Anne, Thank you for the tip off with regards to the NLA newspaper website. I see the Maitland Mercury ranges from 1843 to 1893 with only about 17 of those years presently covered. Do you know when they will be uploading more years to the collection? Regards Brent

Hi all My grandfather (Daniel Galvin) was a miner in the HV and on the NLA newspaper digitisation site I've been tagging mining related articles relating to the Hunter (also mining in and around Coen and the gold areas of Nth Qld if anyone has interests there). My Hunter related tags can be accessed on the NLA Newspaper digitisation site and include: Abedare Colliery, Hunter valley mines, Hunter valley mining accidents and Hunter Valley mine deaths. These will mainly refer to newspaper articles that you can access through the NLA site (see http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home ). I cannot overstate how great that site is and how it should be used by all family history researchers as well as people and students with an interest in, not only Australia's history, but how news from overseas was reported. I have found 190 references for one of my families in papers from all over Australia which I would never have expected. Admittedly they have an unusual name (German immigrants to the Hunter) but I have also found references to my Smiths as well in my searches. A fabulous resource! In the context of mines, general information, accidents and deaths the digitised newspapers are a very valuable resource. For those who haven't visited the site, it's the National Library of Australia site. Another great form of assistance for Australian residents is that you can sign up online and access a range of digital information. Hope this is useful Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: "terry " <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 2:17 PM Subject: Mineworkers Accidents and fatalaties > Good Afternoon, > > > > For those researchers who expressed interest in my data base ' > Mineworkers > Accidents and Fatalities', I have commenced adding the names to my web > site > at http://home.pacific.net.au/~tandd/RootFolder4/intro_mineworkers.html > > > Terry > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello All. Following Marg's lead in providing us with new helpful web-sites which she discovers, this one just appeared on one of my Irish lists. http://www.belfast-gazette.co.uk >From the home-page where that link opens up, there are options on the top left for the London Gazette and for the Edinburgh Gazette, as well. They appear to be something like our present Government Gazettes here in Oz; and/or like our original Sydney Gazette -- but only posting official notices, not general news items etc. I've just spent hours on the site, sadly without finding any relevant 'hits', but hoping that listers might find something of value in it -- as it goes waaaay back. Good Luck. Ray

Hello again Phillip. Thanks for this. What a great bit of local and family history that item makes. I wonder if they were grateful that it didn't collapse whilst they were walking on it. I was not aware that the bridge had collapsed. When I searched under "Long Bridge" Maitland at the National Library of Australia pictures web-site, there were lots of photos of concrete work being constructed on the bridge, which I was unaware of; so this would now explain it. At the time of the flood, Phillip, we were living in the western suburbs of Sydney, and being a kid, I had no idea at that stage that the family had originated in Maitland, still living almost adjoining the Long Bridge at the time of the flood -- in Bull Street, formerly called Thompson's Lane -- on the eastern side, on my John THOMPSON ancestor's original Veteran's land grant which had stretched right across from Thompson's Lane to Regent Street; so from the photos at the NLA, it would seem that the entire grant would have looked like a river then. Phew! Thanks for sharing this interesting item. Regards again: Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phillip Carruthers" <[email protected]> ... As a matter of interest my father and next door neighbour Adrian Jones were the last to walk east to west on the Long Bridge in 1955 before it collapsed. One of Frank Hector's butchers vans drove the other way and would most probably have been stranded in town until the water receded. We lived in Hannan Street at the time and my father carried me out across the bridge not long before it collapsed... ...

Ray, As a matter of interest my father and next door neighbour Adrian Jones were the last to walk east to west on the Long Bridge in 1955 before it collapsed. One of Frank Hector's butchers vans drove the other way and would most probably have been stranded in town until the water receded. We lived in Hannan Street at the time and my father carried me out across the bridge not long before it collapsed... Phillip Carruthers Brisbane, Australia +617 3273 5531 ----- Original Message ----- From: Ray To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [HV] Sketch of Long Bridge WEST MAITLAND Good Morning Phillip. Thank you for this. Greatly appreciated. Yes, to me also, the topography looks wrong, yet all that I could imagine was that the large building and what looks like two huge formal gardens on the bank in front of it would have been the hospital. I just put it down to my lack of knowledge of what Regent Street must have originally looked like. But I couldn't recall having seen any reference to industry requiring a chimney like that on the Regent Street side. Whereas I had read of industry on the eastern side, but again the topography would look wrong for that view too; and I can't place such a grand 'house' and formal garden on the eastern side with that aspect. So overall, it would seem that your feeling of artistic licence would be the most likely one. Thanks again Phillip. Regards: Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phillip Carruthers" <[email protected]> > Ray, > > In my view it's an artists impression with a lot of license. The artist > would have been standing near Hampton Court on the east side and the grand > looking building on the other side right of the picture is the Maitland > Hospital. No idea what the factory is on the left. and the topography to > the left looks wrong. ... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you to Ian & Bill for your helpful replies. I spose nailing down the actual location of these ECR ceremonies involves a bit of guesswork. It's not unusual for them to be well over 100km from the church. I'm pretty satisfied though that this one took place aroundabouts the current setting of Christ Church cathedral. Regards Brent

