----- Original Message ----- From: "Wendy" <oziewoo@bigpond.net.au> To: "Hunter Valley List" <AUS-NSW-Hunter-Valley-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 9:57 AM Subject: [HV] Maitland Asylum > Just need a bit of guidance as to where I would start > looking for the hospital and inquest records relating to > Catherine Lilley (nee Carmody) who died from chronic > dysentry in the "Benevolent Asylum" on 22 November 1859 > (as per death certificate) . Her death certificate has a > note that an inquest into her death was held. Hi Wendy I first checked in a slim book the Maitland FHC published a while back ' Death in the Hunter' Inquests in the Maitland area 1834 -1942 . Couldnt find this Catherine LILL(E)Y . Then looked up the BDMs with the same result ??? I eventually found the baptisms of a Patrick and Sarah chn of John & Catherine LILL(E)Y but not of any Mary Ann State Records out at Kingswood are keepers of surviving inquest files and published indexes on film to 1942 . These films would be in larger libraries The certificate gives no clues as to the whereabouts of this "Benevolent Asylum" or the "Presbyterian Cemetery" where she was buried. Catherine lived in the >Patrick Plains, Singleton area and I'm assuming that it was the Maitland >Benevolent Asylum. Someone who knows the history of this area better than I do would have to answer that >. > Also Catherine left behind two daughters Sarah aged 11 > and Maryanne aged 15. Can anyone point me in the right > direction as to what may have happened to these > children? By 11 &15 years they probably would have been working ....... cant find a marriage record for any Mary Ann? A Sarah LILLY married a Wm MANN in 1862 Wollombi ?? I've had no luck with online orphan records. (Catherine's husband John had died in 1850 and as both Catherine and John were ex convicts Would appear he came here on the Minerva and she on the Pyramus. Its always a good move to include the ships names when writing about even ex convicts as these names were part of their identity . Someone with a different email addy to yours has claimed both on Claim a convict > Cheers Wendy > Another good move is to include clue as to your location ......... You might be from beautiful down town Darwin , Exmouth WA , etc and not within a bulls roar of any NSW State Records building or a library that has their films Bye MargM Hunter Valley List Admin

Hi Karen How you put your family history together is very much determined by the story itself. It can be a straight lineal story - parents, then the children, then the descendants. Or it can be a merging of a number of different families which intermarried, and you want to present the stories and family tree information about each family. There are a few websites which are a great help in how to write it – such as http://www.writerswrite.com/journal/jul02/edwards5.htm http://www.genwriters.com/write.html I have now published 3 family histories and each was different. One was lineal; one was the merging of 4 families presented as 4 parts; and one was a convict story so the convict system (Certificates, assignments) played a big part. Experience now tells me that you really need to start with a general background chapter (it can be only 6 pages) explaining where your family came from and why they came to Australia, including general information on the convict or colonial or immigration systems which would have influenced their lives. Lots of family photos will make the book come alive, and the Title of the book (make it relevant, not too general) and the cover imagery are also important. My general pattern for my books was 1. Title pages with Contents, contact details for future orders, ISBN, CIP. 2. Background chapter 3. First generation 4. Second generation and their descendants 5. Family trees 6. Appendices – general stuff that relates to the lives of one or more of the descendants – things such as war records, history of the Irish famine, the assignment system, Parramatta female factory … whatever is relevant. 7. Index – detailed is best 8. About the author – with photo If you are telling the stories of more than one family, then items 2 – 6 are repeated in the separate sections for each family. This is explained in the Introduction to the book in the Title pages (different to the Background chapter) and Contents pages When you are ready to publish it, talk to me again. I now use my contacts in the industry – here and overseas – to help other people publish their family and local histories at the best quality and price. Happy to talk about it when you are ready. Have a look at my website and click on each of my books – it may give you some ideas. Good luck with it. Regards Margaret THINKING OF PUBLISHING??? - I CAN HELP CREMORNE1.COM Self-Publishing Sydney (NSW) & Sunshine Coast (Qld), Australia Tel: (+61-2 or 02) 9904 1829 OR (+61-7 or 07) 5446 0628 Email margaret@cremorne1.com Website: www.cremorne1.com This email was sent: 20/08/2006 2:22 PM (Sydney time) -----Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-hunter-valley-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-hunter-valley-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Karen Bamforth Sent: Sunday, 20 August 2006 11:30 AM To: AUS-NSW-SURNAMES-L@rootsweb.com; AUS-NSW-SYDNEY-L@rootsweb.com; AUS-NSW-Hunter-Valley-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HV] Surnames being Researched Hi Everyone, Thought I would post my surname interests again to see if anyone has a connection. BAMFORTH, ROBINSON, BANCROFT, HOBDAY, DODD, WEBB, QUARTERMAN, NICHOLLS, DUMONT, OWEN, MAURER, KEAN, JOHNSTON. Some of the areas where the surnames resided are - STANFORD MERTHYR, KURRI KURRI, WALLSEND, NEUTRAL BAY, WOLLONGONG, ROCKDALE, KOGARAH, BUNDARRA, CONCORD, LAMBTON, MEREWETHER, RANDWICK. I can be reached off the list at - karentherese@ozemail.com.au I am starting to write a family history book on these families which are connected through the BAMFORTH family. If anyone has any ideas of writing a family history book, how to put things together etc. I'd be very greatful for any help or suggestions!! Thanks in advance. Regards, Karen Bamforth ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-HUNTER-VALLEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.3/423 - Release Date: 18/08/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.3/423 - Release Date: 18/08/2006

