Mordant and Miney appear to have had one child in 1893, and no more. Leslie M B Gunn, birth 3763 of 1893. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lorna Clauson" <lornaclauson@mac.com> To: <AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 5:34 PM Subject: [H,H,HV] family search > Hello everyone, > I'm Lorna Clauson, (retired Commerce Teacher) NZ, but half Australian as > my dad was born in Dubbo. (Hope that helps!) I'm trying to find the man > who married my grandmother in NZ in 1878 - I'm descended from her second > marriage. Their marriage certificate gives his place of birth as > Edinburgh, and at age 25 would have been born c1853. No birth certificate > has been found. Not long after their daughter was born he deserted wife > and child and went to Australia, never to be seen or heard of again. No > trace of his name has been found on shipping records so he probably > travelled under an assumed name. However we recently discovered the > following. > > He seems to have used any of the following names: Henry Mordaunt Cramond, > Mordaunt Cramond Gunn, or Mordaunt Cramond Booth Gunn. According to a > marriage certificate from NSW a person of the latter name married Miney > Booth in Newcastle in May 1881. Booth-Gunn's occupation was listed as > "surgeon" on this Marriage Cert. > > I should be most grateful for any information on this person as none of his > family in NZ can find any trace of him. Thanks a lot. > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Lorna, Sorry to add to your mystery, but this Leslie Mordant (sic) Gunn who died in Redfern was the child of Christopher and Miney. I searched for a death of Christopher Gunn, without luck. Given your man's record it would seem highly likely that he deserted yet another wife. There is not one death of a "Miney" recorded in NSW up to 1945. Remember, all of these searches cut off at 1945. Sorry I cannot help more. Maybe he went to the War! Maybe he went back to Scotland! RON ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Heal To: AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 11:28 PM Subject: Re: [H,H,HV] family search Mordant and Miney appear to have had one child in 1893, and no more. Leslie M B Gunn, birth 3763 of 1893.

Hello Ron Just thought you might like to know that we have just about closed in on our elusive Henry Mordaunt Cramond Booth Gunn (!!) and that the Leslie death you found in Redfern in 1945 was almost certainly his son from Henry's marriage to Miney Booth. A researcher has found variations of the family names in their certificates eg Miney = Minnie; The Leslie Christopher Gunn you found seems to have changed his name to CLEMENT when he married as everything else ties in: his wife and eventually widow luckily had the exact same name and their children match up! It's been a fascinating, and ongoing, piece of research which will help to clear up many family questions and mysteries. The most interesting is Henry's claim to be a surgeon and later an MD - my mother always said he tried to poison my grandmother; on the death cert. for Henry's second wife (Miney) death was due to 'accidental' overdose of hydrate of Chloral - a sleeping drug. Signature on the Death Cert. was her husband Henry, MD!!! So my mother was right. Thank you very much for your early help in this puzzle. It was instrumental in getting us further along the track. Good luck with your own research. Sincerely Lorna Clauson > From: "RON HARPER" <reprahnor@optushome.com.au> > Reply-To: AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:31:56 +1000 > To: AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [H,H,HV] family search > Resent-From: AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 03:30:21 -0600 > > Lorna, Sorry to add to your mystery, but this Leslie Mordant (sic) Gunn who > died in Redfern was the child of Christopher and Miney. I searched for a > death of Christopher Gunn, without luck. > > Given your man's record it would seem highly likely that he deserted yet > another wife. > > There is not one death of a "Miney" recorded in NSW up to 1945. > > Remember, all of these searches cut off at 1945. > > Sorry I cannot help more. Maybe he went to the War! Maybe he went back to > Scotland! > > RON > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Robert Heal > To: AUS-NSW-HILLS-HAWKESBURY-HUNTER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 11:28 PM > Subject: Re: [H,H,HV] family search > > > Mordant and Miney appear to have had one child in 1893, and no more. > > Leslie M B Gunn, birth 3763 of 1893. > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >