Ranclaud cleared part of his land, and built a homestead at some distance from the lakeshore, in the vicinity of present-day Barnsley Township, but on the southern side of Sandy or Burke's Creek, which marked the northern boundary of the estate. The homestead was named 'Trialba', which may or may not have been derived from 'Teralba.' According to a living descendent of Captain Ranclaud, the name 'Trialba' signified, by its Latin derivation, 'three white things'. It is said that the pinnacles of three nearby mountains presented to the early settler the appearance of 'three white things'. 8 When the Ranclaud's built their homestead out in the bushland, the nearest settlement of any description was a township at Wallsend, and it is most likely that the family travelled to and from their estate through that town. By the beginning of 1831 a dray track linked Ranclaud's farm with Newcastle in the north-east and Simpson's farm at 'Kourumbung' to the south-west. This track is mentioned in comments made by Surveyor Felton Matthew, who travelled through the area during January, 1831 :- 9 "The lowlands are almost invariably swampy and abounding in small waterholes, so numerous as to render travelling for a dray at least, both difficult and dangerous. The country, on the whole, and particularly that part of it northward from Kourumbung, is highly favourable for the construction of roads and even in its present state, a loaded dray might travel either northwards by Simpson's Road towards the Sugarloaf Range, or north-eastward by Ranclaud's from whence there is a regular dray road (although a very bad and circuitous one) to Newcastle.' Captain Ranclaud lived on his grant for no more than two and a half years, for on 30th May, 1832, he died, leaving his widow, Susannah, to care for the estate. The heir to the property was the Captain's eldest son, James St. John, junior, who was but sixteen years of age at his father's death. 10 The family moved to Sydney and probably never lived again in 'Trialba House'. On 14th November, 1837, young James Ranclaud, having attained the age of twenty-one years, mortgaged the 2560 acre property to James Walker for the sum of £700, and a year later the estate was purchased by David Scott, who agreed to pay the mortgage debt. It was to David Scott that the title deeds of the property were issued on 12th July, 1839, following a case heard before the Commissioners of Claims for Lands in which Scott was contested in his claim to the land by John Richardson of Sydney. 11 The Commissioners decided unanimously in favour of David Scott. Some years afterwards, at least a part of the original estate passed into the hands of a family named Black, who lived in a large and well-built house on the western bank of Cockle Creek near its confluence with the lake. The Blacks kept a farm there during the time that the northern railway line was being constructed through the property. Their old homestead still stands, and is now the property of the Stockton Borehole Colliery, which operates nearby. We do not know what happened to the Ranclauds' old home in the Barnsley district, but the following paragraph appeared in the Journal of the Newcastle and Hunter District Historical Society, in an article entitled 'The Great North Road' :- 12 'During 1847, another road to shorten the distance between Sydney and Newcastle - Maitland was under construction ... from Hawkesbury River the road skirted the township of Gosford and continued by a track marked by the surveyors to the crossing at Dora Creek. From here it passes the old station at Cooranbong through Apple Tree Flat and crosses some small creeks and steep ridges till it reaches Drega Flat. Then past Trialba House (Ranclauds) to Sandy Creek, where the road forks, one leading to Newcastle and the other to Maitland It is interesting to note that a scattered farming settlement developed during the 1860's along the freshwater creeks which flow by the present day townships of Barnsley, West Wallsend and Edgeworth. This scattered settlement took the name of Teralba, and a school of that name was opened there in 1865. 13 The district continued to be known as Teralba until about 1890, for it was not until 1891 that the name of Barnsley was adopted for the school. 14 MargaretB Lake Macquarie NSW Australia

