register > > Last year Maitland Family History Group called for submissions to be included in a pre 1901 > Pioneer Register. Can someone tell me if it has in fact been published if so the cost and how > I can obtain a copy. > > Thanks, Peter > > > ==== AUS-NSW-Hunter-Valley Mailing List ==== > Be creative about subject headers . These are your advertisement > >

Dear Listers, This is Part Five of how my brick wall fell recently. Remember we had a gender contradiction for Francis in the 1841 and 1851 census returns? They said FG was a girl and IGI said FG was a boy. How could the census be wrong twice? We could check the 1861 census, but it was thought that WFG was already on his way to OZ by then. More on this later. My friend Graham is a member of Genes Reunited (http:// www.genesreunited.co.uk/) and I didn't know a thing about it at that stage. Incidentally, it is well worth the $20AUD for a year's subscription, especially if you have British ancestors. Graham did a search for Francis GOODHEW and came up with Eric. Sure enough Eric was looking for the same family as Josephine. Eric's great- grandmother was Ellen GOODHEW, the next older sister of my Francis. Graham wrote to Eric and referred him to me. Eric sent me images of birth certificates of Ellen and Francis. Much to my surprise (and delight) the birth date for Francis was 8 Sep 1840, exactly the date I had been told (but I didn't know by whom). This was a crucial breakthrough. If nothing else, I now had found another third cousin in the UK. The other thing was that the certificate clearly showed was that Francis was indeed male. His birth place was Hoo, Kent. Eric has since sent me photos of his GGM, Ellen, and we have been studying them carefully to discern any family resemblance. Now, let's look at the Naval Service issue. WFG's obituary clearly states that he was involved in the Indian Mutiny. A search of the Internet revealed that there is a site that lists the medal recipients from that conflict. There was a William GOODHEW, but he was from the 12th Lancers (Prince of Wales's) Regiment. Army, not the navy?? This list was compiled by one, Kevin Asplin. I wrote to Kevin and he replied saying that he had also written a book on the 2nd China War. In it he had a Francis GOODHEW and that ships sent to the Indian Mutiny of the time were often sent on to the China War. Kevin told me that this Francis Goodhew was born in Hoo, Kent in March 1840 and he was a Boy in the crew of HMS Nankin during the campaign. He was later transferred, back in England, to the depot ship HMS Victory moored in Portsmouth Harbour in 1859. Francis was on board the HMS James Watt in June 1862 when his medal was sent. This ship was also paid off on that date and he would have been free to join a civilian ship. Notice that the birth date conflicts with what we now know was his true birth date of 8th Sep 1840. I believe FG told a white lie about his age to enable him to enlist in the Royal Navy six months earlier than he should have! Are we getting closer, or what? More to come ... Ron Goodhew, Adamstown.

There was a of Harold J Davoren who helped set up the Sparkling Vale vineyard in 1921 for Penfolds. Sparkling Vale was half way between Maitland and Cessnock in the area now know as Lovedale. John Goswell >I would greatly appreciate a check of the following family names, where >mentioned, with names and time span. >These families married and lived mostly in Morpeth which I believe could >be represented in the above book. > >TANGNEY any GALLAGHER any. >DAVOREN any > >Thanking you in advance >Joan >Qld

Hi to all on the list. Does anyone on the list have contact with June Northcote who is related to the Charlton family. Another researcher made contact with her but has misplaced her address etc. Can anyone help. Thanks Carol in Tenambit. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.1/307 - Release Date: 10/04/2006

Hi Lsters Could some kind person with access to their local Library that have the pre registration to 1856 in Micro film, please check the marriage details for me Mary died 11 June 1914 Tinonee, Manning Shire, District of Taree, New South Wales, Australia second husband Angus McGREGOR died some time between 1856- 1858, can not seem to find record of his death nor births of their three children, ANN, DUGALD and AGNES between 1852 - 1857 Angus Live in the Hunter Region so do not know if he moved from there or died there ? would greatly appreciate help NSWPI PIONEERS SERIES - MARRIAGES - 1788-1888 +----------------------------------------------------------------- ¦ RECORD #1 OF 2 ¦ SURNAME MCGREGOR ¦ GIVEN NAME(S) ANGUS ¦ SEX MALE ¦ INDEX YEAR 1852 ¦ SPOUSE SURNAME GILLIES ¦ SPOUSE GIVEN NAME(S) MARY ¦ SPOUSE SEX FEMALE ¦ DENOMINATION PRESBYTERIAN ¦ PARISH SYDNEY, SCOTS CHURCH (PITT STREET) ¦ VOLUME REFERENCE V1852832 80 ¦ REGISTRATION YEAR 1852 ¦ REGISTRATION NUMBER 0 ¦_____________________________________________________¦ Thanks Rod