Does anyone know the location of Arlington Private Hospital from the 1940's? I believe it was in Adamstown. There is a newish town house develpoment in Teralba Rd called "Arlington Row". Is there some connection? --------------------------------- John Henderson Newcastle, N.S.W. Australia

Hi Everyone, Thought I would post my surname interests again to see if anyone has a connection. BAMFORTH, ROBINSON, BANCROFT, HOBDAY, DODD, WEBB, QUARTERMAN, NICHOLLS, DUMONT, OWEN, MAURER, KEAN, JOHNSTON. Some of the areas where the surnames resided are - STANFORD MERTHYR, KURRI KURRI, WALLSEND, NEUTRAL BAY, WOLLONGONG, ROCKDALE, KOGARAH, BUNDARRA, CONCORD, LAMBTON, MEREWETHER, RANDWICK. I can be reached off the list at - karentherese@ozemail.com.au I am starting to write a family history book on these families which are connected through the BAMFORTH family. If anyone has any ideas of writing a family history book, how to put things together etc. I'd be very greatful for any help or suggestions!! Thanks in advance. Regards, Karen Bamforth

Hi, I was wondering if SKS would be able to send me a list of the following surname & grave number etc. ROBINSON (all names) - WALLSEND CEMETARY ROBINSON (all names) - WEST WALLSEND CEMETARY I did post a message a long time ago about the Wallsend cemetary, but have misplaced that list & would appreciate if anyone could send this to me, along with the West Wallsend cemetary list. Also, if anyone has a map of the WEST WALLSEND Cemetary would be great. Could you please contact me off the list at - karentherese@ozemail.com.au THANKS IN ADVANCE!! Regards, Karen Bamforth.