Ranclaud applied to have the grant surveyed and during 1830 James Ralfe, a Government Surveyor, completed this task.5 On 9th February, 1830, Ranclaud selected a further grant of 914 acres which adjoined, in part, his original large grant. This estate was given the following description in the Lands Department Register of Grants6:- 'Commencing at the Eastern extreme of the south boundary line of James St. John Ranclaud's 2560 acres grant and bounded on the North by 58 chains of that boundary line bearing West; on the West by a South line of 118 chains to a small creek; on the South by that creek downwards to the waters of Lake Macquarie; and on the East by the waters of Lake Macquarie northerly to the eastern extreme of the South boundary line of Ranclaud's grant aforesaid.' This portion of 914 acres had been ordered in 1829 for Madam Rens of Sydney, in compensation for a certain portion of land in George Street, Sydney, which she had surrendered for Government purposes. Madam Rens disposed of her right of selection however, and on 1st February, 1830, Ranclaud selected the grant. He was authorised to possess it on 17th May of the same year. This meant that Ranclaud held a total of 3474 acres in the Teralba district. The earliest record of any name being used to describe the locality of Ranclaud's grants is contained in a letter written by Surveyor Felton Matthew on 19th November, 1831.7 Here Matthew made reference to a trigonometrical survey point known as 'Tirelbah' at the northern extremity of Lake Macquarie. Two years later, the New South Wales Calendar and Directory identified Mr. Ranclaud's farm with 'Teralba' -the earliest recorded use of the name as it is spelled to-day. It appears that 'Teralba' is derived from an aboriginal word whose meaning is, unfortunately, lost to us today. Ranclaud cleared part of his land, and built a homestead at some distance from the lakeshore, in the vicinity of present-day Barnsley township, but on the southern side of Sandy or Burke's Creek, which marked the northern boundary of the estate. The homestead was named Trialba', which may or may not have been derived from 'Teralba.' According to a living descendent of Captain Ranclaud, the name 'Trialba' signified, by its Latin derivation, 'three white things.' It is said that the pinnacles of three nearby mountains presented to the early settler the appearance of 'three white things.'8 When the Ranclauds built their homestead out in the bushland, the nearest settlement of any description was a township at Wallsend, and it is most likely that the family travelled to and from their estate through that town. By the beginning of 1831 a dray track linked Ranclaud's farm with Newcastle in the north-east and Simpson's farm at 'Kourumbung' to the south-west. This track is mentioned in comments made by Surveyor Felton Matthew, who travelled through the area during January, 1831:-9 MargaretB Lake Macquarie NSW Australia

THE STORY OF TERALBA The birth of Teralba may be traced to the building of the northern railway from Sydney to Newcastle in the years 1884 to 1889. The construction of this railway line radically changed the patterns of settlement within the Lake Macquarie region, and it was directly responsible for the formation of a number of townships, including Morisset, Awaba and Cardiff. Among these new townships, Teralba had the distinction of being located both on the railway line and the lakeshore. Yet the history of Teralba district commenced nearly sixty years before the building of the railway, for it was in 1829 that a free settler by the names of Ranclaud selected a large grant that extended from the mouth of Cockle Creek westward almost to the foot of the Sugarloaf Range. James St. John Ranclaud was born in or about the year 1786.' His mother was Irish, and his father a Frenchman who was taken prisoner during a war between England and France. The name Ranclaud is a corruption of the French 'Reineclaude', meaning queen's plum, or greengage. James Ranclaud married Susannah Boscowen, a daughter of the Hon. Hugh Boscowen and grand-daughter of the Earl of Falmouth. He served in the British Army for more than twenty years, which included a period in India, and achieved the rank of a captain before deciding to settle with his family in New South Wales. On 14th July, 1828, R. W. Hay of the Colonial Office in London addressed a letter to Governor Ralph Darling of New South Wales, in which he recommended Captain Ranclaud as a free settler.2 This suggests that the Ranclauds sailed for the colony soon after that date, and the time of their arrival m Sydney would be about the middle of 1829. As was customary under the circumstances, the Governor of New South Wales promised Captain Ranclaud a substantial land grant, and on 13th August, 1829, an order for 2560 acres was recorded/ This grant could be selected in any part of the settled districts of the Colony. By this time, however, all of the valuable grazing country of the western slopes, the southern highlands and the Hunter River Valley had been taken up by earlier settlers and this fact, in addition to the attraction of a tempered coastal climate, may have influenced James St. John Ranclaud to select his 2560 acres at Lake Macquarie. The settler was authorised on 4th September, 1829, to take possession of the estate, which was officially described by the Surveyor-General's Department in this way4: - 'Bounded on the South by a line bearing West 229 chains, commencing at a small creek adjoining Cockle Creek; on the West by a line bearing North 80 chains; on the North by a line bearing East 70 chains to Cockle Creek, and by that creek; and also on the east by that Creek.' MargaretB Lake Macquarie NSW Australia

