Dear Fred, Have you tried checking the alphabetical index on www.records.nsw.gov.au which is State Records site? Another possibility is the Australasian Genealogical Computer Index on CD produced by the Society of Australian Genealogists. In Newcastle Library you will find a lot of family history information. Allow for spelling errors. Sincerely,Bill > Hi > I am trying to locate when my gggrandmothers parents arrived I Australia. > Her maiden name was Mary Feezel or similar married Frederick Worpole in > Morpeth in ABT 1875.

Hi I am trying to locate when my gggrandmothers parents arrived I Australia. Her maiden name was Mary Feezel or similar married Frederick Worpole in Morpeth in ABT 1875. Thank you Fred in wet Edgeworth NSW

Good morning Greg, Thank you so much for this information on Prices living in the district, it gives me somewhere to start. I will have to see if Thomas and Catherine Price had any children of their own. One thought I will look at is the 1841 Census, though the 1841 Census does not give all that much information, just the name of an owner of a property. Another problem is, after much searching I found when the Bounty Immigration ship the "Runnymede" arrived, it was on 30th August 1841, darn it, it arrived 3 months after the marriage of Mary Plunkett to Thomas King. So back to the drawing board, and I will have to look again more carefully to the Mary Plunkett who arrived on the "Adam Lodge". Though a thought is, she could have been a convict. I am beginning to realise that I may never be able to find out who Thomas King and Mary Plunkett were, where they came from (though I do know from the family that they were both Irish) and when they arrived in the Colony. Regards, Janice ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Ball" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 4:37 PM Subject: Re: [HV] Price family. > Hello Janice, > In the 1850/1860 era, A Mr Price held the mail contract > from Singleton to Jerrys Plains. His route was via Maison Dieu [a part of > the Singleton district] and across the Hunter River at Comleroi--the grant > to a Mr Bell. On one such trip he drowned while attempting to cross the > swollen river. > A Price family lived at Maison Dieu in a later period. This is noted by > the name of the Stock Reserve--which has always been known as Prices > Reserve.

Janice: On the NSW State Records site, the closest that I could get, was that the Runnymede arrived between APRIL and October 1841. (found at this link: http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/guides-and-finding-aids/nrs-lists/nrs-5316/?searchterm=runnymede ) Still hoping for you that another lister might know the exact arrival date for you. But it would seem that they were very quickly off the mark! ha ha. ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janice Doughty" <[email protected]> ... The first thing I have to find is when did the "Runnymede" arrive in 1841, > as Thomas KING and Mary PLUNKETT married on 17th May 1841. ...