Hi Kaye Was it your post that enquired about Arnotts Biscuits? I missed the question, only received the answer. The Lake Macquarie & District Historical Society have in their collection a hard cover book printed by Arnotts P/L titled, Arnott's 125 years of making biscuits, published 1994. We also have a small collection of Arnott memoriabilia. Toronto NSW, was where the Arnott families had their holiday homes, and many a picnic train would transport the workers to Toronto for a picnic, circa 1906. You should be able to borrow this book from any library, but if not, contact the Society. MargaretB Lake Macquarie NSW Australia

Have you tried contacting Arnotts themselves? If they don't have an archive, they should be sacked! Places like the National or State Library or other archive places should have copies of all that kind of very important Australian history somewhere too. Just write letters or phone up if someone on the list doesn't know anything better for you. Lynette Lynette Begg P.O. Box 289 East Maitland NSW 2323 Australia BROBBEL One Name Study - brobbel@one-name.org Guild of One Name Studies www.one-name.org member 4139 researching BROBBELs worldwide from all time periods. SUTHERLAND Family Reunion for descendants of Robert SUTHERLAND and Grace LOUTFOOT / LIGHTFOOT on 14th & 15th October 2006 at St. John's Centre, Morpeth NSW Australia. Their grandchildren's surnames SUTHERLAND, HOY, RODEY, TICKLE, SMITH, WINTERS, HENDERSON, WESTWATER, SMART, PETERSON, ISLES and MEDEW. http://www.geocities.com/sutherlandreunion New England surnames from late 1800s - BERRY, BRIDGE, CARTER, CHERRY, EGAN, FARDELL, FENERTY, FRANCIS, GODLEY, GOODWIN, HANSEN, HATCH, HAYDON, HERON, HOLDER, HOY, HUNTER, JONES, KELLY, LISLE, McMILLAN, OGILVIE, RODEY, SCOTT, SMITH (James from Niangala), STEIR, SUTHERLAND, TICKLE (Henry from Quipolly), WADDS, WEBB, WINTERS, WOOD, WRIGHT -----Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-hunter-valley-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-hunter-valley-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of MargM Sent: Saturday, 19 August 2006 11:17 AM To: aus-nsw-hunter-valley@rootsweb.com; heartseas@bigpond.com Subject: Re: [HV] [AUS-NSW-HUNTER-VALLEY] Arnotts bickies My late father-in-law was one of the babies whose photograph was on the top of the Arnott's biscuit tins. He was born in Plattsburg now Wallsend) in 1900.Does anyone know if copies of those photographs are available?

I knew there was something I usually watch that I missed last night. Thanks Marg, you just reminded me................ Kaye www.bananatv.com/familytreechecklist.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "MargM" <genknut@optusnet.com.au> To: <aus-nsw-hunter-valley@rootsweb.com>; <heartseas@bigpond.com> Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [HV] [AUS-NSW-HUNTER-VALLEY] Arnotts bickies

----- Original Message ----- From: "Marie Young" <heartseas@bigpond.com> To: <aus-nsw-hunter-valley@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 9:38 AM Subject: Re: [HV] [AUS-NSW-HUNTER-VALLEY] Newcastle Wesleyan Church > My late father-in-law was one of the babies whose > photograph was on the top > of the Arnott's biscuit tins. He was born in Plattsburg > (now Wallsend) in > 1900.Does anyone know if copies of those photographs are > available? Hi Marie On last night 'Collectors' program on ABC TV was a bloke who collects Arnotts bickie tins ................... Bye MargM Hunter Valley List Admin

Have you contacted Arnotts. They would probably have some sort of archive........... Kaye www.bananatv.com/familytreechecklist.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "

My late father-in-law was one of the babies whose photograph was on the top of the Arnott's biscuit tins. He was born in Plattsburg (now Wallsend) in 1900.Does anyone know if copies of those photographs are available? Marie