TERALBA CEMETERY By C Read Lake Macquarie and District Historical Society When I heard the Council is considering heritage listing for the old Teralba Cemetery at Billygoat Hill my mind went back to earlier times. Teralba was a little different then, dust from the gravel roads permeated right through the houses, people swimming in Cockle Creek, an occasional prickly pear stood sulking around the paddocks and Quigley's ghost was supposed to be about late at night. A curse called Bathurst burr was growing everywhere around the town. The stock couldn't eat it and their legs and tails were covered with burrs. Dogs and cats were always trying to scratch and bite them off. Sometimes they even got into girl's hair at school. I wonder how. Black faced miners with hobnail boots went by, swagmen were often seen. Occasionally a man riding a camel was seen passing the school and a poor crippled man with a bullock instead of a horse in his cart went slowly by. The children all laughed and said he had made a mistake. One time in the early 1930's there were only three motor cars in Teralba, my father having one of them, a black one. One of the miner's families living nearby had a little child die. The depression was lingering on in the town and they decided to conduct their own burial. They got help and advice from the Clerk of Petty Sessions who had his office in Teralba in those days and asked my father to use his car as a hearse. The coffin was made of rough sawn but new looking timber. It was placed on the back seat with the mother riding in the front with dad and set off in low gear with the family and many friends and relatives trudging along behind. As they passed the hotel a number of miners came out and joined the procession slowly walking to the Teralba Cemetery. There were railway gates on the northern side of Booragul Railway Station for access to the cemetery. By 1960 the railway gates had gone, I happened to be nearby when the last funeral was held at Teralba Cemetery, Mr Chris Thornton's. I witnessed the spectacle of the pallbearers carefully carrying the coffin all the way up the steep railway steps and down the other side to get to the cemetery. Now the Bathurst burrs and occasional prickly pear have long gone, as have the swagman and the man with the camel, Quigley's ghost seems to rest better. And what of crippled Bill with the bullock and cart, he went to Sydney and became a newspaper seller in the City. Many years later I was watching a documentary on television about freedom of the press and concerning an incident where a Sydney newspaper was ordered by the Government to cease publication, something about censorship. They refused and dropped the newspapers out of the upstairs windows of their building onto the street below. I nearly jumped out of my lounge chair when I saw our Bill handing out these free papers. Apparently he was filmed by a newsreel camera man at the time. Just imagine our Bill from Teralba immortalised forever in the film and TV archives. Recollections are becoming wispy, a bit like past dreams. Oh well, I wonder what's in Saturday's paper; perhaps I'll remember some more another day. MargaretB Lake Macquarie NSW Australia

Newcastle Morning Herald and Miners' ADVOCATE, MONDAY, Abt. 1940 NEARLY 90 Teralba Woman Still Keeps House Teralba is proud of its oldest resident, Mrs. E. Bedford, who will soon cele­brate her 90th birthday. Mrs. Bedford, better known as Nurse Bedford, who lives in Cumberland Street, looks after a six-roomed house, cooks and does the washing. Fancy work is the pride of her heart. She also enjoys surf­ing, and often goes camping with her family. To day she is doing all she can to provide comforts for soldiers over­seas. Nurse Bedford was only two when she came to Australia with her parents, living first at Raymond Terrace. She was only 16 years when she married Mr. Young Bedford, a railway contractor. At that time she had charge of railway crossing gates in northern New South Wales. For 10 years she lived at Wallsend, then went to Gunnedah, and Breeza, finally settling at Teralba 52 years ago. About that time she took up nursing. After her training in a Sydney maternity hospital she went into practice. Thirty years ago she joined the Re­organised Church of Latter Day Saints. Nurse Bedford had 11 children, of whom eight - three sons and five daugh­ters - are living. Her husband died about 20 years ago. Today she is assisting to make up material for soldiers over­seas. In recent years she took an active part in organising church efforts and collecting material for her stall. MargaretB Lake Macquarie NSW Australia

