Hello Ray, Thank you for your advice. I have just tried again (without supplying any dates) and yes, there is now a long list of James Browns for me to sort through ! With thanks, Marje PS I would like to thank everyone who has given advice freely from their knowledge and taken an interest in my search for James Brown > Hello again Marje. > > Mmmm??? I am not too sure what you mean about no 'result'. > That is, I don't understand if you meant that you did NOT obtain that 256 > or > whatever hits when you entered the details into the TNA search engine. > OR: if you meant that none of those 250 or so were yours. > > If the latter, then I can't really help any further. And the excellent > advice which you have just received from Deb would be the best avenue to > pursue. > > BUT if you mean that you couldn't get any of those results, I will just > walk > you through it again. > First: click on the link which I provided originally below. That takes you > to the TNA search engine. > Then in the first line of data asked for, just enter james brown > (no inverted commas, no need for capitals, no spaces before or after). > Then in the bottom line enter WO being the letter w and the letter o for > War > Office. > Then click on SEARCH, and you should have the same results as I get. > I just tried it again, using the link which I had sent to you below, and > it > worked. > So if this is not working for you, I am afraid that I am unable to help in > any way, as I am technologically hopeless. > > Hoping that this might get it for you this time. > Regardless, the advice which Deb has sent you is outstandingly good. > > regards: ray > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marjedawn_1" <[email protected]> > >> Hello Ray, >> >> Thank you for your reply and the website of the TNA. >> >> However I was not able to find a result when I searched for James Brown - >> any suggestions please? >> >> regards >> Marje > > > ... if you go to this web-site -- being the search facility for TNA ... > in > England, and enter james brown > in the 'word or phrase' input box, and then enter WO into the 'department > or series code' box; you should obtain over 250 hits for James BROWN in > the > british military. (... try the same for James Browne ... too.) > ... http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/search.asp > ... > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Deb, Thank you for your reply and such good advice. The URL's have given me a lot of information to follow up. Gratefully, Marje > Hi Marje, > > It may pay to ask on the UK-MILITARY list. Mike Shingleton on that list > is > very knowledgeable & helpful. He is a respected military researcher & is > very familiar with the WO records at TNA & other resources. > He also does paid military research, his website being > http://www.resthepast.co.uk/ > > There is some interesting info at > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonial_forces_of_Australia which helps to > explain why he might have been in different places. > > Bob Marmion has done a thesis "The Victorian Volunteer Force on the > Central > Victorian Goldfields 1858-1883". > There is some interesting information about why he would have been > instructing in Victoria (eg on page 23 - Ch 1). > http://www.lib.latrobe.edu.au/thesis/public/adt-LTU20050430.150445/index.html > You may find some good references in his Bibliography and there are some > photos of volunteer corps (possibly men he would have trained). > > Hope this helps a little. > > Cheers, > Deb. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marjedawn_1" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 5:50 AM > Subject: Re: [HV] British Volunteer Army 19th Century > > >> >> Hello Ray, >> >> Thank you for your reply and the website of the TNA. >> >> However I was not able to find a result when I searched for James Brown - >> any suggestions please? >> >> regards >> Marje >> > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello again Marje. Mmmm??? I am not too sure what you mean about no 'result'. That is, I don't understand if you meant that you did NOT obtain that 256 or whatever hits when you entered the details into the TNA search engine. OR: if you meant that none of those 250 or so were yours. If the latter, then I can't really help any further. And the excellent advice which you have just received from Deb would be the best avenue to pursue. BUT if you mean that you couldn't get any of those results, I will just walk you through it again. First: click on the link which I provided originally below. That takes you to the TNA search engine. Then in the first line of data asked for, just enter james brown (no inverted commas, no need for capitals, no spaces before or after). Then in the bottom line enter WO being the letter w and the letter o for War Office. Then click on SEARCH, and you should have the same results as I get. I just tried it again, using the link which I had sent to you below, and it worked. So if this is not working for you, I am afraid that I am unable to help in any way, as I am technologically hopeless. Hoping that this might get it for you this time. Regardless, the advice which Deb has sent you is outstandingly good. regards: ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marjedawn_1" <[email protected]> > Hello Ray, > > Thank you for your reply and the website of the TNA. > > However I was not able to find a result when I searched for James Brown - > any suggestions please? > > regards > Marje ... if you go to this web-site -- being the search facility for TNA ... in England, and enter james brown in the 'word or phrase' input box, and then enter WO into the 'department or series code' box; you should obtain over 250 hits for James BROWN in the british military. (... try the same for James Browne ... too.) ... http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/search.asp ...