Hi Ron, http://www.newcastle.edu.au/service/archives/coalriver/images.html Scroll down to 1849, where you can view an image of the Wesleyan Chapel (also included in the panorama). According to the State Library, this is the Tyrrell Street church. This church is also depicted in James Colwell's Illustrated Histroy of Methodism and is described as "the first chapel (Wesleyan) in Newcastle". If you keep scrolling down to the 1850's, you'll find a link to a pdf image called "Key to the View of Newcastle" .. there is no date that I can see, but you'll find the following churches listed : Primitive Methodist Chapel (No. 21) and Wesleyan Church (No.50). You might be able to glean something from this, altho the pdf is a little grainy. >From John Bingle's Past and Present Records of Newcastle : "the Wesleyan Church was built in Newcomen Street in 1844; the first minister was the Rev. Mr. Lewis; the new church was built in 1863" "the Primitive Methodist Chapel erected in 1855". If you know the ministers name, that might be a further clue ... Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Goodhew" <goodhew@ozemail.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-Hunter-Valley-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 11:27 AM Subject: [AUS-NSW-HUNTER-VALLEY] Newcastle Wesleyan Church G'day Listers, My great-grandparents, William Francis GOODHEW and Anney MORGAN were married at Newcastle on 19 July 1866 at the "Wesleyan Church". The marriage certificate is disappointingly brief, with details like parents' names and occupation totally blank. But that is sent to try we genealogists. It quotes the name of the church, but not its location. However, I was always under the impression that this marriage took place at Hamilton Wesley church, since it seems to be the only local Wesleyan church around. But, while recently researching stories for the Newcastle Family History Society's Journal (I am now its editor), I discovered that there was a Wesleyan Church at the corner of Tyrrell and Perkin Streets at around that era. My research for the story revealed that the church was demolished in 1903 after the government purchased the property. It was considered a navigational hazard because it blocked the view of the leading light tower (which still stands) on the corner of Tyrrell and Brown streets. The leading light towers (the other one was in front of the church in Perkin Street) were used by mariners to located the deepest part of the channel while entering and leaving Newcastle Harbour. The point I would like to clarify, with the help of someone on this list, is whether in fact it was this church in Tyrrell Street where my ggp's were married - and not the Wesleyan church in Beaumont Street, Hamilton. I believe it more likely because Anney MORGAN's family lived in Bolton Street, Newcastle; and the nearby church was more likely to be the family's place of worship. Any clues will be appreciated. Catch you later, Ron

Hi again Ron There is a painting of the church in the Illuminated address to William Arnott. http://libapp.sl.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/spydus/ENQ/PM/FULL1?152904,I MargaretB Lake Macquarie NSW Australia

Dear Ron Just two from a google search, looks like the first one is your time period. http://www.jenwilletts.com/Timeline1797.htm 1844 Wesleyan church built in Newcomen Street, Newcastle. Rev. Lewis first clergyman http://www.pittwaterhouse.com.au/front/print-friendly.php?id_nav=236 T C Lewis of London built five organs for Australia. One of them was the organ now located at Pittwater House which was originally built for the Wesleyan Church in Tyrell Street in Newcastle. The organ was installed there by Charles Richardson in 1886 and opened on 8 March 1887 by George F King, organist of St Mary's West Maitland. In 1903 the organ was relocated by Richardson into the new Central Methodist Hall in King Street, Newcastle (see Graeme Rushworth's Historic Organs of New South Wales, p. 306 for a photograph from this period). MargaretB Lake Macquarie NSW Australia

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G'day Listers, Daryl Lightfoot, are you still a member of this list? I ask this because I believe you are the most likely to know the answer to my question (below). OTOH, there may well be other listers who know the history of our churches. My great-grandparents, William Francis GOODHEW and Anney MORGAN were married at Newcastle on 19 July 1866 at the "Wesleyan Church". The marriage certificate is disappointingly brief, with details like parents' names and occupation totally blank. But that is sent to try we genealogists. It quotes the name of the church, but not its location. However, I was always under the impression that this marriage took place at Hamilton Wesley church, since it seems to be the only local Wesleyan church around. But, while recently researching stories for the Newcastle Family History Society's Journal (I am now its editor), I discovered that there was a Wesleyan Church at the corner of Tyrrell and Perkin Streets at around that era. My research for the story revealed that the church was demolished in 1903 after the government purchased the property. It was considered a navigational hazard because it blocked the view of the leading light tower (which still stands) on the corner of Tyrrell and Brown streets. The leading light towers (the other one was in front of the church in Perkin Street) were used by mariners to located the deepest part of the channel while entering and leaving Newcastle Harbour. The point I would like to clarify, with the help of someone on this list, is whether in fact it was this church in Tyrrell Street where my ggp's were married - and not the Wesleyan church in Beaumont Street, Hamilton. I believe it more likely because Anney MORGAN's family lived in Bolton Street, Newcastle; and the nearby church was more likely to be the family's place of worship. Any clues will be appreciated. Catch you later, Ron My surnames are: GOODHEW, CARROLL, TEASDALE, PHIPPEN, VINCENT, BAILEY, WAKELING, DAVEY, LUXFORD, PAYNE, BOYD, MORGAN, WRIGHT, SPEAR, RAMSTER, ARCHINAL, JOLIFFE, HEWSTON, HODGINS to mention just a few.