Dear MargM I think Ray has summed up what we all feel at the moment, too worn out from brickwalls, but I shall try to be of help whenever possible. Maybe we can start with the cemeteries, or I could post some of the Lake Macquarie History for those interested. MargaretB Lake Macquarie NSW Australia

Dear Listers You have broken the record for the least number of messages posted to the Hunter Valley list ....to date there have been just 7 for March There are near to 450 members of this list ............. 99.9 % are sitting on the fence again waiting for something to happen ........... What ? Have been some new people subscribe and they have just joined the fence sitters club too ! A mailing list is what is subscribers make of it . At the moment this one is out of sight and mind and got the yawns and is in the doldrums Maybe 'old age' is getting to it ?? It will be 9 years old this coming November Check out http://www.rootsweb.com/~ausmfhc/index2.html http://members.ozemail.com.au/~ahgw/nfhs/ http://www.huntervalleygenealogy.com/ http://www.jenwilletts.com/ http://www.nla.gov.au/ferg/issn/14403676.html Apart from the Maitland Mercury the NLA also have the Shipping Gazette digitised Happy hunting Bye MargM Hunter Valley List Admin

I too would like a copy of the Oswald Church photograph if available as I have ancestors, REEVE(s) and PRYOR buried there. Thank you Sue Central Coast NSW >I am looking for a photograph of the church which was near the Wesleyan > Cemetery at Oswald. It was demolished but I understand it was still there > in the early 1940's. > > My Harman/Lane/Hawkins families are all b uried there. > > Regards > > Victor Moymow > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com

Hello Louise I must admit I have been a "lurker" for a while and enjoy reading the posts. I am relatively new to this wonderful hobby or should I say addiction and interested in the name Henry REEVES around 1847/1848 who owned or was the licensee of the Fitzroy Hotel High Street Maitland and later the Albion Inn - maybe listed in your item 3 Hunter Valley Inns and Innkeepers. Thank you. Sue the Fence Sitter Central Coast NSW From: "Louise Reynolds" <louise@planetlighting.com> To: <aus-nsw-hunter-valley@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 12:58 PM Subject: [HV] Books We Have Read > Hello all, > > Alas, the only Hunter Valley associated book I have in my library is a > volume of the Journal of Hunter Valley History - 1986. > > The articles are: > > 1/. German Immigration to the Hunter in the mid 19th C > > 2/. John Earl of Glenridding > > 3/. Hunter Valley Inns and Innkeepers Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com

Hello Marg and list members. I have long been a fence-sitter on all of my lists, for this reason: I want to read all messages on the list, just in case there might be something there to assist me with my research in general, or for one of my surnames. However I do not wish to post about any of my surnames because at the moment, and for the forseeable future I do not and will not have the time to follow up on any personal leads which might come in, and I do not want to extend my reputation for being someone who never gets around to doing what he has said in the past that he will do. LOL. Therefore, I am purely here on all of these lists with a personal "watching" brief. Additionally, I expect that new subscribers to the lists will search the archives for each such list, as a necessary part of their own research, either by browsing through it in its entirety, or using the rootsweb search facilities, and so my own surnames being researched will be there for them to find. (But I hope that I haven't changed ISPs in the meantime. More LOLs. Looking however Marg at your plaintive call to the list, perhaps it might be invigorated if we took a page from say the Tyrone list in Ireland, which long ago started asking people to post about a different Parish each week, with the list administrator outlining the parishes in advance. Perhaps here we might do something similar, but basing it on Hunter Valley towns. Another way is the easy option of calling for a "roll-call" of surnames being researched. Another way might be to ask for postings on separate topics. Some which spring to mind might be: farming and farmers, mining and miners, innkeeping and innkeepers, military, police, mounted police, magistrates, convicts, public servants, etc. -- of course I mean for each of these to be for their Hunter Valley connections. Any thoughts on this from others? If so, please share them with the list. Marg: I hope that some of this or the later hoped-for input from others might give a few ideas. Meanwhile I thank everyone who does post something, as each post has the potential to assist at least one other researcher sooner or later. Best wishes to all: Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "MargM" <genknut@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-Hunter-Valley@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 9:57 PM Subject: [HV] Has everyone given genealogy the flick ? > Dear Listers > > You have broken the record for the least number of > messages posted to the Hunter Valley list ....to date > there have been just 7 for March ...