Hi Looking for information on three daughters of George ROBERTS and Eliza HAMILTON. Sophia Roberts b 1872 married John WALKER in 1913. Jane Roberts b 1875 married Alfred PARKER (no date) Eliza Roberts b 1879 married Albert ANDREWS in 1910. These two had Roanld H. Andrews in 1913 he married Enid Dorsman in 1951 and another daughter was Grace.H. b 1916. I'm trying to find any children born to Sophia/John Walker and Jane/Alfred Parker. Any information on these three families would be very much appreciated Kind regards Dianna

Hello Ray, Thank you for your reply and the website of the TNA. However I was not able to find a result when I searched for James Brown - any suggestions please? regards Marje > Hi Marje. > > I have no knowledge to help with your direct queries. > However, if you go to this web-site -- being the search facility for TNA > (The National Archives) in England, and enter james brown > in the 'word or phrase' input box, and then enter WO into the 'department > or > series code' box; you should obtain over 250 hits for James BROWN in the > british military. (If you try the same for James Browne you might get > other > hits too.) > > Scrolling through the hits, with what you know, MIGHT bring to light your > fellow. > http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/search.asp > > HTH: ray > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marjedawn_1" <[email protected]> > > ... I am looking for the family of James and Sarah Jane Brown . >> James was a Sergeant Instructor of Volunteers, ( of British Army ) who >> was stationed in Victoria c.1859, Hobart, 1860 - 1865, then in New >> Zealand in 1866 - 7 >> >> Their son Reginald was born in Victoria in abt.1859. >> Two daughters, Adeline, abt.1863 and Frances Albinia abt.1865 were born >> at >> Hobart Town and another son, Horatio was born in New Zealand in >> abt.1866. >> >> Does ayone have information regarding the British Volunteers who served >> in >> the colonies? > ... Marje > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Marje, It may pay to ask on the UK-MILITARY list. Mike Shingleton on that list is very knowledgeable & helpful. He is a respected military researcher & is very familiar with the WO records at TNA & other resources. He also does paid military research, his website being http://www.resthepast.co.uk/ There is some interesting info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonial_forces_of_Australia which helps to explain why he might have been in different places. Bob Marmion has done a thesis "The Victorian Volunteer Force on the Central Victorian Goldfields 1858-1883". There is some interesting information about why he would have been instructing in Victoria (eg on page 23 - Ch 1). http://www.lib.latrobe.edu.au/thesis/public/adt-LTU20050430.150445/index.html You may find some good references in his Bibliography and there are some photos of volunteer corps (possibly men he would have trained). Hope this helps a little. Cheers, Deb. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marjedawn_1" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 5:50 AM Subject: Re: [HV] British Volunteer Army 19th Century > > Hello Ray, > > Thank you for your reply and the website of the TNA. > > However I was not able to find a result when I searched for James Brown - > any suggestions please? > > regards > Marje >

Hi Ian, I only read last-first too. And I completely misunderstood .. 'cos I dared not actually look (at that time) at the URL cited. Or so I thought. However, McAfee says this 'old programs' site is safe. So I have now looked and I behold the error or my ways .. a big "ooops!!!". Nonetheless, the WayBackMachine might be of interest to some people to know about? Cheers, John At 08:30 PM 2/08/2009 +1000, you wrote: >Ooops, seem to have duplicated some of John's careful reply - the >problem with reading last emails first. >Regards >Ian Jordan >2009/8/2 John <[email protected]>: >... >> http://web.archive.org/collections/web.html >> >> At that try their "Advanced Search". >> > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Ooops, seem to have duplicated some of John's careful reply - the problem with reading last emails first. Regards Ian Jordan 2009/8/2 John <[email protected]>: ... > http://web.archive.org/collections/web.html > > At that try their "Advanced Search". >

Hi this might be off topic, but ... if you are looking for old versions of data as opposed to a place where you can download software, try the following: PANDORA http://pandora.nla.gov.au/ Hosted by the National Library of Australia - your taxes at work - this hosts a large collection of websites with various point in time versions. They also link to other sites doing the same or a similar job: http://pandora.nla.gov.au/otherpeoplesarchives.html The Wayback Machine http://www.archive.org/web/web.php Seems to concentrate on US material and the site also houses lots of other stuff. I'm rather addicted to old time radio programs and old TV shows and films but there's a lot of material for the family historian. Try this Moebius strip (NLA pointing to Wayback pointing to NLA!) link: http://www.archive.org/details/national_library_of_australia Well, there goes your bandwith limit for the month! Regards Ian Jordan Sydney