I'm trying to contact any BERRY descendants who are also TICKLE descendants. The TICKLE family were living in Quirindi when Grace Ann TICKLE married John Henry BERRY in 1904. They moved to Dungog in the Hunter Valley where their children were born in the early 1900s. Hazel M BERRY married Henry COCKRANE Thelma J BERRY married Henry BATEY Russell John Henry BERRY Wallace Robert John BERRY married Helena GIDDEY I believe some of the descendants may have moved away from Dungog but would love to find any relative at all. Lynette Begg Sutherland Family Reunion Organiser Lynette Begg P.O. Box 289 East Maitland NSW 2323 Australia BROBBEL One Name Study - brobbel@one-name.org Guild of One Name Studies www.one-name.org member 4139 researching BROBBELs worldwide from all time periods. SUTHERLAND Family Reunion for descendants of Robert SUTHERLAND and Grace LOUTFOOT / LIGHTFOOT on 14th & 15th October 2006 at St. John's Centre, Morpeth NSW Australia. Their grandchildren's surnames SUTHERLAND, HOY, RODEY, TICKLE, SMITH, WINTERS, HENDERSON, WESTWATER, SMART, PETERSON, ISLES and MEDEW. http://www.geocities.com/sutherlandreunion New England surnames from late 1800s - BERRY, BRIDGE, CARTER, CHERRY, EGAN, FARDELL, FENERTY, FRANCIS, GODLEY, GOODWIN, HANSEN, HATCH, HAYDON, HERON, HOLDER, HOY, HUNTER, JONES, KELLY, LISLE, McMILLAN, OGILVIE, RODEY, SCOTT, SMITH (James from Niangala), STEIR, SUTHERLAND, TICKLE (Henry from Quipolly), WADDS, WEBB, WINTERS, WOOD, WRIGHT

Hi Would there be sks going to the State Archives in the near futher & is willing to check a deceased estate for me? I am interested in the follow: - GALE A C Victoria 23/10/1899 15/06/1900 Many thanks in advance, Glynis Wheeler Forest Hill, NSW

