Hi Jenny, Bit difficult to identify the problem without knowing too much about it. It may be as Bill as suggested, because MS DOS is the basis for all Windows type software. Apparently in the early days of popular computing - around the mid 1980's - computer users found learning, or understanding the MS-DOS command lines too difficult. Mr. Microsoft, in his wisdom, "invented" Windows which is a visual representation of MS-DOS. In the past when I have had a problem, I have found the Help Desk technicians excellent at solving problems. So too, with local computer techs. Two drawbacks: First, the Help Desk techs may not help because your computer is out of the help period (although you may be able to pay a fee) and second, the local techs will charge. You need to be able to explain in detail what is the problem; when I did this, that happened etc. Cheers, Tony

Dear Jenny, It might help if you named the CD's as it is my understanding that a "path" needs to be created, and they are all different. There seems to be a variation between 32 bit and 64 bit operation, if I recall the numbers correctly, so knowing that also may be an advantage to someone trying to help. As for myself, well, I know where the on and off switches are. Vista has been a problem with may of the family history CD's and I am told that Vista is to be discontinued and replaced with another version of XP. Sincerely,Bill > Good evening > I have 3 cds which are relevant to my NSW research the problem I have is? > I have a new computer which is Vista and I cant seem to load the cds in to > the computer they are MOS DOS. > I would appreciate any advice as to how I can load them on to the > computer?

G'day Marg,   Would you be aware if there is any mention in Edward STINSON's books in relation to the ANSON and BUFF families.   They were generally located a little further south of the Wyong area in the Matcham Valley past the New Settlements.   Many thanks Wal Towells “May all the trees that you grow, bear fruit”   Need a Holiday? Win a $10,000 Holiday of your choice. Enter now.http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTJxN2x2ZmNpBF9zAzIwMjM2MTY2MTMEdG1fZG1lY2gDVGV4dCBMaW5rBHRtX2xuawNVMTEwMzk3NwR0bV9uZXQDWWFob28hBHRtX3BvcwN0YWdsaW5lBHRtX3BwdHkDYXVueg--/SIG=14600t3ni/**http%3A//au.rd.yahoo.com/mail/tagline/creativeholidays/*http%3A//au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset/%3Fp1=other%26p2=au%26p3=mailtagline

Good evening I have 3 cds which are relevant to my NSW research the problem I have is? I have a new computer which is Vista and I cant seem to load the cds in to the computer they are MOS DOS. I would appreciate any advice as to how I can load them on to the computer? Maybe reply of list if you feel we are going a bit of the list subjects? I would really appreciate it! Thanks from Jenny in Townsville!

Hi Greg, If you have any information on the WORMS family I would appreciate hearing from you. I could possibly connect with this WORMS family back to a marriage of Hyam WORMS and Hannah LEVY at the Great Synagogue of London 17 Oct 1798. Hyam (Henry) was convicted at the Old Bailey in 1824 and transported to Van Diemen's Land, this was after the death of his wife. I haven't managed to find Hyam's death nor have I searched the family from Singleton many of whom are buried in Whittingham Cemetery. Regards Jenny

Hello Dianna, George Roberts had land at Jerrys Plains and Warkworth in the Patrick Plains area [later Singleton]. His son Hamilton was married twice and lived in the Cowra area with his first wife and family. Upon the death of his first wife, he married Eleanor Danvers of/at Merewether in 1906. Their known children were: Florence-1908- at Singleton,--Enid-1910- Singleton,--Eunice-1912-Singleton,--Lloyd-1915-Singleton, and Bruce, whose date of birth is not known. Enid married Lew Worms of Singleton and Lloyd and Bruce married the Chenoweth sisters. One of the other sisters may have been a Mrs Ware of Tamworth. Ham Roberts had a furniture store in John St., Singleton up to his death. He was also a Funeral Director. Bruce and Lloyd carried on the business after their father's death. Both are now deceased. Lloyd served in WW2. Ham had brothers Jack and Alf Roberts-both of Singleton. Further information may be available if required. HTH. Greg.