Hello Tony, I misunderstood even what was being considered .. because I didn't even want to check on www.oldversion.com (if Norton warned against it) without first submitted it to some online site advisor for safety. But if McAfee gives it a tick then it is okay by me. McAfee is up there in same ranks as Nortons in such knowledge/competence. This means that just going to the site itself won't harm the computer. Then of course if you download an old program some such could be as suss now as they were then .. Reputable programs should be just fine. For example I see it offers for Eudora: """" Download Eudora Older Versions Eudora 1.4.4 (0.3 MB) Eudora 1.5.2 (0.7 MB) Eudora 1.5.4 (2.0 MB) Eudora Light 3.0.1 (4.0 MB) Eudora Light 3.0.3 (4.7 MB) Eudora Light 3.0.6 (4.4 MB) Eudora 5.1 (6.1 MB) Eudora 5.1.1 (6.2 MB) Eudora 5.2 (6.1 MB) Eudora 5.2.1 (6.1 MB) Eudora 6.0.1 (7.6 MB) Eudora 6.1.2 (8.1 MB) Eudora 6.2.1 (9.1 MB) Eudora 6.2.3 (9.1 MB) Eudora 7.0.1 (16.4 MB) """" I'm writing and sending this with Eudora Light 3.0.1 ,, which is primitive I know .. I've never wanted to "update". ... because "newer is not always better". In old Eudora I can actually find where things are on the hard disk. And you can convert a mailbox (MBX) simply to a Word DOC file (basically almost as easy as renaming it .. because its ascii/ansi or something). As for newer email programs like the inbuilt Microsoft one in Windows I have no idea at all where the data actually is on disk or how to access it .. so it is potentially an 'accident' waiting to happen, I think. Or maybe I am very old fashioned. Cheers, John At 07:30 PM 2/08/2009 +1000, you wrote: >Thanks Deb. Interesting comments; some say good, some say bad. I'm not >an expert so I think I'll go with those who say 'bad'. >Tony > >Deb wrote: >> Hi Tony, >> >> This is what McAfee has to say (they say it's OK though)... & interesting >> comments left by people including the owner of the site. >> http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/oldversion.com >> >> Deb. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Tony" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 3:43 PM >> Subject: Re: [HV] Old versions of programs >> >> >> >>> Hi MargM, >>> >>> Just clicked on your link and got an instant message from Norton (my >>> anti-virus software) to say that the site was 'unsafe'. Don't know >>> exactly what that means, but it might be worth checking. >>> >>> Tony >>> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Thanks Deb. Interesting comments; some say good, some say bad. I'm not an expert so I think I'll go with those who say 'bad'. Tony Deb wrote: > Hi Tony, > > This is what McAfee has to say (they say it's OK though)... & interesting > comments left by people including the owner of the site. > http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/oldversion.com > > Deb. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tony" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 3:43 PM > Subject: Re: [HV] Old versions of programs > > > >> Hi MargM, >> >> Just clicked on your link and got an instant message from Norton (my >> anti-virus software) to say that the site was 'unsafe'. Don't know >> exactly what that means, but it might be worth checking. >> >> Tony >> > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >

Thanks Deb, That (http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/oldversion.com) is just what I was wanting to find .. after Tony's note on Norton warning. But I made a further error in thinking people wanted to go back to old verions of websites/history .. rather than executable programs, sigh. Cheers, John ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ At 04:12 PM 2/08/2009 +0800, you wrote: >Hi Tony, > >This is what McAfee has to say (they say it's OK though)... & interesting >comments left by people including the owner of the site. >http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/oldversion.com > >Deb. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Tony" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 3:43 PM >Subject: Re: [HV] Old versions of programs > > >> Hi MargM, >> >> Just clicked on your link and got an instant message from Norton (my >> anti-virus software) to say that the site was 'unsafe'. Don't know >> exactly what that means, but it might be worth checking. >> >> Tony > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