Good Morning Phillip. Thank you for this. Greatly appreciated. Yes, to me also, the topography looks wrong, yet all that I could imagine was that the large building and what looks like two huge formal gardens on the bank in front of it would have been the hospital. I just put it down to my lack of knowledge of what Regent Street must have originally looked like. But I couldn't recall having seen any reference to industry requiring a chimney like that on the Regent Street side. Whereas I had read of industry on the eastern side, but again the topography would look wrong for that view too; and I can't place such a grand 'house' and formal garden on the eastern side with that aspect. So overall, it would seem that your feeling of artistic licence would be the most likely one. Thanks again Phillip. Regards: Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phillip Carruthers" <[email protected]> > Ray, > > In my view it's an artists impression with a lot of license. The artist > would have been standing near Hampton Court on the east side and the grand > looking building on the other side right of the picture is the Maitland > Hospital. No idea what the factory is on the left. and the topography to > the left looks wrong. ...

Ray, In my view it's an artists impression with a lot of license. The artist would have been standing near Hampton Court on the east side and the grand looking building on the other side right of the picture is the Maitland Hospital. No idea what the factory is on the left. and the topography to the left looks wrong. Phillip Carruthers Brisbane, Australia +617 3273 5531 ----- Original Message ----- From: Ray To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 11:02 PM Subject: [HV] Sketch of Long Bridge WEST MAITLAND Hello All. I am hoping that listers who are very familiar with West Maitland might be able to help me out with more details about the photograph of the Long Bridge, in the link below -- which is to a photo of the sketch, in the National Library of Australia -- on its web-site. Here is the link: http://nla.gov.au/nla.pic-an8329629 My question is whether the foreground is on the eastern (Maitland town / Newcastle) end/side of the Long Bridge, looking westward to perhaps the hospital on the top right? OR, whether it is the opposite view, FROM the western (Telarah / Singleton) end, looking eastward towards the town of Maitland itself. AND .. being greedy ... Is anyone able to identify what that industrial chimney is likely to be on the top left, please? (Or any of the other structures etc. in the photo for that matter. For example I'd love to know what the little shack is on the bottom right (foreground); ) Grateful for any insights, as it is something which has long perplexed me. Thanks in advance. Ray ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello All. I am hoping that listers who are very familiar with West Maitland might be able to help me out with more details about the photograph of the Long Bridge, in the link below -- which is to a photo of the sketch, in the National Library of Australia -- on its web-site. Here is the link: http://nla.gov.au/nla.pic-an8329629 My question is whether the foreground is on the eastern (Maitland town / Newcastle) end/side of the Long Bridge, looking westward to perhaps the hospital on the top right? OR, whether it is the opposite view, FROM the western (Telarah / Singleton) end, looking eastward towards the town of Maitland itself. AND .. being greedy ... Is anyone able to identify what that industrial chimney is likely to be on the top left, please? (Or any of the other structures etc. in the photo for that matter. For example I'd love to know what the little shack is on the bottom right (foreground); ) Grateful for any insights, as it is something which has long perplexed me. Thanks in advance. Ray

Thank you Peter, Jan, Mike, Payne & Joe for your helpful answers. I made a copy from the microfilm, it says at the top "Parish of Christ Church Newcastle, County of Northumberland". Why the index church reference code "CH" includes Hexham I don't know; there certainly is a lands parish of Hexham, Co. Northumberland but that doesn't appear to extend east of Wallsend. My James Mulholland was "of Hexham parish" whilst his bride Mary Mottram was "of this parish" i.e. Newcastle. In this instance I think the mention of Hexham is a red herring and the 1847 marriage must have literally taken place at Christ Church in Church Street, Newcastle. Regards Brent

The marriage is recorded in the Parish Register for Christ Church, not the Parish Register for Hexham. Please see my earlier posts. 2009/10/3 Bill <[email protected]>: >

Dear Brent and Jan, We should remember that prior to civil registration the records are church records, and show the district for that particular church, which may be different for another church in their boundaries. Some of the churches had roving Ministers, and registrations for events which took place weeks ago might have been recorded when the Clergy was next back at his church, having been on the road on horseback. Forget about jumping into the air conditioned fast car on good (maybe) roads and be in Sydney in a few hours. It took a week or so then. Sincerely,Bill > I am researching Isaac Perrett and Mary Ross, whose marriage is also > recorded in the register of Christ Church Newcastle 11 October 1831 and > BDM > states district as "CH". The early church record listing for "CH" shows > Hoxham, (which I assumed should be Hexham), Newcastle, Christ Church. > > I am also puzzled. Christ Church Anglican Cathedral is in Church Street, > Newcastle. E-mail message checked by Internet Security (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.13400 http://www.pctools.com/en/internet-security/

Hi Brent and List This record has been digitised and is on the UoN Flickr site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/uon/2504867896/sizes/l/in/set-72157605132739200/ Marriage not at Hexham but in Christ Church on the hill at Newcastle. Regards Ian Jordan 2009/10/3 Brent Richards <[email protected]>: > Hello > > I'm researching James Mulholland & Mary Mottram whose marriage was > recorded in the register of the Christ Church Newcastle in 1847.  I > notice the BDM index states simply "Hexham; Newcastle; Christ Church". > The minister was Charles Pleydell Wilton.  I'm a tad confused.