Can anyone supply more information on this family please. I am happy to share the research I have done to date with the group. Cheers Rhonda Descendants of William George Todhunter Generation No. 1 1. WILLIAM GEORGE1 TODHUNTER died 1854 in Maitland. He married ELIZABETH MORTON COX 1825 in Sydney, daughter of FRANCIS COX and FRANCES MORETON. She was born 1807. WILLIAM GEORGE TODHUNTER: Francis James Todhunter (1831-1904) William Todhunter Born c 1792 Cumberland was a bankers Clerk in London with the firm of Roberts, Curtis, Were, Hornyold, and Berwick, Lombard St. where he knew Francis Cox's family. Accused of stealing a £5 note as a Christmas present for his sister, because the banks were closed. He was found out before he could pay it back over the weekend. Convicted at London Goal, delivery on 18 Sep 1816 to 14 yrs, after confessing his quilt. 5' 10.5",fair complexion, brown hair, Grey eyes. Left England 18 Dec 1816 on ship "Morley" arrived Sydney 10 Apr 1817 - Master Robert R Brown. Ticket of Leave No 1187 Protestant, a clerk in the Commissariat Govt. Stores.Living Cumberland Street, Sydney 1828 Manager Luskintyre Estate owned by W.C. Wentworth Acted as W.C. Wentworth's Agent in Business matters and was resident manager for his Hunter Valley Properties.Died High Street, Maitland aged 65 - 23 July 1853 or 4 No 1860 Vol. 41, will no 2970 Series 1. One of his sons was Francis James Todhunter (1831-1904). Educated at Sydney College but left for the country life. Went to Merrowa Station for 12 months. Then went to Belltrees (head Hunter River). Then worked for W C Wentworth (uncle) at Namoi. After several other stations owned by Messrs Christy and Wentworth he purchased in 1858 a station of 38,000 acres, upon which he depastured 12000 sheep,75 cattle & 20 horses near Warren. Married Cornelia Prout, daughter of a very old and respected resident of Sydney and had 9 kids. Hollow Family Born in Redruth, Cornwall Joseph Hollow (1817-1905) was typical of many Cornish miners who left to pan for gold/tin all over the world (typically Australia, America, Mexico and South Africa). Joseph living at Hicks Row, Redruth in 1841 census and Western terrace, Redruth in 1851 left for Australia in 1853 and dug gold at Beechworth and Eldorado in Victoria, Australia. As conditions improved the remainder of the family followed. The Hollows have spread all over Australia and can be found in: Beechworth, Victoria; Beaconsfield, Tas; Gulgong, NSW; Fitzroy, Vic amongst many other. Colin Hollow's Webpage Details from Colin Hollow WILLIAM GEORGE TODHUNTER: Arrival: 10 Apr 1817, 'Morley; sentence 14 years for embezzlement Occupation: Clerk for the Commissariat in Cumberland Street, Sydney Children of WILLIAM TODHUNTER and ELIZABETH COX are: i. MARY M2 TODHUNTER, b. 1826, Sydney; d. 1826, Sydney. ii. FRANCES TODHUNTER, b. 1827, Sydney. iii. SARAH TODHUNTER, b. 1829, Sydney; m. WILLIAM WILKINSON, 1851, Maitland. iv. FRANCIS JAMES TODHUNTER, b. 1831, Sydney. 