>MargM wrote: >> Just been directed to www.oldversion.com for a goldmine of prior versions of almost anything. I just downloaded Adobe v6 reader which I think works alot better than v9. Something new fangled isnt always better ! >> MargM >> List Admin Then at 05:43 PM 2/08/2009 +1000, Tony wrote: >Hi MargM, >Just clicked on your link and got an instant message from Norton (my >anti-virus software) to say that the site was 'unsafe'. Don't know >exactly what that means, but it might be worth checking. >Tony Hi Tony, Good luck with Norton. I'm interested in what your message means too. I'm having a lot of trouble with Norton lately. I have Norton Internet Security (NIS) but it is about to run out of subscription. So had to buy it again, and was advised by show that it has now updated to "Norton 360", so I bought that but after installation discovered that it lacks the former easy-click function to instantly block all internet traffic. I really do value and often use (whenever actually not actively working on web - email or browser) the block/allow function. I tried asking Norton if some little utility was known which I could add to do that .. seeing the new version of software I'd just paid good money for lacks it. But seemingly "No", so I'll have to go and buy another NIS even though I just paid for the Norton 360 which I was told superceeded it. Yet before I go and buy another NIS, which will doubtless be another/later version to the one I've got installed on computers, I wanted to know from Norton could they please confirm that the latest version of NIW *still* will have this 'Block Traffic' feature?". I've had to be asking that question more than one - and still have not got an answer. This is a very simple question, one might think. I'd be interested if you can get any answer from Norton on a technical question like your "Don't know exactly what that means". Is www.oldversion.com really a dangerous site, or is your Norton's program giving you a furphy about that? Where is there an online test site which we can submit the URL = www.oldversion.com to for independent assessment of this? In the meantime, another such archives place you can try is called the "Wayback Machine". I've been researching the past history of Homebush Bay and I've had reasonable success with the 'WaybackMachine' service. Some very extensive historical research accompanied the development of Olympic Park at Homebush Bay - e.g. pre the 2000 Olympics. I am interested in what the place was like before the current array of big stadiums, international hotel and growing assortment of highrise. In the "Sydney Olympic Park Masterplan" of May 2002 part of the "key planning and development principles" was stated as "to conserve aboriginal heritage". In particular, they ran an Aboriginal History and Connections Program (AHCP) for three years which achieved a thorough researching, archiving and documenting of the history of Aboriginal connections to the Homebush Bay area. Bits and pieces re this were 'published' at the time on (former versions) of the website. Since then it has sadly all disappeared from the current Olympics Park Authority website. I've watched the history of it unfold. First known as the Olympic Coordinating Committee, which began in 1995, there was for many years little or nothing available on the the webpages about history. I began to try and find the way back with this: http://web.archive.org/collections/web.html At that try their "Advanced Search". In general this service tells you: "Surf the web as it was - The Internet Archive Wayback Machine puts the history of the World Wide Web at your fingertips. The Archive contains over 100 terabytes and 10 billion web pages archived from 1996 to the present. To start using the Wayback Machine to surf the web as it was, just type a URL (a web site address) into the box above, click the Take Me Back button, and start exploring the past." Searching there on www.oca.nsw.gov.au (you need to know 'former' URLs if such have in fact changed .. and that could be a bit of a problem sometimes. But in my example it does give 180 results (the first began saving it in 1998). Searching there on the subsequent URL (= www.sydneyolympicpark.com.au) also shows another 198 results (from 2002 onwards. This URL change in this case occurred because the OCA was scheduled to "devolve into the Sydney Olympic Park Authority" effective July 1, 2001. There is some overlap though - it was announced that "The Olympic Co-ordination Authority (OCA) closed 31 June 2002" but the OCA website remained through to the end of 2003. From August 2002 a Sydney OIympic Park website also appeared, and both co-existed for a time ... so in cases of overlap periods it can be useful to check both sources. Just how many of these web archivers are there, I wonder. The archives for large corporate websites may be full of all sorts of bugs and incompletely .. but they are certainly better than nothing. Another service, which probably is high quality and checks it's archived stuff, is called "Pandora" but I think it is much more selective in what on the web it conserves. Unless somebody *does* conserve the web it is all destined to vanish sooner or later as any part of it depends on some web server being turned on. And whatever is turned on will one day be turned off. Cheers, John in Sydney

Hi MargM, Just clicked on your link and got an instant message from Norton (my anti-virus software) to say that the site was 'unsafe'. Don't know exactly what that means, but it might be worth checking. Tony MargM wrote: > Just been directed to www.oldversion.com for a goldmine of > prior > versions of almost anything. I just downloaded Adobe v6 > reader which I think works alot better than v9 > > Something new fangled isnt always better ! > > > > MargM > List Admin > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >

Just been directed to www.oldversion.com for a goldmine of prior versions of almost anything. I just downloaded Adobe v6 reader which I think works alot better than v9 Something new fangled isnt always better ! MargM List Admin

Hi Tony, This is what McAfee has to say (they say it's OK though)... & interesting comments left by people including the owner of the site. http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/oldversion.com Deb. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 3:43 PM Subject: Re: [HV] Old versions of programs > Hi MargM, > > Just clicked on your link and got an instant message from Norton (my > anti-virus software) to say that the site was 'unsafe'. Don't know > exactly what that means, but it might be worth checking. > > Tony

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Marj, Google "Tasmanian Archives" the Pioneers link should be on the home page. Regards, Jenny

Hi Marg M, I have lost the URL for a site which gave access to BDM and other information of the pioneers of the 19th century in Tasmania. The was a free search facility. Do you have any clues? Cheers Marje