Hi Listers. does anyone remeber the ' All Australian Sunshine Cafe' in Muswellbrook? It was run by the three little old ladies (wilkins and Campions, all members of the Nepveur family). Margaret Smith-White _________________________________________________________________ Advertisement: Your Future Starts Here. Dream it? Then be it! Find it at www.seek.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Eseek%2Ecom%2Eau%2F%3Ftracking%3Dsk%3Ahet%3Ask%3Anine%3A0%3Ahot%3Atext&_t=754951090&_r=seek&_m=EXT

Hi List, I came across this on the middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com This will affect anyone trying to research family in New Zealand Brian M Morley Ipswich Queensland Australia NZ Births, Deaths, Marriages,and Relationships Registration Amendment Bill > There is a story here. The public need to know about this. This proposed > Bill will seriously affect genealogists and family historians, not only in > NZ but also internationally, who require this important data to research > their family histories. They appear to be taking a sledge-hammer to crack > a nut ?? > > -----Original Message----- > From: nz-libs-bounces@lists.vuw.ac.nz > [mailto:nz-libs-bounces@lists.vuw.ac.nz] On Behalf Of Sutherland, Paul > Sent: Friday, 16 March 2007 9:08 a.m. > To: NZ-Libs@lists.vuw.ac.nz > Subject: [NZ-Libs] Births, Deaths, Marriages, and Relationships > Registration > Amendment Bill > An interesting bill. > http://www.parliament.nz/en-NZ/PB/Legislation/Bills/0/8/9/089701926f8d40 > d482d395a3a730fe72.htm > I believe this has now been referred to the Government Administration > Committee - The closing date for submissions is Friday, 4 May 2007. > A few forwarded emails from the very active NEW-ZEALAND-L@rootsweb.com > list > alerted me to this bill. > It is interesting to note that this bill appears to propose shutting down > access to Birth Death and Marriage certificates unless they are old e.g. > Births 100 years or more > It also proposes that The Registrar is going to make some historical > information (.ie. from unrestricted certificates etc) available for search > at a website for a fee. Basically this index will have full names of the > people, place, full date and the registration number. > And it will make it illegal to make the Index Information available on an > Internet website. Any information already online must come down within 14 > days of the Act coming into force. (What about online cemetery records > placed there by Councils across the country?) > It also appears that charges for copies of certificates will greatly > increase to offset the reduced demand. > This all apears to be driven by the fear of identity theft... even those > these registers do not act like a Unique identifier (like US Social > Security > number) - and are often inaccurate. > I am not a family historian but this would all seem to be of some > concern - > this information is the foundation of the connections that family > historians > make. Family historians - often scoffed at - have embraced technology in > very interesting ways - the reduced access to this data will have a major > impact on them. > But what to me seems most important it that this is surely flying against > the aims of the Digital Strategy and the Digital Content Strategy - which > surely aims to liberate content and make it freely available > Just imagine if this official source could become an authoritive online > web > 2.0 source for information about New Zealanders that could be used to > create > the backbone for a peoples of New Zealand resource. The BDM office could > digitize the certificates on demand and make them available online - for > free - not fee. Remember the UK has early census data online. > I guess i always get so confused about what "whole of goverment means" - > just how joined up joined up is. But imagine if we had a agency (Digital > strategy secretariat?) that would be looking at all things across all > agencies, asking questions and examining them for conections and > possibilitites that no one had yet imagined. > Goverment 2.0? > But no - no doubt this bill will pass - and access will diminsih, and fees > will increase becase the DIA bottom line can't be changed - instead of a > glorious oportunity to free up details of our some of early peoples... > /paul > ********************************************************************** > This electronic email and any files transmitted with it are intended > solely > for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. > The views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and > may not necessarily reflect the views of the Christchurch City Council. > If you are not the correct recipient of this email please advise the > sender and delete. > Christchurch City Council > http://www.ccc.govt.nz > ********************************************************************** > > _______________________________________________ > NZ-Libs mailing list > Send postings to NZ-Libs@lists.vuw.ac.nz Messages to > nz-libs-bounces@lists.vuw.ac.nz will NOT be read by a human being! > More info (including unsubscribe) at > http://lists.vuw.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nz-libs