2. v. MARIA TODHUNTER, b. 1833, Sydney; d. 26 Aug 1909, Sydney. vi. ELIZABETH SOPHIA TODHUNTER, b. 1834, Sydney; m. GEORGE AUSTRALIA SINGLETON, 1854; b. 1829. vii. WILLIAM GEORGE TODHUNTER, b. 1836, Sydney; d. 1890; m. MARIA SAUNDERS. viii. JAMES TODHUNTER, b. 1838, Sydney. ix. GEORGE TODHUNTER, b. 1842, Sydney. x. HENRY MALLON TODHUNTER, b. 1844, Sydney. Generation No. 2 2. MARIA2 TODHUNTER (WILLIAM GEORGE1) was born 1833 in Sydney, and died 26 Aug 1909 in Sydney. She married (1) EDWARD P J STONE 1856 in St. James' C/E Sydney Rg109 Vol 149. She married (2) JAMES WILLIAM BRAY 18 Jan 1865 in St. Marks, Darling Point, son of THOMAS BRAY and ANN BLOODWORTH. He was born 10 Apr 1822 in Braygrove, Concord, and died 14 Feb 1881 in "James Park' Binda (59). JAMES WILLIAM BRAY: Thomas Bray and his son James, bred horses fror the Indian Market at James Park. He had 8-10 stallions and 300-400 mares. Thete were no fences , men tailed mobs of 50-60 horses all day and at night ;locked them into small paddocks. Many lost horses went wild in the mountains and built up the brumby herd there. Ben Hall, Johnny Dunn and John Gilbert burnt out the properties to the north (Oak ParK) and south (Hyde Park) of James Park but it was left untouched. MR JAMES WILLIAM BRAY He was the first President of the Crookwell A. P. and H Society, and was born at Sydney, 1822, Coming to "James Park" Crookwell 1847, this being the first grant in the district, it having been given to Thomas Bray, father of J.W. Bray, who, along with the late Charles S. Oakes, journeyed to Sydney in 1861 for the purpose of being sworn in as magistrates, they being the first two obligated in the district. The said journey took from 8 to 10 days to accomplish, the conveyance being an old English drag drawn by a 4 -in- hand team. It may be truly said that the late James Bray was one of the Pioneers of the district, his grandfather (the late John Bray) coming to colony 1870, he being in the first regiment to arrive in the colony, and later on, along with his afterwards wife, Mary Bray, were the first Church of England couple married in Australia; (this is incorrect they marred in Ireland and came together on the "Neptune") she was probably the first woman to receive a grant in Australia. The late James Bray for many years Was acting Police Magistrate at Binda, Goulburn, and Berrima. He also occupied his time in breeding horses for the Indian market, taking them to Sydney twice a year. It seems almost incredible that these mobs were taken down by road to Sydney with never more than four men in charge, one in front and two or three behind. These horses would bring an average of 18 pound per head, some would run up to 70 or 100 pound; these, of course would be extra special. Cited Back to Crookwell 1927 Pioneers James William Bray was born in Sydney in 1822. His father, Thomas Bray, had been the original European settler in the Binda area taking up land at James Park, Mount Henry, Yarranoo, Binda Vale and Islington. Bray married Anna Blackman, the daughter of Samuel Blackman of Bigga at Goulburn 1845. They lived at James' Park which he inherited from his father. His first wife died 1859 and he married Maria Stone. Bray was active in Binda community affairs being the chief instigator (with Rowland Oakes) of the Binda National School. Bray was one of the school patrons. He was sworn as a Justice of Peace in 1861 when a Court of Petty Sessions was established at Binda. He also acted as Police Magistrate on the Bench at Binda, Goulburn and later Berrima, where he lived temporally. He was the first President of the Crookwell A. P. & H. Society in 1877. Bray was the original churchwarden at St. James' Church and entertained Bishop Thomas on his first visit to Binda when, on behalf of the people of Binda, he presented a petition to the Bishop pressing