Hi John If you put in the online deaths King Father Richard & mother Cam* will bring some up & Com* check up to 1976. It must of been very hard to have so many but to have a lot of them die as babies even harder. Jennette Gest nee Byrne QLD AUS jgest@tpg.com.au ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Rice" <jrice@westnet.com.au> To: <aus-nsw-hunter-valley@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 1:16 AM Subject: [HV] 32 CHILDREN > Hi Listers, > > > > I am researching my GG granduncle, Richard King b1838 and his wife Camilla > Locock b1843. They were married in 1859 at Hexham. I have seen reports in > various internet sites that they had 32 children. I have found 21 in the > BDM > records, the 1st child born in 1860 and the last child born in 1889. I > believe they resided in the Cessnock area. > > Does any other lister have any info re this family ? > > Many thanks > > John Rice > > Hervey Bay Qld > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-HUNTER-VALLEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Christene Thank you for your emails and I will try your suggestion. Regards John -----Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-hunter-valley-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-hunter-valley-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Christene Sent: Tuesday, 23 January 2007 2:06 PM To: aus-nsw-hunter-valley@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HV] 32 CHILDREN hi Did you look at the deaths and match them Camilla is given some variations Commella Cornelia Comalla etc try King just with Richard and C* for the mum I see that they had a few children named after a dead sibling.....as in at least 2 Marys Christene ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-HUNTER-VALLEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Jan, Thanks for the tip and I will have a look at the BDM. It would be a lot easier if the surname was not so common Regards John -----Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-hunter-valley-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-hunter-valley-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jan Gregory Sent: Tuesday, 23 January 2007 1:53 PM To: aus-nsw-hunter-valley@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HV] 32 CHILDREN Sometimes, if an unmarried daughter had a child, the baby was registered with parents' names which were actually the names of the baby's grandparents! Look closely at the later births. Is there a cross reference? A birth registration place different from the usual place of abode? Jan On 25/01/2007, at 2:16 AM, John Rice wrote:

Hi Judy, I am hoping a relation may see this and advise the names of the children. I don't know if they could fit that many names on a certificate Regards John -----Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-hunter-valley-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-hunter-valley-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of judy waterer Sent: Tuesday, 23 January 2007 1:35 PM To: aus-nsw-hunter-valley@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HV] 32 CHILDREN Hi John, The death of a Camilla King (daughter of Thomas and Lucy) was reg. at Wollombi, No. 2990 in 1914. Is this the one? Her death cert., or a transcription, should give info on all the children, provided the informant knew of course. HTH Judy.

Hi Yvonne, The 21 children I found were all single births. I am wondering if some may have been adopted ? Regards John -----Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-hunter-valley-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-hunter-valley-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Yvonne Scrivener Sent: Tuesday, 23 January 2007 1:29 PM To: aus-nsw-hunter-valley@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HV] 32 CHILDREN John, Does this family of yours have a history of multiple births? 32 pregnancies seems excessive, but a few sets of twins, triplets etc may well account for the number. Let us know when you work it all out - I'm intrigued! Yvonne Scrivener Wagga Wagga NSW Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Rice" <jrice@westnet.com.au> To: <aus-nsw-hunter-valley@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 2:16 AM Subject: [HV] 32 CHILDREN

Hi Kaye There was an article in the Cessnock Eagle 28 OCT 1949 about the 32 children but the copy of the article I received is barely readable. One researcher in Rootsweb said that they received a mantle clock from Queen Victoria. Regards John -----Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-hunter-valley-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-hunter-valley-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of kaye vernon Sent: Tuesday, 23 January 2007 1:21 PM To: aus-nsw-hunter-valley@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HV] 32 CHILDREN Are you sure they are all theirs????? Seems like a hell of a lot of children. Maybe their son married a woman with the same Christian name as his mother and they had some...............Just a thought. Kaye www.bananatv.com/familytreechecklist.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Rice" <jrice@westnet.com.au> To: <aus-nsw-hunter-valley@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 2:16 AM Subject: [HV] 32 CHILDREN

Hi Listers, I am researching my GG granduncle, Richard King b1838 and his wife Camilla Locock b1843. They were married in 1859 at Hexham. I have seen reports in various internet sites that they had 32 children. I have found 21 in the BDM records, the 1st child born in 1860 and the last child born in 1889. I believe they resided in the Cessnock area. Does any other lister have any info re this family ? Many thanks John Rice Hervey Bay Qld

Does anyone have a Samuel and Violet Amelia Cooper in their family?? I can not find any information out about them at all, all I have is that their daughter died Jean Alice Cooper in 1964 at Grafton NSW and her parents names were Samuel and Violet Amelia Cooper. I can not find a marriage for Samuel or Violet and due to the dates I cannot find any other children. Thanks in Advance Tracie King