Thanks, Jenny M, for the bit about Blacksmiths. I remember my grandfather telling me that it was "the place where black Smiths lived in the Summer"! Will. Smith, Canada. ----- Original Message ----- From: <jenm@exemail.com.au> To: <aus-nsw-hunter-valley@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 7:33 PM Subject: Re: [HV] Blacksmith's beach ? > For information on BLACKSMITHS BEACH........... > > http://www.lakemac.infohunt.nsw.gov.au/library/lhist/suburb/lmp&p/blacksmith s.htm > > HTH, > > Jenny M > Lake Macquarie NSW > > Surnames only typed in all caps are easier to read off a computer screen > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-HUNTER-VALLEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Greetings from Canada. My paternal grandfather, William Smith, had a cottage at Blacksmiths (Blacksmith's?) about 60 years ago. I too would be interested in the origin of the name. Will Smith, Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada. ----- Original Message ----- From: "MargM" <genknut@optusnet.com.au> To: <AUS-NSW-Hunter-Valley@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 6:40 PM Subject: [HV] Blacksmith's beach ? > We were camping at Blacksmith's Beach over last weekend > in the heat and humidity on Friday and heavy rain Saturday > night with a group of friends. Spent yesterday drying out > the camping gear . > > Anyone know how it got that name ? > > > Bye > > MargM > Hunter Valley List Admin > > > > > Surnames only typed in all caps are easier to read off a computer screen > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AUS-NSW-HUNTER-VALLEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Not all of us are retired, semi-retired or people of leisure. I'm mainly a reader of the HV list as I work a farm and have relatively little time to do my own family history research, much less help other people with theirs. As I have no wish to be appear to be one of those people who promises much but fails to deliver, I tend to sit back unless I spot someone's request that I can specifically and immediately help with. I post my own surnames about once a year on this list (and others) but if I posted all my own queries then I'd be spending more time on the computer than I do working the place. :) Yes, I have that many loose ends in the Hunter Valley! Dennis PS For the record, my direct HV interests include Cantwell, Brennan, Byrnes, Byrne and McCosker . The Cantwells also link to the McCrohons, Kennas, Doyles, O'Sheas, Wrights, Hodgins, Patersons and Browns. The Brennans link to, among many others, the Cahills (Ted Cahill may well crop up in relation to some queries as he was the police prosecutor in Maitland for some years). There are also quite a few priests and nuns among that lot, so again some would be fairly well known. Dennis Johnstone Email: dennis@donjon1.demon.co.uk Blog: http://stonehead.wordpress.com On 19 Mar 2007, at 13:56, aus-nsw-hunter-valley-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 22:57:16 +1100 > From: "MargM" <genknut@optusnet.com.au> > Subject: [HV] Has everyone given genealogy the flick ? > To: <AUS-NSW-Hunter-Valley@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000201c76a1d$cfc7eb90$0201010a@ownerc72bf9569> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; > reply-type=original > > Dear Listers > > You have broken the record for the least number of > messages posted to the Hunter Valley list ....to date > there have been just 7 for March > > There are near to 450 members of this list ............. > 99.9 % are sitting on the fence again waiting for > something to happen ........... What ? > > Have been some new people subscribe and they have just > joined the fence sitters club too ! > > A mailing list is what is subscribers make of it . At the > moment this one is out of sight and mind and got the yawns > and is in the doldrums > > Maybe 'old age' is getting to it ?? It will be 9 years > old this coming November > > > Check out > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ausmfhc/index2.html > > > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~ahgw/nfhs/ > > > http://www.huntervalleygenealogy.com/ > > > http://www.jenwilletts.com/ > > > http://www.nla.gov.au/ferg/issn/14403676.html > > > Apart from the Maitland Mercury the NLA also have the > Shipping Gazette digitised > > Happy hunting > > Bye > > MargM > Hunter Valley List Admin >