Good evening Listers, I must correct something I wrote in my previous Email, in error I wrote that I did not want to find out anything about the PRICE family who were the guardians of Jane and John KING, when it fact the word was meant to be NOW I want and not NOT. So if any one can shed any light on the PRICE family I would very much appreciate it. Also, I think I have now found the correct Mary PLUNKETT the future wife of Thomas KING arriving in the Colony. She arrived as a 16 year old, with her 24 year old brother James and his wife 21 year old Rose PLUNKETT (nee McGuffern). The family arrived on the Bounty Immigration ship the "Runnymede" in 1841. The family were from Swadling Bar, Innarly Carvan, Ireland. James and his wife Rose settled in the Newcastle or Patrick Plains districts, they had 7 children, the youngest Bernard's birth was registered in Raymond Terrace. The first two children Mary born 1842 and Thomas born 1844, where named, I believe after James' sister Mary and her husband Thomas King. I now am on the hunt for more details on the family of James and Rose PLUNKETT. The first thing I have to find is when did the "Runnymede" arrive in 1841, as Thomas KING and Mary PLUNKETT married on 17th May 1841. Even though the marriage is in the Register as St Marys R.C. church in Sydney, they could have been married anywhere, as at this time there were galloping priests as well as the Rev. Thomas Hassall, the galloping parson. Regards, Janice ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [HV] Plunkett > Thanks Robyn. > Very wise advice. > (But I still 'know' that none of mine will ever be of that class! ha ha). > > Ray > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robyn Horan" <[email protected]> > >> You never know about the working class/landed gentry thing. I've seen a >> few >> who "fell from grace" and lived their lives very differently once they >> came >> to Australia. I have one whose father was a physician with very good >> connections and credentials. His sponsor at university was George >> Washington's physician, but my man went from being a pillar of society to >> a >> disgraced smuggler in one fell swoop. The son ended up as a stockman on a >> farm out in western NSW. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you Ray, I was in a hurry as hubby was waiting for me out in the car and I did not proof read the email before I sent it. I just found the error myself, so I will send an email pointing out that I do wish to know more about the price family. Thank you so much for pointing this out. I have found out a little more too, I think bit by bit the wall maybe tumbling down. Regards, Janice ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 5:44 PM Subject: Re: [HV] PLUNKETT > Hello again Janice, and once more I thank you for all of your great > advice. > > However, I am mainly replying to this on the list, because I THINK that a > typing slip-up might have perverted your original intention and meaning of > one of your sentences below. > > YOU WROTE: > "... I would not like to find out more about the Price family of Patrick > and Jerry's Plains." > > I THINK that you meant to say that you would NOW like to find out more > about > that PRICE family. > > If left the way that you had it, there might be kind people with > information > about the PRICE family, who would like to be in touch with you, but who > might comply with your there-expressed with NOT to be in touch; and that > would be a great pity. ha ha. > > Thanks one more time. > Ray > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janice Doughty" <[email protected]> > > ... I would not like to find out more about the Price family of Patrick > and Jerry's Plains. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks Robyn. Very wise advice. (But I still 'know' that none of mine will ever be of that class! ha ha). Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robyn Horan" <[email protected]> > You never know about the working class/landed gentry thing. I've seen a > few > who "fell from grace" and lived their lives very differently once they > came > to Australia. I have one whose father was a physician with very good > connections and credentials. His sponsor at university was George > Washington's physician, but my man went from being a pillar of society to > a > disgraced smuggler in one fell swoop. The son ended up as a stockman on a > farm out in western NSW.

Hello again Janice, and once more I thank you for all of your great advice. However, I am mainly replying to this on the list, because I THINK that a typing slip-up might have perverted your original intention and meaning of one of your sentences below. YOU WROTE: "... I would not like to find out more about the Price family of Patrick and Jerry's Plains." I THINK that you meant to say that you would NOW like to find out more about that PRICE family. If left the way that you had it, there might be kind people with information about the PRICE family, who would like to be in touch with you, but who might comply with your there-expressed with NOT to be in touch; and that would be a great pity. ha ha. Thanks one more time. Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janice Doughty" <[email protected]> ... I would not like to find out more about the Price family of Patrick and Jerry's Plains.