Hi Joan, I found the following names in the Cessnock Pioneer Reg: DAVERON - John Stephen GALLAGHER - Sarah GALLAGHER - William M Colleen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan Meynell" <jmeynell@cyberwizards.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-Hunter-Valley-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 11:27 AM Subject: [HV] Maitland Pioneers Look-up > Hi to someone with a copy of the "*Maitland District Pioneers Register Pre > 1900*" > > I would greatly appreciate a check of the following family names, where > mentioned, with names and time span. > These families married and lived mostly in Morpeth which I believe could > be represented in the above book. > > TANGNEY any GALLAGHER any. > DAVOREN any > > Thanking you in advance > Joan > Qld > > > ==== AUS-NSW-Hunter-Valley Mailing List ==== > If you change email addresses, you should unsub from all mailing lists > then later resubscribe with your new email address >

Hi Sharon, Bulls Garden Road Whitebridge (a suburb next toDudley) was known as Bulls Garden when I grew up in the area, I beleive it was named after the family. Dianne ----- Original Message ----- From: "G & S Mickelborough" <gsmickel@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-NSW-Hunter-Valley-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 10:41 PM Subject: [HV] New member researching Bull family & others > Hello everyone, > This is my first time joining a Mailing List, my focus at the moment is my Bull line: > Edward Bull b abt 1795 IOW married Grace Unknown bef. 1816 Shanklin Church IOW; one of their sons Edmund Bull b Jan 12 1817 Brading IOW, d 1899 Dudley NSW m (1) Frances Lock Dec 13 1836 Shanklin IOW; (2) m Mary Jane Sands May 15 1849 New Freugh (can anyone tell me modern day location?) > > Edmund and MJ's last child Edmund Edgar Bull b Mar 6 1873 Waratah, d Jan 16 1941, m (1) Esther Ellen Price; (2) Doris Irene Drinkwater. Edmund & Doris are my grandparents. If any one has any information on Bull's Garden I would appreciate it as I'm having difficulty finding any. > > Other family research interests: > James McCurdy/Rachel Richards; John Hall/Amelia Andrews; > Caroline McCurdy married William Hall their child Alfred Henry Hall > married > Edward Grimes/Mary McMullen; Robert Evans/ Sinah ? > Charlotte Grahams married John Evans their child Ellen Evans > > Plus McGowans; Mickelburgh (&many variants) Looking forward to hear from anyone with the same interests. > Thanks Sharon > > > ==== AUS-NSW-Hunter-Valley Mailing List ==== > Please always give a clue to your location. Its one of lifes little mysteries why so many dont do this >

Hi to someone with a copy of the "*Maitland District Pioneers Register Pre 1900*" I would greatly appreciate a check of the following family names, where mentioned, with names and time span. These families married and lived mostly in Morpeth which I believe could be represented in the above book. TANGNEY any GALLAGHER any. DAVOREN any Thanking you in advance Joan Qld