Another site regarding the Hunter Valley to check out is Tocal Homestead http://www.tocal.com/homestead/vandv/index.html lists of the convicts assigned to Tocal with the period of time they were there, along with the history and the lifestyle. My research interest, convicts Michael and Thomas Magner. Regards, Shirley

Hi All, LAKE MACQUARIE FAMILY HISTORY GROUP Inc. will be holding an Open Day tomorrow, Saturday, 17 March at the Marmong Point Community Hall, 31 George St, Marmong Point. Doors open at 10.00 am so please come along and make use of our library and our resources. Marbract Transcription Agency will be in attendance with help and advice on ordering NSW BDM transcriptions. A presentation will be made at 2.00pm of legal deposits to the National Library. On sale will be our two latest publications - Pioneers & Settlers of Lake Macquarie and St. Matthews C of E Windsor, Complete Transcriptions 1901-1950. Tea and coffee available, BYO lunch. Jenny Myers President

Hi MargM Thankyou for the info on CCFS, I will contact them and see what they have. Linda Hi Linda > > > > Would that be the CRAFT family from Joseph per > > 'Abermarle' and WOODBURY from Richard per' > Fortune1' ? > > > > If so a great deal of research has been done on > both > > families , both of whom were residents of Mangrove > > Creek > > on the Hawkesbury when the 1841 census was done > > > > Richard WOODBURY has been claimed on Lesley's > claim a > > convict Joseph CRAFT was previously claimed > > > > Both families feature in the Pre 1900 Pioneers of > > Gosford > > book published 2003 by the Central coast FHS > > > >> Yes, these are the families I am researching, > thankyou > > I will try the claim a convict site. Do you know > if > > there are any copies of the Pioneers of Gosford > > available > > Yes, but aside from that book I know the CC FS > have a > great deal of info on both families > > Late last year we published a CD of mainly BDM info > from > the Gosford Times 1897 > - 1933 . Are some 20 CRAFT refs and about 40 > WOODBURY ones > > See > > http://www.centralcoastfhs.org.au/ > > With some of these large local families Central > Coast / > Hunter Valley families its very easy to re invent > the > wheel > > > > Is quite alot of WOODBURY info on Jenny WILLETTS > web > site > > http://www.jenwilletts.com/search.htm > Bye > > > MargM > Hunter Valley List Admin Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com

Thank you Brian. This would ensure that research notes are preserved and it has been a concern of mine. Although my children take an interest in my research, they are not that interested that they, at this stage, want to get involved themselves. Regards, Jan Koperberg Blue Mountains ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian M Morley" <bmo06298@bigpond.net.au> To: <aus-qld-ipswich@rootsweb.com>; <aus-qld@rootsweb.com>; "AUS-NSW-Hunter-Valley@rootsweb.com" <AUS-NSW-Hunter-Valley-L@rootsweb.com>; <AUS-Tasmania@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 11:09 PM Subject: [HV] Genealogical Codicil > Genealogical Codicil > > > Good Evening to the List, > > This was on AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS@rootsweb.com and I thought I would send it > to > others as food for thought of what will happen to all of our hard work > and > the joy of finding someone that we cannot find when we do find them.... > > There was a question to the list concerning what will happen to our > genealogy files at death. > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gazetteer2000/codicil.htm > > > Cheers for now and have a nice day > > Brian M Morley > Surnames only typed in all caps are easier to read off a computer screen > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > AUS-NSW-HUNTER-VALLEY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/710 - Release Date: 4/03/2007 > 1:58 PM >

Genealogical Codicil Good Evening to the List, This was on AUS-VIC-GOLDFIELDS@rootsweb.com and I thought I would send it to others as food for thought of what will happen to all of our hard work and the joy of finding someone that we cannot find when we do find them.... There was a question to the list concerning what will happen to our genealogy files at death. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gazetteer2000/codicil.htm Cheers for now and have a nice day Brian M Morley