Hi I'm doing research into ROBERT. A. ROBERTS who was born in Singleton in 1897 to HAMILTON ROBERTS and SARAH. Robert was a policeman who manned the station at WARROO. Robert served in WW1 and died in Cowra in 1936. Hamilton Roberts was born in Patricks Plains to George Roberts and Eliza Hamilton in 1869. Eliza was the daughter of ISAIAH and ANNE who were in the Singleton area. Any information on the family I would be very happy to hear from you Kind regards Dianna

Dear Listers I have removed the tagline of Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it. It had a marked effect on the replies posted to this list in that these are now more readable . A few fixed tag lines line such as ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Need a Holiday? Win a $10,000 Holiday of your choice. Enter now.http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTJxN2x2ZmNpBF9zAzIwMjM2MTY2MTMEdG1fZG1lY2gDVGV4dCBMaW5rBHRtX2xuawNVMTEwMzk3NwR0bV9uZXQDWWFob28hBHRtX3BvcwN0YWdsaW5lBHRtX3BwdHkDYXVueg--/SIG=14600t3ni/**http%3A//au.rd.yahoo.com/mail/tagline/creativeholidays/*http%3A//au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset/%3Fp1=other%26p2=au%26p3=mailtagline can make message trails can get very long and meaningless Can sometimes make it hard to find the answer to a query . This can get from bad to alot worse in a very short time if someone else adds their bobs worth and posts the lot back to the list without deleting any text It is to YOUR advantage to please before you post your answer back to the list that you just have a quick look to see WHAT it is you are posting ??? Have I deleted all the fixed tag lines ? Only takes a second or so to tidy up a reply........... Bye MargM Hunter Valley List Admin

Dear Tony, The etiquette Marg is talking about is to remove all but the necessary bit of the preceeding message. None of the past message should be left. This is of course to allow the list to flow smoothly, cut down on archiving the same information time after time, along with other unnecessary information which becomes attached from some servers. Compare what is left attached here, to the message every lister received when you wrote your comment. Time has shown that it works effectively. Sincerely,Bill > > I'm getting confused about whether we should or should not reply to a > message with the original message quoted under ours. > > Does all that has gone before mean that if we see a message, and it's > apparently a reply to an earlier message, and we don't know what the > original message is about, we should then go to the archives to find the > original message and all its replies?

Dear Christine, Proof of the death would lie more in the official registration. To prove the person is who you think it is you need either to get the Death Registration Certificate, or a transcription thereof. The majority have all the details of parents, spouse, children etc, which allows you to "prove" it is your person. Sincerely,Bill > My lot arrived 1855 of onboard the Mangerton > MULLINS...Patrick Honorah with 4 children > Julia bn 1833 Ellen 1836 Mary 1838 and Michael 1839 > I have Michael married to Julia > GODFREY..Julia bn 1835 a sister Catherine no arrival for either > Julia above I have nothing but a possible death in Braidwood 1868 > but no headstone to prove this > Ellen a total mystery > Mary married Patrick Bourke and had 9 children all in Morpeth > I recently found the burial site of Patrick Honorah and Michael in > Campbell Hill Cemetery Julia and children are in Morpeth

Morning All, I belong to many lists, most overseas. Generally speaking a reply and first message is common. Rarely have I seen more than two replies and the original message. If there is a reply to the reply then usually the original message is now defunct. Probably if you didn't reply to the first message then it is not really something you are involved in. We all do not have great retentive memories and subjects raised are varied and numerous. It is really up to the individual, and many are new to research, they will learn and copy others eventually. We don't need to harp on it. Regards Wal Beautiful sunny day on the Gold Coast.

Just trying to change topic which is taking up a lot of room and time........ My lot arrived 1855 of onboard the Mangerton MULLINS...Patrick Honorah with 4 children Julia bn 1833 Ellen 1836 Mary 1838 and Michael 1839 I have Michael married to Julia GODFREY..Julia bn 1835 a sister Catherine no arrival for either Julia above I have nothing but a possible death in Braidwood 1868 but no headstone to prove this Ellen a total mystery Mary married Patrick Bourke and had 9 children all in Morpeth I recently found the burial site of Patrick Honorah and Michael in Campbell Hill Cemetery Julia and children are in Morpeth Christene

Morning all, I'm getting confused about whether we should or should not reply to a message with the original message quoted under ours. Does all that has gone before mean that if we see a message, and it's apparently a reply to an earlier message, and we don't know what the original message is about, we should then go to the archives to find the original message and all its replies? Tony on the beautiful Sunshine Coast