Dear Listers, This is Part Four of how my brick wall fell recently. There was this clue for my WFG, in the rumour of him possibly deserting a ship. During a visit to our NFHS library, I was handed the "Ships Deserter" book. Sure enough there was a Francis GOODHEW listed as deserting the "Sarah Newman" in March 1863. Would you believe this happened in the Port of Newcastle, NSW? The timing seemed OK (married in 1866) and certainly the place couldn't be better. Did my WFG like what he saw when his ship berthed at Newcastle and figured he could easily spend the rest of his life at this place? I looked up the shipping list for the Sarah Newman on the website http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/, and there was Francis GOODHEW, as an Ordinary Seaman on the voyage from London to Sydney departing 15 Nov 1862. Wow! The only glitch is that his age is shown as 32. My WFG would have been 22 years at that time. Is this a simple clerical error? Certainly evidence was strengthening that I should be looking for Francis GOODHEW back in Kent. The next step is a sidetrack. I decided to register for the 2006 GRD (it will appear in May). At the time I purchased a back copy for 2004. Marking up my surnames I found a THEAKER. Now that is not a common name (good for genealogy). The contact was Graham C from Melbourne, who conveniently listed his email address. Emailing Graham, I found he very helpfully extended my THEAKER ancestry by two generations - my THEAKERs coming from Yorkshire and his from Shropshire. But the significance was that I happened to mention in passing that I had a frustrating brick wall in my GOODHEW branch. Graham eagerly asked for details, because his real passion is breaking down brick walls. Was my luck in that day? No mistake. Graham understood how the Internet resources worked and he had a friend, John R., of Brisbane who had other resources and they worked as a team, as it were. Within days Graham had found the family mentioned on the IGI and where they lived via the 1841 and 1851 census returns. The problem is that the census images clearly showed that my Francis was spelt "Frances" and the age (9 months & 10 years resp) was clearly written in the "Female" column. But the sibling names checked out and were aligned to those of Josephine (remember her 'Emma' from a previous episode of this story?). More confusion, conflicting gender. There will be more to this drama to come ... Ron Goodhew, Adamstown.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Bamforth" <karentherese@ozemail.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-Hunter-Valley-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 8:39 PM Subject: [HV] Death of Eda Stewart in Hamilton > Hi Listers, > > I was wondering if SKS out there would be able to do a > couple of look-ups for me regarding the following - > > EDA ALICE STEWART died in 1953 in Hamilton, NSW. > Her husband was, > CHARLES THOMAS STEWART - not sure when he died. Looks like 1963 Lambton , son of Thomas & Georgina > If anybody can find out where they are buried in > Newcastle, Neither were at Beresfield ............... Chas Thom STEWARTs at Sandgate 19 Aug 1963 aged 88 ........ C of E sec 191 grave 52 but cant find Eda bye MargM Hunter Valley List Admin

Dear Listers I wondered in any one had any connections to the family of Thomas and Charlotte DORSE who arrived here as assisted migrants in 1857 . They had nearly a dozen kids all b Dungog so must be a few descendants out there Thanks Bye MargM Hunter Valley List Admin

Hi Listers, I was wondering if SKS out there would be able to do a couple of look-ups for me regarding the following - EDA ALICE STEWART died in 1953 in Hamilton, NSW. Her husband was, CHARLES THOMAS STEWART - not sure when he died. If anybody can find out where they are buried in Newcastle, I'd really appreciate it. Also if there is an obituary available for both. There may also be the surname of ROBINSON & DUMONT also buried near them - this info also appreciated!! Also, if there is any record of where they (Eda & Charles Stewart) lived in Hamilton prior to their deaths. Eda was previously married to Thomas Robinson of Wallsend. They had the following children - Edna, Thomas, John, George, Alma & Jean. If anyone out there knows of the above families, I would love to hear from you also. Thanks in advance!! Regards, Karen Bamforth. karentherese@ozemail.com.au

The mother of Edward Mead was Mary Yardley, Mary was the half sister to Isaac Crump, Isaac was my great great grandfather. Cassandra Clementina Douglas is the daughher of Harriet Forner who was first married to John Ferguson and on his death married the man who work on the property William Douglas. Harriet is my great great grandmother. Harriet (Forner/Ferguson/Douglas) son John Duncan Feguson married Matilda Crump daughter of Isaac Crump and Phillis Craft. John Albert Amos Beaven married Henrietta Jane Ferguson and she is my grandmother. What relation am I to Edward Mead and Cassandra Douglas.? How about that for a puzzle, must be lots of other families intermarried like this, feel like sharing

Hi Wayne, The following website has Angus and Sarah McInnes listed and their children: ANN b. 1840, JANET b. 1845 and ISABELLA b. 1852 www.clan-cameron.org.au Our Ancestor Margaret Wells married Alexander Cameron 1872 and they had 14 children most born in Tamworth. Regards Colleen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wayne Cameron" <alpha_b@westnet.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-Hunter-Valley-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 8:28 PM Subject: [HV] New Lister > Hi Listers, > I'm new to the list and I'm researching Angus and Sarah CAMERON who lived > and worked at RoseBank Estate near Hinton 1838-1858. > Regards, Wayne > > > ==== AUS-NSW-Hunter-Valley Mailing List ==== > For other AUS mailing lists go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/AUS >