Hello Janice, In the 1850/1860 era, A Mr Price held the mail contract from Singleton to Jerrys Plains. His route was via Maison Dieu [a part of the Singleton district] and across the Hunter River at Comleroi--the grant to a Mr Bell. On one such trip he drowned while attempting to cross the swollen river. A Price family lived at Maison Dieu in a later period. This is noted by the name of the Stock Reserve--which has always been known as Prices Reserve. A Henry Price lived at Wylies Flat & Glennies Ck, in the 1845 -1877 era. His daughter Jane, married Alfred Watts of Warkworth, another married a John Paul. also of Warkworth. This area is about 10 miles from Jerrys Plains and both are in the same Parish. This family were Presbyterian. HTH. Greg Ball. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janice Doughty" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [HV] PLUNKETT > > Hi Ray, > > Thank you for your kind words. I love playing detective, however you are > right, many times you come up against a brickwall and there is no way you > can break it down. > > Though I am lucky at the moment, my King cousin is contacting all the > cousins and distant cousins on the King side of her family, which she is > aware have tried to carry out some family research on the family and a few > more facts are coming out of the wood work. > > Thomas King did leave the state to look for work and took himself to SA, > where the family believes he died. I had a look at the SA CDs for births, > deaths and marriages, again too many Thomas Kings to be sure who is who > and > if he is any one of them. He would have left some time after the death of > Mary King (nee Plunkett) in 1849. His two children John and Jane were > left > with Thomas and Catherine Price as their guardians. John felt that his > father had abandoned him (this came from an old Aunt). The children were > raised by the Prices, however John was treated as a servant and hated his > guardians, whereas Jane was treated as a Princess. I would not like to > find > out more about the Price family of Patrick and Jerry's Plains. > > I have just had a peek into my Devonshire Street Cemetery book, there are > 13 > Dayes that were buried at that Cemetery but no Catherine. If you wish to > follow up on the Camperdown Cemetery, the records are at the Mitchell > Library, under I think St Stephens Newtown. I know I looked up the deaths > of my husband's gg uncles children and we found the four of them there in > the church records. Also, at Kingswood, they have photographs of all the > headstones. > > The Bounty Immigration CD I have is a God send and was given to me some > years ago by one of my children as either a Mother's Day, Christmas or > Birthday present. Actually, they know what to buy me now, especially if > something new has come out to help with my research. I do have a NZ > marriage > CD, however it has not been installed as yet. I do have a friend that > also > has this CD and I will contact them today and ask them to look up a > marriage > between a Thomas Day and Catherine Plunkett, and let you know what they > find. > > Kind regards, > Janice > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ray" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 11:58 AM > Subject: Re: [HV] PLUNKETT > > >> Hello Janice. >> >> Thank you for providing such excellent information. >> I have long been impressed from the examples of your research skills >> which >> you have demonstrated in so many of your postings on the list, and this >> confirms that perception. >> >> You have provided me with a lot here to mull over; and I thank you >> greatly >> for it all. >> >> About that Catherine DAY who died in Maitland, if I recall correctly, my >> fellow-researcher on this family has obtained that death certificate, and >> it >> didn't assist us at all. grrr.... I think that I recall that it said >> that >> she was a 'matron', which at the time had us wondering if this meant a >> nursing/hospital matron, or merely an aged female. I think that in the >> end >> we concluded that it was more likely to be the latter. >> >> I also found on the Campbell's Hill cemetery listing, one for a Catherine >> DAY, which was probably for that same person. But upon going there to >> investigate the site, there was no headstone. I had intended returning >> to >> obtain details from surrounding headstones to see if that might have >> provided an inference as to her burial year; but have never since been >> able >> to do that. >> >> A wonderful 'cousin': Mrs Betty DRAYTON of East Maitland, when she was >> still >> alive, told me that she believed that Catherine's daughter Charlotte had >> mentioned that Catherine was buried in the old Devonshire Street >> cemetery, >> formerly located at now Central Railway in Sydney; but my investigation >> into >> that thought did not elicit any further clues either. grrr... >> >> I also had a thought that as Catherine's youngest daughter: Mary Patience >> DAY had died in 1857 and had been buried at Camperdown Cemetery, so too, >> that might have been the location of Catherine's burial -- with >> Camperdown >> being very close to Devonshire Street; but have never been able to follow >> up >> on that thought either. >> >> I was completely unaware of the shipping arrivals which you mention, and >> am >> extremely grateful for those references from you too. >> >> Again, with much gratitude, I thank you deeply for all that you have >> provided so expertly to assist us in our search. >> >> Best wishes in your own continued researches. >> Ray >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Janice Doughty" <[email protected]> >> >>> Hello Ray, >>> >>> I have found a few things that may help you with your family search. Or >>> they may have nothing to do with the ancestors you are searching for. >>> >>> A Catherine Plunkett a Roman Catholic, 20 (born circa 1821) from >>> Manchester >>> Lancashire Eng. (she may have been born in Ireland). Domestic Servant >>> under >>> the protection of William Bates and wife, arrived on the Bounty >>> Immigration >>> ship "Joseph Cunard" in 1841. Reel 1330. 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You never know about the working class/landed gentry thing. I've seen a few who "fell from grace" and lived their lives very differently once they came to Australia. I have one whose father was a physician with very good connections and credentials. His sponsor at university was George Washington's physician, but my man went from being a pillar of society to a disgraced smuggler in one fell swoop. The son ended up as a stockman on a farm out in western NSW. On 18/05/2009, Ray <[email protected]> wrote: > > > About Burke's Peerage... > ...I am also very conscious of the working class context of all of my > families > on that line; so I 'know' that there would never be any landed gentry > connections. Thank you nevertheless for the kind thought in that regard. > > With gratitude: Ray > >

