Hello List I am an hopelss collector - can anyone tell me how to methodically hoard snippets which appear from tim to time, such as lately, the information about Pittown? I have no immediate use or connection for it, but I know it impinges on my ultimate big picture. Help! Cheers Jan ____________________________________________________________________________________ Access Yahoo!7 Mail on your mobile. Anytime. Anywhere. Show me how: http://au.mobile.yahoo.com/mail
Norm Barney in "Growth Driven By Rich Coal Deposit" published on page 7 of the Newcastle Herald supplement of 11 Nov 1997 wrote that the name Wallsend first appeared in a Hunter Valley context in the 1850s when Alexander Brown purchased land "bounded by what is now Newcastle Rd, Boundary St, Croudace St and beyond Gunambi Rd". His company formed to operate the colliery which opened in January 1861 was called the Newcastle-Wallsend Coal Company, Wallsend being a reference to the namesake town in Northumberland, ENG. The town of Wallsend "was laid out in 1860 and was bounded by Kemp, Murnin, Brooks, Brown and Metcalfe streets. Brown's company surveyed an area from its Nelson St boundary to Thomas St and then from Brooks St to Irving St and sold it as the town's first freehold subdivision. The coal company also built two-room homes for their employees and rented them for one shilling and sixpence a week." An earlier grant of land in the Wallsend area had been made to "Mary Cowper, daughter of the Colonial Chaplain, the Rev. William Cowper" by Governor Gipps. This land was later divided between her children including one portion which "went to a daughter who married Willam Platt. When that portion of land was subdivided it became Plattsburg. Mary gave her name to Maryland." The article concludes by recording that "Wallsend became a municipality in 1874 ....Plattsburg was incorporated two years later and the two towns were separate townships until 1915 when the two councils were amalgamated." In one of its series of columns called "Suburbs", The Newcastle Hearld supplement on 18 March 2004, page 38 recorded TWO former Pit Towns (both spelt with one 'T' unlike the Hawkesbury area name for Lord Pitt, Pitt Town). "Among the city's lost names Newtown is today's Hamilton North, Smedmore was at the north-west end of Wickham, and Happy Flat, Pit Town and Borehole are now all parts of Hamilton. "Onebygamba, Chapman Island, Bullock Island and Hetton were all earlier names for Carrington. To the west there was once Mafeking and Ladysmith, names taken from major battles in the Boer War. "Like Hamilton, Wallsend had a Pit Town as well as a Brookstown, Hanbury was an early name for Waratah and west of Broadmeadow was The Commonage." As for Pit-town and Goat Hill, there is http://www.newcastle.edu.au/service/archives/aboriginalstudies/wallsend.html which is a transcription of item A6725(v) [Unsourced and undated, c.1895-1921] in the Percy Haslam Collection, Archives Rare Books & Special Collections Unit, Auchmuty Library, University of Newcastle. "Goats were numerous on the Pit-town area. The hill at the back of the area was crowded with goats, and they appeared to be wild ones. No doubt they became a pest, as the Council ordered their destruction many years ago. "Mr T. Griffin was the person who took the matter in hand, under the council’s direction. The designation “Goat Hill,” took its name on account of the prevalence of goats in that vicinity in the earlier days of Wallsend." As noted before, the Newcastle Library gives the following: http://www1.newcastle.nsw.gov.au/library/placea.cfm?FIRST=g Goat Hill Name for the Pit-town area of Wallsend possibly in reference to the fact that goats were numerous in and appeared to be wild ones. N Sun 23.04.1924. http://www1.newcastle.nsw.gov.au/library/placea.cfm?FIRST=p Pit Town ( Hamilton) Area of Hamilton consisting of Beaumont Street to Swan Street. NMH 20.10.1956. Pit Town (Wallsend) Originated when the Newcastle Wallsend Coal Company established two rows of houses near its mine 12 kilometres west of Newcastle, and rented them to its employees and their families on a weekly basis. Docherty,J: Newcastle, Making of an Industrial City. ... Plattsburg After William Hamden Platt, son of John Laurion Platt, the minister sent by Governor King to take charge of mining operations in Newcastle and district. Location north of Cowper Street. NMH 24.12.1953 Regards 2009/7/11 Rosalee <[email protected]>:
