I am trying to find information on a convict - Thomas SHONE who arrived in NSW on board the 'Marquis of Huntley' in 1826 and eventually settled around Maitland. Chris Cessnock, NSW

Hi listers I have an Albert George Stuart Scott (son of George Stuart Scott and Louise according to BDM Death Index) who died in 1962 in Newcastle. He appears on the 1930 Electoral Roll in Adamstown and at the same address Hannah Marie Thurline Scott. The 1936 Electoral Roll gives similar information for them at Hamilton. Albert married Hannah Marie Thurline PETERSEN in 1925 in Newcastle. Can't find dates of birth or dates of arrival. Can't find a death for Hannah either. Family lore has it that the Petersens came from Denmark. Any connections or suggestions? Regards Ian Jordan -- Privacy and Confidentiality Notice: the information in this email and any attachment(s) is intended for the named recipient only. If you have received this email in error, pease delete it and any attachment(s) immediately, do not open or download any attachments. The information is for the purposes of private family history research. It may not be published or distributed in any form without the prior written consent of the sender. Information concerning living individuals is not intended to be shared. Any information concerning living individuals, either express or iimplied, is not to be recorded, distributed or published without the prior written consent of the individual concerned. The sending of this information does not amount to a waiver of any of those requirements by the author.

Absolutely brilliant, Ian!!! I knew there was a site/domain area in Google Advanced, and have used it to restrict searches to .uk or .au, but never considered going this far to specify the search. BIG THANKS for the time-saving tip!! Bruce Fairhall Ian Jordan wrote: > Thanks for this. > Looking for a particular surname? Use Google: > SURNAME site:home.iprimus.com.au/bexleyboy/1902/ > where, of course, SURNAME= the name you are looking for. > For example: > JONES site:home.iprimus.com.au/bexleyboy/1902/ > shows that there are four pages with JONES on it > JORDAN site:home.iprimus.com.au/bexleyboy/1902/ > finds one page with two entries. > Of course, your search keyword can be anything you like, first name, > location whatever. > And tis strategy works for any site - just change the site details in > the search term.

Thanks for this. Looking for a particular surname? Use Google: SURNAME site:home.iprimus.com.au/bexleyboy/1902/ where, of course, SURNAME= the name you are looking for. For example: JONES site:home.iprimus.com.au/bexleyboy/1902/ shows that there are four pages with JONES on it JORDAN site:home.iprimus.com.au/bexleyboy/1902/ finds one page with two entries. Of course, your search keyword can be anything you like, first name, location whatever. And tis strategy works for any site - just change the site details in the search term. Thanks for the list! Regards Ian Jordan 2009/5/1 Yvonne Rowell <[email protected]>: > Fellow Listers > A link for some railway employees as received from another list. > http://home.iprimus.com.au/bexleyboy/1902/index.html <clip> -- Privacy and Confidentiality Notice: the information in this email and any attachment(s) is intended for the named recipient only. If you have received this email in error, pease delete it and any attachment(s) immediately, do not open or download any attachments. The information is for the purposes of private family history research. It may not be published or distributed in any form without the prior written consent of the sender. Information concerning living individuals is not intended to be shared. Any information concerning living individuals, either express or iimplied, is not to be recorded, distributed or published without the prior written consent of the individual concerned. The sending of this information does not amount to a waiver of any of those requirements by the author.

Thank you very much Yvonne, this link is very much appreciated. regards dorothy ~~~~~~~~~~ -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Yvonne Rowell Sent: Friday, 1 May 2009 9:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [HV] Railway Employees List Fellow Listers A link for some railway employees as received from another list. http://home.iprimus.com.au/bexleyboy/1902/index.html Cheers Yvonne ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Fellow Listers A link for some railway employees as received from another list. http://home.iprimus.com.au/bexleyboy/1902/index.html Cheers Yvonne

Hi Listers Just a quick email to say thanks to those who have helped with the various suggestions about the Morisset Hospital. I have emailed and awaiting a reply to see if I might be lucky or not. Thanks again to everyone Regards Margaret ************************* Margaret Bauer Qld, Australia. [email protected] *************************

Dear Greg, Have you been to State Records, Kingswood to see if they have the Inquest papers? That is where they would be stored currently, if they survived, and you indicate they did. See www.records.nsw.gov.au on Inquests (Archives in Brief No. 4 Have you checked the NSW BDM using only ghe given name and year of death as the surname name have been incorrectly transcribed? Did any of them leave a will? Probate Packets are also housed at Kingswood. Sometimes actual dates of death and correct spelling are found on the Probate Index. It helps everyone if you remove the footer of the previous messages. Sincerely,Bill > Below is the little detail known to me regarding JAMES > BALL--who is my G. Grandfather. > Nothing is known of his early life, but guessing from his wife's age at > death in 1893, which was 80 yrs.[ according to her headstone in the OLD > C.

Hello Terry, Below is the little detail known to me regarding JAMES BALL--who is my G. Grandfather. Nothing is known of his early life, but guessing from his wife's age at death in 1893, which was 80 yrs.[ according to her headstone in the OLD C. of E. cemetery at Jerrys Plains], he may have been born about 1810. He died at 'Tallawang'--near Gulgong, 25/11/1884. An autopsy was held and Dr. Bennett thought he died of a heart condition. He did not try to estimate his age, which is rather unusual for such cases, and no other detail is recorded. The Coroner's papers were not stored until 1928 in NSW, so there is only the Coroner's Report to go on. After working for John Smith on 'Burnam Wood' near J.P. until about 1851, he purchased 50 acres on the Huner River at J.P. where Redmanvale Ck. enters the river. This house is mentioned in the Singleton Jubilee Booklet of 1926, as being the first to have an iron roof at J.P.. It was swept away in the 1857 flood. Known as 'Ball's Retreat', it is mentioned in various Government Returns regarding area and stock held. It is thought that Charlotte continued to reside there until her death. Oral family history suggests that James left his wife and property in his latter years, having become fond of "the bottle", and earned a living by plying his trade as a shoemaker, e.g. Bootmaker. A report of his death in a Gulgong paper of the day, described him as " an itinerant tradesman". A search of my 'Ball' file shows that I received 3 replies to my request for information about a Charlotte BOURNE placed 'on line' in 2005. Two of these gave fulsome details of her birthplace and date [ Bristol. England. 1821.] Also her death at Wollombi in 1877/8. So this Charlotte is not my G. Grand-mother. You also respondered to an earlier plea, when you sent an email on 6/3/2000 regarding the name GREY. I forgot to mention that Charlotte's death is not registered in NSW--however, I have a p/c of the front page of the Maitland Mercury dated July 1893 which carries her death notice. Regarding James Ball, I have searched convict lists, shipping manifests, Convict absconders with the name Ball. I bought a copy of a T.O.L. from SAG, issued in the Maitland Police District, which they assured me was for a James Ball, only to find that it was for a James Bale ! In a cruel twist of fate, I found where a David Rostron GRAY married a girl of the Hart family ['Dulwich', Glennies Ck.] at St Albans C of E at Muswellbrook in 1861. His abode was Warkworth--hers 'Arrowfield'. They had 2 kids at J.P. who are registered as Rostron--not Gray ???. They then went to the St. George area of Queensland, where they had 3 more kids, all registered Rostron. They went back to NSW and settled in Wee Waa about1875/80, and assumed the name BALL !!!!. Three more kids were born there and registered as Ball. Guess what ? David was a shoemaker ! I cannot find his death anywhere. He was said to have been born in Manchester, U.K.. The wife is buried in the Wee Waa Anglican cemetery. Strange to say--James Ball's youngest child, Mary Ann, married a George Daniel Whitton in 1881, and they lived in Wee Waa and had a family. I spoke to a couple of Grand-children of Mary-- but they had no knowledge of a David Ball. I have a belief that there is something 'fishy' about this David Gray cum Rostron cum Ball. His wife, when registering a birth, stated her name before marriage as SMITH. This happened to be her Mother's maiden name !. Did she have something to hide ?. Even though David 'whoever' was about 20 years younger than James Ball, I feel there is some connection somewhere. Sorry for the length of this story Terry--but there was so much to cover. Thankyou for your interest. Regards, Greg Ball. ----- Original Message ----- From: "terry " <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:22 AM Subject: Re: [HV] doctors hills and creeks and Morris(s) > > Good Morning Greg, > > Not sure as to where you find the entry for MORRISS in my databases , so > if > you could be more specific I will follow up. The only MORRISS I did find > was > Leslie Gordon and his wife Muriel living at 67 Castlereagh Street in > c.1928. > He was listed as a bootmaker. > > Regards > > Terry > > Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor > netiquette > and so is plagiarism. > Please don't do it. > > > > > > Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor > netiquette. Please don't do it. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.58/2061 - Release Date: 04/15/09 19:52:00

Hello Bill Thank you for your answer. I use to use it every day for years but recently have moved to other area's of my research. I came back to it a couple of weeks ago to do a couple of enquiry's and ended up totally confused. Regards John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 1:09 PM Subject: Re: [HV] NSW Records > Dear John, > I believe that a revamp of the State Records site has not been without > problems. They are continually updating the site. It may take a little > while > to settle down. > Sincerely,Bill > >>I don't if it is only me, but the way they change searching for info >>immigration, convicts and others seem to be harder to now find. I have >>also >>notice that info I got from BDM is now missing in some cases. >> Has anyone else having this problem ?? > > > > Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor > netiquette. Please don't do it. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, My father told me that my uncle was at Morriset Psych Hospital for a period so I contacted the Dept of Health and they wrote back advising of a fire destroying most medical records, however they did have some index cards of patients that gave basic information. They sent me a copy of that index card, and it told me that he was there from 1937 to 1944, with dates of admission, the diagnosis, dates of visits by his parents, and his death. Whilst not comprehensive, it filled in many gaps of my knowledge about him. Cheers, Phil Young. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of D Cook Sent: Wednesday, 29 April 2009 1:29 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [HV] Morriset Hospital records (Francis R Walmsley) Hi Margaret, Are you aware of the following: http://www.communityguide.com.au/community.cfm?/lakemacquarie/site/community groups/heritageandhistory/morissethospitalhistoricalsociety/ It says there was a fire in the office & has further details on family history research. Apparently Hunter New England Mental Health has any records which survived. Such a sad story. I hope you are able to find something to help your search in the surviving records. Deb. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Bauer" <[email protected]> To: "Maitland & Hunter NEWSGROUP" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 11:25 AM Subject: [HV] Francis R Walmsley <snipped> > Does anyone know if Morisset has kept an archive of its inmates at all? <snipped> Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear John, I believe that a revamp of the State Records site has not been without problems. They are continually updating the site. It may take a little while to settle down. Sincerely,Bill >I don't if it is only me, but the way they change searching for info >immigration, convicts and others seem to be harder to now find. I have also >notice that info I got from BDM is now missing in some cases. > Has anyone else having this problem ??

I don't if it is only me, but the way they change searching for info immigration, convicts and others seem to be harder to now find. I have also notice that info I got from BDM is now missing in some cases. Has anyone else having this problem ?? John Qld

Hi Margaret, Are you aware of the following: http://www.communityguide.com.au/community.cfm?/lakemacquarie/site/communitygroups/heritageandhistory/morissethospitalhistoricalsociety/ It says there was a fire in the office & has further details on family history research. Apparently Hunter New England Mental Health has any records which survived. Such a sad story. I hope you are able to find something to help your search in the surviving records. Deb. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Bauer" <[email protected]> To: "Maitland & Hunter NEWSGROUP" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 11:25 AM Subject: [HV] Francis R Walmsley <snipped> > Does anyone know if Morisset has kept an archive of its inmates at all? <snipped>

Apologies for cross posting or if you get it twice, I have already sent it, but think it was in HTML as it hasn't come to the boards. Morisset Hospital Centenary 100 Years of Caring Centenary Celebrations Please join us on Saturday, 9th May 2009 10.30 - 3.30 Over 600 photographs past and present on display Memorabilia and Euphemera including uniforms etc. The day will basically be held around the Recreation Hall, cricket oval and waterfront at Morisset Hospital. The Rec Hall is a 100 year old building and probably the finest old building in Lake Macquarie and one of the best in the Hunter region. The Cricket Oval hosted a game between the Hospital and the town of Morisset in 1909 and was one of the finest turf ovals in the region and has seen players like Bradman and many others over the century it has been virtually unchanged, including Australian test player Bob 'Dutchy' Holland spending hours training in the nets and playing on the ground as a kid. The little museum we have put together for the day has items you wouldn't see anywhere else, including 5 electroconvulsive therapy machines going back 60 years, straight jackets that haven't been used for 50 years, the original admission register for the hospital from 100 years ago (names covered, but details viewable), sporting trophies that go back 100 years including cricket trophies from 1909 and soccer trophies from 1922, and many other interesting objects. The photo display, includes photos from 1910 till the present day and will fill a pretty large room to bursting. Lots of other things to see and do, including vintage and veteran cars along the waterfront, dragon boat racing and model yachts in the 'nameless bay', things to buy including the famous 'everlasting' pegs, plants, jams, but unfortunately none of the arts and crafts the hospital once produced. The hospital chapel will be open for viewing for the day, and it is one of the prettiest little chapels in the region. The hospital will probably shut within the next few years and if the fate of the sections that have closed in the past are any indication, vandals will destroy the place within a few years after it closes, so last chance to see probably. If coming off the freeway, drive through the town of Morisset and turn right immediately after crossing the railway bridge at the end of town (about 10 metres past the bridge) - that puts you on a road simply known as 'the Avenue' that is around 5 klm long and leads directly to the hospital (and nowhere else). Drive slowly and be on the lookout for Kangaroos and Wallabys, that jump out of the bush very unexpectedly at times. Once you reach the hospital the gates will be manned by the local fire brigade who will direct you to the waterfront area and parking spaces. If coming from Toronto, turn left just before the railway bridge at the north end of Morisset main street (Dora Street). MargaretB Lake Macquarie NSW Australia

Morisset Hospital Centenary 100 Years of Caring Centenary Celebrations Please join us on Saturday, 9th May 2009 10.30 - 3.30 Over 600 photographs past and present on display Memorabilia and Euphemera including uniforms etc. The day will basically be held around the Recreation Hall, cricket oval and waterfront at Morisset Hospital. The Rec Hall is a 100 year old building and probably the finest old building in Lake Macquarie and one of the best in the Hunter region. The Cricket Oval hosted a game between the Hospital and the town of Morisset in 1909 and was one of the finest turf ovals in the region and has seen players like Bradman and many others over the century it has been virtually unchanged, including Australian test player Bob 'Dutchy' Holland spending hours training in the nets and playing on the ground as a kid. The little museum we have put together for the day has items you wouldn't see anywhere else, including 5 electroconvulsive therapy machines going back 60 years, straight jackets that haven't been used for 50 years, the original admission register for the hospital from 100 years ago (names covered, but details viewable), sporting trophies that go back 100 years including cricket trophies from 1909 and soccer trophies from 1922, and many other interesting objects. The photo display, includes photos from 1910 till the present day and will fill a pretty large room to bursting. Lots of other things to see and do, including vintage and veteran cars along the waterfront, dragon boat racing and model yachts in the 'nameless bay', things to buy including the famous 'everlasting' pegs, plants, jams, but unfortunately none of the arts and crafts the hospital once produced. The hospital chapel will be open for viewing for the day, and it is one of the prettiest little chapels in the region. The hospital will probably shut within the next few years and if the fate of the sections that have closed in the past are any indication, vandels will destroy the place within a few years after it closes, so last chance to see probably. If coming off the freeway, drive through the town of Morisset and turn right immediately after crossing the railway bridge at the end of town (about 10 metres past the bridge) - that puts you on a road simply known as 'the Avenue' that is around 5 klm long and leads directly to the hospital (and nowhere else). Drive slowly and be on the lookout for Kangaroos and Wallabys, that jump out of the bush very unexpectedly at times. Once you reach the hospital the gates will be manned by the local fire brigade who will direct you to the waterfront area and parking spaces. If coming from Toronto, turn left just before the railway bridge at the north end of Morisset main street (Dora Street). MargaretB Lake Macquarie NSW Australia

