Hi Alison and List! Thanks for the info - am still "recovering" from the info uncovered yesterday - Eleanor and Ormsby were indicted for murder of a police sergeant - with Ormsby being "shipped" off to Newcastle with kids and Eleanor doing time in Parra Gaol... havent had a chance to get more detail as yet (have to earn a crust somewhere in amongst this stuff...) But thanks for the tip on the Tas List and I will catch up with that thread also! BTW, am also interested in the Cribb line, the Hewitt Line who married into the Skuthorpes! Thanks again! Liz