Dear Listers, This is Part Three of how my brick wall fell recently. I have told you who William Francis GOODHEW (WFG) was and how he lived most of his life in the Hunter Valley. My problem was that I couldn't find evidence of his origins until December of last year. What did I know of him before that? Well, from a combination of Family 'Myth' and his obituary, I knew he was born in Kent, England (but not exactly where). I had a birth date of 8 September 1840, but I didn't ever know where that information came from. The obit said he joined the Royal Navy and was sent to the Indian Mutiny in 1857. There was a rumour that he had deserted ship. The other things I knew I have already told you in previous parts of this story. I had attempted many times to have British records searched. I even paid for a search back in the days when the PRO was at St Catherine's. It came back negative for birth/baptism of William Francis GOODHEW. More recently I had teamed up with a lady from Hastings, whose husband's grandmother was a GOODHUGH. She had searched many parish records and had no William or Francis GOODHEW in her computer database she was compiling on her findings. When we visited Britain in 2001 I spent a day with her at the Centre for Kentish Studies, Maidstone. After much microfilm spinning, no sign of WFG. But then a single day was never going to be enough. In 2002 I noticed an entry in the Goodhew Family Genealogy Forum from a Josephine, who was looking for a GOODHEW family who included her great-grandmother, Emma. The list of siblings included Francis baptised in 1840. He was the youngest of nine. This looked mildly promising, but at this stage I was still looking for William Francis. The IGI showed this Francis baptised 10 Oct 1840, so that could be likely, since my WFG was supposedly born on 8 Sep 1840. But I didn't take this too seriously at the time. Since he had joined the Royal Navy, I had a UK email contact, who was visiting the National Archive, check for record of his enlistment, but no sign of my WFG. General confusion, but no identification. There's more ... Ron Goodhew, Adamstown. PS: Thanks to Neale Ferguson and Joe Greaves for valuable feedback.

Posted to wrong address. Please reply to Heather not to me Thank you Bye MargM Hunter Valley List Admin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Macdonald Family" <jhksd5@bigpond.net.au> To: <AUS-NSW-Hunter-Valley-L-request@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 5:50 PM Subject: ECKFORD > is there anyone on the list researching the ECKFORD's? > > original immigrant - William from Ecksford Scotland who > came to Newcastle and was the 1st Harbour Pilot. > > most of his descendants are buried in East Maitland > area. > > I am asking on behalf of a friend so will pass on any > replies to him. > > regards > Heather Macdonald

Joe, Was George Walmsley one of yours then? I have a 2C3R Catherine Cantwell (daughter of James Cantwell and Bridget Ellen Benson) who married a George Walmsley in 1918 at Hamilton. I believe he died in 1919 and that she later married Lancelot Beckingham in 1927 at Hamilton. I haven't confirmed this other than via the BDM website and have yet to research them in detail, but after reading your email I wondered if there was a link? Dennis > > From: "Joe Greaves" <jgre6591@bigpond.net.au> > Date: 8 April 2006 08:44:35 BDT > To: AUS-NSW-Hunter-Valley-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Brick Walls - falling - GOODHEW Pt2 > > > Hi, > > The Newcastle Regional Library has some biographical information on > the Longworth brothers. They arrived on Artemisia in December 1849 > with their parents. Their father was contracted to the Australian > Agricultural Co as a miner and was killed in the Rix's Creek mine. > > Wm Longworth treated the surviving passengers of the Artemisia to > an annual celebration until his death in 1926. > My Walmsley ancestors migrated on the Artemisia and my > gggrandfather Joseph Walmsley also was contracted to the AA Co as > a collier. > > P. Pemberton wrote a book titled "Pure Merinos and Others, the > shipping lists of the A. A. Co." listing all those brought to NSW > by the A. A. Co. which may be of interest to you. > > Joe > ______________________________ Dennis Johnstone Stonehead Croft Insch Aberdeenshire AB52 6LP Tel: 01464 821128 Email: dennis@donjon1.demon.co.uk Blog: http://stonehead.wordpress.com

Hi Listers, I'm new to the list and I'm researching Angus and Sarah CAMERON who lived and worked at RoseBank Estate near Hinton 1838-1858. Regards, Wayne