for the appointment of a resident clergyman. He was also a Trustee of church land at Binda. He died 1881 and was buried at St' Lukes Concord. His sister Mary Ann Cowper Bray (1828-1904) of "Yarranoo", gave a large book of Communion Prayer for the use in Binda church, and his brother, Henry David Bray (1835-1896) of "Mount Henry" and Concord, gave the large Lectern Bible. Both these books are still in the parish's keeping The Seven Churches of Binda Garnet Webste JAMES WILLIAM BRAY: Burial: 17 Feb 1881, Old St. Saviour's Cemetery, Goulburn Cause of Death: Inflammation of the liver Children of MARIA TODHUNTER and JAMES BRAY are: i. WILLIAM HENRY HERBERT3 BRAY, b. 18 Oct 1865; d. 28 Jun 1929, 14 Ridge Street, North Sydney. More About WILLIAM HENRY HERBERT BRAY: Burial: Gore Hill Cemetery ii. MARIA ALEXANDRIA BRAY, b. 04 Jul 1867; d. 24 Apr 1914, Gore Hill. 3. iii. FRANK ERNEST BRAY, b. 15 Mar 1869; d. 13 Nov 1928, North Sydney. iv. ADELINE MARY BRAY, b. 23 May 1872; d. 13 Nov 1928; m. WILLIAM DERBYSHIRE, 1895, Sydney. Generation No. 3 3. FRANK ERNEST3 BRAY (MARIA2 TODHUNTER, WILLIAM GEORGE1) was born 15 Mar 1869, and died 13 Nov 1928 in North Sydney. He married LELAH EDITH THOMPSON 1906 in St. Leonards. She died 23 Feb 1953 in North Sydney. Child of FRANK BRAY and LELAH THOMPSON is: 4. i. COLIN RODEN4 BRAY, b. 21 May 1907; d. 1991. Generation No. 4 4. COLIN RODEN4 BRAY (FRANK ERNEST3, MARIA2 TODHUNTER, WILLIAM GEORGE1) was born 21 May 1907, and died 1991. He married DELL DEVETTA DAVIES 11 Sep 1937 in St. Thomas Church, North Sydney. Children of COLIN BRAY and DELL DAVIES are: 5. i. JOHN WENTWORTH5 BRAY, b. 1939. 6. ii. ROBYN LOUISE BRAY, b. 1942. Generation No. 5 5. JOHN WENTWORTH5 BRAY (COLIN RODEN4, FRANK ERNEST3, MARIA2 TODHUNTER, WILLIAM GEORGE1) was born 1939. He married HEATHER NEWPORT. Children of JOHN BRAY and HEATHER NEWPORT are: i. ANTHONY JOHN WENTWORTH6 BRAY, b. 1959; d. 1961. 7. ii. ANDREW JOHN WENTWORTH BRAY, b. 1962. 8. iii. DAVID WENTWORTH BRAY, b. 1963. iv. JONATHON VICTOR WENTWORTH BRAY, b. 1965; m. VIRGINIA CATHERINE TULK, 04 Jun 1994, U.K.. 9. v. JAMES WENTWORTH BRAY, b. 1967. 6. ROBYN LOUISE5 BRAY (COLIN RODEN4, FRANK ERNEST3, MARIA2 TODHUNTER, WILLIAM GEORGE1) was born 1942. She married PHILLIP EDWARD BASSINGTHWAIGHTE 05 Mar 1970 in Shore Chapel. Children of ROBYN BRAY and PHILLIP BASSINGTHWAIGHTE are: i. GEORGIA LOUISE6 BASSINGTHWAIGHTE, b. 1971. ii. JON RODEN NORMAN BASSINGTHWAIGHTE, b. 1974. iii. LACHLAN EDWARD BASSINGTHWAIGHTE, b. 1977. Generation No. 6 7. ANDREW JOHN WENTWORTH6 BRAY (JOHN WENTWORTH5, COLIN RODEN4, FRANK ERNEST3, MARIA2 TODHUNTER, WILLIAM GEORGE1) was born 1962. He married SUZANNE MEREDITH HICKEY 18 Mar 1989. Children of ANDREW BRAY and SUZANNE HICKEY are: i. NICHOLAS COLIN WENTHWORTH7 BRAY, b. 1992. ii. GEORGINA KATE BRAY, b. 1993. iii. ALLEY BRAY, b. 1996. 8. DAVID WENTWORTH6 BRAY (JOHN WENTWORTH5, COLIN RODEN4, FRANK ERNEST3, MARIA2 TODHUNTER, WILLIAM GEORGE1) was born 1963. He married CHRISTINA MCKEE in Wellington N.Z.. Child of DAVID BRAY and CHRISTINA MCKEE is: i. GEORGINA STELLA7 BRAY, b. 1997. 9. JAMES WENTWORTH6 BRAY (JOHN WENTWORTH5, COLIN RODEN4, FRANK ERNEST3, MARIA2 TODHUNTER, WILLIAM GEORGE1) was born 1967. He married BARBARA ANNE KRAL 14 Sep 1991 in Hunters Hil. Children of JAMES BRAY and BARBARA KRAL are: i. JACK WENTWORTH7 BRAY, b. 1996. ii. HOLLY ELIZABETH BRAY, b. 1996. iii. SOPHIE BRAY, b. 1998.