The Parish Registers for the Anglican Diocese of Newcastle for the period 1826 - 1995 have been lodged with the University of Newcastle. They have microfilmed them and made the microfilms available at a number of locations in NSW, the ACT and Qld. See: http://www.newcastle.edu.au/service/archives/anglicandiocese/parish.html 2009/10/3 Brent Richards <[email protected]>: > Hello > > I'm researching James Mulholland & Mary Mottram whose marriage was > recorded in the register of the Christ Church Newcastle in 1847.  I

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Koperberg" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 5:03 PM Subject: Re: [HV] Christ Church Newcastle marriage 1847 >snip< > I am also puzzled. Christ Church Anglican Cathedral is in Church Street, > Newcastle. > It was the Parish of Hexham. C of E district of Christ Church. Confusing aint it. Regards, Mike Harvey Newcastle NSW [email protected] ne probas spurii te in pulverem contere No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However, a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.

Brent, Good evening. Would suggest you obtain a copy of the marriage certificate (or Transcript) as it is quite possible the event did not actually take place in a church. I had a similar problem where the records showed the same as yours (which was prior to civil registration). Mine actually took place at the brides place of residence in the Upper Hunter. The marriage document shows "Marriage solemnized in the Parish of Christchurch Newcastle, in the County of Northumberland in the year 1832, then goes on to nominate the names of the bride and groom and where the ceremony took place and the names of the witnesses etc. The reference in the NSW BDM's shows the place as "CH" which as you probably know is the code for Hexham; Newcastle Christ Church. Trust this helps. Peter Gwandalan -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Brent Richards Sent: Saturday, 3 October 2009 4:21 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [HV] Christ Church Newcastle marriage 1847 Hello I'm researching James Mulholland & Mary Mottram whose marriage was recorded in the register of the Christ Church Newcastle in 1847. I notice the BDM index states simply "Hexham; Newcastle; Christ Church". The minister was Charles Pleydell Wilton. I'm a tad confused. James states that he is of Hexham parish; Mary of "this parish". I was wondering where the church was/is and if the marriage would have taken place at Hexham or Newcastle. If anyone knows or can point me in the right direction that would be beaut. Regards Brent P.S. My Hunter Valley interests: Cameron: Maitland, Morpeth; 1851+ McLeod: Maitland, Morpeth; 1860+ Moyles/Mottram: Newcastle; 1836+ Mulholland: Newcastle, Maitland, Port Stephens; 1829+ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Brent, If you can get to the Newcastle Regional Library you could look through the film for 1847 to find the section with Christ Church records. This should provide the answer to your question. Joe

Hello Brent I am researching Isaac Perrett and Mary Ross, whose marriage is also recorded in the register of Christ Church Newcastle 11 October 1831 and BDM states district as "CH". The early church record listing for "CH" shows Hoxham, (which I assumed should be Hexham), Newcastle, Christ Church. I am also puzzled. Christ Church Anglican Cathedral is in Church Street, Newcastle. Regards Jan Koperberg Blue Mountains, NSW > I was wondering where the church was/is and if the marriage would have > taken place at Hexham or Newcastle. > > If anyone knows or can point me in the right direction that would be > beaut. > > Regards > Brent

Hello Liz, Family reunion at Vacy on Sat 10th Oct 2009.(next Saturday)William and Elizabeth Jones and family. Sophia Jones married William Huegh Walker. All were at some time in the Paterson / Gresford area. If you are related to these Walkers come along and join in at the Vacy hall at 10am. Sandra. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Walker Sent: Saturday, 3 October 2009 2:28 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [HV] St Leonards Pub. Girls School Hello Dorothy, Are you looking in the Hunter Valley, or where?? It is possible there was a school with that name around the St.Leonards/ Naremburn area of Sydney at that period of time. It would be between Crows Nest and Willoughby. Liz Walker, Lake Macaquarie. Dorothy Moore wrote: > Hello List, > > I'm looking for "St Leonards Pub. Girls School Sept.1889" - (as taken from > Grannie's presentation book) > > Your help would be appreciated. > > regards > dorothy > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.14.3/2410 - Release Date: 10/02/09 18:24:00

Hello Liz, Bill, Jenny, thank you - Grannie's book states "St Leonards Pub. Girls School Sept.1889" and is signed "L.P.Dixson". In the book Government Schools of New South Wales, the St Leonards school was a Special Public School in 1889 - so I'm missing the 'Girls' word. I'll look in the Archives in Brief and also the Sands. And yes, I am looking in the Hunter Valley - unless of course this school was for boarders - which I hadn't really considered, but I think the family would have been financial. many thanks, this is a very helpful and informative list. regards dorothy