Nanny Goat Hill is behind Gunambi St Hill Street is considered Platsburgh Kerrie wrote: > Hi Rosie > > Thanks for your description, I've had a look on google maps but I can't see > Nanny Goat Hill mentioned. Could you tell me what street it is near. Also > would Hill Street have been included as part of Pit Town or Platsburg? > > Thank you > Kerrie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rosalee" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 4:03 PM > Subject: Re: [HV] Pitt Town Wallsend > > > >> Hi Kerrie >> I live in Pitt Town, Wallsend. >> Its the area between Nanny Goat Hill, and Lake Road. It extends to the >> Wallsend Park, and includes the Newcastle Link Rd. >> >> Plattsburgh is the area between Boundary St, Wallsend and Marylands - it >> includes the Wallsend pool, and Wallsend High School. >> Rosie >> >> >> Kerrie wrote: >> >>> hi Listers >>> >>> Could anyone tell me where Pitt Town near Wallsend or Plattsburg was >>> located? >>> >>> Many thanks >>> Kerrie >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >
Thanks for the link Deb, I think I will be using it a lot in future. Regards Kerrie > Hunter Valley Place Names and their Meanings > > http://tinyurl.com/nfey5n
Hi Rosie Thanks for your description, I've had a look on google maps but I can't see Nanny Goat Hill mentioned. Could you tell me what street it is near. Also would Hill Street have been included as part of Pit Town or Platsburg? Thank you Kerrie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rosalee" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [HV] Pitt Town Wallsend > > Hi Kerrie > I live in Pitt Town, Wallsend. > Its the area between Nanny Goat Hill, and Lake Road. It extends to the > Wallsend Park, and includes the Newcastle Link Rd. > > Plattsburgh is the area between Boundary St, Wallsend and Marylands - it > includes the Wallsend pool, and Wallsend High School. > Rosie > > > Kerrie wrote: >> hi Listers >> >> Could anyone tell me where Pitt Town near Wallsend or Plattsburg was >> located? >> >> Many thanks >> Kerrie >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Hi Kerrie I live in Pitt Town, Wallsend. Its the area between Nanny Goat Hill, and Lake Road. It extends to the Wallsend Park, and includes the Newcastle Link Rd. Plattsburgh is the area between Boundary St, Wallsend and Marylands - it includes the Wallsend pool, and Wallsend High School. Rosie Kerrie wrote: > hi Listers > > Could anyone tell me where Pitt Town near Wallsend or Plattsburg was located? > > Many thanks > Kerrie > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >
Hi I'm doing research into James Tulloch who was the son of James and Helen/Elen Tulloch. He married first to Jane Russell in Maitland in 1863, then married Margaret Russell in 1874. James died in GRETA in 1917. I'm also researching his sister Sarah Tulloch who married Richard Boyle. Any help much appreciated Dianna
hi Listers Could anyone tell me where Pitt Town near Wallsend or Plattsburg was located? Many thanks Kerrie
Just an adjustment to the link I gave... not sure if it was an old one but the one I currently find is different: Hunter Valley Place Names and their Meanings http://tinyurl.com/nfey5n Deb.
Hi Kerrie, 'Originated when the Newcastle Wallsend Coal Company established two rows of houses near its mine 12 kilometres west of Newcastle, and rented them to its employees and their families on a weekly basis.' It is listed with one T in Pit not two. There is another one listed too (at Hamilton). The list gives references as to where the placename was mentioned. http://www1.newcastle.nsw.gov.au/library/placea.cfm?FIRST=p Hope this helps a little. Deb. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerrie" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 1:24 PM Subject: [HV] Pitt Town Wallsend > > Could anyone tell me where Pitt Town near Wallsend or Plattsburg was > located?
Yes, but try searching for a surname with over 100 entries: only the first 100 are listed! To get them all it has to be state by state. Bruce Fairhall Judy Waterer wrote: > Makes tracking my family a doddle. Only 23 Waterers listed for the whole of > Australia. > Judy.