Hi Ray, Thank you for your kind words. I love playing detective, however you are right, many times you come up against a brickwall and there is no way you can break it down. Though I am lucky at the moment, my King cousin is contacting all the cousins and distant cousins on the King side of her family, which she is aware have tried to carry out some family research on the family and a few more facts are coming out of the wood work. Thomas King did leave the state to look for work and took himself to SA, where the family believes he died. I had a look at the SA CDs for births, deaths and marriages, again too many Thomas Kings to be sure who is who and if he is any one of them. He would have left some time after the death of Mary King (nee Plunkett) in 1849. His two children John and Jane were left with Thomas and Catherine Price as their guardians. John felt that his father had abandoned him (this came from an old Aunt). The children were raised by the Prices, however John was treated as a servant and hated his guardians, whereas Jane was treated as a Princess. I would not like to find out more about the Price family of Patrick and Jerry's Plains. I have just had a peek into my Devonshire Street Cemetery book, there are 13 Dayes that were buried at that Cemetery but no Catherine. If you wish to follow up on the Camperdown Cemetery, the records are at the Mitchell Library, under I think St Stephens Newtown. I know I looked up the deaths of my husband's gg uncles children and we found the four of them there in the church records. Also, at Kingswood, they have photographs of all the headstones. The Bounty Immigration CD I have is a God send and was given to me some years ago by one of my children as either a Mother's Day, Christmas or Birthday present. Actually, they know what to buy me now, especially if something new has come out to help with my research. I do have a NZ marriage CD, however it has not been installed as yet. I do have a friend that also has this CD and I will contact them today and ask them to look up a marriage between a Thomas Day and Catherine Plunkett, and let you know what they find. Kind regards, Janice ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [HV] PLUNKETT > Hello Janice. > > Thank you for providing such excellent information. > I have long been impressed from the examples of your research skills which > you have demonstrated in so many of your postings on the list, and this > confirms that perception. > > You have provided me with a lot here to mull over; and I thank you greatly > for it all. > > About that Catherine DAY who died in Maitland, if I recall correctly, my > fellow-researcher on this family has obtained that death certificate, and > it > didn't assist us at all. grrr.... I think that I recall that it said that > she was a 'matron', which at the time had us wondering if this meant a > nursing/hospital matron, or merely an aged female. I think that in the end > we concluded that it was more likely to be the latter. > > I also found on the Campbell's Hill cemetery listing, one for a Catherine > DAY, which was probably for that same person. But upon going there to > investigate the site, there was no headstone. I had intended returning to > obtain details from surrounding headstones to see if that might have > provided an inference as to her burial year; but have never since been > able > to do that. > > A wonderful 'cousin': Mrs Betty DRAYTON of East Maitland, when she was > still > alive, told me that she believed that Catherine's daughter Charlotte had > mentioned that Catherine was buried in the old Devonshire Street cemetery, > formerly located at now Central Railway in Sydney; but my investigation > into > that thought did not elicit any further clues either. grrr... > > I also had a thought that as Catherine's youngest daughter: Mary Patience > DAY had died in 1857 and had been buried at Camperdown Cemetery, so too, > that might have been the location of Catherine's burial -- with Camperdown > being very close to Devonshire Street; but have never been able to follow > up > on that thought either. > > I was completely unaware of the shipping arrivals which you mention, and > am > extremely grateful for those references from you too. > > Again, with much gratitude, I thank you deeply for all that you have > provided so expertly to assist us in our search. > > Best wishes in your own continued researches. > Ray > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janice Doughty" <[email protected]> > >> Hello Ray, >> >> I have found a few things that may help you with your family search. Or >> they may have nothing to do with the ancestors you are searching for. >> >> A Catherine Plunkett a Roman Catholic, 20 (born circa 1821) from >> Manchester >> Lancashire Eng. (she may have been born in Ireland). Domestic Servant >> under >> the protection of William Bates and wife, arrived on the Bounty >> Immigration >> ship "Joseph Cunard" in 1841. Reel 1330. If you look at the information >> on >> the Reel, it may have Catherine's parents names and more information that >> could assist you. ... > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Janice. Thank you for providing such excellent information. I have long been impressed from the examples of your research skills which you have demonstrated in so many of your postings on the list, and this confirms that perception. You have provided me with a lot here to mull over; and I thank you greatly for it all. About that Catherine DAY who died in Maitland, if I recall correctly, my fellow-researcher on this family has obtained that death certificate, and it didn't assist us at all. grrr.... I think that I recall that it said that she was a 'matron', which at the time had us wondering if this meant a nursing/hospital matron, or merely an aged female. I think that in the end we concluded that it was more likely to be the latter. I also found on the Campbell's Hill cemetery listing, one for a Catherine DAY, which was probably for that same person. But upon going there to investigate the site, there was no headstone. I had intended returning to obtain details from surrounding headstones to see if that might have provided an inference as to her burial year; but have never since been able to do that. A wonderful 'cousin': Mrs Betty DRAYTON of East Maitland, when she was still alive, told me that she believed that Catherine's daughter Charlotte had mentioned that Catherine was buried in the old Devonshire Street cemetery, formerly located at now Central Railway in Sydney; but my investigation into that thought did not elicit any further clues either. grrr... I also had a thought that as Catherine's youngest daughter: Mary Patience DAY had died in 1857 and had been buried at Camperdown Cemetery, so too, that might have been the location of Catherine's burial -- with Camperdown being very close to Devonshire Street; but have never been able to follow up on that thought either. I was completely unaware of the shipping arrivals which you mention, and am extremely grateful for those references from you too. Again, with much gratitude, I thank you deeply for all that you have provided so expertly to assist us in our search. Best wishes in your own continued researches. Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janice Doughty" <[email protected]> > Hello Ray, > > I have found a few things that may help you with your family search. Or > they may have nothing to do with the ancestors you are searching for. > > A Catherine Plunkett a Roman Catholic, 20 (born circa 1821) from > Manchester > Lancashire Eng. (she may have been born in Ireland). Domestic Servant > under > the protection of William Bates and wife, arrived on the Bounty > Immigration > ship "Joseph Cunard" in 1841. Reel 1330. If you look at the information > on > the Reel, it may have Catherine's parents names and more information that > could assist you. ...