Dear Wal, Of course we should also consider that Rootsweb desire the excess and unnecessary parts of the mesage to be removed. Should the expense of running this free list become too much, we may well be denied the luxury, if people do not follow the rules. Yet another recycled teenager. Marg, as List Administator for the list is only trying to run it in accordance with the rules. Sincerely,Bill > G'day Marg, > > I can appreciate where you are coming from and yes people should check > their email to see if some of the information in it is erroneous but it > would quite nice to see immediately what the message is all about from an > earlier point. > > Checking the archives can be a time consuming experience also. > > Please also allow me to apologise for the double posting as this recycled > teenager hit the button twice, sorry. > > > > > Wal Towells > “May all the trees that you grow, bear fruit”

Good morning Listers, Thank you to everyone who responded to my posting last week regarding the KING, PLUNLETT and WILD families of Patrick and Jerry's Plains. The information was very much appreciated. My cousin has contacted me again, with fresh information after I put some questions to her to assist me in researching her father's KING side of her family. She in turn contacted a distant cousin, whom she remembered had carried out some research on the family and I have included this information below. I had believed that the Thomas KING who arrived on the Bounty Immigration ship the "Forth" in Sept of 1841 was the Thomas who married Mary PLUNKETT, also a Bounty Immigrant who arrived on the "Adam Lodge" in 1840 as a 16 year old. However, I now have to discount this Thomas KING, as the marriage of the couple took place at St Mary's RC Church in Castlereagh Street in Sydney on 17th May 1841, four months before the arrival of the "Forth". Witnesses were Edward KEOUGH and Mary Anne NISSOLE. Thomas and Mary KING's son John was baptised on 19th January 1843 and daughter Jane was born/baptised on 15th August 1845, both at St Mary's RC in Sydney (though the baptisms could have been carried out by the travelling priest anywhere in NSW and later recorded at St Mary's from the priest's Journal). Now to the family story of Mary KING (nee Plunkett) dying young and Thomas KING having to leave the children with either friends or family, so he could go interstate to find work. I found that strange that he had to go interstate, as there would have been plenty of work in the Patrick and Jerry Plains districts and also in Newcastle around the late 1840s. I found a death of a Mary Ann KING and also the death of a baby, Mary Ann KING in 1849 (however no district mentioned on the Website). You always think that if a woman dies young back in Colonial days, that it maybe in or after child birth. The age of this Mary KING is 36 at the time of death. This could be a transcription error either on the death certificate or the Bounty Immigrants CD, as if it is our Mary, she would have been 26, going by the age of the Bounty immigrant, though she may have been 26 when she immigrated then the age at death would be correct. Also, I thought about the explanation of the disappeared of Thomas KING, I had a look on the Free Settlers and Felons Website and I found a number of Thomas KINGs mentioned in the right time line, and one of them had been arrested for murder???? I also found a few Thomas KING's who died in the right time line, one in particular died in 1848 at the age of 34. There are so many Thomas KINGS around at this time and not knowing who his parents were, makes it difficult. Though an elderly relation had carried out research many years ago, (now deceased and all records lost), had information that Thomas had lived in Thomas Street, Dublin and had arrived in the Colony in 1841 (convict or free unknown), though marrying in the year he arrived, makes you think he would have arrived as a free settler. When I found that Thomas and Mary's daughter Jane KING married 24 year old Englishman William WILD, on 17th July 1862 at Patrick Plains, I noted she was only 16 years old and would have had to receive consent to the marriage. Again I contacted my cousin to find out who were Jane's guardians, and they were Thomas and Catherine PRICE. Does anyone on the List know anything about the PRICE couple living in Patrick Plains? It would appear that Thomas and Catherine PRICE may have raised brother and sister John and Jane KING. William and Jane WILD (nee KING) had at least 13 children, all births registered either at Patrick Plains or Muswellbrook. John KING aged 21, married Mary "Jane" Geneviece McCarthy on 10th January 1864 at Jerry's Plains. Mary Jane McCarthy arrived in the Colony in 1860, on the "Lady McDonald" she was 20 years old. She came from a well to do family, was educated and a Governess. One may assume that she took up a position as a Governess to a family in the Patrick Plains district and that is how she met John KING and they married. John and Mary "Jane" had at least 10 children, all births registered at Patrick Plains. My cousin and her father's KING side of the family, wish to solve the mystery of Thomas and Mary KING (nee Plunkett), however, as this couple fall into the time when a lot of information was not required on birth, marriage and death church registrations, it makes it very difficult to find out what happened to them. Also, another story passed on down the family is that Mary KING (nee PLUNKETT), could trace her Irish ancestry back to Saint Oliver Plunkett, an Irish Martyr and I know if this can be proved, there would be a lot of excitement in the family. I have been able to find Mary's father Edward PLUNKETT on the 1851 Census, he was 55 years of age and living in St Mary's Lane in Kilmainham in Dublin, her mother Judy PLUNKETT (nee Miles) is not listed. http://www.irishpage.com/prayers/Plunkett.htm Any suggestions would be very much appreciated, especially through descendants of John KING and his sister Jane WILD (nee KING). Thank you. Regards, Janice Belrose - Sydney