Hi Margaret, I have a similar case for an inmate of 'Kenmore' asylum, near Goulburn NSW. Their records have no mention of her, but I have no doubt that she was an inmate and died there about 1940. Almost all of their records have been transferred to State Records at Kingswood, so this may be worth checking with regard to Morriset records. Good luck. Bennie.

Hi Listers I have a Francis R Walmsley born 1907 to William & Ellen at Maitland. He was generally always called Frankie, and would like to round off this part of the family with his death or burial date and place. I cannot locate anything for him. I know he never married, and I can recall talk as a child (in the 1940s) of some turns or fits he used to have. He became hard to manage whilst in the fits and was eventually taken to Morisset where electric shock treatment was supposed to cure him. I think this was in the 1930s or 40s and of course it didn't, infact it made things worse to the point that he became a permanent inmate, but during his normal periods he became one of the gardeners there and apparently grew vegetables for the institution and beautiful roses in special rose beds there. That is all I know of him and have checked the usual places for where he might be. His parents are in a vault at Campbell's Hill at Maitland and he isn't there with them, I cannot even see him in the BDMs for NSW. Does anyone know if Morisset has kept an archive of its inmates at all? as if they do this might be the only way that I can locate the answer. Where might an inmate from there be buried if no family steps forward to attend to such things? I ask that incase it is after 1950 that he died, as that is the year both his parents died. Any advise will be appreciated. Thankyou Margaret ************************* Margaret Bauer Qld, Australia. [email protected] *************************

Thanks, Bill I must admit to not being any more than a very occasional "requester of look ups", but appreciate very much the help I've received when asked. It behoves us all to try, in some way, to share a little of our time and skills in genealogy with others: be it by look-ups, leading user groups, answering List queries, delivering talks, writing articles etc. My two cents worth! Bruce Fairhall Bill wrote: > Dear Bruce, > The Ryerson Index would welcome offers from anyone who would like to > volunteer to do such lookups, or in fact any lookups for papers they have > access to, and that do not currently have a volunteer to do the lookups. > Sincerely,Bill NOTE: Message SNIPped!

Hi All, Late last year I completed a "Submission: Qld Digital Library Feedback". In this submission I enquired about the possibility of adding a "Post it" to any of these records so as connected researchers may leave a 'Post It' or Comments and/or email address (similar to FreeBMD UK). As an example, one resource for posting comment to would be the Convict Transportation Registers website an Austrialian Joint Copying Project, my suggestion was to allow researchers to add.......... eg Comments - Further references for this convict maybe found at.... State Records NSW Maitland Mercury Newspapers UK Archives Numerous researchers Yesterday I received an email from the QLD State Library stating they have revamped their database which now allows family historians to signup and post their own comments/research notes at the bottom of their ancestor's record. To have access to this feature you will have to go to the full record of your choice and signup for a "One-Search guest account". If you are a Queenslander you can use the "QPL account" or "e-services card" options if you wish. My example is..... http://www.slq.qld.gov.au/info/fh/convicts Find a convict - enter James WILLIAMS Marquis of Wellington click on the resulting entry of James Williams, one of 200 convicts transported on the Marquis of Wellington, August 1814. at the bottom of his details I have added information to the Reviews & Comments. A descendent of James WILLIAMS marries into my husband's MEYER family of Bantlen KofH>1855 Tasmaina> 1860s Rosewood QLD> late 1860s to Little Plain NSW. A great way to share reference information that is freely available elsewhere for one to search. Regards Jenny Lake Macquarie NSW