Thanks to everyone who sent me WICKS info smiles, Sharon Healey My family names in research are: HEALEY, GRICE, TRANTER, WILSON, HOLMES, JOHNSON, SHOESMITH, MITCHELL, METTAM, MANN, GRAHAM ROSE, ADAMS, SHEARER, NIELSEN, PERCY, RODFORD, McCROWE, PARSONS, MOWETT, TURNBULL

Hi Sharon I notice you are researching a Mann family. My husband has William Edward Mann b abt 1823 UK who married Sarah Lilley/Lilly 8 Jul 1862 Wollombi. William died 19 Jan 1888 in Tamworth. Any link? Cheers Wendy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon" <teafortwo@idl.net.au> To: <aus-nsw-hunter-valley@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 4:53 PM Subject: [HV] WICKS > Thanks to everyone who sent me WICKS info > smiles, > Sharon Healey > > My family names in research are: > > HEALEY, GRICE, TRANTER, WILSON, > HOLMES, JOHNSON, SHOESMITH, > MITCHELL, METTAM, MANN, GRAHAM > > ROSE, ADAMS, SHEARER, NIELSEN, > PERCY, RODFORD, McCROWE, > PARSONS, MOWETT, TURNBULL > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-HUNTER-VALLEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Perhaps a chance here ** any of your BURROWS come from East Leake, Nottingham. My late dad's mother Gertrude Moon BURROWS was born there, Cheers Peter. Lake Macquarie. -----Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-hunter-valley-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-hunter-valley-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Tony Casey Sent: Tuesday, 23 January 2007 8:58 AM To: AUS-NSW-Hunter-Valley@rootsweb.com Subject: [HV] Burrows Hi Am trying to locate a Ethel M ARTHURS who marrried John R BURROWS 1920 Adamstown. They had 2 children that I know of, Nance and Arthur. I have a couple of photos which I would like to pass on. Tony ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-HUNTER-VALLEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Alice Williams died 28/06/1907.Buried 30/06/1907.Aged 73 /A2 14.John Williams died13/08/1909.Buried 15/08/1909.Aged 84/A2 15.Both at Campbells hill. ----- Original Message ----- From: "F. Sheridan" <nadirehs@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-Hunter-Valley-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 23:11 Subject: [HV] alice Williams > Hi list > > if there is any one on the list who has the cemetery MI for Campbell's > hill cemetery at West Maitland > could I get a look up for John and Alice Williams > I thinks the Alice Williams I am looking for may have died in 1907 but > that date is unconfirmed > > with thanks Faye > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-HUNTER-VALLEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.3/642 - Release Date: 20/01/2007 > 22:31 > >

Hi Am trying to locate a Ethel M ARTHURS who marrried John R BURROWS 1920 Adamstown. They had 2 children that I know of, Nance and Arthur. I have a couple of photos which I would like to pass on. Tony

Greetings from Canada. There was a Mr. Burrows who was an English teacher at the Newcastle Boys' High School in the 1940s and he lived at the corner of Croudace Street and Portland Place in New Lambton, Newcastle. I don't remember his given name but he was known to us students at the time as "Spot". Minus 20 Celsius here and about a foot of snow. Enjoy your Summer. Will. Smith Thunder Bay, Ontario.

Hi list if there is any one on the list who has the cemetery MI for Campbell's hill cemetery at West Maitland could I get a look up for John and Alice Williams I thinks the Alice Williams I am looking for may have died in 1907 but that date is unconfirmed with thanks Faye

Hi list Seeking information on Margaret Jane Gray her father's name was Oliver Gray and mother's name Ann ? I think they are the family who arrived on the ship " HELEN" in 1841 Margaret Jane Gray married Henry Williams at West Maitland in 1882 Faye

Faye, NSW BDM lists Alice Williams' death as record 5504/1907 in West Maitland. ----- Original Message ----- From: "F. Sheridan" <nadirehs@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-Hunter-Valley-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 10:11 PM Subject: [HV] alice Williams > Hi list > > if there is any one on the list who has the cemetery MI for Campbell's > hill cemetery at West Maitland > could I get a look up for John and Alice Williams > I thinks the Alice Williams I am looking for may have died in 1907 but > that date is unconfirmed > > with thanks Faye > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-HUNTER-VALLEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.4/644 - Release Date: 22/01/2007 > 7:30 AM > >