----- Original Message ----- From: "Wal Towells" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 10:55 PM Subject: Re: [HV] Repeat messages >I agree Dawn and sometimes it is good to see the trend of >the messages particularly if you have come into things a >little late. > > Dear Wal The idea behind my inserting the tag line " Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it. " to all posted messages is to encourage subscribers to think about the amount of text they are posting back to the list when in the past they have added their ' Thanks for the info' to a complete message digest and sent the whole shebang back to the list ............ The affect of that is messages get posted more than once, get archived more than once and can quickly land up in an unintelligible string of multiples of Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it. To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message And taglines such as Need a Holiday? Win a $10,000 Holiday of your choice. Enter now.http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTJxN2x2ZmNpBF9zAzIwMjM2MTY2MTMEdG1fZG1lY2gDVGV4dCBMaW5rBHRtX2xuawNVMTEwMzk3NwR0bV9uZXQDWWFob28hBHRtX3BvcwN0YWdsaW5lBHRtX3BwdHkDYXVueg--/SIG=14600t3ni/**http%3A//au.rd.yahoo.com/mail/tagline/creativeholidays/*http%3A//au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset/%3Fp1=other%26p2=au%26p3=mailtagline that was tagged on your post by Yahoo Need to keep list mail readable and so my surprise this tag line of mine has worked quite well in this list and a couple of others I admin You can always play catch up and check the archives of any Rootsweb list . For the Hunter Valley go to http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/AUS-NSW-Hunter-Valley You posted your comment twice ............ Think about what you are posting please before you hit send and use the delete key to tidy any post My next project in tidying up list mail is " Does your message content match its subject header ' ?? Happy hunting Bye MargM Hunter Valley List Admin

Dear Wal, It is for that reason that we have all messages archived. The List Administrator put that message there in good faith and it is indeed poor etiquette not to do so, evidenced by that message being on this message three times. All a matter of space and time for listers who want to assist others plowing through information that is not productive. Have a look in the archives. Sincerely,Bill >I agree Dawn and sometimes it is good to see the trend of the messages >particularly if you have come into things a little late. > > Regards > > > > > Wal Towells

Good morning Listers, I was lucky to find a copy of "The NSW Calendar and Gernald Post Office Directory 1832", Facsimilie Edition in a 2nd hand book shop in Newtown a couple of years ago. I find it a wonderful reference book when writing about the district the families I am researching where living in, e.g:- Great Northern Road: 137 1/2 Miles. Cross a chain of ponds. On the left is the track towards the Goulburn; it first passes through the farm of Weller, a village reserve, the farm of Powditch, and the Church grant of Vane. At about nine miles is Tooth's farm, here the track crosses the new line of North Road just above the township of Lemington; three miles further you come immediately opposite Jerry's plains, situated on the southern bank of the Hunter; here some arrangements have been lately made for the establishment of a Police station; there is also a track through Jerry's Plains, connecting downwards with the horse road along the valley of Wollombi; before alluded to and upwards, with the track now describing, which, following the course of the Hunter reaches Sadlier's farm, etc.etc. Regards, Janice ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Jordan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 11:37 PM Subject: Re: [HV] New Book on Ancestry - The New South Wales Calendar andGeneral Post Office Directory, 1832 > True Bruce, but the rest of the book is off topic! > > 2009/5/15 Bruce Fairhall <[email protected]>: >

True Bruce, but the rest of the book is off topic! 2009/5/15 Bruce Fairhall <[email protected]>:

Quoting the entire text of a previous message or returning whole message digest in a reply is poor netiquette, annoying and time-wasting. Please don't do it Dawn in Sydney