Hello Ray, I have found a few things that may help you with your family search. Or they may have nothing to do with the ancestors you are searching for. A Catherine Plunkett a Roman Catholic, 20 (born circa 1821) from Manchester Lancashire Eng. (she may have been born in Ireland). Domestic Servant under the protection of William Bates and wife, arrived on the Bounty Immigration ship "Joseph Cunard" in 1841. Reel 1330. If you look at the information on the Reel, it may have Catherine's parents names and more information that could assist you. Catherine's protector William Bates 28 (born circa 1813) from Manchester Lancashire a Protestant, a Labourer to be employed by Mr. Chaine of Sydney, arrived on the Joseph Cunard in 1841, with his wife Elizabeth 28 and 9 month old son Joseph. Elizabeth Bates is the daughter of Edward and Sarah Turner. Also, on the same ship was a William Plunkett, a Protestant 18 years of age the son of Joseph and Ellen Plunkett and he was from Manchester, Lancashire. Then a Thomas Day 18 years old (born circa 1824) an Agricultural Labourer arrived on the Bounty Immigration ship "Sarah Botsford" in 1842 to work for Mr. Turner of Goulburn County Argyle. Two children were born to Thomas and Elizabeth BATES after their arrival in the colony, James in 1843 and Henry in 1844. It appears William BATES died a year after the birth of Henry, at the age of 32 (born circa 1813). Elizabeth BATES remarried in 1849 to Henry C CURLEWIS in the Presbyterian Church at either Derbie, Hunter District, Maitland, Morpeth, Paterson, Singleton. So we have the family in the Hunter. Elizabeth and her second husband appear to have had one child born in 1850 Elizabeth C CURLEWIS to Charles Henry and Elizabeth CURLEWIS. So when Catherine DAY (nee PLUNKETT) returned with Thomas DAY from NZ, she may have made her way up to the Hunter because of Elizabeth CURLEWIS (Bates nee Turner), the lady she sailed with from England on the "Joseph Curard", has settled there with her second husband. Would these be the marriages of the Bates children:- 2623/1871 BATES JOSEPH BLISHEW SOPHIA MAITLAND 2153/1866 BATES WILLIAM HENRY ALLWAY JANE ANNA HARTLEY Not sure about James' marriage. I cannot find a death for Henry Charles or Charles Henry CURLEWIS or for Elizabeth CURLEWIS. Maybe they moved interstate or returned to the Old Dart. Or are they connected to the well know CURLEWIS family, I think one was a Judge. I found a Catherine DAY died at the age of 45 in Maitland. Could this be your missing Catherine? This would fit into your thoughts that she was actually still alive when Thomas L Day married for the second time. Have you ever investigated this death? Regards, Janice ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 5:25 PM Subject: Re: [HV] PLUNKETT > Hello Liz & Janice. > > Just jumping onto the bandwaggon here with my own PLUNKETT ancestor; who > is > a major brick wall in herself. > > Mine is Catherine PLUNKETT who later is supposed to have married Thomas > Leach DAY; however we have never encountered any marriage record for them, > neither in London where he originated, nor in New Zealand where it seems > that they might have met, nor in oz where it was thought that they might > have to gone to NZ from. >