Makes tracking my family a doddle. Only 23 Waterers listed for the whole of Australia. Judy. From: "MargM" <[email protected]> > > Have you noticed how this data base has improved ??? . You > can now do county wide surname searches , > like I just found there are 3132 x J WALKERs ! >
Hello Marg, Thanks for putting that in. I used to be married to one of those J. Walkers, and at one stage I made enquiries at one of our larger banks about how many Elizabeth Rose Walkers there were on their customer base. In that particular bank, in this state (NSW), there were something like 40 of us, and Australia wide, several hundred. The James Walkers outnumbered the Elizabeths by many hundreds - and I knew there were thousands of James. I wonder if "John" Walker is almost as common as "James" - I would presume it is. I feel it shows that in families with reasonably common "Christian" names, they should give their children three names, not the usual two. Thoughts on a cloudy day. Liz Lake Macquarie. MargM wrote: > Dear Listers > > Have you noticed how this data base has improved ??? . You > can now do county wide surname searches , > like I just found there are 3132 x J WALKERs ! > > Excellent ! > > > Bye > > MargM > List Admin > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >
Hi Liz & listers, I searched for someone yesterday & gave up... just too many in the given area. I named my daughter with what was an unusual name because of our common surname. Was told many a time that it was beautiful but unusual. Not so unusual... I can do a Google & find many with her first & surname (hopefully none of them have her middle name). The interesting thing is that these girls/women seem to have the same interests that my daughter has! I've always found the connection between names & people's personalties very interesting. When researching an ancestor I often think of people I know of the same name & ponder whether they were the same in personality/character. Anyway it's a very good & timely reason to be careful about our research & whether we have the right person when we find some information. Just some thoughts on my way out... Deb. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth Walker" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [HV] Big change in the on line Whitepages <snipped>
Dear Listers Have you noticed how this data base has improved ??? . You can now do county wide surname searches , like I just found there are 3132 x J WALKERs ! Excellent ! Bye MargM List Admin
Hi Margaret, On the 1930 electoral roll there is a nurse listed at 28 Bourke Street, West Maitland - Elizabeth SAWYER. Deb. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Bauer" <[email protected]> To: "Maitland & Hunter NEWSGROUP" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 1:01 PM Subject: [HV] Nurse Sawyer > Hi Listers > > Can anyone tell me Nurse Sawyer's name who along with Nurse Horne ran the > "Clarine" Private Women's Hospital in Bourke Street Maitland please?
Hi Listers Can anyone tell me Nurse Sawyer's name who along with Nurse Horne ran the "Clarine" Private Women's Hospital in Bourke Street Maitland please? Thankyou Margaret ******************** Margaret Bauer Qld, Australia [email protected] ********************
Hi Heather I had a similar problem with a PAF file a few weeks ago, it appeared to be read only (this is occasionally a problem with CD backups. I found that if I copied and pasted the file to the computer it was able to read it. I then opened as per usual. Regards Linda > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 14:09:57 +1000 > From: "Heather" <[email protected]> > Subject: [HV] Family Tree Maker - need help > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi everyone > > I need Help. > > Many years ago I put my family tree and history on Family > Tree Maker 4.4 and backed it up on cd. But when our old > computer gave up I thought I would be able to just open the > CD on our new computer. But it did not work. > > I bought a new FTM 2009 version but cannot upload all the > old info. > > What do I do? > > Kind regards > Heather > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Access Yahoo!7 Mail on your mobile. Anytime. Anywhere. Show me how: http://au.mobile.yahoo.com/mail
Hi Heather FTM has changed the format in which the program stores data over the years. I have had a look at FTM 2009 and it seems that the current version will only import from FTM v5 files and newer. You could try sending a query to the online help centre on the FTM web site. If you still have the old program you could try loading it onto your new computer and converting the old data to GEDCOM format. You should be able to then open that with FTM 2009 and then store the data in the new format. I have a couple of older versions of FTM that may be able to open your file. If you contact me off list we can explore that possibility further. Regards Jan Daly -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Heather Sent: 05 July 2009 14:10 To: [email protected] Subject: [HV] Family Tree Maker - need help Hi everyone I need Help. Many years ago I put my family tree and history on Family Tree Maker 4.4 and backed it up on cd. But when our old computer gave up I thought I would be able to just open the CD on our new computer. But it did not work. I bought a new FTM 2009 version but cannot upload all the old info. What do I do? Kind regards Heather ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I am researching the Lynch family from Weston and Kurri Kurri and am looking for other researchers with an interest in this family. Rosalee