----- Original Message ----- From: <aus-nsw-hunter-valley-request@rootsweb.com> To: <aus-nsw-hunter-valley@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 7:00 PM Subject: AUS-NSW-HUNTER-VALLEY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 14 > > > [HV] > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: WICKS (Juliette Hendry) > 2. Rice Family (John Rice) > 3. Sidney Alfred Lindeman (Robin Osborne-Smith) > 4. I give up for today (Gladys Faulkner) > 5. Re: Sidney Alfred Lindeman (Terry) > 6. Re: Sidney Alfred Lindeman (MargM) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 23:30:41 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) > From: "Juliette Hendry" <terralea@westnet.com.au> > Subject: Re: [HV] WICKS > To: <aus-nsw-hunter-valley@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <45B316A1.00002D.03900@ACER> > Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > Sharon, here is a Wicks website: > > http://kapana.customer.netspace.net.au/sargeant-desc.html > > Hope it helps you, > > Juliette > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 07:17:15 -0800 > From: "John Rice" <jrice@westnet.com.au> > Subject: [HV] Rice Family > To: <aus-nsw-hunter-valley@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <20070120211749.20918249B3D@vscan05.westnet.com.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hello Lister's, > > I am trying to find info on Walter John Rice b1880 at Rocky River NSW and > his family. Walter married Blanche Biddle b1886 in 1905 at Glen Innes. > They > had 4 children that I know of, all born in Glen Innes. They were Doris > b1906, Edna b1908, > > Gladys b1913 and Kenneth b1918. > > All 4 children were married in the Newcastle area so I have assumed that > the > family has moved to this area at sometime in their early age. > > Is there any other lister researching this family or have any info about > them, it would be of a great help in preparing my tree. > > With Regards > > John Rice > from Aileen Hannah re John Rice, I have an interest re the rice Family > from Hamilton/ My father Oswald S Molloy born 1904 , father Patrick Joh , > had a sister Eliza, married as Eliza to Mr ric, I will have to check my > records but William Rice, I have a glass photo of Eliza and the children. > I visited their home many times as a girl. The boys names were James / > will have to check, one girl who I knew as Nellie. Lambton has a beaut > Family History but Eliza graveside and other deats are readily available . > cahannah@hotkey.net.au Bye > > > **************************************************** >

I bet you did John. Wow this stuff keeps us on our toes doesn't? Hard to imagine anyone not interested really. The challenges are enormous. I am sure it must be some kind of cure for Alzheimers, although sometimes I wonder about myself. I play Bridge which is supposed to be the bees' knees for Alzheimers AND do Family History with a vengeance and yet sometimes I don't even know what day it is unless I look at the paper or the computer clock. Seriously, it is great and I love it. Good luck with your research. A hint - sometimes if you put a name into Google with either "family" or "origins" after it, you can get a "hit" Have you looked on the LDS site? sometimes people who are researching a particular family will put their info up there together with their contact details. If you need any advise on this, let me know. I use it all the time. Have a look at (for example) http://www.williamsfamilyoz.com/Thomas%20Turner.htm There is a James Turner who died in 1872 at Maitland Father Richard Mother Jane 4846/1872 TURNER JAMES RICHARD JANE MAITLAND These are the marriages for Jane Turner. The 2nd one looks most like to me given the RICE name 3758/1871 LEE WILLIAM TURNER JANE LOUISA WELLINGTON Buy Now 1649/1873 RICE JOHN TURNER JANE ARMIDALE Cheers Carolyn John Rice wrote: > Hi Carolyn, > Thank you for the time and effort you put into preparing the list of Turners > for me,it was helpful. The James Thomas Turner I am looking for died prior > to 1872 as his wife remarried to my GG grandfather in 1872 at Rocky River > NSW. This would have made her my step GG grandmother. In 1879 James and Jane > daughter Susan Jane Turner married her Step-brother Samuel Rice. So > therefore the Turners James & Jane became my real GG grandparents I had 4 > aspro's working all this out. > Regards > John Rice > > -----Original Message----- > From: aus-nsw-hunter-valley-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:aus-nsw-hunter-valley-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of cmhart > Sent: Sunday, 21 January 2007 6:01 PM > To: aus-nsw-hunter-valley@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [HV] JAMES THOMAS TURNER > > Hi John > Found these births etc. You probably have them anyway. Hope it helps. > Carolyn > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-HUNTER-VALLEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Carolyn, Thank you for the time and effort you put into preparing the list of Turners for me,it was helpful. The James Thomas Turner I am looking for died prior to 1872 as his wife remarried to my GG grandfather in 1872 at Rocky River NSW. This would have made her my step GG grandmother. In 1879 James and Jane daughter Susan Jane Turner married her Step-brother Samuel Rice. So therefore the Turners James & Jane became my real GG grandparents I had 4 aspro's working all this out. Regards John Rice -----Original Message----- From: aus-nsw-hunter-valley-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:aus-nsw-hunter-valley-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of cmhart Sent: Sunday, 21 January 2007 6:01 PM To: aus-nsw-hunter-valley@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HV] JAMES THOMAS TURNER Hi John Found these births etc. You probably have them anyway. Hope it helps. Carolyn