Hello Jenny, This family had a mensware shop in Campbell St., Singleton, up to about 1955 when, following the great flood of that year, the business failed to re-open. I think it traded as H.W.Worms & Co. I recall that Lew's mother was alive at the time--but I never saw her husband--so assume that he had passed away. Lewis H. was born 1906 at Singleton, as was his sister Trilby--so they may have been twins. They were the children of Henry Worms and Elizabeth E. Lane, who married in Singleton in 1895. Lew & Enid married in 1929 at Singleton--probably All Saints CoE. They had two sons, Kaye and Kerry and possibly a daughter, Karen Following the closure of the shop, Lew & Enid left Singleton for a short time to live in Gunnedah or Tamworth, where Lew managed the Gunnedah radio station [ 2MO I think]. Lew Worms died at Toronto about 16th May, 1997, while Enid Irene passed away at Booragul about 30 Nov., 2003. Both were cremated. Kaye married Margaret Wood--they may still live in Singleton. Their family may number 4/5. I have no knowledge of any families for Kerry or Karen. Thats about all I know Jenny--so I hope you find it helpful. Best of luck. Greg.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Wal Towells" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 10:22 PM Subject: Re: [HV] Is Graeme O'Reilly out there?- WATERs of Yarramalong > G'day Marg, > > Would you be aware if there is any mention in Edward > STINSON's books in relation to the ANSON and BUFF > families. > > They were generally located a little further south of the > Wyong area in the Matcham Valley past the New Settlements. > Hi Wal Are a couple of refs to Buff Point ..ferry service and Buff Point Estate but not to anyone called BUFF No ANSON ref at all In Charles SWANCOTTs book 'Blue Gum Flat to Budgewoi ' there are 2 ANSONs Thomas and William jnr in a list of Wyong residents from the Gosford Court House Day book 1861 - 1881 and only Buff refs are geographic Bye MargM Hunter Valley List Admin

Hi Marg, Yes, thanks for that - I have five of Stinson's volumes, and just got the index - see my other message. There's a staggering number of old Ezekiel's descendants out there. Cheers David FWIW.............. In Edward STINSONs books on the history of Wyong there are 3 1/2 pages of WATERS refs in the index done by Tuggarah Library

Hi Wal, According to the annotated index of Stinson's books from Wyong shire library, there is no mention of ANSON and the only mention of BUFF is Buff Point. You can download it here http://www.wyong.nsw.gov.au/netopac/Annotated%20Index%20to%20Stinson.pdf - saves a lot of searching. Cheers David Would you be aware if there is any mention in Edward STINSON's books in relation to the ANSON and BUFF families.

Thank you for your great synopsis, Liz. Yes: not one forename in common there. Oh well, it was worth a try! About Burke's Peerage: yes, I photocopied the PLUNKETT pages from that several decades ago, just in case I might someday have enough to go backwards with, but as you can see, that has never happened. I am also very conscious of the working class context of all of my families on that line; so I 'know' that there would never be any landed gentry connections. Thank you nevertheless for the kind thought in that regard. With gratitude: Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Liz Parkinson" <[email protected]> > Hi Ray > > I wish that some of your story tied in with mine, but it doesn't seem to > do so unfortunately. My Margaret Plunkett was a daughter of a Gerald > Plunkett and a Roseanna Fitzgerald, who was apparently born in Newry, > Armagh in 1833. She arrived in NSW in 1850 on a ship bringing out Irish > orphans. She lived in Gympie, Qld, where she & John Punter had 12 > children. It is presumed that they were married, but like your case, no > documentation exists. ...

----- Original Message ----- From: "David Coggins" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 7:35 PM Subject: [HV] Is Graeme O'Reilly out there? > In 2004 Graeme O'Reilly posted a message on this message > board re the Waters family, descendants of Ezekiel Waters > of Yarramalong. > Hi David FWIW.............. In Edward STINSONs books on the history of Wyong there are 3 1/2 pages of WATERS refs in the index done by Tuggarah Library Bye MargM Hunter Valley List Admin

Hi Ray I wish that some of your story tied in with mine, but it doesn't seem to do so unfortunately. My Margaret Plunkett was a daughter of a Gerald Plunkett and a Roseanna Fitzgerald, who was apparently born in Newry, Armagh in 1833. She arrived in NSW in 1850 on a ship bringing out Irish orphans. She lived in Gympie, Qld, where she & John Punter had 12 children. It is presumed that they were married, but like your case, no documentation exists. Their grand-daughter, my grand-mother was Alma Davies, who was nursing at Maitland Hospital in the early 1900's when she met my grand-father, who then lived at Ellalong. They later moved to Muswellbrook. There are a lot of Plunketts in Ireland, but the families are almost impossible to trace unless one comes from one of the aristocratic lines. Then it's easy, as they're documented in places like "Burke's Peerage". Mine aren't there, but perhaps you might find something in one of those places. There would be connections way back, but finding them are the problem. Your Catherine seems to be an earlier generation than mine, and trying to find out why she travelled to the colonies seems part of the puzzle. Best of luck! Cheers Liz P > Hello Liz & Janice. > > Just jumping onto the bandwaggon here with my own PLUNKETT ancestor; who is > a major brick wall in herself. > > Mine is Catherine PLUNKETT who later is supposed to have married Thomas > Leach DAY; however we have never encountered any marriage record for them, > neither in London where he originated, nor in New Zealand where it seems > that they might have met, nor in oz where it was thought that they might > have to gone to NZ from. > > We first encounter them in Auckland, New Zealand, between 1843 and 1850 when > and where their first 5 eldest children were born; the baptisms for whom > give their mother's maiden surname as PLUNKET or PLUNKETT. > >